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    terrain comparisons?

    Can anyone whom has ridden the Shenandoah 100 compare the technical aspects of that ride to what is available in Pisgah or Dupont?? I am thinking of entering that race next year, but am unsure of my technical abilities. The mileage and climbing I can do, but I find myself walking a fair amount when riding at Pisgah and know that you need to stay on the bike to finish a 100 miler. At Dupont I can ride about 85% of all the trails there, at Pisgah I ride maybe 60-70% of the time depending on the trail.

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    the 100 is mostly fireroad. all the trail riding is about like heartbreak ridge. smooth and fast. the idea was to put on a 100 mile race that most people would be able to finish, not to test their technical skills. do some long road rides and you'll be fine. its a lot rockier there though, granite babyheads and shale everywhere. watch out for mennonites.

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    Park and watchman- bearing in mind that I am trying to be competitive with myself in these events, know that, physically, the SM100 is one of the hardest single days I've done on a bike-harder than any of the 3 PMBAR/Death Marches I've finished. The key word is "physically"; while there is more tech riding in a PMBAR, the SM100 is, IMO, harder from a fitness standpoint due to the vast amount of climbing and the continuos aerobic output required.
    It's very very doable, but to me, that's the difference.
    Make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by watchman
    Can anyone whom has ridden the Shenandoah 100 compare the technical aspects of that ride to what is available in Pisgah or Dupont?? I am thinking of entering that race next year, but am unsure of my technical abilities. The mileage and climbing I can do, but I find myself walking a fair amount when riding at Pisgah and know that you need to stay on the bike to finish a 100 miler. At Dupont I can ride about 85% of all the trails there, at Pisgah I ride maybe 60-70% of the time depending on the trail.
    Don't worry about the technical aspect. Just stay within your limits.

    I finished the ORAMM and PMBAR this year. However, I only made it 75 miles in the sm-100.

    If you think you are fit enough, go for it.
    BS'ing less, riding more.

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    Id say the majority of the SM100 course is fairly non technical. There are several areas that most everyone walks, these are climbing in off camber or rocky portions of trail early in the ride when everyone is still grouped together. I canít think of any descending I didnít do at great speed. I know I walked on some non technical climbing stuff just because I was beaten down. If you can descend Heartbreake Ridge, Avery Creek, or Burnt Mill you can descend anything at the SM100. A good test is to ride the ORAMM 2 months before the SM100. if you can finish ORAMM and feel good at the end you can probably survive the SM100. I would agree with other post that the SM100 is the hardest thing I have ever completed on a bike.

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    Thanks for the info. I ride alot of road and do centuries with alot of climbing pretty regularly during the summer, so distance isn't what will end my ride,it is the getting on and off the bike and not making the time cut offs due to the lower average speed. The technical aspect of of ORAMM is what has kept me from entering it, I didn't want to hold up riders behind me.... Sounds like the SM 100 might be just the challenge to shoot for in 07.

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    Watchman- I would consider the SM100 SIGNIFICANTLY more challenging than either the Roan Groan or the Hilly, the two hardest road centuries I've done. In fact, it may be close to TWICE as hard physically- the Hilly takes me +/- 6 hours w/o killing myself and I am a coherent human afterwards. The SM100 took me 11 hours 40 minutes on a day that did not go well for me and it was serious work to walk, eat, or even drink a beer afterwards.
    Not trying to discourage at all as I think anybody who thinks they might be able to do an event like this should try, but a double century is a much more accurate comparison.

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    Gotta be the "Little Engine That Could" on SM 100 day.

    I didn't think the SM 100 was hard. Just long. Way more mental than physical.

    ORAMM takes more effort in spots, but is shorter.

    Most tech single in SM 100 is Wolf Ridge (early) and Chestnut Ridge (about mile 85). Neither one is super tech if you ride in control. But anything can be fairly tech at mile 85.

    I wouldn't even think about riding up Lynn and still planning to finish.

    There are two screaming (pretty much non-tech) downhills in the SM100. Dowells Draft and Braley Pond are worth the price of admission alone.

    Take this w/ a grain of salt. I'm a 13 hour man in the SM 100. Which makes me more willing than fast.

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