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    Syntheroid

    Anyone have any insight on this testosterone booster?

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    That is not testosterone booster. It is a synthetic form of levothyroxine. Used as a replacement for people with hypothyroidism. I would not use it if you dont need it can cause serious problems in high levels in the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rg1 View Post
    That is not testosterone booster. It is a synthetic form of levothyroxine. Used as a replacement for people with hypothyroidism. I would not use it if you dont need it can cause serious problems in high levels in the body.
    You are thinking of synthroid, it's different than syntheroid. Syntheroid is a testosterone booster, it's used by weight lifters, and is supposed to boost metabolism and sex drive as well. I don't lift, but am curious as to what effect it might have if I take it and continue to ride 4 times a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rg1 View Post
    That is not testosterone booster. It is a synthetic form of levothyroxine. Used as a replacement for people with hypothyroidism. I would not use it if you dont need it can cause serious problems in high levels in the body.
    No that's synthroid, syntheroid is a testosterone booster. Wondering what kind of effect it might have is I introduce it into my diet and continue to ride 4 times a week, any insight into this would be great...

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    Personally I think 9 out off 10 of these supplements are just b.s. This one seems like one of those because its just mixing a bunch of other known supplements, none of which are proven testosterone boosters.

    Unless they can first show benefit through a simple double blind study, which would cost less than the marketing, I don't even give em a second look because they are a dime a dozen. If they publish a study with methods, controls, data, etc, I would read it and reconsider but would want to see an independent third party recreate that. Unfortunately you almost never get that level of detail, just couple of bar charts claiming boost without any detail on methods or controls.

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    Follow up: here's a study in testofen, one of the primary ingredients, in a peer reviewed journal (Phytotherapy Research):

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21312304/

    "Serum prolactin and testosterone levels remained within the reference range."

    It does say there are libido benefits, but as far athletic performance goes, doesn't sound like any direct testosterone impact.
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    Just get some steroids and be done with it.
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    Before anyone sucks their panties up their arse, I was kidding. But seriously, 99% of the "GNC" crap is just that, crap. There's really no substitute for hard work, even when using a product, legal or otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    Just get some steroids and be done with it.
    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster View Post
    Just get some steroids and be done with it.
    Get your levels tested by a doc that does hrt.....

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    Testosterone is essential for optimal health in both men and women. But you do NOT want to take more for improved athletic performance if your levels are OK.

    Agree that any OTC suppliment is probably useless. If you do need it, you do not want to take it orally -- very hard on the liver. You need injections or topical cream.

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    Get your levels tested by a doc that does hrt.....
    Exactly. If you are low, the next question is "why?". They will want to solve any underlying cause before giving you suppliments.

    Too much testosterone is worse than not enough. The stuff gets converted to estrogen. If you ARE low, and suppliment too much, your testicles will stop producing, and shrink.

    It wouldn't hurt to go to a Bioidenical Hormone Replacement Therapy doctor and get checked out, especially if you are getting on past middle-age. OTOH if you are not overweight and things are working OK in bed you are probably OK.

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    Hcg and anastrozle will take care of testicular atrophy and estrogen conversion. This is something you want to see a specialist for as most GP and internist are clueless about hrt. The acceptable range of T levels is also quite broad. Huge difference between low normal and high normal.... Also, I agree you need to find out why? If your body fat is high and you eat poorly like most people do and are highly stressed....

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    The acceptable range of T levels is also quite broad. Huge difference between low normal and high normal
    That typically is the case if you go to a urologist or GP. Your testosterone levels are low normal and your penis hasn't fallen off yet, so all is well as far as they are concerned. They give you a prescription for Viagra and send you on your way.

    bHRT doctors on the other hand tend to look at symptoms more than numbers and are more likely to do something to help in "borderline" cases than a urologist or GP.

    If your body fat is high and you eat poorly like most people do and are highly stressed....
    It's a catch-22. Your testosterone is low because your are fat and lazy and you are fat and lazy because youre testosterone is low.

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    keep it in your pants

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisF View Post
    It's a catch-22. Your testosterone is low because your are fat and lazy and you are fat and lazy because youre testosterone is low.
    There is no causal relationship, nor is there a catch 22.

    People eat poorly.

    People are fat.

    People are lazy.

    People have low testosterone.

    They are independent events. The person chooses all, aside from low testosterone.

    Never give people, or yourself, an excuse.

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    There are lots of natural test boosters on the market. I have been experimenting with them for the last year or so. My opinion is that some of them work, and there is medical data to on some ingredients to back up the claims.

    For example Stinging Nettle contains a lignan, (-)-3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran, that binds to steroid hormone binding globulin. the result is that SHBG can't bind testosterone so your free test goes up.
    Lignans interfering with 5 alpha-dihydrotestoster... [J Nat Prod. 1998] - PubMed - NCBI

    D- Aspartic Acid, taken 3 grams a day increases testosterone and leutenizing hormone
    The role and molecular mechanism of D... [Reprod Biol Endocrinol. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI

    Fadogia agrestis increases testosterone
    Aphrodisiac potentials of the aqueous extract... [Asian J Androl. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI

    Bulbine Natalensis
    Anabolic and androgenic activities of Bulbine nat... [Pharm Biol. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI

    This syntheroid product contains Euyocomia longfolia (Long Jack or Tongkat Ali), which has been shown to boost test as well.

    Standardised water-soluble extract of Eurycoma lo... [Andrologia. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

    It also contains a bunch of other stuff which probably doesn't work, and tribulus terresteris, which is kind of controversial as to its effectiveness.

    Anyway, this Syntheroid product might do something but there are actually some killer test boosters on the market that would probably blow it away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    There are lots of natural test boosters on the market. I have been experimenting with them for the last year or so . ....................

    How are you doing this? Do you get your T tested at some point and then start taking one of the supplements and retest? Then lay off for a while, test again, switch supplement, retest etc etc etc. How is this possible in only one year?

    Seems hard to do this with only one subject.

    If your T is low, or you merely want it boosted, why not just start shooting up T? Seems far easier and less "error" prone to me.
    Nobody cares...........

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    If you have experienced low testosterone, the symptoms of it being low and the results of treating it are quite obvious.

    I agree the testing cycle would have to be quite long. It took about a month of injections before I noticed any difference. It would seem that suppliments that cause increased natural testosterone production would take even longer.

    Short-term exposure to additional testosterone has no effect. A woman can receive a blood transfusion from a man (whose blood has 30x more testosterone) and she won't notice a difference.

    OTOH, there are other chemicals besides testosterone that affect sexual and athletic performance, so the suppliments may be working but not actually increasing testosterone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chas_martel View Post
    How are you doing this? Do you get your T tested at some point and then start taking one of the supplements and retest? Then lay off for a while, test again, switch supplement, retest etc etc etc. How is this possible in only one year?

    Seems hard to do this with only one subject.

    If your T is low, or you merely want it boosted, why not just start shooting up T? Seems far easier and less "error" prone to me.
    I wish I could do something like that but I don't have the time.
    When I say I',m experimenting, it means I'm taking these supplements and evaluating their effects subjectively. I have had one T test while taking supps and my T was about 25% higher than my previous 2 tests, and free T about 100% higher.

    As for shooting up T, it doesn't make sense for me. I don't want to shut myself down, and I don't want to cycle up and down or risk any of the cardiovascular, or other, side effects. I just want to feel better, and have a little boost. I think that some of the natural supps give me that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisF View Post
    OTOH, there are other chemicals besides testosterone that affect sexual and athletic performance, so the suppliments may be working but not actually increasing testosterone.

    Agreed. Which is part of the problem of trying to evaluate supplements subjectively. Some substances have been shown to boost libido, but not T. Libido boost could trick you into thinking your T is higher.
    But the libido boost is nice anyway

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    Well, that's great that the testosterone really went up as a result of taking something other than testosterone. Your testicles are fine, just some nutritional defiencies apparently. I know some people swear by fish oil, which makes sense since they're finding out vitimin D deficincies are commonplace.

    Just want to add that if everything else is OK and your testosterone is still low, supplimenting testosterone in sensible quantities (very little!) is not risky. It lowers your risk of heart attack, and your testicles won't shut down or shrink. No negative side effects at all.

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    my cousin is on a t supplement from his doctor. hes saying that the effects are really good.

    mood, energy and life in general has improved. im thinking i might get tested. i tried sam-e as a pick me up, i noticed a marked improvement, but it gave me gi problems, so i stopped it.

    as for taking drugs to improved weekend riding, why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DennisF View Post
    Just want to add that if everything else is OK and your testosterone is still low, supplimenting testosterone in sensible quantities (very little!) is not risky. It lowers your risk of heart attack, and your testicles won't shut down or shrink. No negative side effects at all.
    I don't know that this is true. Guys with low T end up on T injections or androgel and they are shut down and must continue with the exogenous T for life.
    If your T is low and you supplement with exogenous T, the obvious result is that your body makes less.

    If you have any references that discuss supplemental T that does not suppress your natural production, I'd like to read more about it.

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    My understanding is that estrogen is the primay thing that regulates T production. Go look at the chart that shows the cycle where cholesterol converts to andros and corticols to understand why the body does this. ps I am certain this is a very simplistic view of thing and if your balls arn't working why do you care if they get shutdown? ps2 there is one reason, don't know how important it is tho.........ps3 You can always also take HGC
    Nobody cares...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by chas_martel View Post
    My understanding is that estrogen is the primay thing that regulates T production. Go look at the chart that shows the cycle where cholesterol converts to andros and corticols to understand why the body does this. ps I am certain this is a very simplistic view of thing and if your balls arn't working why do you care if they get shutdown? ps2 there is one reason, don't know how important it is tho.........ps3 You can always also take HGC
    I don't get your point about estrogen. It is also a steroid hormone that shares common metabolic pathways with testosterone, but it is regulated by your body separately. People who inject T or AAS throw off their bodys natural balance and can end up with estrogen problems, but again I don't see where this fits in with this conversation.

    In my case, my balls are working and I don't not have clinical low T. I just want a boost. The normal T level on a standard test is a range from about 300 to 1000, but obviously you will feel differently at 300 than at 1000, even though both will be considered "normal".

    Hcg does stimulate T production, but I have not heard of it as a stand alone long term solution for raising T. Men on HRT sometimes take Hcg to prevent testicular shrinkage, but I think its like 3 injections per week.

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