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    Brad Kee = Pisgah Conquistador

    Ladies and gentlemen, there is a new king in town. He didn't rise through the ranks by birth, He chose to ascend by the strength of his own bare hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    Ladies and gentlemen, there is a new king in town. He didn't rise through the ranks by birth, He chose to ascend by the strength of his own bare hands.

    True.

    I think if you told him to ride around Pisgah until he keeled over and died he might just say "Okay".

    The king is dead.

    Long live the king.

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    Pretty damn impressive, that's for sure
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    unbelievable.

    I wish I had taken a photo of Brad as he passed me like a blast of green air. What I've got is a photo LeAnne took of me later in the day. Pitiful.
    Brad Kee would destroy the KOP if given the chance. There. I said it. When will there be a Faceoff???
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    yep, amazing. I was utterly destroyed by just half his mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pisgahproductions
    Ladies and gentlemen, there is a new king in town. He didn't rise through the ranks by birth, He chose to ascend by the strength of his own bare hands.

    Meh. 22 hours in Pisgah? What's the big deal?

    Good job to everybody who didn't do anything this weekend. Especially to those who
    didn't do really impressive long rides, and to the person who didn't make it happen.

    I didn't have a blast.
    Yeah, it's strange. But oh well.

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    So Fond of Each of Your Faces

    Brad deserves utmost respect for his mental game, his endurance, and his humility. REspect Brad. Much appreciation to the visionaries and designers. Such a pleasure being in unmentionable places with you all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broussard
    Meh. 22 hours in Pisgah? What's the big deal?

    Good job to everybody who didn't do anything this weekend. Especially to those who
    didn't do really impressive long rides, and to the person who didn't make it happen.

    I didn't have a blast.

    I was not chasing your ghost all day.

    I did not think about checking in at Pink Beds for a second time on my way home to try to confuse you.

    I know what I won't be doing next year (seriously).
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    New tattoo

    I just got an "I LOVE Brad" tattoo on my arm.
    "You can make some of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of the people happy all of the time."

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    Post Random Brad Kee FACTS

    The grass is always greener on the other side, unless Brad Kee has been there. In that case the grass is most likely soaked in blood and tears.
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    Hats off to Brad for having the guts and tenacity to complete the course as agreed upon. Farlow killed my mental game 18 hours in (not to mention the chafing associated with 18 hours of Pisgah saddle time).

    Way to go Brad!

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    Mountain Merlin = Queen of Pisgah

    Everything but Farlow in 19 hours. Way to go Cissy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by djcnwriding
    Hats off to Brad for having the guts and tenacity to complete the course as agreed upon. Farlow killed my mental game 18 hours in (not to mention the chafing associated with 18 hours of Pisgah saddle time).

    Way to go Brad!

    I think you could catch him if you would grow some little beards on your calves.
    Yeah, it's strange. But oh well.

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    How many beers did he consume? I think this is his secret!!!

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    where can one view a cue sheet for a bike tour in pisgah that didn't happen? i assume this is a standing challenge to be accepted as it works for individuals. a truly solo attempt would be pretty lonely and big. and yes, a slap on the arse for the big wookie from weaverville.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fattyrerider
    where can one view a cue sheet for a bike tour in pisgah that didn't happen?
    Here you go...


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    BS'ing less, riding more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob
    Here you go...

    oh, thanks. i've graduated from that cue sheet. i just need the directions each trail is supposed to be ridden in. i assume the guide chose well on most of the classic downhills.

    btw, anyone know the vertical gain on the GPS unit that went the farthest? i was thinking the entire tour could be as much as 35K.

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    thanks. that's a pretty good route. the steps on club gap must've been pretty painful for brad in the end--especially with all the leaf drifting in Pisgah this time of year. i hope folks will keep up with their attempts here. sort of like montezuma's revenge: finish it (if you can) in 24 hours. on your honor. hat's off to the hendersonville boy who organized the tour.

    i assume no caching is allowed unless dropped off at the pink beds area post squirrel-s. mills (ie. carried up there by human power only)?

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    Rules such as you describe were not specified. This was a ride, not a race.
    I think any ridiculous caching (i.e- carrying only water bottles and enough food for two-three hours, caches at every road crossing, etc) would be subject to endless internet ridicule and public shaming.

    Honor system rules!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Brown
    Rules such as you describe were not specified. This was a ride, not a race.
    I think any ridiculous caching (i.e- carrying only water bottles and enough food for two-three hours, caches at every road crossing, etc) would be subject to endless internet ridicule and public shaming.

    Honor system rules!
    Sorry. Didn't say anything about a race or caching at "every road crossing". Not sure why you would bring the R-word up. Just suggesting this fixed touring route become just that: a standing solo challenge, self-timed, self-supported, all that entails. No interpersonal competition. Let's not be so quick to castigate on a monday morning. If you reread my post, the question was, is it frowned upon to drop any of your food or water at the pink beds area the first time thru there? Meaning: hump it all up black mtn, across t-pen, squirrel, drop it, use it later. Nothing unethical or non-self-support about that unless tour guidelines frowned upon it. Cheers.

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    Organized, internet-based frowning-upon? That sounds like hard work. Wouldn't it be easier to just put some iodine in your water?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmilyB
    Organized, internet-based frowning-upon? That sounds like hard work. Wouldn't it be easier to just put some iodine in your water?
    EB, re. water, yes, perhaps iodine, but that doesn't help me with my two lunch burritos + bottle of beer or my lights I'd rather not carry over Mt Pisgah if I do not have to. Again, very sorry to be horning in on an upstate tour clique here. Am not intending to make waves, just investigating the tour terms. And yep, IIRC, internet-based was the medium which the 99.9 challenge was extended--and then followed-up, so I assumed the web is as good a place as any to ask. I regret not being there for a group-embark but I would like to tackle this beast solo sometime.

    Did anyone drop their lights and pick them back up later for the 2nd round of night riding?

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    Man, I am very sorry to have missed this bike ride as well. Brad and I were supposed to be partners in crime until I had shock issues late in the prep game. I'm very proud of Kee for suffering thru. I thought he would make it back to camp in under 20hrs but I'm sure the leaves at night took their toll. It would be interesting to see how well people tour the route around Summer Solstice.

    Re. self-support riding and caching, traditionally this only means no caching before you begin your ride. After that, as long as you do it all yourself and do not litter, it is within the general guidelines to drop and pick up later (b/f finishing) ie. finish with all the gear you start with, whether you drop it for periods during your ride or not.

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    Am I right in assuming that you could not do this exact route in the summer, as Bennett would be closed to bikes then?

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    Yes, Bennett is closed then.

    Fatty ---- who cares? You are making this way more serious than it was meant to be but at the same time claiming we are "an upstate clique"? Just get out and RIDE. The true spirit of this ride would be if you just went out, did it alone, and then nonchalantly told us about it a year later. There are no rules; just do what you feel like.

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    i heard lance did it with a full support team.....

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    Terms, rules, cliques

    There are no terms. No rules. Nothing frowned upon. Nothing organized. No traditions.
    No clique.

    The link to the cue sheet is posted. Ride it however you want. Ride it backwards. Add
    a little. Take out a little. Skip one part and do another twice. Leave a car on the route.
    Have a friend meet you. Do it nekkid. Do it in a tutu.

    I dropped my lights and some food at Pink Beds. I got a little good natured crap for it,
    and responded by suggesting that all them haters could suck my.... thumb. And
    then we all laughed and drank some beer.

    Just post up a ride report when you are done telling us what you did, and we will lift a
    glass in your honor.
    Yeah, it's strange. But oh well.

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    There were no rules for the 99. It was not a race, not a group ride, not anything other than what those of us who showed up made it. I encouraged riders to do it self supported but never stated what self supported means. Since it wasn't a race there were no need for rules or guidelines and it was left up to riders as to how they wanted to ride it. Some people might have stashed caches and others might have accepted support while on course. Personally I tried to do it completely self supported. When offered some delicious looking orange slices by some nice hikers late in the day I politely declined and when faced with the opportunity to draft I pulled away. But that is just me and how I wanted to do it. Finishing the route is an accomplishment no matter how it is done.

    If anyone does time trial the route please let me know how it goes for you.

    The mapping software I used for the route shows a 27000' vertical gain. David Cook's computer showed 105 miles when he made it back from Farlow at midnight so we know that the software is not accurate. I'm guessing there were a few more thousand vertical feet that the program missed.

    Like I said the 99 was what the riders who showed up made it and that was a success. We'll do it again sometime. The route will be different but just as much fun. 99 miles of Pisgah, what could be better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikinghawk1
    Am I right in assuming that you could not do this exact route in the summer, as Bennett would be closed to bikes then?
    Good point Alex. I like that Bennett limits it that way. Maybe just before closure in April would good for early season training. Daylight saving time + longer light would be in a rider's favor. Who's in? Kee will commit if Linville isn't running.

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    Drifter, great concept. Very sorry I missed the fun. If we go for it in the Spring, we'll report. Thanks for your efforts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broussard
    I dropped my lights and some food at Pink Beds. I got a little good natured crap for it, and responded by suggesting that all them haters could suck my.... thumb. And then we all laughed and drank some beer.
    Brew, I think as long as you carried all that stuff over the first part of the course (like fatirerider suggested) then it was honorable. Besides, if the ride was about having fun, you were only upping that quotient with a drop. Way to use your noggin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathewsen
    Brew, I think as long as you carried all that stuff over the first part of the course (like fatirerider suggested) then it was honorable. Besides, if the ride was about having fun, you were only upping that quotient with a drop. Way to use your noggin.
    Me, honorable?

    I drove that stuff up to Pink Beds the night before !

    Thanks, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fattyrerider
    where can one view a cue sheet for a bike tour in pisgah that didn't happen? i assume this is a standing challenge to be accepted as it works for individuals. a truly solo attempt would be pretty lonely and big. and yes, a slap on the arse for the big wookie from weaverville.

    It's here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by fattyrerider
    Sorry. Didn't say anything about a race or caching at "every road crossing". Not sure why you would bring the R-word up. Just suggesting this fixed touring route become just that: a standing solo challenge, self-timed, self-supported, all that entails. No interpersonal competition. Let's not be so quick to castigate on a monday morning. If you reread my post, the question was, is it frowned upon to drop any of your food or water at the pink beds area the first time thru there? Meaning: hump it all up black mtn, across t-pen, squirrel, drop it, use it later. Nothing unethical or non-self-support about that unless tour guidelines frowned upon it. Cheers.

    What I meant is there were no rules. To me, that means do whatever you want to. Personally, I'd be less impressed by somebody that did a lot of caching in advance vs. somebody finishing with what they started with. But, I only made it about 1/2 way before quitting because there was a car and beer that I knew was in a place- so, what the hey, I made it far enough for me. There'd be nothing wrong with anything anybody did- if they were trying to "boast" completion, however, I'd expect them to acknowledge the difference. That'd only be being honest. And it would also only still be damn impressive.
    I see no difference between carrying your stuff all the way from start to finish and leaving a stash 1/2 way from what's in your pack for later. That's just smart.
    I also think that one stash like the bsard did makes little if any difference- but that's just me.

    In other words, who cares so long as you're having fun? Not me! So, have fun if you try the route.

    If you want to see a bunch of crazy rule bickering (you know it's gone a little bit wacky, matt), check out the rules thread over in the bikepacking.net forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fattyrerider
    If you reread my post, the question was, is it frowned upon to drop any of your food or water at the pink beds area the first time thru there?
    If you feel comfortable stashing something in the woods for a few hours to get it off your back, I don't think anyone would mind.
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    I believe at least one person found out the hard way that if you stash your lights you risk being caught in the dark before you get back to them.
    I don't think there is a clique, but if there is one, I'm pretty sure I'm not in it. It was a great ride, I was lucky to be a part of it, I'm still thinking about how awesome it was, and someday I hope to finish that sucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmilyB
    I believe at least one person found out the hard way that if you stash your lights you risk being caught in the dark before you get back to them.
    I don't think there is a clique, but if there is one, I'm pretty sure I'm not in it. It was a great ride, I was lucky to be a part of it, I'm still thinking about how awesome it was, and someday I hope to finish that sucker.
    EB, good point on the lights for a night 2. Maybe a cheap p-tec emergency light or something could get one back to Pink Beds. Glad to hear people think a drop is kosher, I could eat a horse after 20+ hours. Sorry about the clique comment. I'm up in Staunton at the base of GWNF where nearly all the trails are open to bikes and the Shenandoah MTB Club is uber-inclusive/proactive, so sometimes things feel more tight-knit/on the DL down in Pisgah. Cheers.

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    I sketched out a route not unlike this one a couple of months ago on a bar napkin. Main difference was it started and finished at Hard Times, and no parkway. Kudos to all who attempted and finished it. Wish I could of joined in the fun.

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    This is just insane! In a good kind of way. For this to take 21hrs+ shows just how incredibly difficult!

    There are a lot of Leadville 100 threads in the forums going on now, and I have to wonder if as many ppl could finish your 99... I don't think so!
    I read that on the internet.

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    I would venture to bet that most people that finish the leadville would be in the fetal position mumbling to themselves in significantly less than 99 miles of Pisgah.

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    stashing stuff, having drops, people meeting you with schtuff, who cares? you and only you, internally know how much of a pus*&%^%*&*)(*y you may or may not be compared to what ever you compare yourself to. it was fun. it was pisgah. it was a long time on the bike. what could be wrong with that?

    i didn't win. i didn't lose. but what's important is that it was fun. there was not a better feeling in the world (not including woman) to me, a lifer, addicted to rolling, mountain biker.

    peace in the woods, on my bike.

    it's fun. then it hurts. then you settle in. then you make peace with the world.
    make peace with your maker.
    then you hit that zen world on two wheels that we all seek.
    just like tanqeray and chronic you know were f(70((&_+_$ $ up now.
    i'm just glad to be here.
    i love to roll.

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