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    Lake Norman State Park-new trail

    The Wildlife loop opened today at LNSP in Troutman NC bringing the total singletrack mileage to 30.5 miles. The trails are great Piedmont NC riding offering trails for all skill levels and the scenery is pretty fantastic too!
    -rides bikes for fun.

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    i truly hope its better than the laurel loop.......

    (not trying to be an a$$....just saw a ton cutesy stuff done and thought the trail was really, really overthought)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsomtb View Post
    i truly hope its better than the laurel loop.......

    (not trying to be an a$$....just saw a ton cutesy stuff done and thought the trail was really, really overthought)
    Nice 1 post in and we have a negativity winner! LNSP is great Piedmont NC riding. For the folks in the Charlotte area its a great local trail. You dont like it, well you have plenty of options elsewhere.
    -rides bikes for fun.

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    We camped at Lake Norman a few weeks ago, and we really enjoyed the riding. The trails make excellent use of the available acreage and terrain features, and were very well maintained. I am glad to hear there are even more miles to ride!

    We have guests from MI in town for Thanksgiving, and we are thinking about adding Lake Norman to our ride schedule, so we don't have to kill them with climbs they are not accustom to riding... plus I am craving Cowfish...
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    ... your idea of technical may be much different than other peoples idea of technical.

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    Jerry68,

    Cool man let me know if you want company I live 20 mins away and love to ride with new people.
    -rides bikes for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    Nice 1 post in and we have a negativity winner! LNSP is great Piedmont NC riding. For the folks in the Charlotte area its a great local trail. You dont like it, well you have plenty of options elsewhere.
    oh yeah, i forgot, freedom of speech and opinion doesn't apply to posts about LKN.

    I beg for forgiveness.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsomtb View Post
    oh yeah, i forgot, freedom of speech and opinion doesn't apply to posts about LKN.

    I beg for forgiveness.........
    Look who's calling the kettle black! Seriously!? Ride what you like but *****ing about what you don't like doesn't do any good and just brings others down. Don't be a square, dig?

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    ton cutesy stuff done and thought the trail was really, really overthought)
    What does that even mean? I haven't been out there and looking to do a day off day trip during the week in December to check out the trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhouskee View Post
    What does that even mean? I haven't been out there and looking to do a day off day trip during the week in December to check out the trails.
    David,

    If you want a tour guide ( not that one is necessary) I would be glad to escort you. I ride there twice a week.
    -rides bikes for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    Nice 1 post in and we have a negativity winner! LNSP is great Piedmont NC riding. For the folks in the Charlotte area its a great local trail. You dont like it, well you have plenty of options elsewhere.
    The world is full of negativity. It is better to just ignore it and keep doing what you are doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by gsomtb View Post
    oh yeah, i forgot, freedom of speech and opinion doesn't apply to posts about LKN.

    I beg for forgiveness.........
    I suppose freedom of speech and opinion also doesn't apply when it comes to responses about your post.

    I am sure robtre will be begging your forgiveness soon.



    It is bad that we have to waste our time putting down people who are trying bring more to the sport. My question is before you spew negativity, what have you done for it?
    I am going to guess not much if you are putting down the efforts of those who are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhouskee View Post
    What does that even mean? I haven't been out there and looking to do a day off day trip during the week in December to check out the trails.
    Cutesy means the back and forth on the fire road that really doesn't accomplish anything.
    Extremely tight squeeze b/t 2 trees towards the beginning - 28" bars barely fit through.
    Waaay too tight turns at the bottom of some pretty nicely flowing stuff. I'm guessing thet were put in to choke speed down.....a big ass log would have been better.
    The straight up the fall line , absolutely stupid steep spots come to mind as well.
    A number of other spots I can't even remember at this point.

    Very disappointing considering how great the other trails out there are.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    The world is full of negativity. It is better to just ignore it and keep doing what you are doing.



    I suppose freedom of speech and opinion also doesn't apply when it comes to responses about your post.

    I am sure robtre will be begging your forgiveness soon.



    It is bad that we have to waste our time putting down people who are trying bring more to the sport. My question is before you spew negativity, what have you done for it?
    I am going to guess not much if you are putting down the efforts of those who are.
    I haven't tried to censor anyone's comments about my post. Fire away - I can defend every word I typed to anyone.

    I didn't put ANYONE down.

    I voiced an opinion about a trail that - in my opinion - was not built very well. The design really wasted a lot of effort in spots, doesn't flow well through most of it, is WAAAAAY too steep in a number of spots and looks like the person who laid it out either didn't know what they were doing or was trying waaaaay too hard to make a trail that was more technical than the rest out there.

    FOR THE RECORD:
    THE REST OF THE TRAILS AT LAKE NORMAN ARE EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE BEST TRAIL BUILDING I'VE EVER SEEN. And I've seen a ton in 25+ years of riding.

    What have I done for the sport?
    Let's see:
    -I've help put on a ton of races
    -Contributed many 100s of hours to trail building and maintenance.
    - Spent hundreds and hundreds of hours teaching and coaching a number of junior racers
    -Spent almost as many hours teaching skills clinics for beginners and ladies
    -Fix dozens of bikes for free
    Is that enough for you?

    Why is that we can give honest opinions about bike shops, bikes and equipment but as soon as something is said about trails everyone gets butt hurt?

    Toughen up a bit guys.......honest opinions are the only way the art of trail building will grow........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt Engineer View Post
    Look who's calling the kettle black! Seriously!? Ride what you like but *****ing about what you don't like doesn't do any good and just brings others down. Don't be a square, dig?
    Honest opinions about the way trails are built are the only way to really move the art forward.

    You dig hommie?

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    Just so everyone reading this thread sees this:

    THE REST OF THE TRAILS AT LAKE NORMAN ARE EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE BEST TRAIL BUILDING I'VE EVER SEEN.
    Whoever laid them out did a wonderful job of getting the absolute best out of what those pieces of land had to offer........

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsomtb View Post

    I didn't put ANYONE down.
    Nobody said you put anyone down nor did anyone put you down.
    It just seemed that you were being negative towards somebodies efforts to do something. If this is not the case, I apologize.

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    I do agree with a few things here. There are a couple tight squeezes that my 28" bars barely fit also. There are a few trees that need to be taken out or re-routes built. The back and forth going up is challenging and could argue pointless but when the trail changes direction in odd years 2013 the back and forth is super fun going down. I like the steep climbs personally I ride single speed so its a do or die situation for me. All together Laurel Loop is my favorite of all and certainly the most challenging.
    -rides bikes for fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    The world is full of negativity. It is better to just ignore it and keep doing what you are doing.



    I suppose freedom of speech and opinion also doesn't apply when it comes to responses about your post.

    I am sure robtre will be begging your forgiveness soon.



    It is bad that we have to waste our time putting down people who are trying bring more to the sport. My question is before you spew negativity, what have you done for it?
    I am going to guess not much if you are putting down the efforts of those who are.
    Just sayin'..........but if you're done, i'm done

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsomtb View Post
    Just sayin'..........but if you're done, i'm done
    Ok, excuse me, I meant putting down the efforts of people of people but it is all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robtre View Post
    David,

    If you want a tour guide ( not that one is necessary) I would be glad to escort you. I ride there twice a week.
    Thanks. Let me get a hold of a couple friends and see what weekday we can arrange. Typically Friday is best so that I can get my work done early. I'd be interested in the whole 30+ mile LNSP Tour.

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    Where is the new trail? How does it ride?

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    Sure there is 30 miles out there but they are the most boring 30 miles on earth. Mombo might be the only fun loop in the whole place. The other guy was right the laurel loop is an abomination in its current direction. You cannot have a bi directional trails system and then build a loop that only rides well in one direction. I drive by LNSP everyday on my way home from work and ride there about 2 times a year. TRBL and those features ....

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    I ride the LNSP trails quite often,,,as I work in Hickory, N.C., live in Newton, N.C., and get to ride during the week either in Hickory or Troutman. Either just after work on a night ride, or on my day off on Tuesday at either LNSP or a trip to Wilkesboro, Boone, or Wilson's Creek. I've been a land manager at a trail system, and know all-to-well how negative criticism solves nothing and raises hard feelings of the volunteers and people who also donate time, money, supplies, tools, etc for the efforts of having "some trails" to ride in your local area. I think the volunteers are doing a geat job! These people are taking time out of their lives to help build, sustain, and promote mountain biking! Kudos to those who volunteer to help build the trails at LNSP, and those that criticize should come out on the volunteer days to "throw some dirt" instead of throwing opinions. IMHO
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    Well said, thanks for sharing your perspective.

    We will have a few miles opening up near your home in Newton soon, and hopefully more of a bike park there if they can find the funding.

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    Sooooo.....
    Like a previous poster inquired, where abouts is the new Wildlife loop in relation to the existing trails? How long is it? A big thanks to all who have contributed to the Lake Norman State Park trail initiative! Can't wait to check it out !


    The longer the ride - the better the pain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cycling_Chick View Post
    Sooooo.....
    Like a previous poster inquired, where abouts is the new Wildlife loop in relation to the existing trails? How long is it?
    The newly opened trails total 8 miles. There is not a parking area for these....access is from the Laurel Loop or on pavement via Wildlife Road (just before the park entrance). The Itusi Trail Map shows the locations and mileages for all of the trails.

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