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    "The Dissolution of Humankind" - Too soon?!?

    Rockcrusher:

    "Once we prove any conspiracy theory as fact and not the ramblings of lonely men with nothing better to do but see evil in everything and beauty and compassion in nothing we can start a new thread about the dissolution of human kind, but until that happens we can leave them here."

    Since by now it is entirely obvious that the conspiracy of many lonely old men to see no beauty in anything, and to batter on about 'facts' that can be twisted to prove almost any lunatic fringe theory is now an indisputable truth, I can only conclude we are doomed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    I can only conclude we are doomed!



    So were the Dinosaurs.

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    Blinders on, ready for destruction.

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    Good thing we have youtube so we can make a documentary about it.
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    Beer goggles on, ready for warefare....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    Beer goggles on, ready for warefare....
    What's warefare? software fare or hardware fare?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyonadyke View Post
    What's warefare? software fare or hardware fare?
    it is the part of the comp that gets worn out by watching to much porn
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    the big aussie rep bomb is comin your way

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    I am pretty sure that somewhere on Youtube you will find indisputable factual evidence that Exxon pioneered time travel some time in the 80s, in collusion with John Delorean, and managed to send a nuke back in time to cause the great bacterial extinction to form the currently over-exploited oil deposits... Now there's a documentary!
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    I have a theory that the earliest cave paintings have illuminati codes hidden in them which helped the NWO rise to power. It's not like we've changed through the ages or anyting. Post-modernism has just given the lazy and unartful the tools to participate from their barcaloungers. Just look it up.
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    Rocko, im with you we are doomed, shut the gate, the fat lady is dead, we are doomed..
    Dont ever let the truth get in the way of a funny story....

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    True proof of the dissolution of all that makes us human is the comments on youtube, followed closely by the comments on any Huff post women's lifestyle article. We are getting stupider by the second and as I have read lately "The problem with humanity is that the intelligent people are full of doubt and the stupid ones are full of confidence."

    Sums it up nicely.

    Conspiracy theories remind me of anti-vaccination theories: not a shred of scientific proof besides a few leaflets, loud voices and websites. As I said once you have a solid factual basis for a conspiracy you can then not call it a conspiracy because it becomes a fact and the idea that any government is so good at keeping a secret that we could be kept in the dark about chem-trails or WTC or Newtown or anything is ludicrous because the government is such a loose collection of aggregate each with its own ambition to sell out the person above so that they can move up that ladder that nothing stays secret. Iran-Contra, the blue dress, watergate, Clinton's and the junk bonds. Things at the POTUS level, that should most certainly be the most secret things ever and they all came out.

    The concept of a watertight conspiracy is based on the concept that people can keep their mouths shut over years. Hell even the guy that perpetrated the Bigfoot myth ratted himself out when he died.

    I respect that you believe that people can keep a secret, and sure maybe one person can keep a secret until their grave but the numbers of people that would need to keep a secret just to do something as small as Newtown would be impossible. That is way to much faith in humanity and thus if hundreds of people that would need to be in on WTC could keep quiet about it for 10 years did so I would say that humanity has become a much sadder version of itself when people like Deep Throat had the balls to rat out the damn POTUS. That is what I am getting at.

    I don't want to live on a planet where people wouldn't talk about something that they covered up even if the reason would just be monetary gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    I have a theory that the earliest cave paintings have illuminati codes hidden in them which helped the NWO rise to power. It's not like we've changed through the ages or anyting. Post-modernism has just given the lazy and unartful the tools to participate from their barcaloungers. Just look it up.
    I have a theory that the designer and builder of St Peters Dome and the Duomo in Florence Filippo Brunelleschi is in fact a time traveler that got stuck in that era for whatever reason and decided to make a go of it. His designs for his machines to build those things are so above the level of anything else from that era and his understanding of materials and construction just have to show he is from the future. Of course I can't prove it. Hell I think the same thing about this guy from Nazareth too.
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    I swear I saw an image of Jesus in my poop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt farmer View Post
    I swear I saw an image of Jesus in my poop.
    pictures or it didn't happen...in before MCS.

    Actually pictures and i'll delete the post...****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    I have a theory that the designer and builder of St Peters Dome and the Duomo in Florence Filippo Brunelleschi is in fact a time traveler that got stuck in that era for whatever reason and decided to make a go of it. His designs for his machines to build those things are so above the level of anything else from that era and his understanding of materials and construction just have to show he is from the future. Of course I can't prove it. Hell I think the same thing about this guy from Nazareth too.
    I'll youtube it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    True proof of the dissolution of all that makes us human is the comments on youtube, followed closely by the comments on any Huff post women's lifestyle article. We are getting stupider by the second and as I have read lately "The problem with humanity is that the intelligent people are full of doubt and the stupid ones are full of confidence."

    Sums it up nicely.

    Conspiracy theories remind me of anti-vaccination theories: not a shred of scientific proof besides a few leaflets, loud voices and websites. As I said once you have a solid factual basis for a conspiracy you can then not call it a conspiracy because it becomes a fact and the idea that any government is so good at keeping a secret that we could be kept in the dark about chem-trails or WTC or Newtown or anything is ludicrous because the government is such a loose collection of aggregate each with its own ambition to sell out the person above so that they can move up that ladder that nothing stays secret. Iran-Contra, the blue dress, watergate, Clinton's and the junk bonds. Things at the POTUS level, that should most certainly be the most secret things ever and they all came out.

    The concept of a watertight conspiracy is based on the concept that people can keep their mouths shut over years. Hell even the guy that perpetrated the Bigfoot myth ratted himself out when he died.

    I respect that you believe that people can keep a secret, and sure maybe one person can keep a secret until their grave but the numbers of people that would need to keep a secret just to do something as small as Newtown would be impossible. That is way to much faith in humanity and thus if hundreds of people that would need to be in on WTC could keep quiet about it for 10 years did so I would say that humanity has become a much sadder version of itself when people like Deep Throat had the balls to rat out the damn POTUS. That is what I am getting at.

    I don't want to live on a planet where people wouldn't talk about something that they covered up even if the reason would just be monetary gain.

    First question, from what are you quoting in the original post?

    2nd question, have you seen the movie Idiocracy? Its a general visual of the impending doom that awaits our future selves, but it's ok cause it's funny.

    Lastly, on the above, while I can't disagree, that's a little cold. Socrates killed himself, but really who does that? Sure he was smart, but he probably had some other issues too.

    I shall end with, supposedly Mark Twain.... Never debate with a stupid person, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Which means, in this context, let it go Henry Rollins. We were doomed before we got here...

    We didn't start the fire, it was always buurrninngggg since the world's been turning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    We didn't start the fire, it was always buurrninngggg since the world's been turning.
    Whoah, you just quoted the second worst pop song in all of human history to make your point.
    You're so cute internet tough guy. Noogie...Noogie...Noogie.

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    I'm sorry I got carried away, I admit it. I just flipped past vh1 and there it was, 6th grade all over again. sorrry

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbhammercycle View Post
    First question, from what are you quoting in the original post?

    2nd question, have you seen the movie Idiocracy? Its a general visual of the impending doom that awaits our future selves, but it's ok cause it's funny.

    Lastly, on the above, while I can't disagree, that's a little cold. Socrates killed himself, but really who does that? Sure he was smart, but he probably had some other issues too.

    I shall end with, supposedly Mark Twain.... Never debate with a stupid person, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Which means, in this context, let it go Henry Rollins. We were doomed before we got here...

    We didn't start the fire, it was always buurrninngggg since the world's been turning.
    I'm quoting my post from the original reference. Saw Idiocracy. Sadly sometimes it seems be coming true, although without the frozen in time thing.

    As a parent and a science educated individual I get blasted with these post Jenny McCarthy types that believe the vaccination/autism thing, even with peer reviewed and repeated tests showing it isn't actually linked at all in any cases. It is the desperate belief that you can explain something away and it will make you feel better that lead our ancient forefathers to say that thunder was Thor wielding his hammer in the heavens and posideon stirring the tempest.

    The whole conspiracy thing feels and looks like the same thing, yearn to explain how one individual or a small group of individuals can be so evil and wrapping our misgiving about religion, politics and personal biases into it and thus you get these crazy sounding schemes where our government sponsors domestic terrorism as a way of ensure you don't have access to guns. It is just as ludicrous as believing that Thor is making thunder. I could go out tomorrow and buy a gun legally here in Tucson, a city that had its locally elected governmental representative shot in the head by a mentally unstable young man but I couldn't go out and drive a motorcycle legally tomorrow yet these conspiracies always seem to show how the govt has created these to remove a couple of key freedoms, mainly guns and freedom.

    I get jaded a lot. I spent the first 24 years of life in canada so that explains a lot right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    True proof of the dissolution of all that makes us human is the comments on youtube, followed closely by the comments on any Huff post women's lifestyle article. We are getting stupider by the second and as I have read lately "The problem with humanity is that the intelligent people are full of doubt and the stupid ones are full of confidence."

    Sums it up nicely.

    Conspiracy theories remind me of anti-vaccination theories: not a shred of scientific proof besides a few leaflets, loud voices and websites. As I said once you have a solid factual basis for a conspiracy you can then not call it a conspiracy because it becomes a fact and the idea that any government is so good at keeping a secret that we could be kept in the dark about chem-trails or WTC or Newtown or anything is ludicrous because the government is such a loose collection of aggregate each with its own ambition to sell out the person above so that they can move up that ladder that nothing stays secret. Iran-Contra, the blue dress, watergate, Clinton's and the junk bonds. Things at the POTUS level, that should most certainly be the most secret things ever and they all came out.

    The concept of a watertight conspiracy is based on the concept that people can keep their mouths shut over years. Hell even the guy that perpetrated the Bigfoot myth ratted himself out when he died.

    I respect that you believe that people can keep a secret, and sure maybe one person can keep a secret until their grave but the numbers of people that would need to keep a secret just to do something as small as Newtown would be impossible. That is way to much faith in humanity and thus if hundreds of people that would need to be in on WTC could keep quiet about it for 10 years did so I would say that humanity has become a much sadder version of itself when people like Deep Throat had the balls to rat out the damn POTUS. That is what I am getting at.

    I don't want to live on a planet where people wouldn't talk about something that they covered up even if the reason would just be monetary gain.

    You've never worked for the defense industry and had some sort of security clearance, with all the contracts you sign when you leave the company, in the name of national security. And that was, oh, 25-30 years ago, doubt it's gotten any easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockcrusher View Post
    "The problem with humanity is that the intelligent people are full of doubt and the stupid ones are full of confidence."
    I prefer to think that this doubt of which you speak is more along the lines of curiosity and the product of a searching and inquiring mind that wants to get to the nub of the truth about something, Glass Full/Empty kind of thing. The confidence of the stupid is just stupid and should not be rewarded in the kind of ways that reality TV/pap media does right now. That is a BIG part of the 'dissolution of humankind' right now in my book. We need ways to better reward/encourage positive and truly creative thinking and doing, things which actually IMPROVE our world.
    You are right IMHO about the validity of these 'conspiracy' theories. It is just too much to think that all involved can keep schtumm for so long and with such aplomb. We are just not that good at keeping a secret!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeabuser View Post
    Stereotype's reveal the internal self.
    I am afraid I cannot see what this means. Can you elaborate please?
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    IMO there's a disconnect from reality and consequences that's growing stronger. Like all the kids on a mediocre team getting awards. For what? What happened to the best or the winners getting awards and the rest have to deal with not. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
    Not to mention people and their lives being controlled by the ultra rich's greed more and more, and now on a global level.
    People are the same as they were 30 years ago but now, IMO, thanx to cable news filling a 24 hour cycle on multiple channels, people live in fear. Even the weather channel gets in on the mongering. We could and should all take a stand against all news media that's opinionated, speculative, and fills an agenda, which IMO is all channels on tv on some level.
    There's many scenarios that I could point to that prove these points, but I think "Global Climate Change" is one of the best, most obvious, and unbelievable that so many people buy into, as well as completely man made. There's no denying mankind hasn't screwed up the planet in many ways, and may even have an impact on climate. Or that big oil and fossil fuel money and infrastructure is holding us hostage. The fact of the matter is that glacial periods last around 100,000 years, and inter-glacial periods, like the one we're enjoying now, last around 11,000. Which btw our last ice age was around 11,500 years ago so ? It has been PROVEN this way throughout our planets history. Or the fact that the planet has been warmer, and warmer for much longer, with higher c02 levels than now, before fossil fuels were even used, like the medieval warm period as a proven example.
    This doesn't seem to matter. I'm starting to guess that as long as your intentions are good or seem that way, it really doesn't matter. Like little Johnny getting an award for baseball even thou he sucks. We wouldn't want him to feel bad or have to deal with reality or consequences.

    There's a saying "if you had a brain you'd be dangerous", which I think sums up our existence pretty well. We as a race lay claim to so much, and pat ourselves on the back and celebrate our accomplishments at every opportunity, yet there's still oppression world wide, and we're ruining the only planet we have at an accelerated rate. Yahoo for us.

    I could go on about how people don't have the make-up, or genetic history to live in such large societies, with so many ways to fill all your needs by yourself, and how that is effecting and what it's evolving into, but this post is long enough.
    Round and round we go

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