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    New shop in Asheville NC looking for riders for 2013

    Billy Goat bikes will be opening a new store in Asheville NC and we are looking for riders of all disciplines to sponsor for 2013. I wont post a bunch of details here, any interested riders can send an email with a resume to matt@billygoatbikes.com.

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    Cool, what part town? I'll definitely be purchasing some MK's, hate going to Mast General and fighting my way through the tourist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketmatt17 View Post
    riders of all disciplinest
    Even bikepacking?

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    Well, Asheville certainly needs another bike shop. What is it that will set y'all apart?

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    [QUOTE]Cool, what part town? I'll definitely be purchasing some MK's, hate going to Mast General and fighting my way through the tourist./QUOTE]

    Is right by Sams club off Patton Avenue

    [QUOTE]Even bikepacking?/QUOTE]

    Im not sure any of my bikes will fit in a backpack but maybe

    [QUOTE]Well, Asheville certainly needs another bike shop. What is it that will set y'all apart?/QUOTE]

    How about this, We dont have a 5K rent payment and no employees and very low overhead. So what we are selling is: at least a 15% discount, customer service for all types of riders (XC, DH, AM, Road Racing and Cyclocross). O yeah and Devinci bikes with a lifetime warranty

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    How do you have great customer service with no employees?

    Do you have a store in Greenville now?

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    No employees?

    There are shops in Asheville with a better plan. They have employees, but just don't pay them.

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    I think he's referring to the him/owner running the shop with no help = no employees.

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    [QUOTE]I think he's referring to the him/owner running the shop with no help = no employees./QUOTE]

    Bingo, Owners only so helps keep our overhead low so the prices are better. We didnt have a store in Greenville, our race team was based out of GVL until we relocated here. We did have freeride park down towards Columbia about 3 years ago. Im not trying to SPAM this forum with stuff about the shop but we do need to get some riders on bikes in the area. So if your looking for a great deal and great customer service send me an email. matt@billygoatbikes.com

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    Because Asheville needs more bike shops.

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    Like breweries and bbq joints, there always seems to be room for another in WNC

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.F.L. View Post
    Because Asheville needs more bike shops.
    What if it becomes the best shop in Asheville? What if they give you the best service and a bike at the best price? I dont know you or the guy opening the shop, but why take a dig on someone you know nothing about?

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    Everyone has an opinion, Here is my promise: Come to our shop and give us a chance. We guarantee the lowest prices and the best customer service. The research supports another bike shop but we cant win everyone over

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    Haven't taken my bikes to a LBS in two years. Owner/operator shops are the nuts. Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karma 33 View Post
    but why take a dig on someone you know nothing about?
    Because some people never have anything constructive to offer so they "take digs" in order to seek attention.
    They sit behind keyboards taking crap but usually keep their mouth shut when confronted in person.

    Any way you look at it, competition is always good even if there is no need for another shop.
    It breeds better service and possibly better prices and the consumers will always benefit from it.

    rocketmatt, good luck with the new shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Because some people never have anything constructive to offer so they "take digs" in order to seek attention.
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    I like to take digs.....that's why I volunteer my time to work on local trails....booyah!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjanes View Post
    I like to take digs.....that's why I volunteer my time to work on local trails....booyah!!!
    LOL, those types of digs are constructive and help the entire community.

    Good job and thank you.

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    [QUOTEHaven't taken my bikes to a LBS in two years. Owner/operator shops are the nuts. Best of luck.[/QUOTE]

    A lot of people work on their own bikes but they still need and want parts. What if you could buy parts at pricepoint prices but from your local bike shop. Thanks for your support too

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    Congrats Matt. Let me know when you open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjanes View Post
    I like to take digs.....that's why I volunteer my time to work on local trails....booyah!!!
    Wait, sjanes has also recently opened a shop. Time for a shop-off !!!!!

    I bet he is just in it to get kids on bikes !!

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    Seems like you can't look at anything on the net w/o someone trashing, bullying, talking crap to anyone that needs help or is trying to get a small business of the ground, etc.


    pitifull & sad.

    BTW- GOOD LUCK W/ YOUR SHOP !!!!
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    [QUOTE]BTW- GOOD LUCK W/ YOUR SHOP !/QUOTE]

    Thanks !!!

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    Sjanes is obviously part of a much larger conspiracy to get kids into mountain biking to turn them into paying adults which will then feed the other bike shops in WNC. Could he be a an agent for the WNC Bicycle Shop Assoc? He is obviously evil and doing all this for his evil agenda. I blame it all on evil. But he seems to be doing a great job.


    (Of course he is the antithesis of the above post.)
    Should you do more trail work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by man w/ one hand View Post
    Seems like you can't look at anything on the net w/o someone trashing, bullying, talking crap to anyone that needs help or is trying to get a small business of the ground, etc.


    pitifull & sad.

    Unfortunately that is true with just about anything in life.
    There will always be people that will try and bring you down to their level instead of encouraging you.

    Just think how much better the world be if it wasn't for the naysayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bfluid View Post
    Sjanes is obviously part of a much larger conspiracy to get kids into mountain biking to turn them into paying adults which will then feed the other bike shops in WNC. Could he be a an agent for the WNC Bicycle Shop Assoc? He is obviously evil and doing all this for his evil agenda. I blame it all on evil. But he seems to be doing a great job.


    (Of course he is the antithesis of the above post.)
    I don't know what an Antithesis is, but it sounds evil.

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    Umm, hi. I think XC racing and riding is awesome. I am looking to get into racing again after many years of barely racing. I can't wait for this shop to open. What was your email again? The more all mountain / xc, the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bfluid View Post
    Sjanes is obviously part of a much larger conspiracy to get kids into mountain biking to turn them into paying adults which will then feed the other bike shops in WNC.
    craaaaaap......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Barrett Jr View Post
    What was your email again?


    Go back and read the first post.

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    I was being serious.

    Asheville needs many, many, many more bike shops.

    Thanks for being so welcoming of people's opinions...

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    Sounds good rocketmatt. I'll see you when you open. Are you gonna maintain a decent inventory of parts? Like, in the shop, that I can walk in and buy? It always cracks me up when I go into a shop looking for something they don't have and tell me they can order it. He'll I can order it. And for a lot cheaper. I'll be anxious to see what y'all got over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Barrett Jr View Post
    Umm, hi. I think XC racing and riding is awesome. I am looking to get into racing again after many years of barely racing. I can't wait for this shop to open. What was your email again? The more all mountain / xc, the better.

    Tim, You cant be sponsored if you are one of the owners. Always stirring the pot


    [QUOTE]Sounds good rocketmatt. I'll see you when you open. Are you gonna maintain a decent inventory of parts? Like, in the shop, that I can walk in and buy? It always cracks me up when I go into a shop looking for something they don't have and tell me they can order it. He'll I can order it. And for a lot cheaper. I'll be anxious to see what y'all got over there./QUOTE]

    We are going to be in between model years when we first open so the stuff will be sparse until the 2013 stuff arrives but yes we will have actual parts you can come in and buy. We will parts in stock for every type of rider on the MTB side (DH, DS, XC, AM) and we will work into the road and cyclocross stuff over time. We also have a price match guarantee on parts we have to order and unless you own a business and have a distributor account we will be able to match or beat online prices on current model year inventory. So if your looking for Shimano SLX crankset and bb or Avid Elixer brakes, come get them cause will have some in stock (for example). Just curious what type of stuff are you looking for that other shops havent had in the past?

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    Best of luck. Remember every customer is important. Can't stand going into a bikeshop and because u don't look like a xc racer or roadie they act like they could careless about your business. When is your opening date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Unfortunately that is true with just about anything in life.
    There will always be people that will try and bring you down to their level instead of encouraging you.
    Just think how much better the world be if it wasn't for the naysayers.
    If i had listened to those who told me i was crazy when i started drawing up my arm, i would've been sitting on th couch for th last 12 YRS!!!!! Screw them who can't stand to see ANYONE suceed except themselves...
    "Why are you willing to take so much & leave others in need...just because you can?"

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    We wil be open November 1st but the supply in the shop will be limited until the 2013 stuff arrives. We will have a little bit of most stuff until then. But we will have a hang out area with a big flatscreen and xbox and stuff, We want people to feel comfortable enough there to want to come hang out. Thats the way it was back in my moto days. I would just go to talk bikes and thats the feel we want here

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    [QUOTE=rocketmatt17;9763388]Tim, You cant be sponsored if you are one of the owners. Always stirring the pot


    Sounds good rocketmatt. I'll see you when you open. Are you gonna maintain a decent inventory of parts? Like, in the shop, that I can walk in and buy? It always cracks me up when I go into a shop looking for something they don't have and tell me they can order it. He'll I can order it. And for a lot cheaper. I'll be anxious to see what y'all got over there./QUOTE]

    We are going to be in between model years when we first open so the stuff will be sparse until the 2013 stuff arrives but yes we will have actual parts you can come in and buy. We will parts in stock for every type of rider on the MTB side (DH, DS, XC, AM) and we will work into the road and cyclocross stuff over time. We also have a price match guarantee on parts we have to order and unless you own a business and have a distributor account we will be able to match or beat online prices on current model year inventory. So if your looking for Shimano SLX crankset and bb or Avid Elixer brakes, come get them cause will have some in stock (for example). Just curious what type of stuff are you looking for that other shops havent had in the past?
    Over the years, many things. Mavic 819's, hope brake pads, Rampage tires, x9 components, flits saddles, time pedals, all sorts of rebuild kits, ruffian lock on grips, hope hubs, etc... I'm looking forward to seeing your shop. Sounds like you got a niche your filling. So, you'll price match online prices? Sounds awesome. See you soon.

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    Wink Sweet

    I'm kinda looking forward to another shop! Good competition for other shops. Sometimes your LBS jack prices up so much it's crazy! Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketmatt17 View Post
    We wil be open November 1st but the supply in the shop will be limited until the 2013 stuff arrives. We will have a little bit of most stuff until then. But we will have a hang out area with a big flatscreen and xbox and stuff, We want people to feel comfortable enough there to want to come hang out. Thats the way it was back in my moto days. I would just go to talk bikes and thats the feel we want here
    Had an automotive performance shop I used to go to like that when I lived in Mn.
    Also, my buddy opened in door climbing gym in Ga and it is like that.

    That type of atmosphere is always cool and lets the consumer know that you are not just about making a dollar. Look forward to checking out the shop.

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    [QUOTE]So, you'll price match online prices? Sounds awesome. See you soon./QUOTE]

    Yes but we can only do that on current model year stuff. Pricepoint likes to buy leftover items at a discount and discount them even more than the current stuff. I have no access to leftovers. You will be happy with our deals. We are going to be very aggressive. Thanks for all the info. We love hope so we will have their stuff. I have some moto v2 pads now and will be getting some m4

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    [QUOTE=rocketmatt17;9771225]
    So, you'll price match online prices? Sounds awesome. See you soon./QUOTE]

    Yes but we can only do that on current model year stuff. Pricepoint likes to buy leftover items at a discount and discount them even more than the current stuff. I have no access to leftovers. You will be happy with our deals. We are going to be very aggressive. Thanks for all the info. We love hope so we will have their stuff. I have some moto v2 pads now and will be getting some m4
    I don't do a lot of business with pp, but I do with jenson. I think they do the same thing. In all fairness, in regards to to hope disc pads, they're minis. So they're old. But they haven't always been old and the only place I could get them from was Harvey at Backcountry in Pisgsh forest. And I think he kept them on hand for me. It would be nice to source them locally but. It is an odd ball pad.

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    You guys up and running yet? Need some new MK's

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    Great service

    Just replying to last post. Shop is open. Great service....I got 2 tires and a tube. Also found shops Facebook site. Billy Goat Bikes - bike shop Asheville nc

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    Checked the shop out and seems like it's going to be a good shop. Glad to see someone is finally going to stock Norco around here.

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    I stopped by the shop today, introduced myself, and bought some ride essentials. Nice guys, Easy-to-get-to location. Welcome to town, Y'all!
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    Where in Asheville is the shop?
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    yeah, but do they serve beer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjanes View Post
    yeah, but do they serve beer?
    Is it wrong that this has become a priority for me when selecting an LBS?
    Pisgah Area SORBA

    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    ... your idea of technical may be much different than other peoples idea of technical.

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    I pray they all get on board..... I mean really they cover most every thing else ride related, why not beer?

    Make some thing better happen.
    Should you do more trail work?

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    Hahaaa. No, it is not wrong at all. If the city and state would "loosen" up the reigns a bit, charge less than 500$ for the permit and not be so picky, the suds would already be flowing. BUT, we are still one of the coolest shops around. In my humble opinion.

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    Cross over 19/23 interchange, on Patton avenue, second light past Sams gas station entrance. Take a right, little strip mall on right behind Dennys.

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    I think at this point it's pretty much about the service you can give to your customers. Asheville has all but voted and no one wants to pay retail for parts or bikes so you need to win people over with your service. The mark up on parts and bikes is how shops turn a profit and is no different than any other retail formula. The difference is that the industry is too transparent and customers know what businesses are paying for their parts. I think there is some misinformation about margins and markups in this industry. No one beyond maybe one shop in town is making any real money at this. We do it for different reasons but mostly it's because we all like bikes.

    The system is broken and small business owners fight a losing battle w/ price matching sites like Jenson. They have an unfair advantage and you can be sure they are acquiring their product through completely different avenues than a LBS (illegally, semi-illegally, and with large pockets). Manufacturers would love for this to go away as well as it devalues their product but it's hard when there is mass production and so much OEM stuff out there. Don't get me wrong I'm not blaming folks for shopping cheap and online, I'd do the same if I wasn't in the industry at this point but I've spent my hard earned dollar at the shops in the past who gave me good service.

    Good luck with the shop. I plan on checking it out soon as I am a fan of Devinci's line up. Any plans to stock the carbon Dixon? That thing looks sweet!
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    Well put plume. And that is exactly what we want to be the main difference in our shop and others. Good service, good prices and fast turnaround. We do plan to stock the carbon Dixon models. May be a few months I am hearing from Devinci. All others including some Norco bikes will be on the floor at some point as well. Thanks. See you soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Barrett Jr View Post
    Cross over 19/23 interchange, on Patton avenue, second light past Sams gas station entrance. Take a right, little strip mall on right behind Dennys.
    So, very close to Crowne Plaza?

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    Yeh man just down the hill. Went by there the other day and bought some tires for my daughters Mtn bike. They ordered some 20' tires for me and had them in quick. Kenda nevegals. Turn off Patton like your going into the Denny's parking lot and pass it and its there on the right.

    Dixon is a sweet looking ride. If I hadn't just built a yeti I'd be interested. Might be single if I went that route! Hahaha

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    [QUOTE=mbmb65;9772106]
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    . . . the only place I could get them from was Harvey at Backcountry in Pisgsh forest. And I think he kept them on hand for me. . .
    Yep, that would be Harvey. When he owned Backcountry he always had some year(s) old great deals and stocked the all current year components and "must haves". A great mix that is sorely missed in our area. Some of us have to spend our money on rent and groceries!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Barrett Jr View Post
    Hahaaa. No, it is not wrong at all. If the city and state would "loosen" up the reigns a bit, charge less than 500$ for the permit and not be so picky, the suds would already be flowing. BUT, we are still one of the coolest shops around. In my humble opinion.
    Uhm, you could make $500 profit in 1 day of serving beer.

    Properly poured there is 124 16oz beers in a 1/2 barrel keg (that is the large one)
    Cost of a keg depending on what you get averages around $75
    That is a cost of about $.60 per glass.
    Sell 124 beers at $5 per glass you will make your $500 off the first keg
    Have a lot of spillage and only get 100 glasses at a price of $3.50 per glass and you will make $500 in the first 2 kegs.

    Bottle and can profit margin is a little less at about $1-$2 per bottle/can

    Any way you cut it, I guarantee places like the Hub makes their permit fees in a single day.

    You can also be different and serve wine since the same permit that covers beer covers the sale of wine. Many of the women cyclists (and some men) prefer wine over beer.

    Another reason to do it is online shops can't serve beer and wine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Barrett Jr View Post
    Cross over 19/23 interchange, on Patton avenue, second light past Sams gas station entrance. Take a right, little strip mall on right behind Dennys.
    You should give the address. Most people have GPS and everyone has map quest or google maps. People who don't live in Asheville or know the area may not get the driving instructions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    You should give the address. Most people have GPS and everyone has map quest or google maps. People who don't live in Asheville or know the area may not get the driving instructions.
    Google Denny's. it's right behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    Google Denny's. it's right behind it.
    I am familiar with the area, just giving advice that makes it easier for other people to find.
    Including the address with the description would ensure they could find it.

    It used to kill me when I was a contractor, I would ask for somebodies address and have to listen them try to explain how to get to their house for 5 minutes when I asked for was the address so I could punch it in the GPS.

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    Oh, ok.

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    Keg math is off dude. Only keg you are gonna get for $75 is pbr, bud, etc. Craft beer will be upwards of $130 on average and your average pint cost with 7% waste factored in will be anywhere from $1.13-$1.18 per pint. You always factor waste in as it gives you a buffer for your costs and covers some giveaways, spillage, foam beer, etc

    That said the guys at Billy Goat are awesome and helped me out a few weeks ago. Looking forward to giving them some future business as well and wish em the best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Barrett Jr View Post
    Hahaaa. No, it is not wrong at all. If the city and state would "loosen" up the reigns a bit, charge less than 500$ for the permit and not be so picky, the suds would already be flowing. BUT, we are still one of the coolest shops around. In my humble opinion.
    I cannot express to you how cheap that permit is! Make a phone call to liquor control in Massachusetts...tell them you are a bike shop that wants to sell beer....when they get done laughing...ask them what the permit would cost....pick your jaw up off the floor....and then be happy you only pay $500 in Asheville. Depending on the city/town you could be looking at thousands...if not $10K.
    "Big Gulps huh?...Allllriggghhht....Welp, See ya later!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by wncunderground View Post
    Keg math is off dude. Only keg you are gonna get for $75 is pbr, bud, etc. Craft beer will be upwards of $130 on average and your average pint cost with 7% waste factored in will be anywhere from $1.13-$1.18 per pint. You always factor waste in as it gives you a buffer for your costs and covers some giveaways, spillage, foam beer, etc

    That said the guys at Billy Goat are awesome and helped me out a few weeks ago. Looking forward to giving them some future business as well and wish em the best of luck
    Yeah, I am aware that craft beers are a little more but we are still talking huge profits when it sells.
    OK, so the keg costs an extra $50 or even $75.
    Regardless he will still have the permit paid off with the first two kegs.

    I also understand that there is additional costs in equipment starting at $1k for good kegerators but that could easily be paid off soon also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Yeah, I am aware that craft beers are a little more but we are still talking huge profits when it sells.
    OK, so the keg costs an extra $50 or even $75.
    Regardless he will still have the permit paid off with the first two kegs.

    I also understand that there is additional costs in equipment starting at $1k for good kegerators but that could easily be paid off soon also.
    Me thinks you should pay for them to get up and pouring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    Me thinks you should pay for them to get up and pouring.
    Me thinks I would be happy to if I got to keep the profits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Me thinks I would be happy to if I got to keep the profits.
    You could split 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    You could split 'em.
    Sure, if they take the profits from the bike shop and split 'em.

    If I had a bike shop, a $500 permit fee would not stop me from serving beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Sure, if they take the profits from the bike shop and split 'em.

    If I had a bike shop, a $500 permit fee would not stop me from serving beer.
    Maybe you should open a shop?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    Maybe you should open a shop?!?!

    Maybe I should and I could serve beer.

    Would you come if I did?
    Because that would make my day.

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    I reckon I would. I'm a people pleaser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    I reckon I would. I'm a people pleaser.
    That is the word on the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    That is the word on the streets.
    Good to know. You really ought a stay off the streets though.

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    You two should get some lube and a room stat

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    Good to know. You really ought a stay off the streets though.
    Gotta use the streets to get places. Do you have any other suggestions?


    Quote Originally Posted by supercusty View Post
    You two should get some lube and a room stat
    Sounds like you have a fantasy. Please don't include me in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supercusty View Post
    You two should get some lube and a room stat
    I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    I don't get it.
    I think he wants to have sex with us.

    I respectfully decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    I think he wants to have sex with us.

    I respectfully decline.
    You sure it's a he? It acts like a b!tch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbmb65 View Post
    You sure it's a he? It acts like a b!tch.
    That's not a very nice thing to say about somebody that confessed their love to you.

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    I've been told that I hurt the ones that love me most.

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    I believe it

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    We will have beer hopefully soon. The sooner you guys come in and buy something the soner it will happen. The bar area is already built and ready to go. We have paid for this with our own cash so we are trying to make sure we can get the bills covered. Come by and check us out!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketmatt17 View Post
    We will have beer hopefully soon. The sooner you guys come in and buy something the soner it will happen. The bar area is already built and ready to go. We have paid for this with our own cash so we are trying to make sure we can get the bills covered. Come by and check us out!!!
    Word up!

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    Does that mean you won't split the profits with me?

    Looking to get a Rock Shox Reba maybe after the Holidays what can you guys do on that?
    BTW, beer helps me browse and lower my inhibitions to buy.

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    Good riding with you guys today at WC... Ill try to make it out there next weekend...

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