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    Nothing... except the kids in this vid are 10 to 13 years old.

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    I really enjoy watching these raw footage videos you guys have posted. Sure they don't have any fancy editing, but they show what the rider experienced on the ride, and that's what's important. I love videos that document a ride and let you hear the bike and rider sounds. The ones where the camera is placed on the ground and you can hear the bike flying by are really cool!

    BTW, I like hearing all the cussing and other dialogue from the rider in the helmet cam vids.

    I don't have any mtb videos that haven't already been posted here on MTBR, so I'll just have to direct you guys to my latest thread in Passion: Exploring the Quarry Trail and other nearby trails in Auburn, CA (pics & video). There is a video at the bottom of the page in my OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    I really enjoy watching these raw footage videos you guys have posted. Sure they don't have any fancy editing, but they show what the rider experienced on the ride, and that's what's important. I love videos that document a ride and let you hear the bike and rider sounds. The ones where the camera is placed on the ground and you can hear the bike flying by are really cool!

    BTW, I like hearing all the cussing and other dialogue from the rider in the helmet cam vids.

    I don't have any mtb videos that haven't already been posted here on MTBR, so I'll just have to direct you guys to my latest thread in Passion: Exploring the Quarry Trail and other nearby trails in Auburn, CA (pics & video). There is a video at the bottom of the page in my OP.
    Beautiful country out there. Those climbs must be steeeep because you are laboring hard.

    I've posted this one somewhere else on MTBR but here it is again. Honorable mention to OO7, who I am chasing!

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    Good videos everyone! Hutch - I was almost expecting the first one to turn into a screamer.

    Daniel: I enjoyed yours, too. Brings back memories of my trip to Portugal, I spent some quality vacation time in the North with a base camp in Guimarăes long time ago.

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    you guys ruined EVERYTHING. im going back to passion
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    And now for something entirely different.

    Got the bling ring today. Who'ss the boss?
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    gah, my last link had issues. this should work. Massachusetts, earlier this spring, with my colorful commentary as usual. there is even a quick cameo of Pedalphile, patting my dog
    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/52585148?badge=0" width="500" height="375" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/52585148">bike movie 3-18</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user11099461">Nicole Bolin29</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post

    BTW, I like hearing all the cussing and other dialogue from the rider in the helmet cam vids.
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    i like seeing everybody's "terrain" depending on what part of the country/world they're riding in
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    cant take credit for the vid, but i can take credit for having ridden this exact section tonight for the first time. ate it coming off the red bull wall the first time through but figured it out, and rode it many more times after without a hitch.

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    i took home a souvenir for my efforts too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Beautiful country out there. Those climbs must be steeeep because you are laboring hard.

    I've posted this one somewhere else on MTBR but here it is again. Honorable mention to OO7, who I am chasing!
    That climb with the captions mentioning me having to walk it back in 1997 is so steep it was a near-maximum effort for me. At one point I looked at my Garmin and saw a heart rate of 202. Strava says I hit a max of 204.

    I am doing all these climbs with toe clips and straps instead of clipless. I have clipless pedals on my road bike, but I'm too chickensht to put them on my mtb due to the technical trails I sometimes ride. Clipless would have helped quite a bit on those steep fire road climbs.

    I don't have any good mtb chases like yours, but I have a good one on my climb up Donner Pass Road in September. Since this is "Off Camber", I figure it's okay for me to post a road ride video here. After all, I'm biking up a mountain, right?

    The woman in the last part of this video gave me a hell of a challenge. She probably heard me "freight training uphill" and decided to put the hammer down every time I got close .

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    The woman in the last part of this video gave me a hell of a challenge. She probably heard me "freight training uphill" and decided to put the hammer down every time I got close .
    Don't know about that. Your camera spent an awful lot of time aimed at her butt. Are you sure that you were really trying to pass her?

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    Nice arm strawberry BT!

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    I think they called it a bling ring as a self-defense because it looks really dorky IMHO.


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    yeah buddy! its hurtin for certain this morning haha. i dont care, i have eyeballed that line for a month and never thought i would have the balls to hit it anytime soon... but peer pressure is a mofo, aint it? (and the peers were as stoked as i was, after i got up, went back to the top, and kept on hittin it )

    if i can afford to ride there all winter, and dont destroy my bike in the process, i am gonna be so much better of a rider in the spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Don't know about that. Your camera spent an awful lot of time aimed at her butt. Are you sure that you were really trying to pass her?
    It was a handlebar-mounted ContourGPS camera, so of course it's going to stay pointed straight ahead. Speaking of straight, that's me. A straight female .

    Since the video has 100% natural sound, the sound of my effort should be enough proof that I was working hard on that climb. Here's the data from that ride for further proof: Bike Ride Profile | Donner Pass, Donner Lake Roads near | Times and Records | Strava or
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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    I really enjoy watching these raw footage videos you guys have posted. Sure they don't have any fancy editing, but they show what the rider experienced on the ride, and that's what's important. I love videos that document a ride and let you hear the bike and rider sounds. The ones where the camera is placed on the ground and you can hear the bike flying by are really cool!

    BTW, I like hearing all the cussing and other dialogue from the rider in the helmet cam vids.
    Well i have a video with cursing but it's not in English It also has my own "commentaries" but unfortunately the camera got pointed down somewhere and i only noticed when i got home, as such the camera angle is stupid ... not bad to see the terrain though.

    DISCLAIMER: As always the video is big and boring

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    ^ No gloves?! ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    ^ No gloves?! ^
    They're one of those things i couldn't ever bring myself to use, too frikin hot ... Sometimes i wish i had some when i come home full of scratches from a fall or from those nasty thorned bushes but the discomfort of using them is worse to me. I already have to use gloves all week, don't want to use them when i'm supposed to be having fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    Well i have a video with cursing but it's not in English It also has my own "commentaries" but unfortunately the camera got pointed down somewhere and i only noticed when i got home, as such the camera angle is stupid ... not bad to see the terrain though.

    DISCLAIMER: As always the video is big and boring
    Even with the lack of English, I got a pretty good idea what you were thinking when you encountered the various tough sections .

    Sounds like the ContourROAM has automatic gain control, which is an improvement over the ContourHD and ContourGPS that I have. Those have manual recording level adjustment. I have the HD's mic level set to 45 and the GPS's to 40 in order to capture normal background sounds, but I get distortion on loud noises like yelling and loud engines on vehicles passing me while road riding.

    Trying to get the perfect camera angle is a PITA! I finally got my ContourHD aimed properly by putting two pump straps underneath the front part of the vented helmet mount to raise it up more.
    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    They're one of those things i couldn't ever bring myself to use, too frikin hot ... Sometimes i wish i had some when i come home full of scratches from a fall or from those nasty thorned bushes but the discomfort of using them is worse to me. I already have to use gloves all week, don't want to use them when i'm supposed to be having fun.
    That's how I feel about tight spandex. I refuse to wear it (I do wear gloves though). I hate polyester clothing. I am much more comfortable wearing 100% cotton. All cycling websites say cotton is the worst thing to wear, but I find it wonderful on hot rides when I have a nice baggy tank top on and don't overheat on climbs.

    Besides, I am convinced that motorists treat cyclists better when they think they are just trying to get from point A to point B (commuting to work, running errands, etc). Some motorists feel that cyclists wearing kits are "playing" on "their" roads, while others wearing normal clothes are not. It sucks, but it shows how ignorant some non-cyclists are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    It was a handlebar-mounted ContourGPS camera, so of course it's going to stay pointed straight ahead. Speaking of straight, that's me. A straight female .
    Sorry. I was at work until 11:45 last night, usually get out at 4:30. Tired, and a computer without speakers, will compromise your judgement.

    That looked like a tough climb, you made a great effort. There are some awesome twisty uphills near to me, I've thought about buying a road bike for cardio purposes, but I don't think that I would ride it enough to justify the expense.

    Btw, thanks for keeping your camera pointed at that girls butt for so long, it's almost like you did it just for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Sorry. I was at work until 11:45 last night, usually get out at 4:30. Tired, and a computer without speakers, will compromise your judgement.

    That looked like a tough climb, you made a great effort. There are some awesome twisty uphills near to me, I've thought about buying a road bike for cardio purposes, but I don't think that I would ride it enough to justify the expense.

    Btw, thanks for keeping your camera pointed at that girls butt for so long, it's almost like you did it just for me.
    No problem . I was going for a PR on that climb, which I did get in spite of a back muscle that I strained a week before from sneezing while sitting in a chair, of all things . Boy was I glad when that healed up! That is one of the muscles used in cycling!

    You might be surprised how addicting road cycling can be. If you have good climbs nearby, even more so! I love climbing more than anything, and I like to haul ass on descents. Since it's safer for me to do that on pavement, I spend more time road riding than mountain biking. Another reason for that is the fact that I have to drive to do any mountain biking. There are no good legal trails within riding distance around here.

    California State Parks started charging $10 to park in areas that used to be free, so now I have to find other places to park on mtb rides. I have a personal rule that I will not pay to park a motor vehicle anywhere. I will ride my bike instead, or park further away and ride the rest of the way. I am "car-lite", meaning I use bicycles for practical purposes as well as recreation, and I try to avoid driving unless I absolutely have to.

    Here's a video I know you will like . I recorded this with the helmet cam, and it looks like I was looking at the lead rider's butt, but in reality I was suffering trying to keep up with her. When I am suffering on a climb I put my head down more.

    Bike Ride Profile | WAV Riders Apple Hill Ride near Placerville | Times and Records | Strava
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    Contour | Stories | WAV Riders Apple Hill Ride 9-27-12
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    Well i have a video with cursing but it's not in English It also has my own "commentaries" but unfortunately the camera got pointed down somewhere and i only noticed when i got home, as such the camera angle is stupid ... not bad to see the terrain though.
    The camera angle and its wide FOV make it look like you were riding on one of Little Price's planets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    Here's a video I know you will like . I recorded this with the helmet cam, and it looks like I was looking at the lead rider's butt.
    Thanks. Seriously though, that looked like a fun and tough ride, a few downs mixed in with the ups, I enjoyed the scenery. I like it here in the desert, but I always enjoy getting somewhere that has trees and green.

    You mentioned 250bpm at the beginning of your vid, how long could you sustain that? Back in my early 30's when I was in my running prime, I could hold 194bpm pretty much as long as I cared to, but a maximum effort would only get me to maybe 210. I don't use a heart rate monitor anymore, I'm afraid to see what I'm doing to myself. I love to climb also. I'll be selling a bike soon, maybe I'll do a little road bike shopping. Being a runner since the mid 80's, and a very serious runner for probably 15 years continuous, I fully understand the importance of a good cardio workout. Mountain biking is certainly good for you, but the on/off/on/off isn't as beneficial as a nice sustained effort. As we age, it's more important than ever to stay healthy by exercising and eating right.

    As far as PR's go, I started goofing around with Strava, swore that I wouldn't get into it, now every place that I ride I have my GPS. Now, I get home, mix my Recoverite, sit down to upload my data, and know where I stand before I even get into the shower. I'm such a dork.

    Have a nice day, freighttrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Thanks. Seriously though, that looked like a fun and tough ride, a few downs mixed in with the ups, I enjoyed the scenery. I like it here in the desert, but I always enjoy getting somewhere that has trees and green.

    You mentioned 250bpm at the beginning of your vid, how long could you sustain that? Back in my early 30's when I was in my running prime, I could hold 194bpm pretty much as long as I cared to, but a maximum effort would only get me to maybe 210. I don't use a heart rate monitor anymore, I'm afraid to see what I'm doing to myself. I love to climb also. I'll be selling a bike soon, maybe I'll do a little road bike shopping. Being a runner since the mid 80's, and a very serious runner for probably 15 years continuous, I fully understand the importance of a good cardio workout. Mountain biking is certainly good for you, but the on/off/on/off isn't as beneficial as a nice sustained effort. As we age, it's more important than ever to stay healthy by exercising and eating right.

    As far as PR's go, I started goofing around with Strava, swore that I wouldn't get into it, now every place that I ride I have my GPS. Now, I get home, mix my Recoverite, sit down to upload my data, and know where I stand before I even get into the shower. I'm such a dork.

    Have a nice day, freighttrain.
    Do you mean 205 bpm? I think that's probably pretty close to my max nowadays. When I was 25 years old I had a max HR of 215. I'm sure I would blow up if I tried to maintain the kind of effort you see in the first mtb video I linked to here. The climb in that video was almost maximum effort (and it sounds like it too, believe me! ). On most long climbs I can sustain heart rates in the 180s.

    I think mountain biking is great interval training because of the steep climbs that require intense effort like the one in that video. Road riding gives you the continuous effort over a longer period time. I think that's what burns the most calories too.

    I'm probably even more of a dork. I always make sure I have my Garmin and my camera on my climbing rides. I also just recently purchased the speed/cadence sensor for my road bike. Now I get accurate speed readings that don't jump around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    Do you mean 205 bpm?
    You're right, I was wrong. I re-watched the beginning and you said "215". Kinda sounded like you said 250, that's why I was wondering, it sounded kind of high. But you never know, there are elites out there that can leave us mere mortals in the dust. I'm going to have to dig out my Polar and take it out for a spin, there's a nice trail climb near me that usually takes me about 9 minutes and damn near kills me every time I do it, which is about twice a week, I'm kinda stupid that way. I'm interested now to see what kind of rate I hit, right before my chest explodes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    You're right, I was wrong. I re-watched the beginning and you said "215". Kinda sounded like you said 250, that's why I was wondering, it sounded kind of high. But you never know, there are elites out there that can leave us mere mortals in the dust. I'm going to have to dig out my Polar and take it out for a spin, there's a nice trail climb near me that usually takes me about 9 minutes and damn near kills me every time I do it, which is about twice a week, I'm kinda stupid that way. I'm interested now to see what kind of rate I hit, right before my chest explodes.
    I remember exactly how I found my old max of 215. I found a local hill that is 1/4 mile long and gets steeper as it goes on. I rode up that as hard as I could. After seeing 215 on my Polar on several of those rides, I figured that was as high as I could go.

    I'd love to see raw video of you doing that trail climb. I always want to go out and hammer after watching raw footage of tough climbs posted by other cyclists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    I'd love to see raw video of you doing that trail climb. I always want to go out and hammer after watching raw footage of tough climbs posted by other cyclists.
    It is now on my list of things to do.

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    Time to bump this sucker with some self-embarrassment material from this morning.

    The temp was in lower 40s this morning so I decided to wear my riding pajamas.

    Here's a fun looking rock next to a fire road I have been ignoring until today.


    And here is the dramatic action shot (not).
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    Early morning rides can be tough! Especially when it's cold out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Early morning rides can be tough! Especially when it's cold out!
    Any ride is tough when you're working a swing shift, I am so lazy (and tired).

    Nice rock Sti, that's what it's all about, explore and conquer!!

    Here's a few quickies from my own "rock conquering archive".

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    nothing like the risk of falling into a cactus to keep you on your toes! and Sti, i wuff your yellow bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    nothing like the risk of falling into a cactus to keep you on your toes! and Sti, i wuff your yellow bike.
    Couple of years ago I got a little too close to a particularly nasty little (big) cactus, I was still digging broken off spines out 6 months later as they worked their way to the top. Just about everything out here will puncture you, it's part of the thrill.

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    No cacti here but there are zillions of branches and sticks covered with leaves on the trails after the storm and they seem to spring up at you at any moment. My shins are covered with rivers of blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    And here is the dramatic action shot (not).
    I was making a snarky remark but i'll go film something instead i guess in a couple hours, a bit on the cold side but whatever !
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    I was making a snarky remark but i'll go film something instead i guess in a couple hours, a bit on the cold side but whatever !
    Are you telling me that despite all the investment into this hoax including the hired actor that I made to make you believe I actually own a bike, the video did not hit the mark?

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    1. My buddy Pete (featured in the video I posted earlier) sent this out on his Facebook feed:
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    Invite for America's got talent invite just came in. I'M DOIN IT.


    That's going to be sweet. He deserves it.

    This was my first MTB video edit ever:

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Are you telling me that despite all the investment into this hoax including the hired actor that I made to make you believe I actually own a bike, the video did not hit the mark?
    You almost fooled me but then the yellow frame busted everything ! It's pretty obvious that you would use a bright yellow frame for post processing in After Effects, noob mistake tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    You almost fooled me but then the yellow frame busted everything ! It's pretty obvious that you would use a bright yellow frame for post processing in After Effects, noob mistake tbh
    I learned my lesson and won't make that mistake again. /me would be staying behind the camera from now on, never in front of it.

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    Only I need your guys help. Have any of you seen in person or have pics of the Tarmac Sport Mid Compact in the green/black combo? The LBS does have the black gloss in stock.

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    ...This is to put a road bike on layaway. Yes, layaway with a min payment of 1$ a month so put that in your corn pipe and smoke it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    I'd love to see raw video of you doing that trail climb. I always want to go out and hammer after watching raw footage of tough climbs posted by other cyclists.
    freighttrain, unfortunately, I didn't do it well today. I've attempted this climb about 20 times, I've no dab cleaned it 4. It's .8 miles, 282 feet of elevation gain, average grade of 6.2%, there's a half dozen or so spots where it's 22-26%. I had to dab a few times today, and had to push the 2 steepest sections. I keep showing my HR monitor, but it didn't resolve well, I was pushing 164-170 bpm the whole climb, there was a 2 minute climb right before this one that got me elevated, it ranged anywhere from 10.3 to 27.7%. I had messed up schedule at work all week, I was tired this morning and felt like crap. It bugged me a little that I did get whooped, because I just cleaned this darn hill for my 4th time earlier this week. There will be a next time.

    For any others who watch this, be forewarned, freighttrain asked for a raw climbing video, this is 13+ unedited minutes of me gasping for air.

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    Sure looks like somewhere in the San Gabes with all that typical exposure and huge penalty for failure... but since the huge fires up there and looking like a Mars landscape, I've not been back up to ride any of it. The San Gabes is a young mans game, great challenging ride, but she'll hurt you bad if you make a small mistake.

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    I just got a Club Ride Go West jersey. Normally I wear Lycra, but I'm incredibly impressed but the fit and feel. Plus, it's cycling specific with vents, pockets and moisture wicking properties. If you don't like the look of cycling apparel, check out the Club Ride stuff.

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    Here you go, ambassador, you asked me to help you get your riding fix for the day. Two videos, same trail, the day light one was a while ago, the night one I just did a half an hour ago. I checked my GPS data, tonight was the exact same as my fastest daytime run. My new Ayups work great for riding, pretty much suck for night video.

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    Thanks, but that night vid makes me dizzy.

    Where are these trails?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Thanks, but that night vid makes me dizzy.

    Where are these trails?
    Yeah, the night vid is terrible, the lights worked pretty good for riding though. It's lower Corona de Loma. Corona dumps off National just west of the Buena Vista parking area, goes down to Desert Classic. This trail is the bottom part of it, it drops 128 ft in .4 mile, most of it in the first .25 mile, it's pretty quick, and of course rocky. I usually run it in around 2:08-2:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    freighttrain, unfortunately, I didn't do it well today. I've attempted this climb about 20 times, I've no dab cleaned it 4. It's .8 miles, 282 feet of elevation gain, average grade of 6.2%, there's a half dozen or so spots where it's 22-26%. I had to dab a few times today, and had to push the 2 steepest sections. I keep showing my HR monitor, but it didn't resolve well, I was pushing 164-170 bpm the whole climb, there was a 2 minute climb right before this one that got me elevated, it ranged anywhere from 10.3 to 27.7%. I had messed up schedule at work all week, I was tired this morning and felt like crap. It bugged me a little that I did get whooped, because I just cleaned this darn hill for my 4th time earlier this week. There will be a next time.

    For any others who watch this, be forewarned, freighttrain asked for a raw climbing video, this is 13+ unedited minutes of me gasping for air.
    Thanks for the video. I really needed it! I don't know if there's something in the water around town or what, but I've been putting up with major attitude from people for the past two days. People just don't have any control over their emotions, and they've been taking out their frustrations on uninvolved people, including me.

    The worst was the guy who was acting like a wannabe apartment manager and giving me grief about my bike when I showed up at a memorial for a dear friend who passed away recently. He kept saying I needed to park my bike out front. I told him repeatedly that I was goint to lock it up in the rack in the back parking lot closest to the gathering, but he just wouldn't shut up.

    I finally had to tell him that his behavior was inappropriate and that I was there to pay my respects to my departed friend. He didn't like that either. Oh well.

    I found out later on that the same guy gave a disabled woman grief about her service dog, and b!thced out another tenant about his bicycle.

    Back to the video. That looks like a climb I would love! That first steep section would probably cause me to stall out too, and I would end up dabbing in the same places you did.

    I am debating whether to take a road or mtb ride tomorrow. With all the new fees implemented by California State Parks in areas that used to be free that are close to trailheads, I might just take a road ride because I know I can park for free in the city park where I start the ride from. I'm just not in the mood to deal with any bullshyt. I want to jump on my bike and hammer up some hills, then haul ass back down. I need the intense effort to improve my attitude. Endorphins are the cure for life's BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Paging Mr. Silva, paging Mr. Silva, where is the promised masterpiece?
    Considering that i have a major case of the sniffles, that was postponed. Every time I get a few days off work I get sick, this is why I f' king hate winter .... I never even knew that one person could produce so much mucous

    Optimus that's one great looking trail, we simply don't have that kind of terrain around here, would love to someday ride in a place like that, tired of all this green I have around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Yeah, the night vid is terrible, the lights worked pretty good for riding though. It's lower Corona de Loma. Corona dumps off National just west of the Buena Vista parking area, goes down to Desert Classic. This trail is the bottom part of it, it drops 128 ft in .4 mile, most of it in the first .25 mile, it's pretty quick, and of course rocky. I usually run it in around 2:08-2:15.
    Do you ride any of the other areas besides South Mtn? I think I heard that there's some good riding at North Mtn and isn't there a little area to ride on the North side of Int. 10 on the Western side of Phoenix?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Do you ride any of the other areas besides South Mtn? I think I heard that there's some good riding at North Mtn and isn't there a little area to ride on the North side of Int. 10 on the Western side of Phoenix?
    I live right below South Mountain, 10 minutes by bike and I'm on the trails in the middle, 10 minutes by car and I'm on the trails at the east end. I've ridden North Mountain, yes there's good stuff there, I've been over in the White Tanks once, that's where you mention west of town and north of 10. I've ridden lots out to the east, over by Superior, on the Arizona Trail. 2beerjoe and I a couple of Father's Days ago rode the AZT down off Montana Mountain, out to the east of the valley. It was quite a ride, the trail started up around 5400 ft, was 21 miles back down to hwy 60, and the trail map profile looked like all down hill. Ended up taking us 6 hours, man was it rugged up there, there really wasn't much trail, just kind of a hint of where there might have been one. It was a lot of fun. My wife and son were all worried because I was gone so long, the previous Father's Day I came home with my face all smashed up, a broken finger and a chipped elbow from an OTB. I ride Sedona and Flagstaff a few times a year, climbed up to 10,000 ft on Mt Humphries recently, on mostly single track. So, to make a short answer long for you, yes I ride other places. Here's a couple snaps of the Montana Mountain ride.
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    freighttrain, that's part of why I ride, to get away from the masses. A lot of my rides are planned for times and places where I know there won't be many, if any people. I've done rides at 110 degrees, 20 miles out into nothing and back, never seeing another soul, not even at the trail head. Marvelous.

    I think that I would enjoy your Quarry Trail. Nice climb, by the way.

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    I figured you did, you just hadn't mentioned or supplied vid/pics for any of the other places recently.

    Nice to have South Mtn in your backyard, though... awesome local "stomping grounds".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    I figured you did, you just hadn't mentioned or supplied vid/pics for any of the other places recently.

    Nice to have South Mtn in your backyard, though... awesome local "stomping grounds".

    We've never had an on topic off topic means to share before. I'll dig through the archive for some of the more interesting pics.

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    i had a glorious ride today, but seemed everybody else was having a rough time, breakin shyt. my poor bud had this XTR derailleur for only 3 hours, and....

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    Oh, wow! Did he slam it on a rock and bend it?!

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    a flat slab of a rock, about 6 inches long just flung up in there. kind of a freak thing. it was the only random rock on the flowy section of trail
    wasnt just bent either, pieces just shattered off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    For any others who watch this, be forewarned, freighttrain asked for a raw climbing video, this is 13+ unedited minutes of me gasping for air.
    Nice climb! I ride a comparable one (distance, elevation gain) near my office once every full moon, only mine is littered with rocks, mud and tons of roots. I tried to persuade Nicole to ride there with me and my friend but she would not ride without her wolfpack.

    I have no video but if you do strava, here is a link to the segment. Strava Segment | Howard St Climb

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    a flat slab of a rock, about 6 inches long just flung up in there. kind of a freak thing. it was the only random rock on the flowy section of trail
    wasnt just bent either, pieces just shattered off
    That's why I ride with a SLX RD. Comparable performance, more robust, only slightly heavier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Nice climb! I ride a comparable one (distance, elevation gain) near my office once every full moon, only mine is littered with rocks, mud and tons of roots. I tried to persuade Nicole to ride there with me and my friend but she would not ride without her wolfpack.

    I have no video but if you do strava, here is a link to the segment. Strava Segment | Howard St Climb
    wha? when did i turn down a ride? if you mean that day we fitted tires, i didnt have any gear with me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    i had a glorious ride today, but seemed everybody else was having a rough time, breakin shyt. my poor bud had this XTR derailleur for only 3 hours, and....

    Ouch! That's why I only own cheap SRAM X7. Ironically, knock on wood, I've never broken a derailleur or hanger yet.

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    Tried to get out for another ride tonight but couldn't get the usual suspects to participate (I didn't want to ride alone) so I stayed home and did some things that needed to be taken care of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Tried to get out for another ride tonight but couldn't get the usual suspects to participate (I didn't want to ride alone) so I stayed home and did some things that needed to be taken care of.
    I rode twice today - I had a great early morning ride with a next door buddy and an evening relaxing ride with wifey.

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    I rode yesterday with the slow/fat group ride. Slow indeed. I think our average speed was like 5-6mph. on an easy mostly buff flat trail, with plenty of stops. It was fun though. Sometimes you need to go that slow to be able to enjoy going full tilt.

    I wanted to ride today but do to a mishap involving a glass bottle, fire and water being spit from a tree, I didn't. The burn on my hand looks funny though because the flesh is burnt around my callouses from work/riding but the callouses are fine.

    There's a six hour race on the 18th I'm doing. I'll post some flicks after that for sure.
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    im coming to the realization that drunken night rides are not my forte. clearly i need more practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big terry View Post
    im coming to the realization that drunken night rides are not my forte. clearly i need more practice.
    Can you supply some details/results/events/highlights?

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    We rode yesterday and today. It was quite overcast today and because of the time change we needed our lights by 5pm! Dark days are ahead
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    I'm glad you guys (and gals) got out there. I busted my bottom all weekend long with work. Worked straight through since last Monday and gonna keep on going right through this week!

    Next day off: Saturday

    EDIT: of course, I will get in a few workout loop rides, though.

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    Hope you can break up the work grind a bit... don't want you to get grumpy
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    i learned that the hard way too Terry, i dont think i can ever drink as much again, as i did friday (i wasnt blackout drunk, but enough to make night mtb'ing feel really shaky and stupid) we rode somehwere very easy, but we were out for many hours and i was just aching so bad, with random black n blues. Next time, i'm only drinking slightly less than that, haha. i also seem to remember making some very embarrassing confessions to some new friends. eek. i'm sure i'll get reminded
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    i learned that the hard way too Terry, i dont think i can ever drink as much again, as i did friday (i wasnt blackout drunk, but enough to make night mtb'ing feel really shaky and stupid) we rode somehwere very easy, but we were out for many hours and i was just aching so bad, with random black n blues. Next time, i'm only drinking slightly less than that, haha. i also seem to remember making some very embarrassing confessions to some new friends. eek. i'm sure i'll get reminded
    You are such a tease! .... OK, I'll bite, what confessions?

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    Few pics from the archive, Pass Mountain, I've ridden here a few times, 1/2 hour from home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Can you supply some details/results/events/highlights?
    well, i got started way too soon...i was a passenger on the road trip, didnt have to drive, so i was well juiced by the time we got there. barely had time to set up the tent before it was time to ride. it was my first time on the trail- i had never even ridden it in daylight before- and it is, in places, above my ability to ride (even sober ). i found that out the hard way, a few miles in, when i went over a smallish jump on a downhill line, and blew my front tire on the landing- going otb and faceplanting in the rocks. i was encouraged to take the ride out in the sag truck, and i had pretty much come to that conclusion before it was even offered to me. the truck happened to have all the beer, too so not a total waste.

    im gonna need to practice on trails i know, before i do anymore new trails at night. being half faced didnt help but not knowing the terrain, i think, was my biggest issue. other than that it was really freakin cool to be riding in the woods and see a chain of headlights hundreds of yards long, snaking through the woods and hills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big terry View Post
    well, i got started way too soon...i was a passenger on the road trip, didnt have to drive, so i was well juiced by the time we got there. barely had time to set up the tent before it was time to ride. it was my first time on the trail- i had never even ridden it in daylight before- and it is, in places, above my ability to ride (even sober ). i found that out the hard way, a few miles in, when i went over a smallish jump on a downhill line, and blew my front tire on the landing- going otb and faceplanting in the rocks. i was encouraged to take the ride out in the sag truck, and i had pretty much come to that conclusion before it was even offered to me. the truck happened to have all the beer, too so not a total waste.

    im gonna need to practice on trails i know, before i do anymore new trails at night. being half faced didnt help but not knowing the terrain, i think, was my biggest issue. other than that it was really freakin cool to be riding in the woods and see a chain of headlights hundreds of yards long, snaking through the woods and hills.
    Agreed. I wouldn't rode any trail at night that I wasn't already familiar with, and being buzzed in addition is a recipe for trouble.

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    It is getting dark awfully early now, I am thinking about riding some of the tamer trails at night. A helmet mounted Mag lite should suffice, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    It is getting dark awfully early now, I am thinking about riding some of the tamer trails at night. A helmet mounted Mag lite should suffice, right?
    Mag lights are pretty expensive.

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    I got a new bike today


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    I've wanted to try one of those for a long time. Today I managed to swap for repairing a couple of carbon fiber exhausts for a moto trial bike.
    Now that's gonna be good fun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
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    I've wanted to try one of those for a long time. Today I managed to swap for repairing a couple of carbon fiber exhausts for a moto trial bike.
    Now that's gonna be good fun.


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    I cannot see how riding this could be safe. It is obviously missing reflectors in both wheels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    I cannot see how riding this could be safe. It is obviously missing reflectors in both wheels!
    To be honest, I agree that thing is not safe, and I'd wish I could blame it on the reflectors


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    That's a beauty--is the model name the "Nutcracker"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
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    I have a feeling it will be baptized "Nutcracker" in the nearest future.

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    Yesterday's ride was definitely an "Off Camber", off-topic ride (on-topic for RBR though ). I wanted a smooth fast ride and no parking issues, so I did a road ride. Looking at everyone's videos and pictures in this thread makes me miss the dirt though, so maybe I'll sneak a mtb ride in this week.

    I wish I lived near that Helipad climb that Optimus posted video of. You know I'd be right there with camera recording as always!

    The thing I like about the country roads I rode yesterday is the continuous effort with minimal stopping and minimal traffic. There aren't any stop signs or traffic signals and I don't have to pull over and stop every time another road user approaches, so I can burn off more fat (hopefully!) and keep a rhythm going.

    Even though this was a road ride, I made sure it had plenty of climbing like my favorite mtb rides. On the way up one hill, the lead rider in a group of three descending cyclists saw me and said hi. When I said hi back to him he yelled "Hey I know you! I did, uh, Scott's ride!".

    "Scott" is a member of a cycling club I'm also a member of, and he leads some of the best climbing sufferfests you could ask for. Unfortunately I'm too fat and slow to keep up with those hammerheads. I'm also the wrong gender . Nature didn't bless most women with the strength to keep up with male mountain goat cyclists . Strava reminds me of that every time I post a ride and compare myself to men and women instead of just women.

    Bike Ride Profile | Malcolm Dixon, Deer Valley Roads near El Dorado Hills | Times and Records | Strava

    Here's the Garmin Connect version of the same ride, useful for those who aren't on Strava. You don't need to be a member and logged in to see all the data on Garmin Connect: Malcolm Dixon, Deer Valley Roads by freighttraininguphill at Garmin Connect - Details

    Here's video of that ride. You can see and hear the other rider who recognized me from the climbing sufferfest club ride starting at 3:38.

    Malcolm Dixon, Deer Valley Road ride 11-4-12 - YouTube
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    I only found one thing worthy of a picture-a misspelled street sign.


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    Anyone decorating their bike for the holiday season? I just received my order for a short strand of 10 LED lit icicles powered by 2 AA batteries! I'll probably wrap it around the rails of my saddle and string the rest on down the seat post.

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    No but im waiting for my winter tires to get here. Purgatory 2.3F Ground control 2.3R. Also after I thought my LBS used Bonti TLR strips and valves I found out they used Stans, hey it was for free so no harm but today put in order for the Bonti kit as well. Still going to use the Stans fluid though.

    Phoned in.

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    "I roll Ground Controls front and rear 365 days a year".

    We don't get "Winter" here and these tires work well for our "loose over hardpack" terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    No but im waiting for my winter tires to get here. Purgatory 2.3F Ground control 2.3R. Also after I thought my LBS used Bonti TLR strips and valves I found out they used Stans, hey it was for free so no harm but today put in order for the Bonti kit as well. Still going to use the Stans fluid though.

    Phoned in.
    Personal experience with both tires, granted it's in the dry, but I'd run the ground Control on front and the Purgatory on back. GC 2.3 doesn't "look" overly impressive, but it grabs extremely well.

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    Yea, I hope they are promising. Was going to get a different set but decided otherwise.

    Phoned in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Personal experience with both tires, granted it's in the dry, but I'd run the ground Control on front and the Purgatory on back. GC 2.3 doesn't "look" overly impressive, but it grabs extremely well.
    GCs remind me of the old Specialized tire Roll-X, which I loved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrainuphill View Post
    I wanted a smooth fast ride and no parking issues, so I did a road ride. The thing I like about the country roads I rode yesterday is the continuous effort with minimal stopping and minimal traffic.

    Nature didn't bless most women with the strength to keep up with male mountain goat cyclists . Strava reminds me of that every time I post a ride and compare myself to men and women instead of just women.
    Very nice ride. 5 PR's, some nice sustained climbs, 5ish continuous miles of primarily 5-7% grades, not too shabby at all.

    Funny that you compare yourself to the men, I find that I compare myself to the women. I'll never be able to compete with the top tier men, but I get a kick out of it when I'm almost as fast as the upper echelon women. It's fun though just to see where you stand against your peers. Climbing, I tend to be toward the back of the pack, descending definitely well into the front.

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    Opti, what tires do you roll on over that jagged rocky terrain that makes up the Valley of the Sun?

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    I'm working on my winter set up. The current set up is Bontrager XR-1s (1.9"s). When the trail is in good shape, they are great. Put a little loose sand on top--they turn into a mess. Last winter was a disaster. They were too narrow for snow and had no traction on the icy stuff.

    I now have a set of bontrager 29-2 2.1" tires that I'm going to try this winter. Hopefully they will work. I only paid $10 for the set (they were take offs gathering dust in the LBS), but I wanted wider. If they don't work, I'll have a new set of tires to try next year.

    Perhaps next year I'll have to pick up a fat bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Opti, what tires do you roll on over that jagged rocky terrain that makes up the Valley of the Sun?
    I really like Specialized tires, they hold up well for me and their performance is certainly acceptable. On my single speed I was liking a Captain 2.2 rear, Eskar 2.3 front, control casing. Can't get Eskars anymore, switched to Ground Controls on the SS, awesome for the assigned mission. On my AM bikes, which are both 29ers, I really like a Butcher 2.3 control front. Being as it just came out, I was riding a 2.4 Purgatory on front. I like a 2.3 Purgatory rear. I do have a Pivot Firebird also that I never ride, I like my 29ers, I ride Butcher front and Clutch rear on the Bird but in SX casing, very tough tire. I run everything tubeless. I wear out a half dozen tires a year, but only slice maybe one. I'd really like a 29er tire as tough as an SX, although it would be a little bit heavy.

    I'll be selling the Bird soon, size large, very nice condition although it has been dumped a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyall View Post
    I'm working on my winter set up. The current set up is Bontrager XR-1s (1.9"s). When the trail is in good shape, they are great. Put a little loose sand on top--they turn into a mess. Last winter was a disaster. They were too narrow for snow and had no traction on the icy stuff.

    I now have a set of bontrager 29-2 2.1" tires that I'm going to try this winter. Hopefully they will work. I only paid $10 for the set (they were take offs gathering dust in the LBS), but I wanted wider. If they don't work, I'll have a new set of tires to try next year.

    Perhaps next year I'll have to pick up a fat bike
    I was looking at running the 29-3F, 29-2R as my other set up. Until I saw how few reply's in a thread I started asking about them. FWIW the 29-2 looked to be a promising rear tire and if you want you could run it in a 2.35 up front. Those should be a good tire out your way though if it doesn't get to wet. The XR2/26 at the LBS is almost identical to the 29-2 and wanted to to go overkill for this winter. Thus went with the more burly set up.

    Why do I have a feeling your referring to the older version and not the new one and I just typed this up for practice at typing....

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    They are the older ones best I can tell (not the same as the website). The old tread pattern looks better for winter, though.
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    He does have a good point though.

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    So new tires came in. Just waiting on the TLRS. They are nice looking.

    Anyway.... you know that awkward moment when you take a week off cause your sick and have poison ivy growing on your arm and you can't take it anymore so you go out for a night ride only to run into team members finishing up a night ride and you missed a race a couple days before that was a night race. So you your all like "hey" all awkward like especially cause their doing the trail backwards and you have your lights on full blast total 2400 lumens est*.

    But wait there's more so you turn down your lights and that's that and your doing your usual laps only to come onto a new section at night and your like wtf, um, this is new. So you do your two laps freezing your toes, hands, and not sure if your balls have dropped back to normal status. Then you come on here.

    Anyone else ever get that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutch3637 View Post
    So new tires came in. Just waiting on the TLRS. They are nice looking.

    Anyway.... you know that awkward moment when you take a week off cause your sick and have poison ivy growing on your arm and you can't take it anymore so you go out for a night ride only to run into team members finishing up a night ride and you missed a race a couple days before that was a night race. So you your all like "hey" all awkward like especially cause their doing the trail backwards and you have your lights on full blast total 2400 lumens est*.

    But wait there's more so you turn down your lights and that's that and your doing your usual laps only to come onto a new section at night and your like wtf, um, this is new. So you do your two laps freezing your toes, hands, and not sure if your balls have dropped back to normal status. Then you come on here.

    Anyone else ever get that?

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    Ummm, well..., no.

    But I can picture you all cuddly/cozy in your burrito style blanket body wrap.

    Post a pic of the new tread!

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