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    Quote Originally Posted by c_mack9 View Post
    It was 3 years ago on 4th of July weekend. I can't remember why it was closed but they weren't letting anyone ride the trails. Bent Creek is even more mellow than DuPont, isn't it? Might ride there first day for a little warm up, then ride DuPont, then go ride whichever one the wife likes best on Monday.
    My opinion would be that Bent Creek lies somewhere between DuPont and Pisgah, as far as climbing and terrain. There are definitely trails at Bent Creek that are somewhat easy, while there are others that are much harder.

    I base my assessment on your statement about rough climbing. Now if you mean technical climbing, then Bent Creek will not be bad at all, but if you mean elevation gain, then I think DuPont will be better for you. Personally, I would spend a few hours at Bent Creek. It is worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy G. Parrish View Post
    Bent Creek was closed? I didn't think they closed. When was this? It's worth it if you have yet to ride it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowMTBer View Post
    My opinion would be that Bent Creek lies somewhere between DuPont and Pisgah, as far as climbing and terrain. There are definitely trails at Bent Creek that are somewhat easy, while there are others that are much harder.

    I base my assessment on your statement about rough climbing. Now if you mean technical climbing, then Bent Creek will not be bad at all, but if you mean elevation gain, then I think DuPont will be better for you. Personally, I would spend a few hours at Bent Creek. It is worth it.
    Yeah, I really enjoyed DuPont. I'm not a huge fan of technical climbs. I'd rather go fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banjopickin View Post
    Good to know... I thought it was volunteer work.

    Wonder why they didnt clear the two large trees blocking the trail?
    They cleared them.
    Should you do more trail work?

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    Pisgah Trail Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by c_mack9 View Post
    It was 3 years ago on 4th of July weekend. I can't remember why it was closed but they weren't letting anyone ride the trails. Bent Creek is even more mellow than DuPont, isn't it? Might ride there first day for a little warm up, then ride DuPont, then go ride whichever one the wife likes best on Monday.
    BC doesn't close. Who told you that you couldn't ride? Who is "they"? It would be near impossible to "close" Bent Creek. Too many access points and access issues. Not to say that you should ride there during nasty times, but the place doesn't just "close". And yes, BC is maybe more technical than DuPont, but a great intro to pisgah proper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    BC doesn't close. Who told you that you couldn't ride? Who is "they"? It would be near impossible to "close" Bent Creek. Too many access points and access issues. Not to say that you should ride there during nasty times, but the place doesn't just "close". And yes, BC is maybe more technical than DuPont, but a great intro to pisgah proper.
    There was a controlled burn that closed select trails IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Brown View Post
    There was a controlled burn that closed select trails IIRC.
    Yah, I recall that happening a few times, but even still, it was just a specific area that was closed. They also closed specific areas for a murder investigation at one time.

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    We did Middle Black and Lower Black yesterday, Middle was clear, Lower black had a sizable tree down near the bottom, on top of the last rock armored section that leads to grassy rd. You see it coming, but it'd be easy to plow into it since it's in such a fast section.

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    Upper Sycamore is clear, someone finally got that tree at the top. Lower Sycamore is apparently clear too.

    Multiple trees down on Cove Creek, one is in a blind corner after the little g-out with the rocks in the bottom of it (after the log bridge and hike a bike). Two others shortly after.

    Davidson River has two sets of trees down, as well.

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    Two trees down on sinkhole. Both after the sinkhole. Some asshat hiker tried to block the jump over the hole. Took care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar_Brad View Post
    Two trees down on sinkhole. Both after the sinkhole. Some asshat hiker tried to block the jump over the hole. Took care of it.
    Where is sink hole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by El34 View Post
    Where is sink hole?
    In the middle of the trail.

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    Big ole tree down on Kitsuma before the big bermed left hand turn near the bottom... if your hauling mail you could hit it. Keep your head up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banjopickin View Post
    Big ole tree down on Kitsuma before the big bermed left hand turn near the bottom... if your hauling mail you could hit it. Keep your head up.
    Is Kitsuma still a mess of peanut butter? Went in October after trail work day and rain days after said work day made it some of the softest gunk ever. Felt bad riding on it.

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    A few mucky spots but rode fine. The lower section has been soupy for years.

    The work they did was fine but seemed like bad timing going into the wet seasons. A couple grade dips were pretty soft.

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    Anyone been down Kitsuma since the snow?

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    jammer- I have not, but just in case you didn't know this already, Kitsuma has some pretty fresh machine work on it. That newly exposed red clay is about the worse in snow/freeze/thaw cycles, it'd be really low on my list of trails to try.

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    Lower Black is pretty sloppy still, I was a bit surprised. I've seen it worse but it was not in great shape today. Sycamore yesterday was great, the upper part anyway, no real wet spots or anything of note, although grassy had some sloppy sections at the top.

    I haven't tried N Slope yet, I figured it'd be terrible still.

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    Anyone been out in the forest lately? How are things looking?

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    Prior to yesterday's rain they were pretty decent, a few wet spots but nothing out of the ordinary.

    The front country stuff (Sycamore, N Slope, Lower Black) was pretty wet today though. A bit sketchy in spots, if you were to do something then I'd do upper or lower sycamore, although I suspect n slope will clear out fine by tomorrow, there are some trees down (or were).

    There is also a monster tree down on Lower Sycamore, after the first creek crossing with the rock rolldown. It's as you make that tight-ish lift hand turn with the little dip in it, you'll round the tree and there is a big one down right on the other side. It had some impalers sticking out that nearly got me, but I broke most of them off.

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    Rode Kitsuma last night. Large parts of the trail are in fine shape, but the lower portion is awful. Give it a rest until after this next weather system/freeze/thaw.

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    Anyone have any updates? I'm not holding my breath but I'd love to get out there on Sunday. Could do Brevard, Kitsuma area, or Wilson's. Maybe something will be rideable!

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    Brevard area is pretty good! I obviously haven't ridden all of it, but everything I have has been perfect and most folks I've spoken with indicate they've experienced the same. The rain didn't seem to have much of an impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Brevard area is pretty good! I obviously haven't ridden all of it, but everything I have has been perfect and most folks I've spoken with indicate they've experienced the same. The rain didn't seem to have much of an impact.
    At my place in Candler, things were fairly soggy still a few days ago, but the couple sunny days we got really cooked off a lot of moisture. I was kicking myself for sleeping late today and not getting out early today. I couldn't stop thinking about how a lot of trails were probably in good shape today. And even the rain so far has been super light and drizzly, so probably not affecting the trails much.

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    Anyone know current status of 1206 from North Mills/fishermans bridge up to Yellow Gap? Open or closed to vehicles?

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    Thanks to whoever did the work of cutting all the downed trees off the trails around the fish hatchery. We kept running into places we had seen trees down the last few weeks and noticed them cut out of many places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Thanks to whoever did the work of cutting all the downed trees off the trails around the fish hatchery. We kept running into places we had seen trees down the last few weeks and noticed them cut out of many places.
    We cleared many fallen trees and limbs along Pink Beds > South Mills > Buckhorn > Black > Avery > Buckhorn > Buckwheat today. Still some down requiring chainsaws, but everything is passable now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithified View Post
    Anyone know current status of 1206 from North Mills/fishermans bridge up to Yellow Gap? Open or closed to vehicles?
    Closed from 476/Gauging Station to just west of fisherman's bridge. Purportedly till April.

    Between that closure and turkey pen road closure (and the tough winter), you can really tell that trail traffic has dropped off. Was still like fall on Laurel Mtn Pilot Squirrel Laurel Creek. Crazy fun leaf surfing.

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    how are the conditions for riding this weekend. Ill be in Asheville on Friday-Sunday
    see that there is expected rain/snow for Saturday...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yem999 View Post
    how are the conditions for riding this weekend. Ill be in Asheville on Friday-Sunday
    see that there is expected rain/snow for Saturday...
    Really difficult to predict, I think most of the forecasts the last few weeks or months have been way off and weather up here is hard to predict. Most forecasts more than 24hrs out are gonna be unreliable, anyway, unless it's weather associated with a strong frontal movement.

    I'd avoid broad forecasts that just say "rain", "snow", etc, you typically need more information, because they'll say rain, but that could mean rain all day or rain for 10 minutes at 11pm, they don't really differentiate. I usually find Ray's weather to be the most consistent forecasts and he provides a bit more information on what you can expect rather than just broadly saying rain. If you are planning on riding, you want to get some idea of when to expect the weather to show up and where, which many forecasts don't really provide.

    While you are here, I'd keep an eye on the radar. You may find storms to the north and south, but nothing near you, or vice versa. It's the most concrete way you can make a decision in the short term, but even then, it's not a guarantee (it'll only show what's currently there, not what's building up, and images are often delayed). You can usually make some kind of a call based on that, though.

    As for trail conditions, they've been drying out really quickly even after a fair amount of rain, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.

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    thanks for the info Adodero. hoping its nice all weekend without snow or rain. Worst case Ill sit in a brewery drinking all day

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    Bennett was pretty much hero dirt today. Even with sleet pelting me in the face on my way down.

    My house in Candler got a good bit of rain early, stopped during the midday, and then picked up again later. Brevard was WAY drier.

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    Countless trees down on Turkey Pen Gap, mostly on the flats and uphills heading east (don't recall coming across a downed tree while heading downhill). Lots of early spring shoots and runners encroaching on the trail...wear sleeves. Leaf-litter obscured much of the trail...probably not a problem for locals, but this was my first time on Turkey Pen Gap, so I was fortunate there were no surprises or wheel-swallowing holes or rocks on any of the descents. YMMV

    Cantrell also had a few trees down at the lower portion of the trail.

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    Bent Creek trails closed until at least Friday, June 1st per USFS.

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