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    ORAMM course change?

    I was just looking at the course and it changed from last year, no longer going down 2074 and up 472. What happened there?
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    That's just to make up for the 3rd lap of Kitsuma that he hasn't told anyone about yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeridesabike View Post
    That's just to make up for the 3rd lap of Kitsuma that he hasn't told anyone about yet.
    Nice! lol
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    Changing the subject. I know this has been asked before, but I don't remember the answer - is there any place to get water at the Curtis Creek Campground?
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    I thought there was at the lower end of the grounds, on the right as you're heading up CC Rd. According to the course map, there will be a water station going up Curtis CreeK Rd. too.

    This info says there is too.
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    Just past the campground, on the right hand side of the road, there is a pvc pipe coming out of the ground that has spring fed water. Haven't tried it myself, but I have ridden by it several times. I understand it to be good drinking water from others.

    As far as the course change, maybe the reason that it has been re-routed to stay on the parkway is that part of the road has washed out on the downhill to Black Mountain Campground. I found out this the hard way a few weeks ago while hitting around 25-30mph. I slid all the way up to the edge of the washout. It was only a couple of feet deep, but about 25 feet long. Not sure this is the reason or not. I hope to pre-ride the new route in the next couple of weeks to see how much climbing the parkway has for those 4-5 miles. I have ridden the parkway the opposite way before and remember it being a pretty long down hill going toward Curtis Creek Rd. That means, a long 9 mile climb up Curtis Creek followed by a few miles uphill on the parkway to the hike-a-bike to Heartbreak. Sounds fun!

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    Cool. I rode up through there this past Monday and saw a bear cub on the hill next to the road just past the campground.
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    I have ridden that section of the BRP many times on the road Assault on MM. It's no picnic. Steady 5-6% climb for most of the way, with one nice long downhill to break things up a bit.
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    The CC campground sometimes has water, sometimes not; the groundwater has frequently gotten contaminated with E.Coli. When that happens, however, the sign directs people to the aformentioned spring fed pipe. I've drank from it many times.
    The ORAMM has used that section of Parkway before. It, IMHO, is a really beautiful section of road and is a great place to simultaneously recover and put your head down and hammer, if that makes sense.

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    So the ideal ORAMM setup would be be to have somebody meet you at the bottom of CC rd. with a set of cyclocross tires and then follow you up to the BRP and swap them out for road tires, then give you your MTB tires back for Heartbreak. I am trying my first ORAMM this year. If anybody wants to do that for me, let me know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeridesabike View Post
    I have ridden that section of the BRP many times on the road Assault on MM. It's no picnic. Steady 5-6% climb for most of the way, with one nice long downhill to break things up a bit.
    In case anyone's interested, I put together a quick map of it at ORAMM BRP Segment in Burnsville, NC | MapMyRide to get a rough elevation profile. Looks like your description is dead on.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this the '07 course?

    So much for breaking 5:30 on the standard course goal I had set for myself.




    *Looking at old results, I'm pretty sure that's the year the course was different as well.
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    And take note:

    "All riders must carry a white light for the front of their bike and a red light for the rear of their bike and activate them while on the Blue Ridge Parkway"
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamdicky View Post
    All riders must carry a white light for the front of their bike
    I'll just unzip the front of my jersey, I'm pasty enough...

    You've probably got a half dozen from your sponsors to choose from, but for us peons: I picked up a Knog Frog led for another race this spring and it's been through all sorts of mud and grief without issue. Silicone band mount, light, simple enough for my tastes. $15 or so at Knog Frog Strobe Ft Bike Lights, Red : Amazon.com : Sports & Outdoors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IoC View Post
    I'll just unzip the front of my jersey, I'm pasty enough...

    You've probably got a half dozen from your sponsors to choose from, but for us peons: I picked up a Knog Frog led for another race this spring and it's been through all sorts of mud and grief without issue. Silicone band mount, light, simple enough for my tastes. $15 or so at Knog Frog Strobe Ft Bike Lights, Red : Amazon.com : Sports & Outdoors.
    I got lights.

    Just figured everyone needs to see this new rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamdicky View Post
    I got lights.
    Yup...I should've been more clear. Was just recommending for anyone reading this post who doesn't have a cheap decent blinky...

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    The road AOMM has never required lights and they put 800 people on that section of the BRP. I wonder if this is something the rangers just decided to do this year.
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    Looking at the map, seems like it should have taken several miles out of the course but it's still listing it as 63. Are they adding something I'm not seeing on the map to make up the mileage?

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    Does it really matter? 63 miles or 60 or whatever, it's still going to kick my butt.
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    I hear you that it will never be an easy course. Also, the BRP section may not make much difference and I understand it is a neccessity due to the road wash out. I just thought they'd try to make up the mileage somewhere. I understand this is only temporary, I just hate to see them join in the growing trend of shortening courses: Mohican 100 is now ~96 after 2012's course change, Fools Gold 100 is closer to 90 after last year's 2nd lap revision, the Pisgah 111 this year was more like Pisgh 103 according to Eric (although I heard the P55.5 was more like P63). I understand we have to adapt courses to what trails are available, but it doesn't mean I have to like it. Feel free to blast away at me if you want Mike; I can take it.

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    No blasting necessary. Just making an observation. I just hope to finish before they shut down the finish line and drink up all the beer.
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    Good luck, then. Just do not get teased into trying to stay with the big group on the road leading up to Kitsuma. As soon as the po-po escort lets us go, ease off and keep a steady pace. It is a long race and will not be won on the first climb.

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    Untitled by Martinadm2005 at Garmin Connect - Details

    I rode the BRP section 2 months ago. Click the link to see what it looks like with Curtis Creek and the BRP. It was a beautiful section of road. When I rode ice was still frozen on the sides of the rocks on the BRP. Made for a very scenic ride.

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    I have an entry available to oramm. hit me up if you want it. I believe the transfer fee is $50, payable to BRA. I paid $150 for entry, make offer.

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    They changed the start. After the first few miles, it used to go over a gate and climb to Kitsuma on a narrow paved road with no cars. Thats now out, instead you turn right and head toward the standard SAG #1. Before the SAG, it turns you left up the gravel road and you take that towards Kitsuma. This adds the mileage that you lose with the change at the top of Curtis Creek. The new map is posted on their website.

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