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    Just wondering if any one uses the sony action camera and if it is any good? Was looking for one but want one that is low profile the Hero looks funny attached to the top of my helmets. Also I am afraid of it snapping of when I go skiing in the glades.

    I know the sony comes with a bike mount and goggle mount.
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    I do not but just got word that we may be carrying them in the shop soon. I checked them out and they look alright. With contour out there is a place for the lower cost "action camera". I am sure it will work just fine for your needs. It hard to beat GoPro, but the price is a killer for some. Also, being a member of the "boxy camera" club is fun. IF you can swing the $$$ I'd just go with the GoPro. Stay away from the Hero3 completely. The 3+ is getting good reviews but the best in my opinion is the Hero2 for the average consumer. You can find those fairly cheap now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sodak View Post
    I do not but just got word that we may be carrying them in the shop soon. I checked them out and they look alright. With contour out there is a place for the lower cost "action camera". I am sure it will work just fine for your needs. It hard to beat GoPro, but the price is a killer for some. Also, being a member of the "boxy camera" club is fun. IF you can swing the $$$ I'd just go with the GoPro. Stay away from the Hero3 completely. The 3+ is getting good reviews but the best in my opinion is the Hero2 for the average consumer. You can find those fairly cheap now.
    I looked at that but when I ski through the glades I am afraid of a branch snapping off the camera. I was looking for some thing that attached to the side of the helmet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deke505 View Post
    I looked at that but when I ski through the glades I am afraid of a branch snapping off the camera. I was looking for some thing that attached to the side of the helmet.
    I understand completely. I always like that Contour was side mounted and sleek, as is the Sony. You can mount the GoPro almost anywhere, but I agree it sticks out a bit too much. As for the durability of the GoPro, it's pretty solid. I hit branches on the bike and rocks while upside down in the kayak. I have only broke it off once and that was class 4 whitewater carnage, the base mount broke. Scratches on the housing lens is what kills me. I am on my 3rd housing this year. The key to any camera is to tether it to your helmet using thin cording. If it does break off the mount at least it's still dangling on your helmet.
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    I have a GP Hero2 and love it. I just need to get a bike mount as the helmet shots don't do the trails any justice. I bought mine for a trip to Costa Rica to use for the surfing, zip-lining, cliff/waterfall jumping etc. shenanigans and have used it for all kinds of vacation videos and pics. So I guess for a do-it-all type mini cam it's perfect but other cams may be better for helmet/bike mounting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sodak View Post
    Stay away from the Hero3 completely. The 3+ is getting good reviews but the best in my opinion is the Hero2 for the average consumer. You can find those fairly cheap now.
    Is this advice still valid a year later? Looking to get one for some fun as opposed to serious videos.
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    I got a Garmin Virb Elite a few months ago. It was on sale so it was the same price as the standard Virb. It's pretty sweet seeing all the GPS data on the screen, real-time with the video. That, and the non-boxy shape, are why I bought it instead of a GoPro. I've been using the large round tube mount on my handlebar and it works great. Sturdy and easily adjustable. The camera also comes with an adapter so that you can use it with any GoPro/GoPro-compatible third-party mounts. It's waterproof/dustproof/etc right out of the box, so you don't need an extra case like GoPro/Sony to be able to use it anywhere outdoors. A dive case is available if you're submerging it, but it's supposed to be fine for skiing and stuff without the dive case. I haven't used it while skiing though. Gimme a few months for that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scubapiper View Post
    Is this advice still valid a year later? Looking to get one for some fun as opposed to serious videos.
    The Hero 3+ turned out to be pretty awesome. But,... GoPro will be releasing the Hero4 very soon.
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    I may be in the market for a new/better compact video camera.

    Perhaps a GoPro but I need to know from anyone here who has one whether or not they also work for making home porn movies.
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    The wide angle lens would make your ass look big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    The wide angle lens would make your ass look big.
    What about for close ups?

    ..and can't you adjust the angle? I think I can on my Contour (a few degrees, anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    The wide angle lens would make your ass look big.
    Gross...wide angle pizza butt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Gross...wide angle pizza butt
    You just can't get the pizza butt thing out of your mind, huh Korn?

    Is it possible that you have a secret pizza butt fetish?
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    All I need are some tasty trails, cool bike, and I'm fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawg View Post
    What about for close ups?
    ..and can't you adjust the angle? I think I can on my Contour (a few degrees, anyway).
    I think with the silver and black models, you get a lot more FOV choices, but I have the lowly white edition, and I get 170 (ultra wide) in all but 1080p. 1080p, is defined as "medium FOV", which I would guess is 135 ????

    I did not know Contour offered an adjustment. I'll have to hook mine up to Storyteller and check that out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by net wurker View Post
    I think with the silver and black models, you get a lot more FOV choices, but I have the lowly white edition, and I get 170 (ultra wide) in all but 1080p. 1080p, is defined as "medium FOV", which I would guess is 135 ????

    I did not know Contour offered an adjustment. I'll have to hook mine up to Storyteller and check that out.
    I believe that the 960 setting is more narrow/taller than the others.
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    Re: Action Cameras

    I like attaching it to my unit for close up insertion POV. It's like you're right there in the action. I find that the roll bar mount is perfect for this application.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bro View Post
    I got a Garmin Virb Elite a few months ago. It was on sale so it was the same price as the standard Virb. It's pretty sweet seeing all the GPS data on the screen, real-time with the video. That, and the non-boxy shape, are why I bought it instead of a GoPro. I've been using the large round tube mount on my handlebar and it works great. Sturdy and easily adjustable. The camera also comes with an adapter so that you can use it with any GoPro/GoPro-compatible third-party mounts. It's waterproof/dustproof/etc right out of the box, so you don't need an extra case like GoPro/Sony to be able to use it anywhere outdoors. A dive case is available if you're submerging it, but it's supposed to be fine for skiing and stuff without the dive case. I haven't used it while skiing though. Gimme a few months for that one.
    i've been considering a virb as well. although i've done some research on it i have few questions for an actual real world user: how is battery life? how is the image stabilization? how smooth is it on rough terrain? how is the HD mode? how many minutes of footage can you shoot on one card? what is the process of showing the gps data on the video?
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    This guy did a pretty comprehensive review of the new Garmin cameras....

    Garmin VIRB & VIRB Elite In-Depth Review | DC Rainmaker
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    get the go-pro 3+ (my most recent cam). i've used the sony and the contour. your main issue will be mounting pov's, the go-pro is the best, most versatile and has the most accessories. speaking of which the first ones you should get is:

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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    i've been considering a virb as well. although i've done some research on it i have few questions for an actual real world user: how is battery life? how is the image stabilization? how smooth is it on rough terrain? how is the HD mode? how many minutes of footage can you shoot on one card? what is the process of showing the gps data on the video?
    The battery is tricky, and that's basically the one problem that I've had with it. Garmin says the battery life is ~2.5 hours, and it's reached that exactly once while riding. For some reason, the battery doesn't always accept a charge, but that can be remedied by re-installing the battery. Not optimal, but not a deal-breaker either. Sometimes the camera thinks the battery is dead and shuts down mid-ride, but then I'll turn it back on and it still has half a battery left.

    As for the other questions: it can take up to a 64gb micro SD card, so that's plenty for the life of the battery. Just out of habit, I remove videos from the card after importing them to my computer.

    GPS data is shown as a bunch of mini graphics superimposed on the actual video. Lots of different options, which are all easily configured in Virb Edit: lateral Gs, altitude, speed, a map, a few others I believe, and input from any other ANT+ device that you pair with it (temp, HR, power, etc). I paired my HR monitor with it, but I haven't yet figured out how to show that on the video. Haven't spent much time mucking around with the Virb Edit software though.

    As to the video: my computer has had a really hard time playing videos so I haven't been able to see much in the way of playback. But on 1080p, the image is sharp and true. It has some other settings, like time lapse and slow-mo, but I haven't messed around with those.

    The camera has been through a few thunderstorms, and lots of dust otherwise on the bike, and it's still working just great. One rainstorm in particular threw up a lot of crap from the road while I was on my bike, and I just rinsed off the camera and the rest of the bike with the garden hose when I got home. Looking bright and shiny as new.

    Edit: Here's a screenshot from one of my recent rides. GPS data gives compass heading, speed, altitude, distance, time, and map. I think that's the Garmin-recommended setting for cycling videos.
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    the plethora of accessories is one of the big draws to me for the gopro. granted, the virb will use any gopro mount, but the gopro has some seriously cool stuff that the virb simply does not due to being new to the arena.

    the other factor is size/shape. the virb is small and sleek while the gopro is kind of boxy. my last setup was a bullet cam that was unobtrusive when mounted on my helmet. guess i need to go handle a gopro and get the feel for it.
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    thanks for that review, NW. haven't read that one.

    and thanks for your review, bro. that's just the kind of real world input i'm looking for.

    if anyone else has experience with the virb, please chime in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    thanks for that review, NW. haven't read that one.

    and thanks for your review, bro. that's just the kind of real world input i'm looking for.

    if anyone else has experience with the virb, please chime in.
    That DC Rainmaker review is really what prompted me to look further into the Virb. If you have any other questions, I might have answers.

    I also just remembered that the Virb has a built-in inclinometer, so that you can set it up exactly level when it's on the handlebar or seatpost or whatever. Nice to have it level so that it doesn't look like you're always climbing or descending.
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