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    Is a 29er OK For a Dwarf (little person) Please Help Rex....

    Do you guys think a 29er is ok for my neighbour who is a 'little person' Dwarf.
    Im asking because he seems to be very keen on buying one, but he is about 36 inches high.
    He is the nicest guy you would ever meet and a dear friend of mine, But he really has his heart set on buying a 29er.
    I tend to think it might be a bit to tall for him, but im trying to let him down gently and tell him he could be better suited to a 26er..

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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    P.S this thread originally spent 4 days in the 29er forum where a lot of valuable posts where made, it was then for some reason that im not sure why, was removed and spent a day in the mtbr abyss but now its back to help my friend rex buy a 29er which is now seriously happening..

    Thankyou to all the kind posters from the 29er forum, you guys really helped a little guy with a big heart out with some excellent advise.

    cheers and thanks now lets get back to rex and his ambition.....
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    And please refrain from any jokes or anything like that in this thread, cheers
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    I think he would be better served by getting a custom bike at his height, regardless of wheel size. A few years ago they had that show about the little people on Discovery and the teenage boy had a custom build FS bike made by local builder. The bike turned out great and he was hucking it and having a blast. Might suggest that route for your friend if he can afford it.
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    I think the main problem would be his feet not reaching pedals no matter how low saddle is regardless of wheel size. That said, I think a dirt jumper would be a better fit for him - if he can reach handlebars while pedalling, that would save him a lot of money since he can ride a stock bike rather than a custom bike.
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    I am not sure of a stock 29er that would fit. Trek makes a bike called the Cali. It is a womens 29er, but the Cali SL comes in a cool mat black but the smallest size is a 14" that is probably too big. Scott makes a good option and so does GT.
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    All 3 are solid performers, but the Scott and GT would probably be a much better fit.

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    If serious, I am pretty sure I would go the custom route especially if wanting a 29er.
    I don't know of any bikes that have a stand over height lower than the center of the wheel and I am guessing a 3' dwarf doesn't have much if any over the center point of a 29" wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparticus View Post
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    36"?
    If not serious, this would probably be one of the worst threads ever...

    If serious, then I'd think custom is the only way to go. My son's mtb with 20" wheels is just about comfortable for him and he's 44" tall. His BMX is a 16" Cult and fits him like a glove for that type of riding.

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    Pretty sure the bars are going to be taller than he is. Have him test ride one just so he can see the many reasons this won't work.

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    I'm 5'4" rider with 13 inch frame 29er bike. I would say that anyone who below 5 feets might be too big bike.
    Also need to be concern about how far the bar from seat.
    I would suggest you and your friend to go to two or three bike shops and test all mt. Bikes, whatever is 29er,26,24 inches bike.
    My little son is 8 years old and he is 51 inch now and riding full suspension 20inchs bike.
    Another factor about bigger bikes for small person is they tend to be more bulky. My son is not ready for his brother's 24 inch bike due to weight of the bike, and bulky for him.

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    Is a 29er OK For a Dwarf  (little person) Please Help..-troll-troll-face-l.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    If serious, I am pretty sure I would go the custom route especially if wanting a 29er.
    I don't know of any bikes that have a stand over height lower than the center of the wheel and I am guessing a 3' dwarf doesn't have much if any over the center point of a 29" wheel.
    This is the key to this thread...In order to get a seatpost down to the 20" height range, the entire frame would almost have an upside down look to it. I don't think you can get anywhere close with a stock bike, since even a 13" frame 29er (smallest I know of) is almost all your reach just in the seat tube length, not even considering ground clearance. Also, it is worth considering the weight of the bike. I'm not sure of the weight of your friend, but I would guess he would have a hard time with the weight of a 29er, especially without the help of stabilizing himself on the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenaustin View Post
    If not serious, this would probably be one of the worst threads ever...
    Agreed and I meant no disrespect. It's just that 36" (3 feet) tall seems impossibly short to fit on a 29er, maybe even too short to fit on a 26er.
    I don't know anything about dwarfism so I did a little research. Here's what I read on the Little People Of America site (lpaonline.org):

    Q: What is the definition of dwarfism?


    A: Little People of America (LPA) defines dwarfism as a medical or genetic condition that usually results in an adult height of 4'10" or shorter, among both men and women, although in some cases a person with a dwarfing condition may be slightly taller than that. The average height of an adult with dwarfism is 4’0, but typical heights range from 2’8 to 4’8.

    4'10" is 58". OP references his 36" neighbor. "Typical heights" range from 32" so I guess 36" is not unheard of. In any case I just can't imagine anyone that height riding a 29er.

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    Knowing Tone, I am guessing it is a joke.

    That being said, maybe if he can ride wearing these.
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    Guessing he's taking a jab at this thread ---> Short guy on a 29er?
    Meh, I fail to see the humor in this

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    Probably but just in case he isn't I think his buddy should go all out.

    A 36" dude needs 39" wheels.

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    My spidey sense is tingling.

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    Thanks guys for your very thoughtful replies, i spoke to him this morning and he seems very interested in the santa cruz carbon tallboy, im not sure if i can talk him down, he seems to think that if he wears platform style shoes to bring his overall height to 40'' that he will be ok.
    He is hell bent on getting a 40mm stem and pushing the seat all the way forward, i tend to think that a BMX would be a smarter option, but he really wants to ride some technical AM trails and a BMX would not be very good for this.
    He does only have very little arms and legs and im worried he will not be able to reach the bars and pedals, further more he wants to buy the bike 'unseen', ive told him to get a proper fit, but he says he will be ok, cheers
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    Tone's what in the world is going on here? You know you can't fit or find a bike on the internet.


    If by some miracle you are serious, take a look at bikes like these:
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    With all due respect, I'd say a 29er would be the worst possible course of action for him, period. It would be like a 6 foot tall person riding a bike with 60 inch (5 foot) wheels. Not too long ago, I saw a little person riding a 24 inch bike, and he seemed to do ok with it. I didn't confirm how tall he was, but maybe 4 foot tall or shorter. However, it seems like 24 inch wheels might even be too big for someone who is 36 inches tall, as the wheel would be two thirds as tall as him.

    Sounds like he has some money to spend. Assuming he is able to successfully ride a 24 inch bike on a test ride, why not steer him toward a super sweet 24 inch mountain bike like this 24 inch Kona Stinky:

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    If he wants to purchase unseen, go for it, but I would suggest at least going to Walmart and seeing if it is even possible to get up on one of their cheap 29ers. To be honest, I don't think it's possible, at all. Also, why pick a bike where I don't even think they make a Small size frame? I also question whether this is a real situation, but I'm assuming it is because it would otherwise be a complete failure at humor...

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    Hmm.
    Short guy on 29er
    New rider wanting to ride technical trails
    New rider with mind set on certain bike (not sampling different bikes)
    Buying a bike on the internet
    Not wanting to get 'fit'
    Definitely touching on several threads.
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    Tone's, I'm going to allow you a mulligan. You can pick this one up and walk away, and I'll pretend it never happened out of respect for some of your other fine posts.

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    Tone, maybe your friend knows what he is doing.
    Don't sell him short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Thanks guys for your very thoughtful replies, i spoke to him this morning and he seems very interested in the santa cruz carbon tallboy, im not sure if i can talk him down, he seems to think that if he wears platform style shoes to bring his overall height to 40'' that he will be ok.
    He is hell bent on getting a 40mm stem and pushing the seat all the way forward, i tend to think that a BMX would be a smarter option, but he really wants to ride some technical AM trails and a BMX would not be very good for this.
    He does only have very little arms and legs and im worried he will not be able to reach the bars and pedals, further more he wants to buy the bike 'unseen', ive told him to get a proper fit, but he says he will be ok, cheers
    although i am sure he can be fitted to a nice 29er, my concern is tire change. can you measure his arms reach - it has to be at least 32" which may be a bit optimistic given that his height is 36".

    if he measures at least 32" reach - i say go for the tallboy.

    please let us know how it goes.
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    [QUOTE=kahneyjd;10124164]I am not sure of a stock 29er that would fit. Trek makes a bike called the Cali. It is a womens 29er, but the Cali SL comes in a cool mat black but the smallest size is a 14" that is probably too big. Scott makes a good option and so does GT.
    Here is the Scott:
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    Thanks for the links mate, but im pretty sure he doesnt want a kids or chicks bike, he is now talking of putting on cruizer style bars on the tallboy he is going to order, you know the ones that bend around and face the rider so he can reach the bar, because he basically has very short arms and short legs too as you could imagine only being 36' high, but taking into account, he will be 40' high with platform shoes on he tells me..
    Cheers and thanks for the help..
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    Yeah I'm going go with def not, and with platform shoes? Sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

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    Re: Is a 29er OK For a Dwarf (little person) Please Help..

    Tell him 29rs are all played out, the industry has moved on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malibu412 View Post




    (I looked for a Roo fishing but none to be found)
    Are you sure that bear is fishing Malibu? looks like he could be doing something else to me..

    And on a serious note, i stated in my OP to please refrain from any joking in this thread, its a serious question im asking, im sure you all can understand that, cheers
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    Tones, the real important question is, we know his height, but how does he measure up inside the pants? That will also play into the decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    Tones, the real important question is, we know his height, but how does he measure up inside the pants? That will also play into the decision.

    Nic, please explain a bit more, you know i value your thoughts and contributions, do you really think that how he measures up inside the pants will effect the final choice of bike, ive never really though about it before.
    He has a mate that calls him 'mule' but i was always too afraid to ask what it meant..
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    yes, because it could affect his center of gravity for one thing, Also, 29ers make riding a bit easier (though, maybe not for a dwarf). if he measures well in the pants, then maybe he needs a bigger challenge. maybe 24 inch wheels (rigid). i was going to suggest even a unicycle but that might bring up circus midget jokes and we dont want that.
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    I think this thread is perhaps a measurement of what is inside Tone's pants. Not much believable substance...

    Have your friend go to a bike shop and have a proper fitting. I'm thinking a 20" SS stingray might be more his size at 3 feet.

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    OK you clowns, enough of the shenannigens, please lets get back on topic, cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    OK you clowns, enough of the shenannigens, please lets get back on topic, cheers
    I think we need pictures of your friend, in riding gear including the platform shoes next to a tape measure to get the best estimate for fitting

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanofChaos View Post
    I think we need pictures of your friend, in riding gear including the platform shoes next to a tape measure to get the best estimate for fitting
    and a picture of your girlfriend too. just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    and a picture of your girlfriend too. just in case.
    what if they are the same person?

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    even better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    He has a mate that calls him 'mule' but i was always too afraid to ask what it meant..
    Uh yea ... time to call ******** on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    even better.
    Love it! And it may indeed be an "it".... neutral gender.

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    Sounds like the perfect 650b candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy View Post
    Love it! And it may indeed be an "it".... neutral gender.
    ohh, then "big in the pants" could be a portal to another dimension

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    Quote Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    and a picture of your girlfriend too. just in case.
    Are we into girlfriends now? I am not opposed at all.

    Nic do you mind starting with yours?

    Tones - what's your friends name? Did I miss it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydrogeek View Post
    Uh yea ... time to call ******** on this thread.
    I think you got nothin' to back it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanofChaos View Post
    ohh, then "big in the pants" could be a portal to another dimension
    I defer to NicoleB28, she, ahem, brought "it" up

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    your friend is mental if he thinks a 29er is a good pick for him. this thread is ridiculous, why would he do all the things you should never do when buying a bike. i think his nickname should be jackass not mule. hes opposed to a chicks bike but willing to wear platform shoes? LOL!

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    Heck yeah! When I used to go to the circus, I recall seeing lots of dwarves riding 29ers, and larger!

    It IS possible!

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