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    I'm here watching this show on cable about Bigfoot, and I started to wonder if any one here think they ever saw Bigfoot?

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    I saw him once when I was little!



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    Never "saw" one. I was always saving some stories for the 'Paranormal Thread', but too lazy to write them all down.

    I did experience some rock throwing down in the N. Fork American River. Something on the opposite bank, too inaccessible for some human fer sure. Bizarre sounds and of course it happened during the night. I threw rocks back just to keep "it" thinking it was NOT okay to cross over to my side.

    The other time was in a sub canyon; I was cutting up on a deer trail. The Madrone tree right next to me started swaying back and forth -from its base! And considering it was a 1 1/2 foot plus in diameter, it made no sense at all. The sun had already gone down, and I had no flashlight. Our hunting dog took off, with his tail between legs. (This is a dog who chases bears up trees when they meander into our camp.) I willed myself to turn away, being without a dog, and run the longest mile back home. I found our German Shorthair lodged under the dinner table, shaking. His reaction alone spooked the hell out of me. To this day, none reasons itself. And I pride myself being a country man, and all that.

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    That crazy! And scary. While I enjoy nature and came across your basic animals-deers, squirrels, etc. but experience like that would be enough for me to become a roadie.

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    This site has an off topic forum called "Off Camber off topic" in short called the OC that these threads go in. Any thread not having a mountain bike theme. I know the General Discussion forum should be for this. But about a year ago it became a hassle for the mods sifting through and sending threads to the recycling bin. So they created the "Off Camber off topic" forum. Just a FYI for future posting.

    Do I believe in Big Foot? I did for sure up through my twenties and I had some doubt through my thirties. My forties brought more doubt. I'm 51 now and I am absolutely positive it's a bunch of crap. No bones have ever been found or fossils or real footage or a dead one. Too much time has gone by with too few uninhabited places to hide. With too much population growth with humans for no proof positive evidence ever coming to light. The dudes on that Big Foot show have a serious mental sickness to dedicate their life to hunting down a myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    This site has an off topic forum called "Off Camber off topic" in short called the OC that these threads go in. Any thread not having a mountain bike theme. I know the General Discussion forum should be for this. But about a year ago it became a hassle for the mods sifting through and sending threads to the recycling bin. So they created the "Off Camber off topic" forum. Just a FYI for future posting.

    Do I believe in Big Foot? I did for sure up through my twenties and I had some doubt through my thirties. My forties brought more doubt. I'm 51 now and I am absolutely positive it's a bunch of crap. No bones have ever been found or fossils or real footage or a dead one. Too much time has gone by with too many uninhabited places to hide. With too much population growth with humans for no proof positive evidence ever coming to light. The dudes on that Big Foot show have a serious mental sickness to dedicate their like to hunting down a myth.
    I bet it pays well.

    I've spent a LOT of time (30+ years) in the forests of British Columbia, Vancouver Island to be specific. During that time I've seen one live cougar and NO cougar bones, even though V.I. has one of the highest densities of cougars in the world. It also has a large black bear population and although I've had many encounters with them (they are hard to avoid at times), I've never seen a carcass or bones.

    I do have a couple of sasquatch stories but since I've never seen one, I won't say I'm sure they exist.
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    My brother said he saw something one morning when he was deer hunting... it was pre-dawn, he was sitting at the base of the tree and kind of dozing off. He said he woke up with what he thought was something standing about 20 feet away, just swaying back and forth. When he racked his shotgun slide (was chambered but wanted to let the person/thing know he was there), it took off. He knew it was on two legs based on the sound of the leaves, and said it was so fast, it just "disappeared".

    He won't say it was bigfoot, but it scared the crap out of him for the rest of the season... this was in southern Ohio, BTW. I don't have any stories other than that, but I do think there is some pretty convincing evidence. Not enough to say it's for real out there, but very plausible.

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    "No bones have ever been found or fossils or real footage or a dead one."

    um, maybe the bigfoot families are very, very good at hiding the graves of their dead.

    i mean, tecumseh's final resting place has never been found...

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    Yes i have actually had a sexual experience with a female bigfoot.
    It was a dark and windy day, the forest was angry that day my friends.
    I was alone pumping my tyre up on a remote trail.
    Through the trees i was shocked to see a very large 8ft fury creature with large breasts, looking at me whilst rubbing her self very sensually, for a second i had to remind myself i wasnt in Bulgaria..
    I think it could have been the sound of my pump that attracted her to me.
    Anyway i have to admit that i was immediately turned on by this sensual chewbacca looking woman, so much so that she noticed my erection poking through my pants.
    She called me over and by this point i was very excited.
    The first thing i noticed was her musky unwashed smell which sent me over the edge, it was very erotic.
    As we embraced i gently moved the long fur around her mouth and gently kissed her, she gathered me in her arms and picked me up off the ground and she went on to lick my face and in my ears, it was very erotic.
    In a very sensual moment she lay back on the ground and parted her loverly hairy legs and i dove right in, she didnt have appeared to ever have washed before, but this only drove up my arousal levels to an all time high.
    As we made love on that i was bitten by hundreds of fleas which aroused me to a new level sensuality and tipped me over the edge of sexual desire and passion.
    Anyway without trying to get to sexual on this forum, we were together for 4 long nights and days, without doubt the most erotic four days of my life...
    It was a great experience and i have never showered since, i would recommend it to anybody.
    So yes i have seen a bigfoot......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Yes i have actually had a sexual experience with a female bigfoot.

    (yuck)...

    So yes i have seen a bigfoot......
    cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Yes i have actually had a sexual experience with a female bigfoot.
    It was a dark and windy day, the forest was angry that day my friends.
    I was alone pumping my tyre up on a remote trail.
    Through the trees i was shocked to see a very large 8ft fury creature with large breasts, looking at me whilst rubbing her self very sensually, for a second i had to remind myself i wasnt in Bulgaria..
    I think it could have been the sound of my pump that attracted her to me.
    Anyway i have to admit that i was immediately turned on by this sensual chewbacca looking woman, so much so that she noticed my erection poking through my pants.
    She called me over and by this point i was very excited.
    The first thing i noticed was her musky unwashed smell which sent me over the edge, it was very erotic.
    As we embraced i gently moved the long fur around her mouth and gently kissed her, she gathered me in her arms and picked me up off the ground and she went on to lick my face and in my ears, it was very erotic.
    In a very sensual moment she lay back on the ground and parted her loverly hairy legs and i dove right in, she didnt have appeared to ever have washed before, but this only drove up my arousal levels to an all time high.
    As we made love on that i was bitten by hundreds of fleas which aroused me to a new level sensuality and tipped me over the edge of sexual desire and passion.
    Anyway without trying to get to sexual on this forum, we were together for 4 long nights and days, without doubt the most erotic four days of my life...
    It was a great experience and i have never showered since, i would recommend it to anybody.
    So yes i have seen a bigfoot......
    cheers
    That's funny Tone, you just reminded me of something that happened to me when I was living back in the Old Country that had slipped my mind for many years, not really about a "Bigfoot" but similar... I was out riding my mountain bike along the shores of Loch Ness on a biking trip in Scotland, and had a series of mechanicals that put me late getting back to my bed and breakfast. Like you, I was pumping up the trail, head down, when I suddenly heard an unearthly, deep groaning sound from up ahead. Startled, I tried to slow quickly, and in the gloom just in front, a huge dark shape appeared across the trail, and my nostrils were assaulted by an overwhelming, slimy, antediluvian stench such as could only be imagined in nightmares. Of course, like you, I was immediately aroused, and as I slid closer, I could make out at least a dozen large breasts along the underside of this creature, whatever it was. She was huge, scaly, drooling from her maw, and from the look of her massive dinner-plate sized moon-eyes gazing down at me, extremely aroused too.
    I will not bore you all with the details of what followed, but needless to say, I did not make it back to my B & B for at least a couple of days, and when I did, I was a little drained! I have kept pretty quiet about this til now, not because I thought that I would be disbelieved, but because she probably has a husband somewhere, and I really do not want to piss him off!
    Sorry to derail the thread from Ol' Bigfoot, but I thought this needed to be out in the open finally... hubby would have to swim an awful long way to catch up to me here now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    That's funny Tone, you just reminded me of something that happened to me when I was living back in the Old Country that had slipped my mind for many years, not really about a "Bigfoot" but similar... I was out riding my mountain bike along the shores of Loch Ness on a biking trip in Scotland, and had a series of mechanicals that put me late getting back to my bed and breakfast. Like you, I was pumping up the trail, head down, when I suddenly heard an unearthly, deep groaning sound from up ahead. Startled, I tried to slow quickly, and in the gloom just in front, a huge dark shape appeared across the trail, and my nostrils were assaulted by an overwhelming, slimy, antediluvian stench such as could only be imagined in nightmares. Of course, like you, I was immediately aroused, and as I slid closer, I could make out at least a dozen large breasts along the underside of this creature, whatever it was. She was huge, scaly, drooling from her maw, and from the look of her massive dinner-plate sized moon-eyes gazing down at me, extremely aroused too.
    I will not bore you all with the details of what followed, but needless to say, I did not make it back to my B & B for at least a couple of days, and when I did, I was a little drained! I have kept pretty quiet about this til now, not because I thought that I would be disbelieved, but because she probably has a husband somewhere, and I really do not want to piss him off!
    Sorry to derail the thread from Ol' Bigfoot, but I thought this needed to be out in the open finally... hubby would have to swim an awful long way to catch up to me here now...
    Hahahahahaha see it seems a few more people have had these experiences, your story has just got me quite aroused....
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    Saw one in Walmart last year.

    Seriously though, being on a mountain bike will give you an advantage/disadvantage to sneak up on wildlife. Most every mammal fears the sound of footsteps. Bike tires do not make this sound.

    I have come very close(within a couple of feet) of bears, deer, moose, small game, etc just because I was not walking.

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    I got ya, my intend was to be bike related. I should have clarified better.

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    This is something that I have thought a lot about. 40 years in the woods and I have seen every animal (except Mtn Lion), that this part of the world has to offer, alive and in their natural setting. But I have never come across any feline or ursus bones though I know for sure they exist. So that test fails. I know many of the people who claim to have seen them may be deluded, insane, or corrupt....but can that be true for every single one? I doubt it. So color me open minded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskare View Post
    But I have never come across any feline or ursus bones though I know for sure they exist.
    Cats generally go hide somewhere when they die. That's why it's rare to find their bones, but there are plenty of videos and pics of cats coming up to peoples decks, wilderness cams that take pictures when there's movement, radio collars, and all sorts of other stuff. I would agree that with the amount of human dominance and spread, it's highly unlikely there's any "big foot". We've got infra-red cameras for god's sake these days. If someone really saw something that was promising, they could do a search and have it within a few hours most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    I would agree that with the amount of human dominance and spread, it's highly unlikely there's any "big foot". We've got infra-red cameras for god's sake these days. If someone really saw something that was promising, they could do a search and have it within a few hours most likely.
    I can't agree with this, and I am surprised you feel this way given you hail from Camino, Ca. - not exactly a 'cosmopolis'. At any rate, the Northwest is loaded with huge tracks of land that have seen very little human presence. And to the extent that humans have been in these places history is replete with stories from seemingly 'normal' people who have had an experience that does not fit into the collective paradigm. I ain't sayin BF is real, but I remain open minded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskare View Post
    I can't agree with this, and I am surprised you feel this way given you hail from Camino, Ca. - not exactly a 'cosmopolis'. At any rate, the Northwest is loaded with huge tracks of land that have seen very little human presence. And to the extent that humans have been in these places history is replete with stories from seemingly 'normal' people who have had an experience that does not fit into the collective paradigm. I ain't sayin BF is real, but I remain open minded.
    I grew up in Camino. About 3 years ago, I went back and visited. The amount of development since I was there about 10 years ago was astonishing (haven't lived there for about 15-17 years). Literally houses everywhere, and while they are not the urban-side-by-side, almost no 2-3 acre plot of land is untouched without a house. From Sky Park, to Pleasant Valley, to Camino, to Placerville, the population density is astonishing for such a "rural" area IMO. Although I liked it for some reasons (and disliked the lack of mtb), I wouldn't want to live there again. Just too dense now and out of control IMO.

    Even when I lived there though, we saw turkeys and deer on a daily basis. Mountain lions, raccoons were semi-often spotted, as well as the occasional bear. Our area was up against some forest land, and due to how rural it was in Rancho Del Sol, it was kind of a "nature preserve" within the greater area. I'm not sure what growing up in a rural area has to do with it, but it wasn't "that" rural, even though I frequently went into the woods and back-areas by myself (up 50, Crystal Basin, 88, Strawberry Canyon, Mormon Emigrant).

    Look at the new species that are being found, generally very small stuff, stuff that looks similar to other animals, so they weren't noticed, insects, marine life at the bottom of the ocean, etc. I'll say it again, there are cameras people place in the wilderness that take pictures when they sense movement, infra-red cams, airborne wildlife surveys, and people everywhere with cameras and video recorders (cell-phones). It's pretty unlikely now that these things exist. Maybe not 100%, but it's getting to 99.99 or so...

    And there are plenty of reports and stories of paranormal and supernatural things. Why? People are presented with a situation that either has incomplete information (it was dark, I was far away, etc) or a situation that doesn't make emotional-sense to them (why would that happen? There's got to be a better answer!) and their mind fills in the blanks. They aren't intending to "make stuff up", nor do they actively think that they are, but it's well documented in human nature to invent false stories and report things that weren't there or weren't true. A good example would be UFOs. I've seen 2, and one other one as a pilot while flying. Does that mean "aliens"? No, it just means UFOs. If I wasn't so critical of myself, I could easily fall into the trap of thinking it has to be aliens or something equally fantastic and impossible. There could also be a more complex answer that is amazing and hard to believe, but there's nothing to prove that. I would need a lot more information and filling of the "gaps" by information and not fiction.

    "Wanting to believe" is a very powerful thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    I grew up in Camino. About 3 years ago, I went back and visited. The amount of development since I was there about 5 years ago was astonishing. Literally houses everywhere, and while they are not the urban-side-by-side, almost no 2-3 acre plot of land is untouched without a house. From Sky Park, to Pleasant Valley, to Camino, to Placerville, the population density is astonishing for such a "rural" area IMO. Although I liked it for some reasons (and disliked the lack of mtb), I wouldn't want to live there again. Just too dense now and out of control IMO.

    Even when I lived there though, we saw turkeys and deer on a daily basis. Mountain lions, raccoons were semi-often spotted, as well as the occasional bear. Our area was up against some forest land, and due to how rural it was in Rancho Del Sol, it was kind of a "nature preserve" within the greater area. I'm not sure what growing up in a rural area has to do with it, but it wasn't "that" rural, even though I frequently went into the woods and back-areas by myself (up 50, Crystal Basin, 88, Strawberry Canyon, Mormon Emigrant).

    Look at the new species that are being found, generally very small stuff, stuff that looks similar to other animals, so they weren't noticed, insects, marine life at the bottom of the ocean, etc. I'll say it again, there are cameras people place in the wilderness that take pictures when they sense movement, infra-red cams, airborne wildlife surveys, and people everywhere with cameras and video recorders (cell-phones). It's pretty unlikely now that these things exist. Maybe not 100%, but it's getting to 99.99 or so...

    And there are plenty of reports and stories of paranormal and supernatural things. Why? People are presented with a situation that either has incomplete information (it was dark, I was far away, etc) or a situation that doesn't make emotional-sense to them (why would that happen? There's got to be a better answer!) and their mind fills in the blanks. They aren't intending to "make stuff up", nor do they actively think that they are, but it's well documented in human nature to invent false stories and report things that weren't there or weren't true.
    Yep, I get both components of your argument. The objective info gathering really is accelerating, so that will soon likely either produce something, or not, and not, more and more, means 'no, it ain't there'. And the other part, involving human interpretation, is indisputable. On point, just the other day I witnessed and simultaneously filmed (on my cell phone) an event. The narrative I had in my brain was crystal clear to me, until a few days later when I watched the video. And I was sober. Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavyRay View Post
    Around here, I'd say you had an encounter with a crackhead, only fleas don't live on crackheads.
    Well, around here we might say you purchased a sixer of SN Bigfoots.

    I once went to the SN tap room and ordered a pitcher of BF. I intended to sit at the bar a while and then join some friends for dinner at a table....so the other half of the pitcher would been shared by 3 others. The bar keep just nodded his head 'NO'. I explained, he still said "no". He might know something I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiskare View Post
    The narrative I had in my brain was crystal clear to me, until a few days later when I watched the video. And I was sober. Amazing.
    Yep. As an accident investigator, it's amazing how eyewitnesses are the best and worst type of evidence at the same time. The things they've reported have been completely impossible and against many other pieces of evidence, yet they've been able to fill in the blanks and provide crucial evidence and missing parts in some situations. There are some advanced interviewing techniques that help to overcome some of the "interference", but in the end, we're all human.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    This site has an off topic forum called "Off Camber off topic" in short called the OC that these threads go in. Any thread not having a mountain bike theme. I know the General Discussion forum should be for this. But about a year ago it became a hassle for the mods sifting through and sending threads to the recycling bin. So they created the "Off Camber off topic" forum. Just a FYI for future posting.

    Do I believe in Big Foot? I did for sure up through my twenties and I had some doubt through my thirties. My forties brought more doubt. I'm 51 now and I am absolutely positive it's a bunch of crap. No bones have ever been found or fossils or real footage or a dead one. Too much time has gone by with too few uninhabited places to hide. With too much population growth with humans for no proof positive evidence ever coming to light. The dudes on that Big Foot show have a serious mental sickness to dedicate their life to hunting down a myth.
    Exactly!!, There is more trace of ancient humans ( cro-magnon man "cave men" ) than a 7-8ft bush beast going COMPLETELY unnoticed for over 100's of years.
    I am all for evolution, but you can't even say big foot is a 'theory', no evidence has ever been found, no DNA trace, just doesn't fit in the line up..

    And I know the show you are talking about ( if it is the same one ) That woman who looks like a sasquatch herself is the only one with any brains, the other two morons are bellowing like wookies in a bush waiting for a response back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnt2012 View Post
    ...the other two morons are bellowing like wookies in a bush waiting for a response back...
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    i may have posted this in the paranormal thread, but my coworker was working in the catskills (environmental company, they have to go out on "site" a lot). He and a partner were in the woods, then ended up in a clearing of powerlines. When they looked in the not so far distance, there was a "thing" that was large and dark and furry, but it was walking on two legs. almost running. He said there was no way a bear could move like that, so he had no idea what it could have been. Basically picture dark and furry like a bear, but standing and running like a human. This guy isnt crazy. normal dude.
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    Also, the idea of an ape-like creature isnt too far fetched. there are plenty of apes that already exist (many on this site). So i dont see how it's so unbelievable. At the same time, the idea that this ONE ape is so hard to find and elusive, makes it less believable. who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockerc View Post
    That's funny Tone, you just reminded me of something that happened to me when I was living back in the Old Country that had slipped my mind for many years, not really about a "Bigfoot" but similar... I was out riding my mountain bike along the shores of Loch Ness on a biking trip in Scotland, and had a series of mechanicals that put me late getting back to my bed and breakfast. Like you, I was pumping up the trail, head down, when I suddenly heard an unearthly, deep groaning sound from up ahead. Startled, I tried to slow quickly, and in the gloom just in front, a huge dark shape appeared across the trail, and my nostrils were assaulted by an overwhelming, slimy, antediluvian stench such as could only be imagined in nightmares. Of course, like you, I was immediately aroused, and as I slid closer, I could make out at least a dozen large breasts along the underside of this creature, whatever it was. She was huge, scaly, drooling from her maw, and from the look of her massive dinner-plate sized moon-eyes gazing down at me, extremely aroused too.
    I will not bore you all with the details of what followed, but needless to say, I did not make it back to my B & B for at least a couple of days, and when I did, I was a little drained! I have kept pretty quiet about this til now, not because I thought that I would be disbelieved, but because she probably has a husband somewhere, and I really do not want to piss him off!
    Sorry to derail the thread from Ol' Bigfoot, but I thought this needed to be out in the open finally... hubby would have to swim an awful long way to catch up to me here now...
    Upon reflection I may have been completely mistaken about this, it was raining heavily after all...

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    There is a large bipedal creature that lives in the woods behind my house. I see it a few times a week...it walks upright like a human being but it is covered in thick hair and it stands about 8 feet tall. But I measured it's footprint - only about a size 6 or 7, so not Bigfoot. So disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    Basically picture dark and furry like a bear, but standing and running like a human. This guy isnt crazy. normal dude.
    Nicole, it isn't "crazy" people that claim to have seen a missile hit an aircraft, or a building blow up wrong, or any other "crazy claims". It's a part of human nature that we fill in the blanks and change the story to something that "makes sense" to only us. It's not crazy, it's just human nature. It doesn't make it true. Think of if he was killed or mutilated. They always go and look for the bear/couger/whatever that did it to confirm. They will usually kill whatever it was, and look in the stomach. So this "thing" really doesn't like people, but not enough to ever kill them? Even moose and other animals that have no taste for humans and aren't meat-eaters kill people. It just makes it all very hard to believe.
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    I don't think we have Sasquatch here in the sunny Southeastern US. We have had many sightings of the Woolly Booger. Not lately, though. Maybe the local news media is not listening to the good ole boys who see a Woolly Booger in the woods.
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    He's alive and well, rides a singlespeed and post's here regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    i may have posted this in the paranormal thread, but my coworker was working in the catskills (environmental company, they have to go out on "site" a lot). He and a partner were in the woods, then ended up in a clearing of powerlines. When they looked in the not so far distance, there was a "thing" that was large and dark and furry, but it was walking on two legs. almost running. He said there was no way a bear could move like that, so he had no idea what it could have been. Basically picture dark and furry like a bear, but standing and running like a human. This guy isnt crazy. normal dude.
    Nicole, I think they are called "fuzzies' or sometimes "furries". I believe Tone's has a lifetime membership now. Mine was relinquished after I had a Lewinsky moment, but that's for another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norton55 View Post
    He's alive and well, rides a singlespeed and post's here regularly.
    HINT: And he goes by his original name the native Americans gave him. Somewhere along the line the white man renamed him Bigfoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    I grew up in Camino. About 3 years ago, I went back and visited. The amount of development since I was there about 10 years ago was astonishing (haven't lived there for about 15-17 years). Literally houses everywhere, and while they are not the urban-side-by-side, almost no 2-3 acre plot of land is untouched without a house. From Sky Park, to Pleasant Valley, to Camino, to Placerville, the population density is astonishing for such a "rural" area IMO. Although I liked it for some reasons (and disliked the lack of mtb), I wouldn't want to live there again. Just too dense now and out of control IMO.

    Even when I lived there though, we saw turkeys and deer on a daily basis. Mountain lions, raccoons were semi-often spotted, as well as the occasional bear. Our area was up against some forest land, and due to how rural it was in Rancho Del Sol, it was kind of a "nature preserve" within the greater area. I'm not sure what growing up in a rural area has to do with it, but it wasn't "that" rural, even though I frequently went into the woods and back-areas by myself (up 50, Crystal Basin, 88, Strawberry Canyon, Mormon Emigrant).

    Look at the new species that are being found, generally very small stuff, stuff that looks similar to other animals, so they weren't noticed, insects, marine life at the bottom of the ocean, etc. I'll say it again, there are cameras people place in the wilderness that take pictures when they sense movement, infra-red cams, airborne wildlife surveys, and people everywhere with cameras and video recorders (cell-phones). It's pretty unlikely now that these things exist. Maybe not 100%, but it's getting to 99.99 or so...

    And there are plenty of reports and stories of paranormal and supernatural things. Why? People are presented with a situation that either has incomplete information (it was dark, I was far away, etc) or a situation that doesn't make emotional-sense to them (why would that happen? There's got to be a better answer!) and their mind fills in the blanks. They aren't intending to "make stuff up", nor do they actively think that they are, but it's well documented in human nature to invent false stories and report things that weren't there or weren't true. A good example would be UFOs. I've seen 2, and one other one as a pilot while flying. Does that mean "aliens"? No, it just means UFOs. If I wasn't so critical of myself, I could easily fall into the trap of thinking it has to be aliens or something equally fantastic and impossible. There could also be a more complex answer that is amazing and hard to believe, but there's nothing to prove that. I would need a lot more information and filling of the "gaps" by information and not fiction.

    "Wanting to believe" is a very powerful thing.
    I agree. Many studies have been performed that show how easily someone can be manipulated into believing something occurred and they witnessed it when in fact they did not. Time also amplifies these beliefs. People became more adamant over time that they witnessed something fantastic when it was just their imagination filling in the blanks and their minds enforcing it.

    You should watch "Ancient Aliens". You would get a good laugh out of it. Anything they cannot explain = aliens.

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    Yah right, bigfoot. Last time I saw one he was pulling Santa's sled.

    My local trails (West Branch State Park, OH) are known as a bigfoot stronghold. But they also say there's a ghost witch out there, so I'm not too worried about bigfoot.

    Been out there solo at all hours of the day and night and never saw, heard, or smelt anything bigfoot-y.

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    Yep, seems improbable to me, too. To think that not a singe specimen has ever been collected -- either hit by a car, died, sick and too slow to get away, a young one not careful enough, etc. Just seems improbable that they could exist and yet there has never been a body found.

    I do think it is interesting that it seems to be a legend that is found across most of the world, however, in some form or another (large creature that lives in the wilderness).
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