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    Ingles field is a 7 out of 10 today.

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    Trail Conditions in Pisgah

    What do the trails look like for the weekend down there?

    I'm headed down for a Fri-Mon long weekend trip, and am tossing around which tires to install on my fatbike.

    I rode down there this spring, when it was relatively dry, and my 45Nrth Husker Dus were good for those conditions. They gripped the dry rock well.

    Up here in Indiana, autumn has been flirting a little, and I'm thinking about switching to more aggressive fall/winter tread to grip through the leaf litter and damper conditions. Is it still summery down there (I see the forecast for the week is pretty gorgeous right now, but not sure if the trees are starting to drop leaves yet or not)?

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    When are you going? In my experience the leaves don't start heavily dropping until later in October. I'm not local, my dad is though, and I go up there every October to ride. Early October is my favorite time to ride there as the trees are turning but the leaves aren't too bad. I was up there last weekend and the trees hadn't even started to turn at the highest elevations FWIW. Trails seemed drier than normal too. Condition were basically perfect.

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    This weekend

    Sounds like the tires I'm using now will be perfect.

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    Yeah, trails should be primo.

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    Things are pretty much perfect right now, albeit a bit dry.

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    Could use a bit of rain but trails are running good.

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    I'm coming up to ride Pisgah/Dupont this upcoming Fri/Sat/Sun. I've noticed the rainfall amounts have been up and more is forcasted this week. How are the trails doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    This weekend

    Sounds like the tires I'm using now will be perfect.
    Merged your thread into the Pisgah Sticky, Harold.

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    Anyone out today/yesterday? How're things holding up to the deluge? Wanting to ride Bent Creek or Pisgah proper this afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithified View Post
    Anyone out today/yesterday? How're things holding up to the deluge? Wanting to ride Bent Creek or Pisgah proper this afternoon.
    I'll be in Bent Creek after work too today. I think it should be hardened somewhat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AshevilleMtBiker View Post
    I'll be in Bent Creek after work too today. I think it should be hardened somewhat.


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    Yeah I didn't think it was bad at all. A couple puddles. Was wet, not muddy, if that makes sense. Good time out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithified View Post
    Yeah I didn't think it was bad at all. A couple puddles. Was wet, not muddy, if that makes sense. Good time out there.
    Yep. We just got back too. Awesome ride.


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    I'm heading up there this weekend--how're things looking in Pisgah?

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    Looking sunny


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    Looks fine everywhere I have been so far

    We had almost 11 inches of rain since 09/25, but it was so dry that it seems to have soaked in really well.

    Dupont has some trail closures, but this area of Pisgah is fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by El34 View Post
    Looks fine everywhere I have been so far

    We had almost 11 inches of rain since 09/25, but it was so dry that it seems to have soaked in really well.

    Dupont has some trail closures, but this area of Pisgah is fine
    Hi, wondering if there are any updates:

    Plan is to drive up on Friday, ride Kitsuma on the way up. Camp in Bent Creek (reservation made)

    Was planning on a long ride in DuPont on Saturday.

    Bent Creek (most of it) Sunday before leaving.

    Sounds like DuPont may not be the best idea. We usually do about 35 miles and cover most areas of the park.

    Question: What trails will be in BEST condition. (Not in the shape I used to be in, so trails like Farlow are out. Bent, Dupont, Squirrel and etc. are doable. 20-25 Pisgah miles, or 30-35 Dupont miles for Saturday.

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    Don't know about Dupont, I mostly ride Pisgah
    There were some trails closed at Dupont last week
    I am guessing they are back open by now

    It stopped raining here on 10/04 and has been really nice since then
    Pisgah is in great shape
    Even spots that usually have mudholes did not have any water in them when I rode on Tuesday 10/06

    Go to the Pisgah Sorba site for updates
    They usually report on Dupont trail closures
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    Thanks! As of 9/29:

    Due to excessive Soil Moisture
    Ridgeline
    Jim Branch
    Hooker Creek
    Reasonover Creek
    trails are closed until further notice.

    There has not been further notice. We'll make some calls, but right now I assume those trails are still closed unless I hear otherwise from a credible source.

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    I called the hub and asked Jordan if she knew about the closed trails at Dupont

    She said the last she heard they may open them up this weekend

    That's not for sure, just what she heard

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    We rode Bent Creek today, north side, south side, some upper and some lower trails. No greasy spots anywhere, in fact I'd say conditions there are damn near perfect. From the sound of things, BC is in better shape than DSRF, that is definitely unusual.
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    Ridgeline and Jim Branch were open yesterday evening when I rode. I assume everything else is too. Everything I rode on that side of Dupont was in perfect shape.

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    Thanks for the Dupont report.

    The trails that were closed at Dupont were relatively recently re-done and so the tread gets very soft still when wet.

    Plus the number of riders at Dupont is huge

    The trails will settle down and firm up eventually

    We did not any rain to speak of all summer and so the trails had no chance to firm pack.

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    Here's hoping the weatherman is wrong as usual, I'm chomping at the bit for my second taste of Pisgah tomorrow!

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    Saturday, the chance of rain is up there pretty high
    But you know how weather reports go

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    Big log (24"?) down on Lower Black. Will need chainsaw. Rock stack on the uphill side for now, can clear it ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithified View Post
    Big log (24"?) down on Lower Black. Will need chainsaw. Rock stack on the uphill side for now, can clear it ok.
    Did you report it on SORBA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshevilleMtBiker View Post
    Did you report it on SORBA?
    Negative, new to the area. How that work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithified View Post
    Negative, new to the area. How that work?
    Right here >>>Pisgah Area SORBA Report a trail problem

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    Done! Thanks.

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    Down in Charlotte we are getting swamped and I can only assume its similar in the mountains. I was hoping to get out this weekend for a ride, am tempted to try some of the Spencer Gap stuff.

    Forecast shows scattered t-storms Friday, rain all day Saturday, and Sunday clear. With that in mind and all the rain we've been getting, how are trails? Worth a trip out?
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    We have not gotten that much rain.
    2.5 inches total on 11/01 and 11/02
    Slight drizzles on and off since then

    It was so dry this summer that the ground is soaking it up.
    I was out in the ranger station area on tuesday and it was fine

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    Good to hear, heading that way tomorrow hopefully!

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    It rained last night but less than 1/4 inch

    Going on a night ride tonight
    Doing Butter gap with a group

    I bet parts of Butter will be sloppy
    But Butter is sloppy just about year round in some parts

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    Be interested to hear how it is. Its not that I don't like rain...but 4 hours of round trip driving and all..

    Anyway, tomorrow looks like morning rain, Saturday all day rain, and Sunday no rain. I'm planning on Sunday if anything, still torn between Butter and Spencer. Any recommendations on what may be better with the wet weather?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceboxsteve View Post
    Be interested to hear how it is. Its not that I don't like rain...but 4 hours of round trip driving and all..

    Anyway, tomorrow looks like morning rain, Saturday all day rain, and Sunday no rain. I'm planning on Sunday if anything, still torn between Butter and Spencer. Any recommendations on what may be better with the wet weather?
    Neither.

    Spencer is too fresh. Peanut butter...otherwise, it would be good.

    Butter is always a slop fest for one section, it will be pretty bad for the whole fun top part if it actually rains a lot.

    Pisgah trails that hold up well to wet, for the most part (all have some trouble spots):

    Laurel
    Pilot
    Daniel
    Farlow
    Squirrel (although the trails to get there can be a mess)
    Trace (because it drains so fast)
    Black (same as trace)
    Bennett going down Coontree. If its been wet, Bennett past Coontree can get fugly.

    DuPont except for Reasonover drains better than most of Pisgah.

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    Just got back from a night ride
    Fish hatchery, up Davidson, up cove creek, up 225 connector to top of Daniel ridge

    Left on Daniel, left on grassy road, left on connector back down to cove creek camp ground, Davidson river back to fish hatchery

    Pretty soupy in places
    Mainly on Cove creek

    Hard to say how it will be if no rain on Friday?
    Could soak in and be fine by the week end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Brown View Post
    Neither.

    Spencer is too fresh. Peanut butter...otherwise, it would be good.

    Butter is always a slop fest for one section, it will be pretty bad for the whole fun top part if it actually rains a lot.

    Pisgah trails that hold up well to wet, for the most part (all have some trouble spots):

    Laurel
    Pilot
    Daniel
    Farlow
    Squirrel (although the trails to get there can be a mess)
    Trace (because it drains so fast)
    Black (same as trace)
    Bennett going down Coontree. If its been wet, Bennett past Coontree can get fugly.

    DuPont except for Reasonover drains better than most of Pisgah.
    Thanks for the beta. While I'm trying to get my fill of Pisgah I could maybe skip a day and do DuPont Sunday.
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    And for Daniel, if you're doing a CCW loop, don't forget you can ride the FS road up most of the right side (climbing). Then you hit the ST mostly on the rocky southwestern flank that does mo' betta' in the wet. I'm going to give it a go later on. If too sloppy, will turn into a gravel slog.

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    I go up the 225 connector to the top of Daniel and then you can choose to go right towards Farlow or left.

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    Potentially heading out that was on Sunday too. So it sounds like maybe he DuPont area might be ok after the rain?
    Also, newish to NC and new to riding out in this area so are there any hard and fast rules for trail closures after rain out in the Pisgah area or websites that are regularly updated with closures?

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    Sunny and dry here today

    I would let the rain soak/dry up on Saturday and ride Pisgah on Sunday

    No real rules in Pisgah that I have ever seen
    Just common sense to not over ride trails when they can be damaged

    Dupont closes trails that are newer and not settled down
    Like Ridgeline and a few others

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    Sounds good thanks for the info. And yeah common sense applies I suppose, my concern is just that I won't know which trails are in a 'damageable' state until I'm on them since I'm not familiar with the area, list above is helpful though!

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    Dupont is way more sandy and probably better to ride on Saturday
    Pisgah on Sunday

    It's hard to say which trails are more prone to damaged and which ones not

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    Rode Bent Creek this afternoon. It's moist, but overall in good shape. The leaves really help the tread. Not sure it can take much more rain, keep an eye on the actual rainfall tomorrow, but it might be an option this weekend too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slounsberry View Post
    Potentially heading out that was on Sunday too. So it sounds like maybe he DuPont area might be ok after the rain?
    Also, newish to NC and new to riding out in this area so are there any hard and fast rules for trail closures after rain out in the Pisgah area or websites that are regularly updated with closures?
    Rode out of Lake Imaging Parking lot late this afternoon & most of the trails are ok- just a bit of squish. Rain is forecast tomorrow. Sunday may be the better day. Gunion Parking area is full of folks practicing search & rescue.

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    With the limited rain today (at least around NMR and Hendersonville areas), how do you guys expect Bent Creek to be tomorrow? I rode GL via IFG yesterday and it wasn't terrible.

    Trace Ridge was also in good shape today. I wouldn't hesitate riding it tomorrow. Only spots that even made me question it were the hike a bike up Spencer Gap in that area where the crazy briars usually are. Looks like a new tread surface.

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    Most likely a little wet since there was no sunshine.


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    It rained about 3/8th's on an inch today in Pisgah
    3 inches this moth so far

    I am taking the rigid carbon bike out for a gravel road and forest road loop
    It may be a bit soupy in Pisgah in places, so I'll just stay off single track tomorrow

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    How much rain did you guys get yesterday? Thinking of heading over and doing bennet and black...

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    Got 2.2 inches at my house which is between turkey pen and the the entrance

    We decided to do gravel tonight instead of trails
    I bet it is pretty soupy out there on certain trails

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    One of the guys I rode with last night lives close to Brevard
    He got 4 3/8 inches at his house on Wednesday

    I got 2.2 inches here
    So the rain amounts vary greatly here

    Mountain weather is unpredictable

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    Thank you for the updates, going to try and ride out that way Sunday.

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    Going to be real cold here Sunday
    Lows in the 20's
    High of 42

    Bring your warm stuff

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    Yep, saw that, I'll be bundled up for sure. Hardest part is managing body heat, for me at least. I'm either roasting, or cold. LOL

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    Same here
    It's a big clothes switching game for me in the cold months

    Take off crap on the climbs
    Put the crap back on at the top

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    Y'all think that rain yesterday shut us down for riding today? Interested in riding NMR today. Rained quite a bit here in Hendersonville but no standing water. Whatchya think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithified View Post
    Y'all think that rain yesterday shut us down for riding today?
    I think you should be fine. I may even try it out this evening as well.

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    Less than 3/8 inch here in Pisgah Forest at my house

    Only 2.33 inches for the whole month so far

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    Black and Sycamore are prime, go ride em

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    Oh man, we are getting hammered with rain here in Pisgah
    Flood advisories have been issued for the rivers
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    The trails were already a bit gooey on Tuesday
    I doubt many of the trails will be dry by the weekend

    Just a heads up

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    Spencer Branch, Trace, Black Mtn, Sycamore, all good to go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithified View Post
    Spencer Branch, Trace, Black Mtn, Sycamore, all good to go!
    How are your winters generally speaking? I live in upstate NY so I think its safe to say my winters are probably worse most of the time but I'm curious how cold it gets down there in the mtns during the winter months. Also, are you guys riding snow with fat bikes or can you generally ride your regular quiver all year round?

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    Mild winters here that vary greatly

    Not a drop of snow or ice so far this year
    Past years we have had snow and ice that stick around for quite a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by R3D2 View Post
    How are your winters generally speaking? I live in upstate NY so I think its safe to say my winters are probably worse most of the time but I'm curious how cold it gets down there in the mtns during the winter months. Also, are you guys riding snow with fat bikes or can you generally ride your regular quiver all year round?

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    Generally, winters are all over the place here. We started out mild, but the last little while has brought lows in the lower teens. Areas north have had some snow, but that's about it. Sometimes it snows like a sonofa*****. Ya just never know.

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    Good to know. Thx guys. Might be passing through in Feb so was curious if it would be worth it. I'll keep an eye on the weather then.


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    Definitely keep an eye on the weather and check back here.
    February weather is not very good.

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    Laurel Mtn. was excellent yesterday. While most other trails in BC and N. Mills were sloppy Laurel was in prime shape...

    Would be a good future post rain day ride when everything else is soup...

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    lower North slope was soup on friday

    It's very cold out now so the ground could be firmer today

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    Absolutely everything in BC was frozen tonight. Freeze/thaw is in full effect. Ride early or ride late, for then, there is no thaw; only freeze.

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    BC was fine last night. Wasn't quite frozen but not soupy at all. I stuck mostly to gravel but Ingles field from 5 points down through the connector was great as well as Boyd Branch and Corvair. CX bikes keep me sane when the trails are soup. I highly recommend one.

    Snowing like f*** right now so....

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    Pisgah area was blasted by over 12 inches of snow on Friday 01/22/2016

    Most stores, bike shops and post office are still closed as of Saturday

    When all this snow melts it's going to be a mess

    This is what it looked like at my house in Pisgah yesterday before another 4 inches came down


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    Pisgah Trail Conditions-uploadfromtaptalk1453560999877.jpg
    Pisgah trails conditions as of Friday morning. More snow now.
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    Nice shot

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    One more since we just don't see this much snow every year. Here is the trail sign for Upper Sycamore from the Grassy/Sycamore intersection late Saturday morning.

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    Melting snow advisory from Pisgah Area Sorba
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    I'm supposed to come up that way tomorrow and was pondering whether or not it's worth bringing my bike, based on the weather conditions.

    Any advice?

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    Gravel roads is what I would advise
    I was told that the forest roads are gated off right now, so no cars

    475B and 477 were mentioned
    not sure about 1206 yellow gap road?

    The snow is not all gone yet and it's basically wet slush

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    Even the gravel may be sketchy. Last year 1206 kept snow/ice for several weeks after that ice storm we had. Hopefully this weekend will melt the greater portion of it.

    If anyone gets out Clawhammer, 477, 1206 or 5000 way post up a gravel report please...

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    Good point, Big fat tires with low pressure is probably a good idea

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    Yellow Gap (1206) is a s*itshow. Its "rideable" but the snow/ice/slush beyond the gate at 5050 is a good 4" deep and there are no ruts to ride in. Trade the CX bike for a Fat bike and go ride cause we aint shedding this mess for a while.

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    These conditions are why I own a road bike.

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    I sold my road bike last year
    First time I have not owned a road bike in 30 years

    I don't miss it

    I would rather ride fat tires on low pressure than on a road

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    Jordan from The Hub did a road bike recon and took these pics

    477 - Avery creek road from both ends
    Taking the pictures while on 276

    The gates are close at the horse stables and at the Pink Beds end
    The lower end has some car tracks
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Pisgah Trail Conditions-477b.jpg  

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    For anyone looking to ride gravel in the Grandfather district, lots of gravel roads have been plowed since there are private properties along them. Pineola Rd is plowed from Jonas Ridge to 58, Roseboro Rd is plowed from the BRP to the end of the pavement in Roseboro (from there down to Edgemont is NOT plowed and still has about 4-5 inches snow), Edgemont is in pretty good shape, as is Brown Mtn Beech Rd. Globe Rd is fine, 90 is good with some soft spots. That's all I know.

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    ^^^ Good info. Not the case in Pisgah Ranger District.

    Clawhammer is a mess, a few spots where you can ride 100-200 yards. Bottom of 477 (near Horse Stables) is "ride in the car tracks" only. We almost bit it a few times just riding the lower section and pushed a stuck Jeep out.

    Overall, an insane ride. I will stay out of Pisgah for several more days and watch the weather.

    Also drove to 475B and it was terrible. Couple to several inches of crusty snow. Gate closed.

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    Thanks for the update

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    Where are all the fat bikes I see in BC in June? Do they get stored for the winter?

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    Its always a guess looking at weather this far out, but any ideas if stuff may clear up by next weekend (12th/13th)? Down here in Charlotte we've had some warm weather and rain. Though the forecast I see for Pisgah Forest calls for snow showers Tuesday AM. Not sure if that will be significant. Also not sure if the few days of sun will from now until next weekend will help clear/dry stuff.

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    Hard to say that far out

    It rained a bunch here today and so the snow is mostly all gone

    The trails are mush still of course

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    Rode PNF today. Clawhammer - Black - Buckwheat - Bennett.

    A few (like 4) slick spots on Black and a couple marginal spots on Lower Bennett, otherwise in fantastic shape I was genuinely surprised. 10/10 Doctors would ride again. Go shred. What a good day!!

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    Anyone have the latest on road closures? 1206, 477, 457, etc. I heard 5000 is still closed but thats for a wash-out back in the fall, not current winter conditions I believe.
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    Not sure what you are asking?
    The gravel roads that are closed usually stay closed until the spring

    477 and 475B are closed

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    Quote Originally Posted by El34 View Post
    Not sure what you are asking?
    The gravel roads that are closed usually stay closed until the spring

    477 and 475B are closed
    Lots of gravel roads in PNF close due to weather conditions. Bent Creek gap road, for example, is currently closed to the BRP, the other side of which is wash creek rd, is closed because, ironically, it's washed out. 477 is not always closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FatTireGoose View Post
    Anyone have the latest on road closures? 1206, 477, 457, etc. I heard 5000 is still closed but thats for a wash-out back in the fall, not current winter conditions I believe.
    Did a gravel ride through there and yellow gap from BC. 5000 is closed due to washout but is passible by bike. Roads were pretty soft in many places so not sure any of the trails are in very good shape to ride.

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    So a lot of roads are still closed? I was hoping to come out Friday afternoon to camp somewhere near the Fish Hatchery or up by Trace Ridge and do some riding. Are these roads open and are the trails in these areas doing okay? Thanks.
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    Last Sunday

    I did fish hatchery, up davidson, up cove creek, up 225 connector down bridges side of Daniel ridge, back to cove creek campground, down davidson to fish hatchery

    All trails and roads were in great condition, no mush, firm and ready to go

    If you are asking about gravel roads in Pisgah, they usually say closed to cars in the winter
    You are free to ride them on your bike, and without cards is great

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    Thanks for the update. I did consider bringing the gravel grinder to tour some of the roads if the singletrack wasn't great. Are all gravel roads closed? I like to drive in and camp along them.

    New to NC as of last summer so I was hoping to do Butter if I was camping near the Hatchery.
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    477-avery creek road and 475B are gated and closed to cars

    I have not been up on yellow gap road-1206, so I don't know about that
    But my guess is that it is closed also

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    Wash Creek (FR 5000) and Yellow Gap (1206) are closed. Yellow gap is closed at the gate at FR5050 and Wash Creek is closed at the campground.

    I rode Trace on Sunday. The new switchback climbs on Spencer were soft but not bad. Everything else was great. This weekend supposed to be really cold so everything should be nice and frozen...

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