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    Fish Oil

    What's the general consensus about fish oil supplements? Good, bad, gimmick? I did a quick search but couldn't find any posts on it.

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    A good quality fish oil is probably good for you. I'm 60 and taking some. Lower quality fish oils could, I suppose, concentrate environmental contaminants (such as mercury).

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    Like any supplement you'll get both sides responding. Personally since I don't eat fish every week I take them but as with everything quality can be an issue.
    Personally I think having more oil in my system helps (brain function, joints heart health)and there is some evidence it can help with cholesterol levels

    Krill oil and oils with mixes of fish (not only salmon but anchovy, sardines)& borage or flaxseed oil are good extra ingredients.

    Dose is important many don;y have enough and you may get some fishy burps so take it before a meal.

    Here is a link to the Great Oz but loads more all over the web

    Daily Dose: Omega-3 | The Dr. Oz Show

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kshawn View Post
    What's the general consensus about fish oil supplements? Good, bad, gimmick? I did a quick search but couldn't find any posts on it.
    Not sure about consensus and furthermore I sincerely hope we don't expect science to be based on consensus else we'd still believe in the flat earth consensus (Was there ever a scientific consensus that the world is flat and the center of the solar system? - Yahoo! Answers).

    That being said, I do take fish oil based on the scientific evidence and I do take a lot to help mitigate my heart disease. Furthermore I believe everyone stands to benefit from it in whatever form though I do have my opinion on that too. (I also mountain bike for the same reason).

    If you do want to look at and/or listen to some of that evidence for FO look through some of this: Credible Evidence: fish oil. Some convincing evidence that it is NOT gimmickry rather a well established supplement even by the medical community.
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    Re: Fish Oil

    Krill, borage, primrose, flexseed oil are my favorite.
    Check Dr. Mercola, great info about supplements.
    Www.mercola.com

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    Yeah but Mercola makes money on what he pushes. Doesn't make it untrue but a bit suspicious.

    And all of those sources are low in the key EPA/DHA components in FO, both of which have significant health benefits.

    I'll stick with my liquid FO for desired effect.
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    Re: Fish Oil

    Well, he pushes what he believes is the best choice.
    He also explains why he thinks which product is superior.
    When a new science comes around, he presents it and adjusts his offerings accordingly.

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    Sounds like a salesman to me.

    OP, personally, I look for the EPA/DHA as an anti-inflammatory. Maybe a conversation with a nutritionist on this and other supplements would be to your benefit?

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    Re: Fish Oil

    Of course he is a salesman. There is nothing wrong with that. But he is also a doctor with a vast knowledge in supplements and healthy lifestyle. He offers products he believes in and backs it up with science and research.
    The website is very informative.
    I do not get all my supplements from him, I usually buy them locally.
    I have spent a lot of time researching and looking for the most beneficial supplements for my problem with inflammation and found his website a great source of information.
    He has also sponsored a CA proposition to label GMO products with over a 1 million $, which was unfortunately defeated by huge Monsanto lobby, which is the greatest GMO producer.


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    I take it, seems like it makes my joints feel better.

    Fish oil twice a day along with Hammer Nutrition Tissue Rejuvinator makes me feel like I've got new knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmodavis View Post
    Not sure about consensus and furthermore I sincerely hope we don't expect science to be based on consensus else we'd still believe in the flat earth consensus (Was there ever a scientific consensus that the world is flat and the center of the solar system? - Yahoo! Answers).
    I think you know what I meant.

    Personally I do take it, but I didn't see the harm in asking what y'all think. I did in fact talk to a doctor about it, she was in support of it as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teleken View Post
    Like any supplement you'll get both sides responding. Personally since I don't eat fish every week I take them but as with everything quality can be an issue.
    Personally I think having more oil in my system helps (brain function, joints heart health)and there is some evidence it can help with cholesterol levels

    Krill oil and oils with mixes of fish (not only salmon but anchovy, sardines)& borage or flaxseed oil are good extra ingredients.

    Dose is important many don;y have enough and you may get some fishy burps so take it before a meal.

    Here is a link to the Great Oz but loads more all over the web

    Daily Dose: Omega-3 | The Dr. Oz Show



    Nordic naturals make a very good fish oil. Only one that I have ever taken that I could feel a difference within 2 weeks of taking it. If you burp fish oils.....its rancid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrn12 View Post
    Nordic naturals make a very good fish oil. Only one that I have ever taken that I could feel a difference within 2 weeks of taking it. If you burp fish oils.....its rancid.
    Meant to say the same thing. My local food co-op has Nordic Naturals on sale every now and again and I stock up on the big containers when the sale hits. If you email Nordic Naturals directly they'll normally hook you up with some manufacturer's coupons as well. They'll also give you free samples to try . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kshawn View Post
    What's the general consensus about fish oil supplements? Good, bad, gimmick? I did a quick search but couldn't find any posts on it.
    Here is another good article on FO. An excellent read!

    Fish Oil - Probably the Best Nutritional Supplement in the World
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    Omega 3 is good. But it contains different amounts of pcbs, ddt, heavy metals, dioxins. Get a good one.

    translate this with google or something to see the spread.

    Miljögifter, dioxiner och pcb i fiskolja
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    Fish Oil Triglycerides vs. Ethyl Esters: A comparative review of absorption, stability and safety concerns.

    Credible Evidence: Fish Oil Triglycerides vs. Ethyl Esters: A comparative review of absorption, stability and safety concerns
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    Fish oil is anti alzheimers, anti parkinsons, anti everything. Fish oil is what at least half the brain consists of (or should I say SHOULD consist of). The more % omega3 vs the the other fats you have in your brain the smarter you get and the faster you think. The neurons signal faster and stronger. Kids that get much fish oil gets smarter.

    Fish oil is what expanded our brains (especially our frontal lobes) from peanut sized to what we have today.

    And on top of that there are positive effects too.

    Or so I've heard....
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    I buy smoked salmon on a regular basis to snack on, but also take fish oil supplements, especially when I've been eating more meat than fish.

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    An interesting read on joints, osteoporosis and nutrition's link: *Arthritis and Joint Pain*&#124* T. Colin Campbell Foundation

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    I have proven to myself, that Salmon Oil pills are as good for my "post-ride backache" as is aspirin or anything else.

    I have eliminated the placebo effect by tricking myself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by richwolf View Post
    And I can find a scientist who does not believe in global warming, too.

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    This is not entirely on topic of just FO but comes from my cardiologist and has som good info on FO in addition to...
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    Are statins and omega-3s incompatible?
    Posted on June 18, 2013 by Dr. Davis
    French researcher, Dr. Michel de Lorgeril, has been in the forefront of thinking and research into nutritional issues, including the Mediterranean Diet, the French Paradox, and the role of fat intake in cardiovascular health. In a recent review entitled Recent findings on the health effects of omega-3 fatty acids and statins, and their interactions: do statins inhibit omega-3(Recent findings on the health effects of omega-3 fatty acids and statins, and their interactions: do statins inhibit omega-3?), he explores the question of whether statin drugs are, in effect, incompatible with omega-3 fatty acids.

    Dr. Lorgeril makes several arguments:
    1) Earlier studies, such as GISSI-Prevenzione, demonstrated reduction in cardiovascular events with omega-3 fatty acid supplementation, consistent with the biological and physiological benefits observed in animals, experimental preparations, and epidemiologic observations in free-living populations.

    2) More recent studies (and meta-analyses) examining the effects of omega-3 fatty acids have failed to demonstrate cardiovascular benefit showing, at most, non-significant trends towards benefit.

    He points out that the more recent studies were conducted post-GISSI and after agencies like the American Heart Association’s advised people to consume more fish, which prompted broad increases in omega-3 intake. The populations studied therefore had increased intake of omega-3 fatty acids at the start of the studies, verified by higher levels of omega-3 RBC levels in participants.

    In addition, he raises the provocative idea that the benefits of omega-3 fatty acids appear to be confined to those not taking statin agents, as suggested, for instance, in the Alpha Omega Trial. He speculates that the potential for statins to ablate the benefits of omega-3s (and vice versa) might be based on several phenomena:

    –Statins increase arachidonic acid content of cell membranes, a potentially inflammatory omega-6 fatty acid that competes with omega-3 fatty acids. (Insulin provocation and greater linoleic acid/omega-6 oils do likewise.)

    –Statins induce impaired mitochondrial function, while omega-3s improve mitochondrial function. (Impaired mitochondrial function is evidenced, for instance, by reduced coenzyme Q10 levels, with partial relief from muscle weakness and discomfort by supplementing coenzyme Q10.)

    –Statins commonly provoke muscle weakness and discomfort which can, in turn, lead to reduced levels of physical activity and increased resistance to insulin. (Thus the recently reported increases in diabetes with statin drug use.)

    Are the physiologic effects of omega-3 fatty acids, present and necessary for health, at odds with the non-physiologic effects of statin drugs?

    I fear we don’t have sufficient data to come to firm conclusions yet, but my perception is that the case against statins is building. Yes, they have benefits in specific subsets of people (none in others), but the notion that everybody needs a statin drug is, I believe, not only dead wrong, but may have effects that are distinctly negative. And I believe that the arguments in favor of omega-3 fatty acid supplementation, EPA and DHA (and perhaps DPA), make better sense.

    - See more at: Are statins and omega-3s incompatible? | Track Your Plaque Blog
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    Just want to chime in wmodavis post.

    a few years ago I was given some medication that is known to be very liver toxic and causes liver cancer, but is the only shizzle that works.

    So every 2 weeks they sampled my blood to find out if I was dying from it or not, like 20 parameters measured.

    And since i knew the sideffects I took 6g omega 3 every day and like 3-5g omega 6. omega 6 protects the liver. the first 2 months my liver parameters got a lot worse and so did everything else.
    At the start everything was "normal" but 2 months in everything was "bad", everything.

    but then somehow it rebounded for the remainder of the treatment, starting at month 3 as normal, finishing at extremely good, all parameter they measured became suspiciously good, and this is funny since i partied every weekend both friday and saturday. This had never ever happened before in the entire history of humankind. So saying the correct fatty acids for the situation is useless is BS. I know first hand they work extremely well. The body is a machine, with the correct fuel repair building blocks it will run and repair itself to an extremely high standard.

    My very smart doctors could not believe this was happening, but it was, just as expected. I would have been happy finishing at baseline but it worked much better than expected actually. And thats how **** works in reality when people do their homework. Why take a chance right?
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    Taste

    Are there some fish oils on the market that don't taste . . . fishy?

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