# Thread: Dupont Epic 9/17/2006

1. ## Dupont Epic 9/17/2006

Anyone that want's to join in on the fun can come along. I rode most of the route that I am going to lead yesterday. I can't divulge all of the details but let's just say we start at Reasonover end up at Holly Mtn loop and somehow eventually end up back at Reasonover. No we don't poach Conservation road either, that's what makes it fun. There will be some SS'ers and some Gearies. If we get enough interest, then we can split into groups accordingly.

Place: Fawn Lake parking area (Reasonover trailhead)
When: 9/17
Time: will post time later

2. Ah, I see you've already posted it. I'm interested and may just plan on making it a weekend in the area.

3. ## Dang that's a ride. . .

Ok for those interested here is the route I am doing. You need the dupont map to follow this through since we all know that there are 4 billion intersections at Dupont. I am using the numbers for simplicity. Let me know if anyone has any suggestions (not that I will take them into account ):

R = Right
L= Left

Yes I can actually ride this loop without looking at the map.

Starting from Fawn Lake trail head:

Clockwise onto: 22
L: 71
R: 18
L: 64
R: 83
L: 62
L: 83
L: Pinnacle Mtn Road
L: 43
L: 7
L: 43 (map is wrong, it shows a right on map)
R: 28
R: 70
R: 90 (first rest stop at falls)
Turn around back up: 90
R: 80
Straight: 33
R: 32
R: 65
L: 45
R: 8
R: Buck Forest Rd
L: 72
L: 59
L: 53
R: 85
R: Cascade Lake rd.
L: 68
L: 54
L: 89
Straight: 19
R: 11 (second trailhead)
R: 19
L: 51
L: 16 (second trailhead)
R: 3
L: 19
R: 75
L: 48
L: 55
L: 1
L: 1 (dirt trail)
R: 73
R: 18
L: 46
R: 64

Back at trailhead, and that is exactly why you need to know where you are going. Could you imagine looking at the map that many times. . .

4. J~
Just to clarify, the 17th is a Sunday. Is that what you had planned or did you mean for the Saturday?

Just curious.

5. Originally Posted by k2biker
J~
Just to clarify, the 17th is a Sunday. Is that what you had planned or did you mean for the Saturday?

Just curious.
Sunday is the day. My boyz from a LBS in Columbia are coming up and it is their only day off . . . Well that and Monday. . . Who does long rides on Mondays

6. I will not let this thread die into the depths until it's time is due.

Whatchyouthinkofthat?

7. Could a lowly flatlander from Charlotte on a 4" travel XC bike tackle this ride or is it strictly for the hardcore?

8. ## "Hardcore"

Originally Posted by jsnk1975
Could a lowly flatlander from Charlotte on a 4" travel XC bike tackle this ride or is it strictly for the hardcore?
I don't believe "hardcore" would be a word associated with anyone that is going to show up

We will have all types out for this ride. It will be a pretty long loop but there will be spots for people to "bail out" or cut off some miles if it starts to be too much for some people.

This will be a fun day in the woods though and there will be a many rest stops.

As far as your bike choice goes. Bring whatever. Myself and another will be riding SS hardtails. Some guys will have full suspension XC rigs.

All are welcome. Round up all the Charlottians you can and come out!

9. This sounds too good to pass up. I am going to try to round a few more people up as well.

10. Originally Posted by jsnk1975
This sounds too good to pass up. I am going to try to round a few more people up as well.

That's what I want to hear!

Keep a lookout and I will post a specific time sometime this week or next. I am guessing sometime around 9:00 since the Columbians will have a 2 1/2 hour drive.

11. How many miles? How much climbing?

12. Originally Posted by Maida7
How many miles? How much climbing?

Ohhhhh sure you want specifics

I am not exactly sure. I have only pieced the ride together from other rides I have done. So my approximation is around 40 miles. Not sure about the climbing. However, after reading about the PAS ride you guys did this past weekend I don't think it will be a problem.

If the conservation road wasn't closed there would be a halfway bailout option. Since this is not true, there is a 3/4 bailout option. However my group rides under W's "no biker left behind policy."

13. ## On a side note

Maybe I can prelude to some other questions.

I am going to stash a large water cooler in the woods around the halfway point so we don't have to worry about overfilled packs and such. I might have to throw in a six pack for good measure. Just in case somebody is cramping and needs carbs

14. OK 40 miles is a very big ride for me. Last weeks PAS group did 13 miles. I tacked on another 11 to make my total 24 for the day. The week before I squeezed out 27 miles. 40 would be like an all time high. Maybe Pisgah climbs are a bit bigger. I'm not real familiar with Dupont so I don't really know. I tempted to give it a try. I just don't want to get in way over my head and be the guy holding everybody back. I have my own DuPont map so I guess I can bail if things start to look bad for me.

15. Originally Posted by Maida7
OK 40 miles is a very big ride for me. Last weeks PAS group did 13 miles. I tacked on another 11 to make my total 24 for the day. The week before I squeezed out 27 miles. 40 would be like an all time high. Maybe Pisgah climbs are a bit bigger. I'm not real familiar with Dupont so I don't really know. I tempted to give it a try. I just don't want to get in way over my head and be the guy holding everybody back. I have my own DuPont map so I guess I can bail if things start to look bad for me.
Pisgah miles are definitely tougher than Dupont miles.

We will be back in the general vicinity of the cars after about 25 miles so that is why I put the bailout option at about 3/4 of the way through. Definitely don't count the ride out due to milage if you are fit and have been doing some decent rides. I will have a map with the route highlighted on it availabe before the ride so everyone can see "what they are getting into". It will be very easy for us to make an alternate shorter loop for those who feel as though they can't make the big loop. That way we can all still ride together most of the time and some can do less milage if need be.

16. Uhhh.. sounds fun, 40 miles is a pretty big number!

How far is Davidson River campground to the trail head? I'm thinking about camping there friday-saturday and then catching this ride in Dupont. Coming in from Atl.

17. Originally Posted by Crazy Legs
Uhhh.. sounds fun, 40 miles is a pretty big number!

How far is Davidson River campground to the trail head? I'm thinking about camping there friday-saturday and then catching this ride in Dupont. Coming in from Atl.
DRC is about 30 minutes from the "Fawn Lake" parking area.

Some of my friends will be staying at Black Forest campground just up the road.

18. Man this sounds fun, I'd like to get in if possible. What time do you think the ride will end?

19. Originally Posted by Crazy Legs
Man this sounds fun, I'd like to get in if possible. What time do you think the ride will end?
Well we won't need to bring lights

I am thinking this will be in the six hour time frame. Just depends on how much BS'n we end up doing.

20. I would join ya , but same weekend as the 24 Hours of Pisgah, you should come out and party with us! always a good time

21. Originally Posted by brado1
I would join ya , but same weekend as the 24 Hours of Pisgah, you should come out and party with us! always a good time
I figured this would be true for many. If I end up camping, I plan on coming over and watching some night laps. I love spectating almost as much as racing!

Good luck or should I say have fun!

22. Great, I plan on being there!

23. Originally Posted by Crazy Legs
Uhhh.. sounds fun, 40 miles is a pretty big number!

How far is Davidson River campground to the trail head? I'm thinking about camping there friday-saturday and then catching this ride in Dupont. Coming in from Atl.
I'm heading up from the ATL as well if you're interested in carpooling. I'm looking to head up Friday and camp at DR -- it's about a 15 minute drive from DR to Dupont, though I need to check where J's got the start point so I know where to meet. For Saturday, I want to ride something in Pisgah -- I just haven't looked at the map yet. I may try another attempt to locate Farlow Gap.....I still it's a figment of everyone's imagination!

Have you already booked a site at DR?

Feel free to PM or drop me an email at cmyrickjr@mindspring.com. Put something about "Dupont MTB" in the subject line so I don't delete it from the spam inbox!

24. Originally Posted by k2biker
I'm heading up from the ATL as well if you're interested in carpooling. I'm looking to head up Friday and camp at DR -- it's about a 15 minute drive from DR to Dupont, though I need to check where J's got the start point so I know where to meet. For Saturday, I want to ride something in Pisgah -- I just haven't looked at the map yet. I may try another attempt to locate Farlow Gap.....I still it's a figment of everyone's imagination!

Have you already booked a site at DR?

Feel free to PM or drop me an email at cmyrickjr@mindspring.com. Put something about "Dupont MTB" in the subject line so I don't delete it from the spam inbox!

I am down for a pisgah ride on Saturday too!!! We can check out the race after the ride with some beers. I got the goods on Farlow gap if you want to go for it. It is not for the faint of heart though.

For Dupont we are parking at the "Fawn Lake" parking area. The southeastern most parking area on the map. www.dupontforest.com

I will post more closer to the time.

Peace out.

25. ## If anyone wants to carpool from Charlotte.....

I was still on the fence about doing the MS 150 this year. This made my decision a little easier. I don't have the extra money for hotels and can't really miss work the following Monday so the MS ride will have to wait until next year. So far there are two or three of us heading up from Charlotte but more riders may be interested once they figure out how Kick A ^\$ this ride is going to be.

I was worried about the milage too. I have done about 28 miles in Dupont before, but 40 miles over 6 hours seemed like a tough haul when you factor in climbing (not sure how tough they will be) and breaks. We are down for it though...if I get in over my head I will fake an injury and ask that a couple of you carry me out

26. Originally Posted by jsnk1975
I was still on the fence about doing the MS 150 this year. This made my decision a little easier. I don't have the extra money for hotels and can't really miss work the following Monday so the MS ride will have to wait until next year. So far there are two or three of us heading up from Charlotte but more riders may be interested once they figure out how Kick A ^\$ this ride is going to be.

I was worried about the milage too. I have done about 28 miles in Dupont before, but 40 miles over 6 hours seemed like a tough haul when you factor in climbing (not sure how tough they will be) and breaks. We are down for it though...if I get in over my head I will fake an injury and ask that a couple of you carry me out
If anyone comes with a pickup we could park a couple cars at one of the other lots in case anyone needs to bail on the last few miles. I don't really think it will be a problem though. As long as people let me know they are tired we can shave off miles for some or send them back to the car via a shorter route.

27. ## I will be there

J.

I am planning on heading up. Let me know if you want to carpool up.

RT

28. I'm out. I've had something come up for Sunday that I can't get out of. Fortunately the day before is the Firewater 50 here in GA so I can still get some big riding in that weekend.

See you at Double Dare!

29. ## Like your thread...

Originally Posted by extrmtao
I will not let this thread die into the depths until it's time is due.

Whatchyouthinkofthat?
The SO and I just took our bikes and fifth wheel and spent the three-day Labor Day weekend at Black Forest CG (spot 708). Got in a ton of riding at DuPont. It drizzled every night but the weather was perfect during the day. Started Saturday morning at Fawn Lake parking lot and had a blast. Parked at Guilon Farm Sunday. Lots of newer really good IMBA-style trails. It also helps that Nancy at BFCG is a board member of Friends of DuPont Forest and is very helpful and very pro-mtb. While there, we made reservations for 9/27 through 10/01. Looking forward to a bunch more riding and also doing the TFfL ride on the 30th. Anyone want to stop for a cool one, we will be in a SandPiper 34', same spot as above...

Anyway, I was trying to follow your map/directions and could not. Our map is circa '04. Is your map more current? Your 40 mile route could be a great warm up on Thursday prior to the TFfL ride on Saturday. Can ya help a brutha out? Although it would be time intensive, perhaps trail names, not numbers, until I get back there and get a more current map?

Michael

30. Guys,

Is 9 still the estimated start time? Sounds like it'll be a great ride.

Lou.

31. ## Triple top-secret information. . . Access denied

Originally Posted by azdrawdy
The SO and I just took our bikes and fifth wheel and spent the three-day Labor Day weekend at Black Forest CG (spot 708). Got in a ton of riding at DuPont. It drizzled every night but the weather was perfect during the day. Started Saturday morning at Fawn Lake parking lot and had a blast. Parked at Guilon Farm Sunday. Lots of newer really good IMBA-style trails. It also helps that Nancy at BFCG is a board member of Friends of DuPont Forest and is very helpful and very pro-mtb. While there, we made reservations for 9/27 through 10/01. Looking forward to a bunch more riding and also doing the TFfL ride on the 30th. Anyone want to stop for a cool one, we will be in a SandPiper 34', same spot as above...

Anyway, I was trying to follow your map/directions and could not. Our map is circa '04. Is your map more current? Your 40 mile route could be a great warm up on Thursday prior to the TFfL ride on Saturday. Can ya help a brutha out? Although it would be time intensive, perhaps trail names, not numbers, until I get back there and get a more current map?

Michael
M,

I would love to help you out but I am on vacation currently and to put all those names down on the map would be waaaaaay more work than I do even on a work day

However if you go to www.dupontforest.com and click on the new map links you should be able to follow my route. If you really want to know than you should come out for the ride.

Peace

32. i'm up in boone, nc and interested in riding sunday. up here i run kenda nevegals 2.1's. can someone recommend a good tire for this weekend?? other options include karma 2.0 and small block 8 1.95's. is it wet and rooty? fast tsali-esque? or typical balls-out pisgah style? sorry for sounding like a gearhead, just want to be ready. thanks.

33. ## I would stick with the Kendas

Just my .02\$, but I would stick with the Kendas, I am probably gonna run the same thing. They are heavy, and slow, but very tacky. Good for the rock.

RT

34. ## Meeting time

Ok everyone here is the skinny for this weekend's rides. People are coming from all over so I have tried to make an agreeable time for everyone. Meet at the trailhead (Fawn Lake access) at 9:00.

I will be up there early to drop off a cooler at the halfway point so that we don't have to worry about running out of water and such. Please come prepared to ride around 40 miles. I will provide some shortcuts for those who don't think they can make the entire distance. I will also be riding Pisgah on Saturday for anyone who is interested. If you need more details or directions to the trailhead etc. email me or post your ? up here and I will do my best to answer it asap. Peace out and everybody come out because this is going to be a good one.

Trailhead: FAWN LAKE ACCESS
Time: September 17th (Sunday) 9:00am
Water drop around 20 miles.

Peace out!

35. ## The ride is on!

If you are interested show up for sure. I will be in the woods the rest of the weekends so I won't be able to answer anymore questions after today. So just show up!

36. SWEET!!!! Sold out by my local riding buds again!!! I might just ride up there by myself but I am pretty ticked off right now. I was planning on doing the MS 150 but settled on this after talking to some friends (all of them have backed out at this point). I am in Charlotte - anyone else coming from this area? I know it is late notice but would much rather not ride all day and then ride back home alone.

37. ## Come On....:)

Ya know you gotta come ride. It is gonna be awesome.

I am even bring the camera, lots of pics of me falling.....

RT

38. I did make a half-hazard attempt but left nowhere near early enough to be at the trailhead by 9:00am.

I hope you guys will post pictures then at least I can see what I missed. I ended up just heading up to Bent Creek later in the day. I did meet Thad (aka. thadthetroll) who was out there riding his fixie!

39. Originally Posted by jsnk1975
I did make a half-hazard attempt but left nowhere near early enough to be at the trailhead by 9:00am.

I hope you guys will post pictures then at least I can see what I missed. I ended up just heading up to Bent Creek later in the day. I did meet Thad (aka. thadthetroll) who was out there riding his fixie!
Wasn't able to get out of work early enough to be there by 9.
Anyone have the numbers to next week's Powerball so I don't have to go through this again?
Post up some ride reviews.

Lou.

40. Originally Posted by upstateSC-rider
Wasn't able to get out of work early enough to be there by 9.
Anyone have the numbers to next week's Powerball so I don't have to go through this again?
Post up some ride reviews.

Lou.
I have a post on my Blog this morning. I will post pics as I get them from others. It was a good time!

41. Originally Posted by extrmtao
I have a post on my Blog this morning. I will post pics as I get them from others. It was a good time!
I apparently missed you at the top of Cedar Rock, where I ran into the Harrell's boys yesterday. I was up with the g/f for a picnic. Had I known you were on the single I'd have hung around to offer encouragement.

What crappy weather, huh?

42. ## Thanks for the Effort

Extrmtao -

Thank for putting the ride together. I had a great time and the people were awesome. Maybe next time I will able to make the entire route.

I am up for any kind of regular ride at DuPont / Pisgah / Bent Creek. I will be at TFFL.

Dave

Many thanks for all the hard work with the tube.

43. Originally Posted by wooglin
I apparently missed you at the top of Cedar Rock, where I ran into the Harrell's boys yesterday. I was up with the g/f for a picnic. Had I known you were on the single I'd have hung around to offer encouragement.

What crappy weather, huh?

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Cedar was at the end of the ride and I was feeling the gear. I could have used some encouragement! Too bad I missed ya. Yah the weather just stinks!

Nice Pics!

44. Originally Posted by David George
Extrmtao -

Thank for putting the ride together. I had a great time and the people were awesome. Maybe next time I will able to make the entire route.

I am up for any kind of regular ride at DuPont / Pisgah / Bent Creek. I will be at TFFL.

Dave

Many thanks for all the hard work with the tube.
Thanks for coming out! I will let you know when and where on future rides. Once everyone gets on the wagon I will try to set something up for a weekly night ride.

See you at TFFL!

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