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    Tsali

    Is the tsali recreation area open for camping and mountain biking?? I have a trip planned for oct 7 2013. Any info would be appreciated, thanks

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    According to the folks at Bryson City Bikes, the campground is closed & the signage at the trailhead kiosk indicates that the trails are closed to all users. You can still drive down to the trailhead area.

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    The cynical side of me wants to say that these trail closures are just a clever way to effect political repercussions for the whole government shutdown fiasco, making constituents who use them angry enough to contact their representatives and get it resolved.

    The practical side realizes that keeping a popular, developed, front-country trail system like Tsali, FATS, or the Great Smoky Mountains open during a management hiatus could very well lead to reckless abuses of the amenities at the trailheads: household waste in the pit toilets, poaching by ATV's and 4wd trucks, graffiti, alcohol, fires in parking lots, etc. - all the crap you can imagine mice doing while the cat's away.

    The upshot is that I'm less and less inclined to want developed recreation areas serving as hubs for our trail systems. In Pisgah, we're used to pack it in, pack it out, leave-no-trace style recreation on widely dispersed trails, so the shutdown just has no practical impact.

    This is yet another reason I'm sad that remote trails like Summey Cove are closing.

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    Well if all the rangers are off on furlough, who is going to be around to enforce trail closures at all these places?
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    Law enforcement rangers are still on the job in the NFS.
    I imagine if they are going thru a closed area & see a parked car, then a ticket will be left.

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    So everyone is welcome to come to Spartanburg to ride this weekend. Our trails are rough and pretty much unmarked, but they are damn sure open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wncbiker View Post
    law enforcement rangers are still on the job in the nfs.
    I imagine if they are going thru a closed area & see a parked car, then a ticket will be left.
    yawn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch on 1206 View Post
    yawn!
    A yawn followed by an exclamation point. So it's an excited yawn. The things people think.

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    Major bummer....we have a trip scheduled for next week.

    What about JackRabbit, Brush Creek and places like that?

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    Come ride brushy creek. Park at Boyd gap and bomb down old copper road to the whitewater center crossover and hit chestnut and thunder rock. These pricks do nothing but flush our tax money down the drain then make big show by pulling this stuff. Feds are out of control.

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    According to SABA, Jackrabbit is open. The restrooms at the trailhead are locked.

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    Jackrabbit is open. The campground is closed and the pit toilets at the trail head are locked. I just rode there today and am local to the trail.

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    What about Chilhowie? We have a trip planned for next week, just trying to put together alternate plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Side View Post
    What about Chilhowie? We have a trip planned for next week, just trying to put together alternate plans.
    I gotta go to Cleveland this afternoon. I'll see if there's any barriers up at the clemmer trailhead on hwy 30.

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    I was told by a Tsali local today that a lot of people have been riding and nothing has been said. I was also told that there is 1 ranger for all of Western NC currently on duty and that he is MTB-friendly.

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    I am hearing conflicting reports concerning Tsali. The folks at Motion Makers in Sylva are reporting that enforcement of the closed trails is occurring with warning tickets today & arresting folks starting on Saturday. Not good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeridesabike View Post
    So everyone is welcome to come to Spartanburg to ride this weekend. Our trails are rough and pretty much unmarked, but they are damn sure open.
    So are the trails in Pisgah, Bent Creek and DuPont.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Side View Post
    I was told by a Tsali local today that a lot of people have been riding and nothing has been said. I was also told that there is 1 ranger for all of Western NC currently on duty and that he is MTB-friendly.
    I am sure there is more than 1 ranger in ALL of Western NC.

    That being said, do what you want, I just don't want hear anyone coming here and crying about the gray area again.

    It sucks, but there is plenty of legal riding in WNC and much of it is better that Tsali.
    Just stick it in granny and start grinding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    I am sure there is more than 1 ranger in ALL of Western NC.

    That being said, do what you want, I just don't want hear anyone coming here and crying about the gray area again.

    It sucks, but there is plenty of legal riding in WNC and much of it is better that Tsali.
    Please tell me the open trails in WNC that are in the same league, or better than Tsali.

    Serious question, not being a smartass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Side View Post
    Serious question, not being a smartass.
    Jackrabbit, if you're looking for a similar style.

    DuPont State Recreational Forest if you don't mind upping the technicality a notch, and some gravel road interconnections. It also has better scenery and variety.

    Pisgah if you don't mind a lot more tech, but a ton of variety in between.

    There are no bike-legal trails *closed* in the area, with the possible exception of Tsali and Kerr Scott...
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    Quote Originally Posted by High Side View Post
    Please tell me the open trails in WNC that are in the same league, or better than Tsali.

    Serious question, not being a smartass.
    Seriously, Tsali is fun to ride mostly just to be able to say you rode Tsali, but it ranks way down the list compared to most of what WNC has to offer.
    Pisgah Area SORBA

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    ... your idea of technical may be much different than other peoples idea of technical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Side View Post
    Please tell me the open trails in WNC that are in the same league, or better than Tsali.

    Serious question, not being a smartass.
    Literally every single one

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    Hey guys we are going on vacation to gatlinburg this next week, was planning on hitting tsali but now need some other options, anybody have any suggestions knowing that I'll be staying in the gatlinburg area (cabin is there at least)

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    The trails at Western Carolina University are open & about the same distance from Gatlinburg as Tsali. 6.8 miles of purposed built trails with around 1700' of climbing. Check out the WCU.edu website for more info. Jackrabbit, near Hayesville is still open. Bent Creek & all of the Pisgah District just southwest of Asheville.

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    So did anybody ride Tsali over the weekend?

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