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    October Asheville/Brevard visit...help pick some rides!!!

    OK...it's our 4th annual Brevard trip. We plan on riding Bent Creek again, already got that lined up. But...need help picking some new routes in Pisgah and Dupont. We've ridden Bennett, Laurel Mtn, Squirrel Gap, Thrift, Sycamore, and Daniel Ridge in Pisgah...what other "must rides" have we missed? We've done Burnt Mtn., Big Rock area of Dupont...any other suggestions? We've also done the right loop at Tsali in the past. Heck, is there a ride not even in these three areas that we've been missing???

    Let us know!!!

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    Sorry, double dip

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireboy
    OK...it's our 4th annual Brevard trip. We plan on riding Bent Creek again, already got that lined up. But...need help picking some new routes in Pisgah and Dupont. We've ridden Bennett, Laurel Mtn, Squirrel Gap, Thrift, Sycamore, and Daniel Ridge in Pisgah...what other "must rides" have we missed? We've done Burnt Mtn., Big Rock area of Dupont...any other suggestions? We've also done the right loop at Tsali in the past. Heck, is there a ride not even in these three areas that we've been missing???

    Let us know!!!

    thanks!!
    I highly recommend the southside of Dupont , Fawn Lake area Resonover, Airstrip, Mine Mountain, Laurel Ridge, Shoal trails, plus you can add these in with Big Rock Cedar Mountain, Burnt Mountain for a good days riding.

    another good combo especially in mid october is Caney Btm/Daniel Ridge/Longbranch/Butter Gap!

    and if you haven't done Black Mountain...do it!

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    Picklsimer Fields/Butter Gap if you're here after 10/15.

    Great ride, but its seasonal. You have to go after the closure ends.

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    These folks are not Directional Challenged, unless you’re trying to show them a map at 11 o’clock at night after a "rest period". So, if anyone sends special trial information, please be nice and suggest the best travel route. With red arrows. You may need to include this:

    http://www.pride2.org/NewPrideSite/A...n6/compas7.GIF

    fb: We did Left Loop at Tsali. One of the best times I've had there.



    You also did the Laurel/Pilot trip - last year. Just missed the rock stop though. Heart Break would be an grand epic for you guys. If we can round up a guide, I'll pick up what's still twitching at the end with the trailer.

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    I'll second the motion for Heartbreak ridge. If you've managed the rest of your been-there-done -that-list w/o any trauma, you should be able to do it and it gets my vote as the best ride, maybe anywhere.

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    Black Mountain is a must ride. Both up and down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireboy
    OK...it's our 4th annual Brevard trip. We plan on riding Bent Creek again, already got that lined up. But...need help picking some new routes in Pisgah and Dupont. We've ridden Bennett, Laurel Mtn, Squirrel Gap, Thrift, Sycamore, and Daniel Ridge in Pisgah...what other "must rides" have we missed? We've done Burnt Mtn., Big Rock area of Dupont...any other suggestions? We've also done the right loop at Tsali in the past. Heck, is there a ride not even in these three areas that we've been missing???

    Let us know!!!

    thanks!!
    Hey Fireboy...What weekend are you and your crew headed down there? Me and some friends are going on the weekend of 10-14. Mebby we hook and do a yankee invasion of sorts .

    We have no rides in particular planned, with only Fri, Sat and Sun. to ride were thinking Dupont for sure, possably Bent Creek. Camping at DRCG.

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    We're driving down on the 7th and staying until the 14th. A buddy's parents own a nice pair of cabins on Round Mountain just outside of Brevard. It's our annual "depressurizing" trip.

    Last year's "crue"....
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-U-M
    Just missed the rock stop though.
    Rock stop??? is this more of your off kilter humor???

    Yeah...Laurel was so much FUN at the top (sarcasm inserted here)...hike a biking that 40 lbs. Coiler up those rocks....screw that!!! But the trip back down Pilot fuggin' rocked!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireboy
    We're driving down on the 7th and staying until the 14th. A buddy's parents own a nice pair of cabins on Round Mountain just outside of Brevard. It's our annual "depressurizing" trip.

    Last year's "crue"....

    Bummer dude, alternate weekends. I was going to go down there for the gathering but couldnt get the time off work. We're planning to get down to Jubilee and camp and ride stuff in your area again sometime, maybe hook up with you then.

    Cabins eh..do you think your friends parents might consider renting to 3 or 4 (possably 5) well behaved MTBrs?

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    Last October I visited the area, but only had one day to ride. I linked every waterfall on the dupont map and did a 40+ mile ride including the summit. I had to walk to see one waterfall but all the others were bike accesable. I look forward to going back with MY bike and more time to ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricko

    Cabins eh..do you think your friends parents might consider renting to 3 or 4 (possably 5) well behaved MTBrs?
    Sorry, wish I could help you guys out there. Unfortunately the only way that could happen is for me to be with you guys. And I just don't have enough vacation time to plan two MTB trips and spend time with the wife and kiddies as well. I can check around on the mountain and if I find someone who will accomodate I can send you a message. But most people up there charge alot for their pads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmaus28
    Sorry, wish I could help you guys out there. Unfortunately the only way that could happen is for me to be with you guys. And I just don't have enough vacation time to plan two MTB trips and spend time with the wife and kiddies as well. I can check around on the mountain and if I find someone who will accomodate I can send you a message. But most people up there charge alot for their pads.
    Cool, thanks. I suppose I'l just tow my own cabin (pop up camper) down there like I have in the past. Always looking for alternate lodging options is all .

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    If you're there the 10 through the 14, wouldn't that work??? To meet up, I mean???
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireboy
    If you're there the 10 through the 14, wouldn't that work??? To meet up, I mean???
    Oops, by 10-14 I ment the weekend of Oct. 14.

    Anyway, we'l be arriving around dinnertime/beertime Thursday (the 12th). Planning to ride Fri, Sat, Sunday. Heading back home Monday morning.

    Looks like a possable overlap, maybe we hook up for your last days ride?

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    FB & R: Would you guys just "get a room" already? Sheesh!

    FB: Regardless of what YOU two do, I'll need to plan what day to request off asap. I am not going to use that day for Tsali.



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    consider yourself IM'd

    Gotta double check with doug on the exact "schedule"...I know most of us want to take at least one day off, in the middle of the week, and putz around bald mountain in hiking boots and then go in to Asheville to smell the patchouli and take in the "scenery"...lol. Which will of course include Asheville Pizza and Brewery.
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    Tourist info:

    The pizza & brew folks have a new downtown location. No pizza there but beer, outdoor seating and a gigantic TV. Kind of a groovy hipster crowd.

    If you want to hippie watch, I suggest the outdoor seating at the mellow mushroom. Good beer, table service and large crowd of young hippies for entertainment. And don't miss the weekend drum circle in Pritchard Park.

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    Ok, here goes...Saturday we arrive
    Sunday we ride BC, cause MUM insists
    Monday we ride Pisgah, trail yet to be determined
    Tuesday...day off
    Wedensday we ride Du Pont
    Thursday we ride Pisgah Friday we ride...either on bikes or on the way home.
    Saturday..we ride home..if not Friday
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-U-M
    FB & R: Would you guys just "get a room" already? Sheesh!

    FB: Regardless of what YOU two do, I'll need to plan what day to request off asap. I am not going to use that day for Tsali.



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    Awwww heck, we was gonna ask you to join us for a threesome...a man sandwich if you wanna call it that

    How's about Friday? Looks like the FB gangs last ride day and my gangs first ride day. Possably we come up to your area and ride BC...or you come down by us and ride stuff down there? Come on down and camp and we can drink beer and bay at the moon!

    Our trip itierary is as follows

    Thurs Oct. 12th Arrive at DRCG around dinnertime, possable short night ride

    Fri. Ride

    Sat. Ride

    Sunday. Ride

    Monday. Short Ride.....head home

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    see...and here I thought we were coming home on Sunday....oh well...some of you slackers probably have to go to work on Monday...lol.

    I didn't mention the Mellow Mushroom on last years trip. Joanne and I went there for lunch our very first day in Asheville.....yup....you can definitely hippy watch there.....YIKES.
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    M7– there's something you need understand about these guys:

    Tuesday is like the "make or break day" for the rest of the week. They’ll require food, beer, a broken down chair, low lighting and a bad movie. It keeps the weak ones from crying in their sleep at The Cabin because homesickness has kicked in and they miss the remote control and private bathroom. An open aired street scene involving dreds, tattoos and bouncy things could cause issues. The brief time they spend outside at AP catching second hand American Spirits is probably enough for them.



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    Quote Originally Posted by M-U-M

    You need to come ride with us.

    October is a bit far on the horizon but count me in. Bent creek is totaly redone. Have yall ridden the trace ridge / mills river areas? Trace is an awesome downhill and you can make a whole days riding in that area with spencer branch, fletcher creek and middle fork trails. Only dificulty is there is one deep stream crossing that would be kinda cold in october.

    Another must do downhill is avery creek. Anything on the black mtn trail is memorable. And if you want to go big try Big Creek Trail!

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    M7, I don't think we've been to any of those areas. I don't wanna sound like a tourist....well...I don't know why...cuz I AM ONE....but are those rides in PNF? and if so...where whould I find them on the map...the Nat. Geo. one.

    thanks...TC (FB)

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    Yep they are all in PNF. Trace Ridge, Fletcher Creek, Middle Branch and Spencer Gap Trail, Walsh Creek Road, and Never ending road are a network of trails that are best accessed from the Trace Ridge trailhead parking area. Thats near south mills river campground.

    Avery Creek Trail is near the Horse Stables Most people climb up Clawhammer turn left on Black mtn then turn left on Avery. The Clawhammer climb is quite well know. Kind of a Pisgah right of passage.

    Black mtn is a long trail that goes from cradle of forestry down to the Ranger Station. For me Black mtn is the most difficult trail to ride in that area of Pisgah.

    Big Creek should only be ridden down. There are a few ways to get to the top. They all involve an epic amount of climbing. You can get there by climbing laurel mtn trail and then walking your bike on a not so legal connector. Another way is to climb up the Blue Ridge Parkway.

    PM me when it gets a bit closer and I'd be happy to give you a tour.

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    Cool, sounds like we should not be without plenty of good company.

    Hope we will be able to hook up with ya, M7 and Ricko.

    Only six weeks away and I cannot stand the suspense!!!

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    Too bad you could not have timed your visit diferently. The last weekend in sept is the big Pisgah gathering / campout / riding / howl at the moon party. October 15th the seasonal trails open and some cool routes become leagal. You guys seam to have timed your trip to be right in the middle of these events.

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    Our race series wraps up the last full weekend of September, plus for me personally, my son's birthday is that weekend.

    It definately would be cool to hit that event though.

    We'll have to keep October 15th in mind for future trips.

    For us Federal employees the week of the 7th to the 14th is beneficial due to having Monday off already due to Columbus day. We need to recognize more explorers in my opinion. Hee Hee.

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    We will be in from the Chi town area the weekend of the 15th, what are some of the best seasonal trails to ride? Thanks for the info in advance.

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    Seasonal

    Butter Gap
    Bennet Gap
    North Slope

    Do you know the area? You should get a map and a guidebook. The guidebook will outline the best routes including the seasonal routes. The map will give you the big picture and save you when your lost.

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    Bennett Gap kicked ass last year...we started at the stables I do believe....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas_hudson
    farlow gap to daniel ridge is a must.
    We rode daniel ridge....but I can't tell...by the map exactly where we parked. There was a bridge out that we had to hike a bike over....on some big assed dead fall...I about took a nice trip down the creek when I slipped. I think there were "trail closed due to bridge out" signs...but we (idiot tourists) rode anyway. I was tired...we'd already done sycamore and thrift that day...it was the third "afternoon spin". Lemme see if I can find a picture...

    Oh...and another "touristy" question....I hear "pink beds" is VERY beginnerish...but that it's very scenic...true?? worth a warm up ride on the first day to get the "newbies" oriented? (Last year we dove right in...out of the car and UP the mountain for an hour or so...bout killed a few flatlanders) or possibly an afternoon cool down spin?? OR...maybe Park at Forest Discovery Center and do Club Gap to Black Mountain to Buckhorn to South Mills River (north) then back through the Cradle on Pink Beds??? Or am I dreaming?? We've ridden several of those trails, but can't remember which direction was more feasible.
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    Five more weeks!!!!!!!!!!
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    See, we have no problem keeping ourselves entertained! Of course only one photo actually is proof of one of us handling wood.

    Hey, there's been a slight alteration of plans for the trip. We have decided to take a day off from riding on Wedensday. There will be a cookout/beerfest at the pond with Autie Anne and Uncle Joe on Tuesday nite post ride. Then it's a day on the mountain to do some hiking to some of the falls and possible to lake Jocasse.

    Then for the evening entertainment, we'll head into A'ville for the pizza/movie thingy.

    Hopefully you and G can work that into your schedules as well.

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    Oh and MUM, since you like to study and interpret body language. What does this tell ya?
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    Uhhh... Monkey Butt?


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    Don't forget the camera(s).

    I ride the trails you all speak of 4-5 times/week, year 'round.
    It's really neat seeing them all in the different seasons. I ride
    alot of them even with 3" of snow. I live about 2 miles from
    N. Mills river, so it's practically my backyard to me.

    One thing about Asheville. It's a GAY friendly & weird town compared
    to what made it a nice place to live years ago... If you all can live with that,
    go for it. Brevard is alot nicer to stay/live/eat/whatever than Assville.

    Trace Ridge, Big Creek, Pilot Rock, Slate Rock, Laurel Mtn., heck even the
    "Never Ending Road" are some of my fav's in N. Mills, and Clawhammer, Black Mtn.,
    Twin Falls in Pisgah Nat'l., and even Turkey Pen has some really good riding, but I
    usually do most of my riding there in the summer due to the river X'ings. Most of
    the swing bridges got washed away from the last hurricane. No one appears to want
    to rebuild them either. That trail leads all the way to the original Cradle of Forestry site,
    where the chimney still stands today...
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    GAY friendly....Kurt will fit right in. Not that there's anything wrong with that!! Matter of fact....Ranger Todd is just out of camera range in that photo...ugghh....

    Oh...believe me, we've visited Asheville several times in the past 5 years...we know what kinda clientel wanders the streets. It's more amusing that worrisome. We will be staying about 20 miles out of Brevard on Round Mountain. We love emmaus' parents!!!

    OK...get back on topic....Spencer and Fletcher area...that looks like a good'un.

    Where the heck are Summey Cove and Courthouse Falls??? I saw a mention of those rides somewhere's round this mtb site....

    And what about my previous question concerning Pink Beds??
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    Good thang you guys/gals didn't come this w/e. We've had over 6" of rain in the past 2 days alone....
    MUD is FUN

    I don't know about the 2 trails you mentioned.

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    Okay, I've been readin' the other threads about yellowjackets and other stinging insects out on the trail and I have to ask some of you locals this question.

    Are the bees a little more dormant come the second week of October? Or will they be just as active then as they seem to be now? Last October they weren't even an issue. Most insects were not a problem by that late in the year for us anyway.

    Should we pack some type of medication, if so, what? Fireboy is our resident doctor when injuries are present, so If he is taken out by a swarm of angry bees we will be left to survive on our own.

    We have some ground bees near the pond on the mountain during the summer. But I notice that they are hardly active in October. So I am hoping that that would be the case for all of Pisgah.

    Thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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    Epinephrine Pens.....lot's of epi pens!!!!
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    I've only been stung twice this year.
    I think as long as you keep a fairly fast
    pace, you'll be OK. I got covered by hornets
    on my left arm protector while riding Spencer Branch,
    but that's because I hit a fallen tree with my front tire
    and it shook the huge nest. There was easily over a dozen
    bees on my arm protector, but with one swipe of my "gloved" hand,
    I was able to knock them off. I immediately got away ASAP. One sting
    from that was very lucky.

    A good cold snap should make the bee problems go away fast. It's been
    only in the 70's here for the past two weeks, and rained practically
    everyday (at least in the riding areas where I go).

    The NC Mountain State fair starts today!!!
    Anyone visiting the WNC area should go there.
    It's always alot of fun for my family & me.
    It runs for 2 weeks.

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    25 days....just gotta make it through 25 more days...

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    dont forget

    dont forget a ride at the Arboretum

    http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pb...75/1188/NEWS01

    or a ride at The Biltmore

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    Ugh...Hollis...your NOT helping...lol

    Anyone ever gonna answer my questions about Pink Beds, Summey Cove, or Courthouse Falls???


    C'mon....it's getting down to crunch time!!!

    OH...and we already have a guide and a map....we're good like that.....
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    It's almost time!!!!!
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    Summey Cove is off of NC 215, a coupla few of drainages west of the Davidson. The trail is only accessible by car from NC 215 now - FS road to the other TH is closed due to flooding - but you can make a pretty good loop 215, the closed gravel road to the trailhead, and Summey Cove trail. You'll pass the falls shortly after hitting the trail from the gravel road. Here's a quick Topozone link but check your TI pisgah map or such for better details:
    http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=...ad27&layer=DRG

    And photos:
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