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    Where near Brevard to ride during Federal shutdown?

    I understand that the PNF is on shutdown and trail poachers will be ticketed. Where else is there to ride in the area that is NOT federal and WILL be open to ride? We have a crew of 12 people coming in to camp and ride for 4 days this weekend.

    Thanks

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    There is nothing stopping you from riding that I am aware of. Camping at an organized campground is another story.

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    Re: Where near Brevard to ride during Federal shutdown?

    Dupont for fun. You can pick harder tech routes out of Corn mill Shoals parking lot.

    Green River game lands near Hendo has tech. Steep and rooty.

    But no where I know of offers what PNF has to offer up.

    Get some maps.

    So far I have read contradictory info on whether or not the trails are open. Be sure.
    He/she who works the trails does so in their own image.

    Speed just slows me down...

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    The trails are not closed. The only campground closed is Mt. Pisgah. Fee areas and facilities that are not operated by private concessionaires are closed. Bathrooms might be locked but you should not encounter any real inconveniences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockpot2001 View Post
    I understand that the PNF is on shutdown and trail poachers will be ticketed.
    All trails and backcountry areas are open. In fact, many Pisgah area campgrounds are operated by private concessionaires and are open. Here is the official word from National Forests in NC as of this afternoon:

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    FOREST SERVICE ALERT

    Oct. 1, 2013

    Most National Forest Facilities Closed

    ASHEVILLE, N.C. -- Most facilities in the national forests in North Carolina are closed due to a lapse in federal government funding.

    The closure affects offices, many campgrounds, day use areas, bathrooms, shooting ranges, off-highway vehicle trails, fee areas and other facilities managed by U.S. Forest Service in the Nantahala, Pisgah, Uwharrie, and Croatan National Forests.
    The following campgrounds, operated by concessionaires, will remain open.
    Pisgah National Forest: Black Mountain Campground; Briar Bottom Group Camp; Carolina Hemlocks Recreation; Cove Creek Campground; Davidson River Campground; Kimsey Creek Group Campground; Kuykendall Group Campground; Lake Powhatan Recreation Area; North Mills River Recreation Area; Sunburst Recreation Area; and White Pines Group Campground.
    Nantahala National Forest: Cliffside Day Use Area; Van Hook Glade Campground; and Standing Indian/Kimsey Creek/Hurricane Creek Recreation Complex.

    Visitors may still hike, fish and use undeveloped recreational areas of the national forests during the closure period. No restrooms or trash collection will be available at trailheads, and visitors are encouraged to practice Leave No Trace ethics. Only essential Forest Service employees, such as firefighters, will continue working during the closure. All volunteer activities are cancelled.

    The National Recreation Reservation Service, available through Back Soon, will also be closed.

    For more information about the national forests in North Carolina, visit National Forests in North Carolina - Home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crockpot2001 View Post
    I understand that the PNF is on shutdown and trail poachers will be ticketed. Where else is there to ride in the area that is NOT federal and WILL be open to ride? We have a crew of 12 people coming in to camp and ride for 4 days this weekend.

    Thanks
    So yeah everything is shutdown,cancel your plans.

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    To Answer the question.
    DuPont is state run and not far from Brevard.

    However, like stated the trails are open.
    So are any camp sites that are not state run.

    The best rule of thumb will be that if it is a pay site and there is no way to pay, then do not poach it. Not sure if you will legally be able to enter in to places like sliding rock and don't care enough to look it up. Public restrooms at places such as the fish hatchery and Coontree picnic area may be closed or they may be opened and just not restocked. Otherwise, enjoy yourself.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    LOL, the gov't shutdown has nothing to do with riding the trails in Pisgah that I ride?
    I have never seen a ranger in the woods in 15 years, don't know why they would start now?

    Camping is another story I guess

    I am talking about the trails that start at the ranger station maintenance parking lot, Horse stables, Fish hatchery and the pink beds area.
    Bent creek may be another story but I don't ever ride bent creek

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    Many thanks for the detailed responses except you Sasquatch, you are naughty. No beer for you.

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    yeah, just get here and ride
    The weather has been awesome

    We had 25 inches of rain in july and august
    Some Pisgah trails are suffering from the additional erosion
    Like the descent down from the top of Hickory knob and the top of Avery creek

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    Lub dat top of avery. Bring dat erosion. Black too.

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    The Fish Hatchery in Pisgah is run by the state, not the Forest Service. I road from the hatchery for several hours on Saturday. Nothing at any trail heads indicating they were closed to users. People were still camped at Daniel Ridge and many other hikers and bikers on the trails also. The Sycamore picnic area was blocked off and the Ranger Station was closed, and the bathrooms there were lock, which is why I stopped on my way in. Just don't go around anything obviously marked as closed and you should be ok.

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    Daniel ridge area is not a pay to camp place so they are not bothering folks there.
    There were lots of campers there this morning

    I Rode by that area this morning and saw a bear behind a campers tent
    My dogs took off after the bear and I stopped them

    People were coming out of their tents and so I gave them a heads up about the bear
    One guy said he was not coming out of his tent till the coast was clear, LOL

    After the ride I was coming back from the fish hatchery and as I was passing 471, (the horse stables road), there was a forest law enforcement truck turning onto 471
    Probably going to check the camp sites on that road

    I imaging the camp sites on Yellow gap road (1206) are off limits also

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    So, just to confirm before driving there, Davidson River Campground is open? Thanks.

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    I believe it is
    I will be driving by it in a few hours on the way to a ride
    I'll confirm and get back to you

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    According to this, Davidson is closed until the shutdown ends.

    I'm hoping it's not true as I was planning to camp there in late October...
    Last edited by M0riarty; 10-09-2013 at 11:01 PM.

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    yeah, you are right, Davidson is closed
    Just got back from my ride and checked it out on the way by

    People were camping on White pines road though (horse stables road)

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    Quote Originally Posted by El34 View Post
    yeah, you are right, Davidson is closed
    Thanks for the recon! Now I can weigh my options better.

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    Where near Brevard to ride during Federal shutdown?

    Quote Originally Posted by El34 View Post
    yeah, you are right, Davidson is closed
    Just got back from my ride and checked it out on the way by

    People were camping on White pines road though (horse stables road)
    Do you mean camping in roadside sites on that road, or in the White Pines group site? Did you see whether that was open/occupied?

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    The sites along the road past the main camp, not the main white pines site
    I saw several people camping at those sites on Wednesday

    I did not see anyone at the main site. There were two vehicles parked there but the people were just checking the main camp area out.
    The main camp area has a sign that says it's a fee site and so that may be closed

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    Where near Brevard to ride during Federal shutdown?

    Hmm, gonna need to get some more intel somehow...

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    Call the ranger station
    Don't know if anyone is there to answer the phone

    Ranger station web site

    CFAIA - Pisgah Visitor Center Pisgah Ranger Station NC

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    Where near Brevard to ride during Federal shutdown?

    Not looking good...
    (From CFAIA site) "The following campgrounds will re-open upon government funding resolution: Davidson River, North Mills River, White Pines/Kuykendall/Cove Creek Group Sites in NC and Lake Winfield Scott in Georgia. Sunburst and Lake Powhatan in NC may re-open upon resolution, however with limited services."

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    Hopefully the funding crap does not drag on past the 17th
    That's next Thursday, so only a week to wait and see

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