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    2013 Osprey Raptor 10 Initial Impressions

    I ordered from Backcountry and it arrived last Friday.

    I haven't gotten out to use it yet as the winds have been really bad here in Hawaii and the rain has been bad also.

    So far I love it. I wanted to get the old version but I didn't see too much reason to switch from my Mule. Well I saw the new model and knew it was time. I debated on color and scoured the interwebz for pictures of the colors. I saw more red than anything but I wanted to see the green. I saw some many differences in that color from "I Love it!" to "Ehh." Well I decided to go with black as I have a red shirt that I wear when riding.


    The black is not a super deep black like my Mule, but it is black just in certain light it looks like a really dark gray. The material is definitely lighter than the Mule also.



    Sorry for the focus my 3 yr old tried to tackle me. The back panel is much nicer than the Mule, but I have no complaints on the Mule it has served me well. I love how much ventilation there is on the straps even by the tube is mesh.




    The tool roll is the main feature that sold me. While I had a small bag that I kept the tools in to keep them organized in the Mule this is much better. It removes very easily by two T buttons and loops.



    The main compartment is very well laid out. I love the mesh pocket and the two deep side pockets. I have a spare tube, leatherman and knife in the mesh pocket and my Lezyne Pressure drive pump in the side pocket. It fits my first aid kit and Endura Photon jacket with plenty of room to spare.




    The accessory pocket has an inner pocket they say is for keys and such. The outer pocket is supposed to be anti scratch for sunglasses.



    The zipper pockets are another feature that sold me.


    While standing upright the bad feels good but while on the bike is where it shines! The strap management is a different approach than Camelbak. While not worse it isn't as clean looking but allows more adjustment on the fly than Camelbak IMHO. The bladder is similar to the older model but is made by Osprey not Nalgene and the magnet is stronger for the bite valve also.

    I highly recommend this bag to anyone and everyone!!!

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    Great write-up my friend. Mine is in the mail, can't wait.

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    What color did you get? Be sure to post pictures!

    I know it's new but I hope to see more people with them.

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    I almost ordered the new viper 9 but now I may want the raptor 10... Decisions decisions

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    2013 Osprey Raptor 10 Initial Impressions

    Nice pack!
    Can you tell me if you can only run the hose on the right side (when pack is on)? From the pic it looks like it has a zipper on the one side.

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    Another question how is the semi rigi back panel? I've got a Mule which is soft..but bulges with the full bladder, making it not mesh well against my back. Does this pack sit well when full of water? Is it semi flexible or more like a frame is in it? I'm assuming its still comfortable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeriderguy View Post
    Nice pack!
    Can you tell me if you can only run the hose on the right side (when pack is on)? From the pic it looks like it has a zipper on the one side.
    Yes just the right side.

    Quote Originally Posted by slipitysmooth View Post
    Another question how is the semi rigi back panel? I've got a Mule which is soft..but bulges with the full bladder, making it not mesh well against my back. Does this pack sit well when full of water? Is it semi flexible or more like a frame is in it? I'm assuming its still comfortable?
    Yes much better than the Mule. The bladder had a molded plate that is the same as the back panel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worrptangl View Post
    What color did you get? Be sure to post pictures!

    I know it's new but I hope to see more people with them.
    I got the black also. When it gets in I'll load it up with gear and take some pics of the equipment inside for scale.

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    Re: 2013 Osprey Raptor 10 Initial Impressions

    [QUOTE=worrptangl;10186482]Yes just the right side.



    Thanks for the write up. I had the same question about the hose. I've had a Mule for years and run the hose on the left side so I can grab it with, my left hand. That feels more comfortable than the right side. I don't know why it doesn't feel right taking my right hand off the bars. Seems like a silly reason not to get an Osprey pack, but its the only thing holding me back.

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    [QUOTE=moldau94;10187426]
    Quote Originally Posted by worrptangl View Post
    Yes just the right side.



    Thanks for the write up. I had the same question about the hose. I've had a Mule for years and run the hose on the left side so I can grab it with, my left hand. That feels more comfortable than the right side. I don't know why it doesn't feel right taking my right hand off the bars. Seems like a silly reason not to get an Osprey pack, but its the only thing holding me back.
    I am pretty sure you will still be able to grab the hose with either hand. Osprey packs have a magnet that attaches the mouthpiece to the sternum strap.

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    The magnet is on the left side of the sternum strap so it attaches on the left side routed on the right.

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    Do you find yourself using the magnet? Not sure that I would really take the time to put the mouthpiece on the magnet and instead just let it hang loose like I do on my Mule.

    Also, is the hose detachable from the bladder? That's the one thing I really like about the Camelback Antidote bladder. After a ride a simply disconnect the hose and remove the bladder. The old CB bladder had me thread the hose through the top of the back and through the shoulder straps, so it's helpful to just leave the hose attached to the bag all the time.

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    I haven't got to actually use it but I have rode around a little with it. I liked it using the magnet. No the hose doesn't have a quick disconnect.

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    well after much deliberation...i pulled the trigger on a black raptor 10! Thinking the tool pack and the side zip pockets were what made the decision for me. Looks like I got the last black one from backcountry.com as of now anyways! stoked!

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    Congrats! Did you get free shipping?

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    sure did to my APO address, and tossed in a frame pump and some spare tubes to help fill it up

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    They did a great job with the update on this pack, I really need it to replace my old Raptor 6! I wish I hadn't just bought a Zealot 10 2 months ago, ahh.

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    How is the back padding? Is there any or is it still that hardish mesh?

    I bought one a few years ago but the back of the pack did not like my back and rubbed a raw spot so I sold it and went back to the camelbak due to their softer back padding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    How is the back padding? Is there any or is it still that hardish mesh?

    I bought one a few years ago but the back of the pack did not like my back and rubbed a raw spot so I sold it and went back to the camelbak due to their softer back padding.
    The mesh is still there but it's not stiff. The padding is minimal but I can't compare it to the previous model because I never had it. Comparing it to the Mule I take the Osprey. I walking around Waikiki all day yesterday and never had a problem and barely had any sweat marks where the bag or straps were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moldau94 View Post
    Do you find yourself using the magnet? Not sure that I would really take the time to put the mouthpiece on the magnet and instead just let it hang loose like I do on my Mule.

    Also, is the hose detachable from the bladder? That's the one thing I really like about the Camelback Antidote bladder. After a ride a simply disconnect the hose and remove the bladder. The old CB bladder had me thread the hose through the top of the back and through the shoulder straps, so it's helpful to just leave the hose attached to the bag all the time.

    The new Raptors, Ravens, Vipers, and Verves all feature Osprey's new Direct Access Zip. This means that there is no threading the hose through slots or shoulder straps. The zipper runs down the shoulder strap so a quick zip and the reservoir slides in or out. It is super quick and convenient but doesn't open it up to the leak possibilities that come with some of the quick disconnect systems.

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    Re: 2013 Osprey Raptor 10 Initial Impressions

    Hey, thanks a lot for the reply. Good to know about the new zip system. I have to admit that while I like the quick disconnect on the CB antidote, i did have to feturn one because of leaks.

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    Part of me wished I had got the 14 instead of the 10 but I don't know if I'd ever need that much room.

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    The 2013 raptor 14 is looking like a great mid-large size pack. Has anyone seen the 'screamin green' color in person yet?

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    I just got the previous generation Raptor 14. Osprey makes good stuff! I believe the new Raptors are one-size-fits-all. The prior version came in S/M and M/L.

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    That is true^^^^

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    seems like a popular pack, backcountry is out of stock on everything but the green, glad I got my order in..hoping it will be in the mail when I go to check today!

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    I still kind of wish I got the green.

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    Undetermined on the green, seems like I'd need to see it in person to make a sure call on it. But it would definitely be different!

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    Ospreypacks confirmed that the green is accurate in this picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ospreypacks View Post
    The new Raptors, Ravens, Vipers, and Verves all feature Osprey's new Direct Access Zip. This means that there is no threading the hose through slots or shoulder straps. The zipper runs down the shoulder strap so a quick zip and the reservoir slides in or out. It is super quick and convenient but doesn't open it up to the leak possibilities that come with some of the quick disconnect systems.
    That's very nifty. The 2012 version doesn't have that.


    Quote Originally Posted by worrptangl View Post
    Part of me wished I had got the 14 instead of the 10 but I don't know if I'd ever need that much room.
    You could always cinch down the sides of the 14 if it's not full.

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    I know but seriously the 10 is enough room.

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    Got my pack in the mail today! Super stoked, it looks awesome. Now just gotta fill it up and head out for a ride, planning the next time I can ride already. Hopefully I can get some trail time in this week since its supposed to hit 60 this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husonfirst View Post
    I just got the previous generation Raptor 14. Osprey makes good stuff! I believe the new Raptors are one-size-fits-all. The prior version came in S/M and M/L.
    Any info on how the fit/size of the 2013's compares to the old ones? The other 2013 raptor changes look awesome, but I worry that a one-size pack won't fit as well as my old one.

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    Have any of you verified the 3.0L bladder? My Osprey 3.0L bladder only holds a little more than 2L. That includes the tube being filled as well.

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    Not yet. I will try later tonight or tomorrow for you.

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    The new Raptor pack is the equivalent torso sizing of the previous M/L version of a Raptor. The Raven is equivalent torso sizing of the previous S/M version of a Raven. The Raven is also cut for a narrower shoulder and smaller hipbelt. There is no reason that a guy couldn't wear a Raven pack especially since a green color is offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRS73 View Post
    Have any of you verified the 3.0L bladder? My Osprey 3.0L bladder only holds a little more than 2L. That includes the tube being filled as well.
    The new reservoirs hold more than the listed volume in both the 3.0L and 2.0L volume. This is one of the things that we made sure to improve with the new design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ospreypacks View Post
    The new Raptor pack is the equivalent torso sizing of the previous M/L version of a Raptor. The Raven is equivalent torso sizing of the previous S/M version of a Raven.
    That's great, thanks for responding.

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    Great write-up. Do these come with a rain fly?
    Where's the gas pedal on this thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskagriz View Post
    Great write-up. Do these come with a rain fly?
    A rain cover is not included but available as an option for those that will be riding in wet environments.

    Hi-Vis Raincover (XS) - Osprey Packs, Inc :2013: Official Site

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    I just order one of these packs from REI, can't wait to get it. They have a 20% member coupon right now so it was $97 or so with free shipping.

    I was very close to buying one of the 2012 versions for around $60 but all of the new features were things that I really wanted.

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    photos of the screamin' green would be nice....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmoreKen View Post
    photos of the screamin' green would be nice....
    Here you go:

    2013 Osprey Raptor 10 Initial Impressions-raptor-10-screamin-green.jpg

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    Now that is a nice green. Too bad my bike is red. I'd look like Christmas. Which I guess isn't too bad a thing. Good write up too.

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    1) the hard shell of the bladder presses on my lower spine. It's a nuisance.

    2) the tube is too long and curves back towards your face. combined with the 90 degree bite valve, it ends up turning 90 degrees away from your mouth. it would be much more ergnomic if the valve was open at 180 degrees. as it currently is designed, I have to turn my head and pull back on the tube to get it to line up w/ my mouth. so the valve is constantly pressing against my lip and not allowing the water to flow smoothly.

    The pack definitely needs better padding to counteract the solid plastic spine of the bladder hitting your lower back.


    3) the pack fits surprisingly well and doesn't really move around on your back.



    I wish there was a way to modify the bite valve. it's just not ergnomic at all.
    the magnet also needs to be stronger so you dont have to be so accurate and fumble around to get it to remount.

    I've seen TINY magnets in power meters that are unbelievably strong.

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    You can cut the tube to whatever length you want. Are you sure you don't have an older 2012 model? If I remember right they upgraded the magnet on the 2013s. I know I rarely have a problem reattaching mine.

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    Sounds like you have one of the previous generation Raptors. The 2013 reservoir and backpanels have been redesigned so that they still maintain enough structure to keep the load stable but are more compliant than earlier ones. You can definitely trim the hose to whatever length you want. The bite valve will pop off easily. Cut your hose and push the bite valve back on the hose.
    The magnet is also stronger on newer models. You can replace the reservoir with the new generation and get the stronger magnet or just order a replacement magnet kit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesm925 View Post
    1) the hard shell of the bladder presses on my lower spine. It's a nuisance.

    2) the tube is too long and curves back towards your face. combined with the 90 degree bite valve, it ends up turning 90 degrees away from your mouth. it would be much more ergnomic if the valve was open at 180 degrees. as it currently is designed, I have to turn my head and pull back on the tube to get it to line up w/ my mouth. so the valve is constantly pressing against my lip and not allowing the water to flow smoothly.

    The pack definitely needs better padding to counteract the solid plastic spine of the bladder hitting your lower back.


    3) the pack fits surprisingly well and doesn't really move around on your back.



    I wish there was a way to modify the bite valve. it's just not ergnomic at all.
    the magnet also needs to be stronger so you dont have to be so accurate and fumble around to get it to remount.

    I've seen TINY magnets in power meters that are unbelievably strong.

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    damn...you're right. I thought I was buying the latest model from the LBS....apparently they sold me the 2012 model. mine doesn't have the tool pouch, and it has a gray bladder.

    hmm....maybe I can get them to exchange it? Is that something that you guys would honor? (it's the trek store in boulder).

    I really want to like this pack, but it's just really hard against my lower spine.

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    You could check with the shop where you got it. Any exchanges, etc. would have to take place through the original shop. The new model may cost a bit more but way worth it in my opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesm925 View Post
    damn...you're right. I thought I was buying the latest model from the LBS....apparently they sold me the 2012 model. mine doesn't have the tool pouch, and it has a gray bladder.

    hmm....maybe I can get them to exchange it? Is that something that you guys would honor? (it's the trek store in boulder).

    I really want to like this pack, but it's just really hard against my lower spine.

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    so I was able to get a refund and picked up the 2013 model from excel sports.

    The design is much, much nicer. The bladder backplate is noticeably more compliant and softer, and I didn't notice the bag hitting on my lower spine at all!

    Thanks for the heads up on the new design Osprey rep

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