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    I used to love power aid for I am a roofer and drink lots of water I would drink a 32oz powerade on lunch and after work. My gf went to to the store the other day and got me my normal stock of powerade. Let me tell you it feels like I'm gonna burp out my chest my boss tells me its heartburn I've never had it in my life. I look at the bottle and it says inhanced flaver. F u powerade I've felt horrible for days. You lost a customer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiterider View Post
    I used to love power aid for I am a roofer and drink lots of water I would drink a 32oz powerade on lunch and after work. My gf went to to the store the other day and got me my normal stock of powerade. Let me tell you it feels like I'm gonna burp out my chest my boss tells me its heartburn I've never had it in my life. I look at the bottle and it says inhanced flaver. F u powerade I've felt horrible for days. You lost a customer!
    I'd keep an eye on that..don't sell yourself 100 percent on the powerade causing the heartburn, maybe just exposing an existing issue..been there..ya know the rest..
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiterider View Post
    I used to love power aid for I am a roofer and drink lots of water I would drink a 32oz powerade on lunch and after work. My gf went to to the store the other day and got me my normal stock of powerade. Let me tell you it feels like I'm gonna burp out my chest my boss tells me its heartburn I've never had it in my life. I look at the bottle and it says inhanced flaver. F u powerade I've felt horrible for days. You lost a customer!
    Powerade has no electrolytes. Simply sugar water. Better off drinking something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1niceride View Post
    I'd keep an eye on that..don't sell yourself 100 percent on the powerade causing the heartburn, maybe just exposing an existing issue..been there..ya know the rest..
    Yeah, a bottle of Powerade doesn't explain those symptoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Powerade has no electrolytes. Simply sugar water. Better off drinking something else.
    Not even sugar, powerade uses high fructose corn syrup. It's almost literally like drinking soda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman15951 View Post
    Not even sugar, powerade uses high fructose corn syrup. It's almost literally like drinking soda.

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    Fructose is a sugar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Fructose is a sugar.
    Yes, it's a fruit sugar. But high fructose corn syrup is a synthetic substance that many beverage companies use cause it's cheaper than real sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman15951 View Post
    Yes, it's a fruit sugar. But high fructose corn syrup is a synthetic substance that many beverage companies use cause it's cheaper than real sugar.

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    Very interesting article to read about Powerade, sodas, Vitamin Water, etc, basically anything you buy in a convenience store:

    Coca Cola's Low Calorie Beverages Will Kill You Before They Solve Obesity - Food Babe

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    Make your own. Whatever liquid and add salt substitute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3blackbikes View Post
    Very interesting article to read about Powerade, sodas, Vitamin Water, etc, basically anything you buy in a convenient store
    Horrible article. Opinion masquerading as quasi-science.

    Not saying that I do not agree with the general concept that too much sugar is not good.

    However, as a food scientist (married to a clinical nutrition manager - hospital dietician), the article is full of misleading, exaggerated, and unsupported statements. Fear mongering is not persuasive.

    BTW Powerade has the following electrolyte sources: Salt, Magnesium chloride, calcium chloride, and mono-potassium phosphate. Note that the last three of these are chemically called salts. So the first salt is likely the colloquial term for table salt - otherwise known as sodium chloride.

    I do not like Powerade. Just trying to add facts to nutrition discussions.

    Personally, I prefer full strength Coke or milk with added sugar (table sugar otherwise known as sucrose) when I need a sugar rush after a ride.
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    I run 1/2 grape juice, non alcohol type, and 1/2 water.
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    i get heartburn all the time...Tums has become my friend

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    Too many tums can give you kidney stones guy be aware.

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    I just picked up some Nuun today on advice from this forum. Will see how I do tomorrow.
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    Whiterider, it's easy to jump to conclusions about Powerade, but think about what else you did differently that day. Was it unusually hot? Did you drink your normal amount? Was your diet significantly different from other days? There are a lot of different things that can lead to GI distress (or heartburn).

    I'm not a fan of drinks that use fructose (which includes high fructose corn syrup) as their primary sugar/carbohydrate because of fructose malabsorption. Fructose, as someone mentioned above, is a type of sugar naturally found in fruits, but people with fructose malabsorption have troubles absorbing it properly. As a result, the fructose that is not absorbed can be fermented by the bacteria in your intestines, causing abdominal pain, gas, bloating, diarrhea or constipation. This can also happen when you try to take in simply too much fructose.

    I can't tell you how many folks I've heard from who have said that they were downing watermelon and dates and raisins for calories and ended up with major stomach issues. Once they eliminated those, they were fine.
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    Try PowerAde "Zero", less than 1 g carbs, zero calories, no "fructose"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bwargula View Post
    Try PowerAde "Zero", less than 1 g carbs, zero calories, no "fructose"!
    Powerade Zero uses an artificial sweetener called Sucralose, which basically is made by chlorinating sucrose (regular sugar). Splenda is a sucralose based sweetener, and there are a lot of studies that suggest harmful long term effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman15951 View Post
    Powerade Zero uses an artificial sweetener called Sucralose, which basically is made by chlorinating sucrose (regular sugar). Splenda is a sucralose based sweetener, and there are a lot of studies that suggest harmful long term effects.

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    I am sure you can find a lot of studies that suggest "no" harmful long term effects as well. Just like some swear by chiropractors while others brush it off as voodoo. Snippet from an article I read...

    "Is sucralose safe?
    Yes. Sucralose has an excellent safety profile. More than 100 safety studies, representing over 20 years of research, have shown sucralose to be safe.

    Scientists have conducted many studies on sucralose to determine whether it had any effects on a number of different health conditions, including growth and development, risk of cancer, chemical effects on the body (or toxicology), developmental abnormalities such as birth defects, and effects on the nervous system.

    Sucralose has been studied extensively and has been found to be safe by experts and researchers around the world. Government agencies worldwide, including the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), have also reviewed the science on sucralose and found it to be safe for human consumption.

    Experts from a wide range of scientific backgrounds have reviewed these studies and concluded that there are no harmful effects from consuming sucralose, even in people consuming the highest amounts.

    Based on its strong safety background, experts, researchers, and government bodies agree that people can consume a variety of foods and beverages sweetened with sucralose on a daily basis without concern".

    FWIW, I'm not ready to dismiss sucralose as a no-no just yet, but everyone is entitled to make their own decisions based on whatever they believe from the info they find.
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    X is bad and will kill us all science, always makes me think of dihydrogen monoxide.

    What is Dihydrogen Monoxide?

    Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid.

    Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

    Learn more about this killer here


    BTW for non-chemistry types DHMO is water - H2O
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    Aren't cancer rates sky high? There are many things contributing to that, some genetic and some environmental. Very hard if not impossible to parse through it, but I'm sure all the exotic chemicals we're exposed to collectively have something to do with it.

    Science said that kennel cough vaccine is a good thing to give your dog. It probably is, considering the alternatives (just like the benefits of vaccines for people versus polio outbreaks). So the vet gave our dog the little puff up the nose. Then at age 9 she developed cancer in the nose and died. Apparently the carrier aluminum granules cause cancer.

    Science does occasionally overlook some things, especially with wide scale epidemiology studies. Generally science is really good at what it does. But of course, vested interests can put out all the supporting evidence and studies they can ... afford.

    I personally can't stand the taste of sucralose, I can pick it out in an instant.

    The risk of negative effects from sucralose is probably very low, but it's one less thing I want in my body.
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    And its unhealthy

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    Skip the crap, drink water and eat a banana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiterider View Post
    I used to love power aid for I am a roofer and drink lots of water I would drink a 32oz powerade on lunch and after work. My gf went to to the store the other day and got me my normal stock of powerade. Let me tell you it feels like I'm gonna burp out my chest my boss tells me its heartburn I've never had it in my life. I look at the bottle and it says inhanced flaver. F u powerade I've felt horrible for days. You lost a customer!
    Don't drink that S. Powerade, Gatorade, whatever, its just a bunch of sugar water with neon colors.

    Try coconut water instead. Its a natural product, with just as much, if not more electrolytes.

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    try Brawndo: The Thirst Mutilator

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    Ultimately, where possible, make the more natural decision. Just my humble opinion. I used to be a heavy sucralose user. No more. Feel much better. Not science.

    As far as "fructose" inference; just a sugar, YES, but that is naturally occuring. High Fructose corn syrup is not a "naturally" occurring sugar. Read about the process. It has a different glycemic index, and god knows what else. Leave to our race to develop a cheap synthetic sugar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everything motorcycl View Post
    Ultimately, where possible, make the more natural decision.
    What is natural?
    Seriously, how much processing can be done to product to still be "natural"?

    - Sugar in the sugar cane, once it is out of the cane it is no longer natural
    - Water is not sweet, once you add sweetener it is not natural
    - Water out of a reservoir - no decontamination, just bugs, feces, etc.
    - Raw meat bitten right off the cow's back
    - Cyanide from cherry pits

    "Natural" does not equal good for you.
    Attention to what you put in your pie hole may be.

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    screw powerade

    For me, PowerAde, or any other common hydration drink, is refreshing and beneficial option on any ride over about 90 minutes in hot, sunny, sweaty weather. And PowerAde definitely has electrolytes.... more sodium than regular Gatorade, for instance. But I try to stay away from it and the calories on shorter rides. In my opinion, there are also better options than sucrose-based drinks. I also have gastrointernal issues on a lot of high fructose sugars ( ie regular GatorAde or PowerAde) during intense, extended exercise such as six hour triathlons, so something like GatorAde Endurance formula works better. On long rides I take a CamelBack of icy pure water, but will also freeze a bottle of Skratch Labs or coconut water. Dr Lim's extensive practical research on endurance nutrition and hydration that resulted in the Skratch formula makes a lot sense to me, and works for me in Arizona hot Summer riding.


    YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiterider View Post
    Too many tums can give you kidney stones guy be aware.
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    lol crit. I would assume you wouldn't eat bugs (which IS ok) FECES raw meat. If you can't decipher what is inferred by "natural" there are lots of ways to get better informed.

    If you prefer to eat chemicals that you feel safe, god bless America lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by crit_boy View Post
    What is natural?
    Seriously, how much processing can be done to product to still be "natural"?

    - Sugar in the sugar cane, once it is out of the cane it is no longer natural
    - Water is not sweet, once you add sweetener it is not natural
    - Water out of a reservoir - no decontamination, just bugs, feces, etc.
    - Raw meat bitten right off the cow's back
    - Cyanide from cherry pits

    "Natural" does not equal good for you.
    Attention to what you put in your pie hole may be.

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    FDC Red. Enjoy! Bromelain. Enjoy! Many ingredients here in U.S. Banned in most countries! Cheers!

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    Everyday doctors and scientist come out with something thats bad for us, one day its good for us the next day its bad for us.

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    @socal, yeah, now fishoils is the latest target. I used the word "natural" but maybe should have used "healthy" or "commonsense" for tards that cant infer what is meant by a good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by everything motorcycl View Post
    lol crit. I would assume you wouldn't eat bugs (which IS ok) FECES raw meat. If you can't decipher what is inferred by "natural" there are lots of ways to get better informed.

    If you prefer to eat chemicals that you feel safe, god bless America lol.
    I think you can define "natural" to mean not significantly chemically changed from the plant or animal it came from, other than cooking it.
    All I am saying is give pizza chants

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    Or just use common sense...which isn't always so common.

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    I think you can define "natural" to mean not significantly chemically changed from the plant or animal it came from, other than cooking it.
    What is significantly chemically changed?
    - Enzymatic process: Cheese, beer - both not cooked and both significantly different from milk and grain.
    - Supercritical fluid extraction: Non-heat separation process. Removing caffeine from coffee beans. Is the caffeine extract natural? Is the decaffeinated coffee bean natural?
    - "natural" flavors: are extracted from various plants. These are accepted as natural, but how is something separated from its origin plant really be natural?
    - Orange juice: Volatiles are stripped prior to pasteurization, then added back (or sold at a premium price) after heat treatment. Is this natural?

    Although one may think the term, "natural," makes common sense, there are everyday products demonstrating short comings of common knowledge.

    This is all in the interest of fun. I don't think we need to resort to implications of ignorance that one may infer as a personal attack.

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    For those that want to learn about HFCS (high fructose corn sweetener) these (edited) links;
    1) dispel a current marketing campaign.
    2) explains how it came to be.
    3) why it's bad for our bodies.

    The Truth About High Fructose Corn Syrup - The Harmful Effects - YouTube

    High Fructose Corn Syrup (Killer Sweetener) - YouTube

    Dr. Mark's Minute - High Fructose Corn Syrup is POISON Reason #1 - YouTube

    For those lacking hours to read, and digest the facts; here's a quick synopsis of lipo-genisis, and why HFCS is evil.
    All consumption is based on 120 calories, and the # shown represents the calories undigested that
    remain inside your body to cause cumulative damage.

    Ethanol (alcohol) 16 / Excessive consumption, cumulative effects often causes liver damage (cirrhosis).
    HFCS (high fructose corn sweetener) 24 / Unable to fully process, accumulates in the liver to cause NAFLD -
    (non-alcohol fatty liver damage) and is a primary concern of obesity, diabetes, and insulin resistance.

    Both sucrose, and glucose are fully digestable, and in limited amounts does not cause cumulative damage.
    Numerous studies refute the FDA's claim, and processed food mfg's advertising that all sugar IS sugar.
    Yes, folks (IMHO) - HFCS is truly evil.
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    LMAO. But yeah, I don't drink orange juice UNLESS I squeeze it! Read ALL ingredients. Cheese is a natural process to make BUT look into: RENNET. Leave it to us F Up humans to take ...there's that word again NATURAL cheese...add CALF GUTS to it!!! WTF!

    If you eat cheese you aren't VEGAN likely. Because someone decided to add RENNET to it! You can buy cheese without (very expensive) or non animal rennet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crit_boy View Post
    What is significantly chemically changed?
    - Enzymatic process: Cheese, beer - both not cooked and both significantly different from milk and grain.
    - Supercritical fluid extraction: Non-heat separation process. Removing caffeine from coffee beans. Is the caffeine extract natural? Is the decaffeinated coffee bean natural?
    - "natural" flavors: are extracted from various plants. These are accepted as natural, but how is something separated from its origin plant really be natural?
    - Orange juice: Volatiles are stripped prior to pasteurization, then added back (or sold at a premium price) after heat treatment. Is this natural?
    - Enzymatic process: those chemical changes are made by micro-organisms, i.e. mini animals.
    - removing caffeine etc.: you haven't chemically altered the food by removing caffeine, you've just taken some chemicals out.
    - natural flavours / volatiles: they were still produced by plants, even if they are removed.

    The point is that we should try to eat food whose organic chemistry has been altered as little as possible by non-biological processes. If it's altered by biochemical processes from living beings then that is what our bodies (enzymes) have evolved to deal with. Shuffling the different chemicals around in processing should be fine because we aren't altering them.
    All I am saying is give pizza chants

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    Quote Originally Posted by everything motorcycl View Post
    If you eat cheese you aren't VEGAN likely. Because someone decided to add RENNET to it!
    And also due to it being made from milk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful Tomcat View Post
    And also due to it being made from milk.
    But milk is a vegetable! It goes straight from the grass in the cow's mouth to its udder.
    All I am saying is give pizza chants

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    Then how come it's not green?

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    This does not support this:
    For those lacking 1 hour to digest the facts; here's a quick synopsis, and why HFCS is evil.
    Or have any discussion of this (I don't understand what your calculations are or what they are attempting to demonstrate):
    All are based on 120 calories, and the # represents the amount that remain undigested.

    Ethanol (alcohol) 16 / Excessive consumption, cumulative effects may cause liver damage (cirrhosis).
    HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) 24 / Inability to fully process, accumulates in the liver to cause NAFLD -
    (non-alcohol fatty liver damage) and is a primary concern of obesity, diabetes, and insulin resistance.

    Both sucrose, and fructose are fully digested. Does not cause cumulative damage, and this study
    refutes the FDA's claim, and food mfg's advertising that all sugar IS sugar. Yes, folks HFCS is truly evil.
    In fact, pages 21 and 28 say you can use HFCS and sugar interchangeably. The power point says too much sweetened beverages (page 39), eating more across the board (page 28), and other factors (page 50) are causing obesity.

    There is no support for a general statement that HFCS is evil or HFCS is the sole cause of obesity.

    Where is your HFCS is evil evidence?


    See, this is fun. We are going out, researching and reading to make our own informed decisions - not following the cattle drive of food marketing.

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    Re: screw powerade

    ^ Did I link to the wrong study? Years ago, I attended a seminar that gave the synopsis provided. Never stated that HFCS was the sole source of obesity, know that any diet high in sugars is bad, and apologize if the link's incorrect.

    [edit] updated original link.

    Always better to read than trust our media.


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    Some are just being argumentative for argument sake. No need to try to unconvince you. Please HFCS away. Coca Cola on sale at your local grocery. There are some safe reports on thalidimide as well

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    New SUPERFOOD...Loaded with POTASIUM, Complex Carbs, Fiber, traces of protein Vit C, some simple carbs...but very expensive:

    Calories 119

    % Daily Values*
    Total Fat 0.17g 0%
    Saturated Fat 0.044g 0%
    Polyunsaturated Fat 0.071g
    Monounsaturated Fat 0.003g
    Cholesterol 0mg 0%
    Sodium 10mg 0%
    Potassium 692mg
    Total Carbohydrate 26.71g 9%
    Dietary Fiber 4.1g 16%
    Sugars 1.96g
    Protein 2.86g

    Vitamin A 0% Vitamin C 56%
    Calcium 2% Iron 5%

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    Quote Originally Posted by everything motorcycl View Post
    Some are just being argumentative for argument sake. No need to try to unconvince you.
    Sort of. Really just trying to make informed decisions based on facts.

    Your choice to avoid HFCS is fine. Your choice does not render another person's choice wrong.

    New SUPERFOOD...
    White potato? here

    Someone just invent white potatoes?

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    nope, but I did just patented it!

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    If you did, it was out of class 424 - not 426. They let everything out these days.

    Good luck with trying to enforce that patent. I found your composition in a single search in about 5 seconds.

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    Damn, can't get one by Crit lol. I love potatoes in my diet...great superfood for extreme cycling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishful Tomcat View Post
    Skip the crap, drink water and eat a banana.
    LOL! Keeping it real!!

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    Brawndo has electrolytes, it's what plants crave.
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    Wow, learned a lot from this thread. I've always been a Gatorade/Powerade drinker after strenuous physical activity like running or biking. I recently picked up some GU Energy gels with electrolytes in them and I'm going to be converting to Coconut water for post ride hydration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Powerade has no electrolytes. Simply sugar water. Better off drinking something else.
    Powerade has electrolytes. Sodium, potassium and magnesium. It is loaded with carbs but if you opt for Powerase 0. No carbs !!

    POWERADE ZERO™ is the great-tasting electrolyte-enhanced sports drink formulated with vitamins B3, B6 and B12 to help the body metabolize energy from food.
    POWERADE ZERO™ MIXED BERRY
    FLAVORED + OTHER NATURAL FLAVORS
    Nutrition Facts
    12 fl oz (360 mL)
    Servings Per Container about 2.5
    Calories
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    Amount/Serving %DV* Amount/Serving %DV*
    Total Fat 0g 0% Total Carb less than 1g 0%
    Sodium 150mg 6% Protein 0g
    Potassium 35mg 1%
    Niacin 15% Vitamin B6 15%
    Vitamin B12 15% Magnesium †
    † Not a significant source of calories from fat, saturated fat, trans fat, cholesterol, dietary fiber, sugars, vitamin A, vitamin C, calcium and iron.
    *Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
    WATER, LESS THAN 1% OF: CITRIC ACID, SALT AND MONO-POTASSIUM PHOSPHATE AND MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE AND CALCIUM CHLORIDE (ELECTROLYTE SOURCES), NATURAL FLAVORS, SUCRALOSE, ACESULFAME POTASSIUM, VITAMIN B3 (NIACINAMIDE), VITAMIN B6 (PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE), VITAMIN B12, BLUE 1, ASCORBIC ACID (TO PROTECT TAST

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    I was told once long ago, take a pinch of NATURAL sea salt and drop it in your water. Boom, done. This is what I normally do.

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    I mix a ratio of Lo-Salt and table salt into a 24-oz. bottle to approximate the sodium and potassium content of a Nuun tablet. This works out to about 1 pinch of Lo-Salt and 3 pinches of table salt. Consuming a bottle over 1-2 hours, plus plain water from a hydration pack, seems to work well for me depending on how much I'm sweating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryantrek View Post
    I was told once long ago, take a pinch of NATURAL sea salt and drop it in your water. Boom, done. This is what I normally do.
    And for normal recreational cycling (not TdF or XCO World cup racing), you don't need even that. We get way too much salt during day with normal food, so no need to put some extra in water.
    Back in my racing days, I have been using all sorts of these things, but those were different times. I have been out on training for 8 or 9 hours a day, and with training like that you can't just eat spaghetti and drink water. But nowadays, when I do sport for fun (I still do some 15-20h/week), I get more then enough of everything with normal food. So there's really no need to drink water with added sugar (powerade, gatorade, isostar...).
    In hot days, when I drink few liters of water during day anyway, I normally add bit of lemon, orange or something similar in my bike bottles filled with water, just to get some taste. And that's all you really need
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    Quote Originally Posted by primoz View Post
    And for normal recreational cycling (not TdF or XCO World cup racing), you don't need even that. We get way too much salt during day with normal food, so no need to put some extra in water.
    Back in my racing days, I have been using all sorts of these things, but those were different times. I have been out on training for 8 or 9 hours a day, and with training like that you can't just eat spaghetti and drink water. But nowadays, when I do sport for fun (I still do some 15-20h/week), I get more then enough of everything with normal food. So there's really no need to drink water with added sugar (powerade, gatorade, isostar...).
    In hot days, when I drink few liters of water during day anyway, I normally add bit of lemon, orange or something similar in my bike bottles filled with water, just to get some taste. And that's all you really need
    Totally Agree!!! I am an avid fitness 'guy' and have only recently begun my 'endurance' endeavors. I find supplements, bars, powders etc very convenient, but the majority of my nutrition is in more whole foods. Long rides for me however are only about 3 to 4 hours. However, MTB 3 to 4 hours is almost like double. Most foods nowaday have so much sodium anyway.

    Rich potassium foods like potatoes, bananas, strawberries are so much better for you then most of these 'artificial' made foods.

    Lower 'K' requires higher 'Na' and converse is true as well, so I'd rather have richer K foods then Na foods!

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    Anyone that thinks neon colored, sugar water is good for them or going to improve there on the bike performance is crazy! All natural is ALWAYS best period. Just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullcoilmojo View Post
    Anyone that thinks neon colored, sugar water is good for them or going to improve there on the bike performance is crazy! All natural is ALWAYS best period. Just my .02
    Arsenic is a natural substance, too.
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    Lmao! You must work for the FDA lol 😀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullcoilmojo View Post
    Lmao! You must work for the FDA lol 😀
    Just pointing out that "natural" does not equal "healthy" as many seem to think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Just pointing out that "natural" does not equal "healthy" as many seem to think.
    True. There is official definition of "natural". You can make some artificial chemical out of crude oil in a laboratory and label it natural. All perfectly legal.
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    I think most understand what we mean when we say NATURAL. No, not arsenic. Artificial colors, flavors etc, def "artificial". Water=Natural in most people's mind. Add a banana, and you have a great fructose glucose hi "K" superfood. As most have pointed out, so much sodium in today's food that mostly likely very little to ANY salt not necessary to add in most cases.

    I usually do a quick stop and add a banana and/or a squirt of RAW Honey. Raw honey is very fast sugar source. Banana is good medium chain sugar source...with a little bit of fiber to 'steady' glucose uptake.

    The more ripe, the more digestible the sugars are for bananas...if you ever see these smoothie places, their bananas are very ripe (more sugar content).

    Enjoy your ride (:

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    Quote Originally Posted by everything motorcycl View Post
    I think most understand what we mean when we say NATURAL. No, not arsenic. Artificial colors, flavors etc, def "artificial". Water=Natural in most people's mind. Add a banana, and you have a great fructose glucose hi "K" superfood. As most have pointed out, so much sodium in today's food that mostly likely very little to ANY salt not necessary to add in most cases.

    I usually do a quick stop and add a banana and/or a squirt of RAW Honey. Raw honey is very fast sugar source. Banana is good medium chain sugar source...with a little bit of fiber to 'steady' glucose uptake.

    The more ripe, the more digestible the sugars are for bananas...if you ever see these smoothie places, their bananas are very ripe (more sugar content).

    Enjoy your ride (:
    There is water with naturally occurring arsenic.
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    Yes, and there are always people who try to show us how smart they are...we just tend to ignore that and understand what most of us are talking about.

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    The goal with any fueling strategy is to 1) stave off the depletion of your glycogen stores; 2) keep your electrolytes in check; and 3) remain hydrated. You can fulfill this through a number of different ways and it really boils down to what works for you.

    For shorter rides, as a lot of folks have pointed out, you can just ride with water. You have enough in your glycogen stores to maintain your energy levels, and your body will do a pretty good job at keeping your electrolytes in check. But, the longer you go the more your digestive system is taxed - meaning that your fueling strategy can really make a difference in how you feel.

    Some riders, like me, prefer liquid calories (and specifically glucose/dextrose based drinks) because they are already in the form of energy that your body uses (glucose) and tend to be easier on the digestive system (don't spend any time in the stomach). Others prefer water with electrolytes and then supplementing with "real food" (which for me by hour 5 makes me experience heartburn). The reality is that you need to experiment and see what works for you, but here are some general guidelines:

    *Although you are burning 600+ calories/hour, you can physiologically only process between 200-300 calories/hour. So, don't consume too many calories otherwise you'll overload the gut

    *Your body does a pretty good job at regulating your electrolytes, but you'll want to take some additional electrolytes. Most folks think of electrolytes as a means to prevent cramping, but the real reason why you want to take some sodium with your drink is because it will activate the "glucose transport mechanism" which results in higher water absorption rates.

    *Finally, you need water. This varies from person to person. What most people don't realize (especially when it's cold outside) is that you need water to digest calories. If you aren't drinking enough, your body will literally suck water from your system and send it to your digestive track to help digest your calories - and this can lead to dehydration.

    So, for shorter rides just drink water and replenish your glycogen stores and electrolytes through your meals/snacks. For longer rides (2+ hours) you'll probably need to consume calories, electrolytes, and water, but how you do that comes down to personal preference.
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    Well said Jenn. There are a whole host of other vits and minerals to pay attention to as well. B Complex's Mg Ca etc.

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    Couldn't agree more with the water and a banana idea.

    Couldn't disagree more with the coke or milk with sugar post ride idea.

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    Make your own electrolyte drink

    Gatorade Recipe : Final recipe

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    Quote Originally Posted by jg1990 View Post
    Make your own electrolyte drink

    Gatorade Recipe : Final recipe
    Or eat a banana and drink some water (:

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    Depends where and how you ride. Bananas are about as non-stable a food as you can get. If I'm out in the hot or cold back country I'm not going to have bananas with me because they turn to mush

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    Quote Originally Posted by crit_boy View Post
    Horrible article. Opinion masquerading as quasi-science.

    Not saying that I do not agree with the general concept that too much sugar is not good.

    However, as a food scientist (married to a clinical nutrition manager - hospital dietician), the article is full of misleading, exaggerated, and unsupported statements. Fear mongering is not persuasive.

    BTW Powerade has the following electrolyte sources: Salt, Magnesium chloride, calcium chloride, and mono-potassium phosphate. Note that the last three of these are chemically called salts. So the first salt is likely the colloquial term for table salt - otherwise known as sodium chloride.

    I do not like Powerade. Just trying to add facts to nutrition discussions.

    (Personally, I prefer full strength Coke or milk with added sugar (table sugar otherwise known as sucrose) when I need a sugar rush after a ride).
    I have found a bottle of chocolate milk after a ride to be pretty satisfying.

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    I found that Nuun electrolyte tablets do the trick for me, I never get cramps while drinking that.

    I'm not going to bring a banana with me. I eat Clif bars and those various Honey Stinger things (funny how they used to have a picture of Lance Armstrong until recently), and my big thing is 100% pure organic peanut butter, dipped with fresh dates... pure energy and super satisfying and tasty.
    All I am saying is give pizza chants

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    Just curious why people use the light salt instead of regular salt.

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    I read somewhere that you want more than sodium.
    All I am saying is give pizza chants

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    the best advice i found ever regarding nutritional drink can be found in this post
    Homemade Sports Drink - Anti-Cramp Elixir

    It's as healthy as you will make it, cheap and doesn't put money into some corporation's pocket.

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