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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkrobe View Post
    Norco is showing their 2014 line to dealers this week in Vancouver. Reviews, specs and pics should be out soon...
    Any update on this? Any info get leaked out?

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    I just posted my review of my Sight Killer B-1
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    I have a shiny new 2014 Sight Alloy 7.1 sitting in my garage waiting for me to take it for a demo ride tomorrow. I've got to say, it's a sweet bike and big step up from old bike. One thing I was surprised about was the weight. I make it out to be about 13.8kg (30.4lbs). But then it's packing a lot of travel, a burly frame and those sweet 650b hoops. I'm meant to be test riding a Stumpjumper 29er next weekend, so the comparison will be interesting.

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    What size frame did you get. I have a large 2013 sight b-3 and it weighs in just over 33 lbs stock.

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    Just got my used b-1 frame in the mail yesterday! Anyone know what the cable guide under the driveside chainstay is for? Looks like the newer frames don't have it.

    I love the frame but the cable routing is pretty terrible. I can see whey they changed it up for 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty904 View Post
    Just got my used b-1 frame in the mail yesterday! Anyone know what the cable guide under the driveside chainstay is for? Looks like the newer frames don't have it.
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    On the 2013 frames its for the Bionicon C-guide. The B1 came with it installed (and possibly the B2) the B3 it was an add on if you wanted it.

    http://bionicon.com/parts/c-guide.html

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    The 2014 Sight 7.1 that I had was a Large. It was on loan as a demo bike. It was a really fun ride. I rode a Specialized Camber today. It's hard to compare the two as they are at different ends of the "trail" segment but in general I found the both rolled over obstacles well. I didn't find the 29er significantly better.

    I found the Sight much easier to launch from jumps and drop offs than the Camber. The extra mass of the Camber's 29" wheels was quite noticeable. The Sight felt pretty easy in comparison.

    In general I felt like I had to muscle the Camber around a lot more than the Sight. Perhaps it was the leverage of the nice wide bars but I never felt like I was fighting with the Sight to get it going where I needed it to.

    The Camber's 29" wheels felt a bit slower to accelerate. Again, I didn't get that sense with the Sight's 650b wheels.

    Comparing Strava times is probably a dodgy way of comparing the two, especially given that today's ride on the Camber was by myself whilst Sunday's ride on the Sight was with a couple of buddies. On the couple the segments that I think there was a fair comparison (continuous section of trail where I didn't have to stop and wait for others to catch up) the Sight was faster. Perhaps it's no coincidence that these segments featured a fair amount of downhill.

    So all in all, whilst I was pleasantly surprised by the Camber, I really liked the Sight. I think if I was looking for a ride at the XC end of the Trail/AM segment then a 29er would probably make a lot of sense. At the gravity end though, the 650b wheels are a great choice.

    My $$$ are (hopefully) going towards a Sight.

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    So I'm working on building up my used B-1 frame and I have a few questions.

    First off, how are people routing the lines for the reverb? The used frame I bought came with one and a ton of slack. Should I take it all the way towards the BB and up the downtube or just route it along the TT?

    Also, I really don't like how the X-shaped guide just wedges the cable against the frame, I also think they look kinda clunky. I'd like to replace them with the other type of guide (the kind that is on the drive side near the headtube.) I don't have a norco dealer but does anyone know where I could get extra guides ot that type?

    What's the little black bolt near the BB on the non-driveside for?

    Finally, I noticed that some of the bolts on my suspension linkages were loose. Anyone have torque specs on those?

    Hopefully I'll have this thing built by friday if my wheelset is ready!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty904 View Post
    So I'm working on building up my used B-1 frame and I have a few questions.

    First off, how are people routing the lines for the reverb? The used frame I bought came with one and a ton of slack. Should I take it all the way towards the BB and up the downtube or just route it along the TT?
    Pictured below is how my LBS routed my Reverb line. They had just got back from a demo day with Norco, and said that is how they were recommending to run the line down the TT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hill-Pumper View Post
    Pictured below is how my LBS routed my Reverb line. They had just got back from a demo day with Norco, and said that is how they were recommending to run the line down the TT.
    Looks clean that way, obviously the guy I bought mine from was running his differently judging by all the slack.

    This guy has his done up internally somehow. Wonder if he did it custom b/c I would love that setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty904 View Post
    Looks clean that way, obviously the guy I bought mine from was running his differently judging by all the slack.

    This guy has his done up internally somehow. Wonder if he did it custom b/c I would love that setup.

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    The original routing from Norco was under the down tube. It might explain the extra length that you have on yours. The bike that you linked has listed a RockShox Reverb Steath internally routed dropper post. He most likely had to drill a couple holes in the frame, but it looks nice and clean.

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    Yeah i may look into getting a stealth dropper post at some point. The less cables/lines i have flopping around the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty904 View Post
    ...What's the little black bolt near the BB on the non-driveside for? ...
    It's a spare derailleur hanger bolt

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    BTW, I don't see a dropper post lever on that sight in the pinkbike classifieds.

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    Just ordered a Sight Carbon 7.2 (preferred the Range, but only available in alloy). Arrive mid November so can't wait!

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    Being local, I spoke to the seller of that Sight with the internally-routed Reverb - definitely an option if you bought the frame used since it's already out of warranty. After a few bad experiences with different RS Reverbs I decided to sell the one that came on my B1 and replaced it with a KS LEV. I first routed it as pictured above along the TT but have since re-routed it down the down tube and up the seattube using the guides. With the fixed cable length of the LEV I don't have to worry about excess cable housing getting caught up on roots/rocks under the BB.

    Loving this bike, will get some pics and the build details up shortly.
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    Sight Killer B anyone?-image3.jpegSight Killer B anyone?-image2.jpegMine's done and I love it so far! Almost all used parts aside from the hope/flow EX wheelset and the take off fox 34. Running 1x10 with a wolftooth direct mount chainring up front. Rear end is super plush but I'm waiting for the fork to catch up, hopefully just needs to be broken in. I really wanted the pike but I got the 34 for $350 so I'm not complaining. I'm looking to find the right tire setup for it. What's everyone running?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty904 View Post
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ID:	838129Mine's done and I love it so far! Almost all used parts aside from the hope/flow EX wheelset and the take off fox 34. Running 1x10 with a wolftooth direct mount chainring up front. Rear end is super plush but I'm waiting for the fork to catch up, hopefully just needs to be broken in. I really wanted the pike but I got the 34 for $350 so I'm not complaining. I'm looking to find the right tire setup for it. What's everyone running?
    Yeah, I know I'm jealous! Nice bike...! Btw, what size frame is that?

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    It's a medium, I think it fits me perfect with super wide bars and a 55mm stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kavika View Post
    Just ordered a Sight Carbon 7.2 (preferred the Range, but only available in alloy). Arrive mid November so can't wait!
    Why couldn't your dealer get the Range Carbon? Not available yet?
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    Carbon Range are not being released in New Zealand or Oz unfortunately. Shipment on the Sight has been put back until March for my order, so have cancelled and going SB-66C instead now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Why couldn't your dealer get the Range Carbon? Not available yet?
    According to my LBS, the carbon Range is not projected to be released until March of 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kavika View Post
    Carbon Range are not being released in New Zealand or Oz unfortunately. Shipment on the Sight has been put back until March for my order, so have cancelled and going SB-66C instead now.
    Whoa, that sucks. I'm waiting on a Sight Alloy. I'm really hoping that they're not delayed until next year too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trained_monkey View Post
    Whoa, that sucks. I'm waiting on a Sight Alloy. I'm really hoping that they're not delayed until next year too.
    They're not delayed in Sydney Australia as I'm getting mine this weekend! =D I've tried the Green/yellow Sight Alloy 7.2 in the shop and that already felt amazing. The Sight Alloy 7.1 will be a blast guaranteed. I will take pictures of it after I get it dirty.

    Although just a question, I've been to 3 LBS and they've all recommended the sight over the range (which I really liked) even being very similar bikes except for the head angle, the travel and the Range being slightly heavier, i think by 2kgs. Would you guys know why? I really wanted the Range but I purchased the Sight 7.1 because If I was gonna be DH orientated, as the Range was designed for, I'd rather buy a proper DH bike and use that.

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    The Range's extra weight, lowered BB, and more plush suspension tuning just make it a little slower, that's all. That being said, I think you could tune a Range to plenty competitive on the right terrain and with the Carbon version get it down to 27lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    The Range's extra weight, lowered BB, and more plush suspension tuning just make it a little slower, that's all. That being said, I think you could tune a Range to plenty competitive on the right terrain and with the Carbon version get it down to 27lbs.
    Ahh, very informative. I'm all new to this Trail Mountain Biking scene coming from riding a fixie since I was in university, but when my mate let me ride his veteran Norco Dawg on a little locally made trail circuit, gotta admit, the thrill of taking the best and fastest line in a leaning angle wondering if you'll clear the corner or eat dirt was all to be loved =]

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    Quote Originally Posted by MangoGino View Post
    They're not delayed in Sydney Australia as I'm getting mine this weekend! =D I've tried the Green/yellow Sight Alloy 7.2 in the shop and that already felt amazing. The Sight Alloy 7.1 will be a blast guaranteed. I will take pictures of it after I get it dirty.
    That's good news. My Sight was supposed to be delivered on Tuesday but now I'm told that delivery has been pushed out to the 25th. I'm in Bris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trained_monkey View Post
    That's good news. My Sight was supposed to be delivered on Tuesday but now I'm told that delivery has been pushed out to the 25th. I'm in Bris.
    Ahh man, I'm pretty sure mine will be delayed too then as my one is probably in the same shipment as yours. I've just had a look at the equivalent previous year model and the 2014 sight 7.1 looks quite weak with this years components, don't you reckon? A lot of deore parts, last year had like SLX/XT parts, even a dropper post seat deest come in the 7.1, you gotta go the carbon way which is like 5k.

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    Sight Killer B anyone?-sight_complete.jpgFinally got my Sight built up exactly how I want it and it feels GREAT on the trails. The leaves are falling and making for some slick conditions so I'm thankful that I replaced the stock Schwalbe Nobby Nics with the grippier Hans Dampf. I found the NN's to be quite lousy tires all-around. I have some riding buddies that rave about them but at least on the rocky trails I ride the most they were squirmy at best (18-20psi).

    Here's my build:

    Frame: 2013 Sight B1, size L
    Fork: 2013 Fox Float 34 160mm (spacing it down to 150mm at next service, and install the 2014 upgrade kit)
    Wheels: Industry Nine Torch classic hubs laced to Pacenti DL31 rims
    Tires: Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35 Trailstar front/back
    Crankset: Race Face Turbine w/30t RF n/w ring and bash
    Brakes: Shimano XT w/icetech pads/rotors
    Shifter/Derailleur: Shimano XT med cage w/clutch
    Seatpost: KS LEV 125mm
    Handlebar: Race Face SIXC cut to 760mm
    Stem: Shimano PRO PLT 80mm 10deg rise
    Saddle: WTB Volt Race
    Pedals: Switching between XT clipless and Nukeproof Proton flats


    Absolutely loving this bike so far. Coming off an Ibis Mojo HD which was a little on the small side for me, and I'm finding the FSR/ART suspension to be more supple on small bumps and generally more active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdotrider View Post
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ID:	839961Finally got my Sight built up exactly how I want it and it feels GREAT on the trails. The leaves are falling and making for some slick conditions so I'm thankful that I replaced the stock Schwalbe Nobby Nics with the grippier Hans Dampf. I found the NN's to be quite lousy tires all-around. I have some riding buddies that rave about them but at least on the rocky trails I ride the most they were squirmy at best (18-20psi).

    Here's my build:

    Frame: 2013 Sight B1, size L
    Fork: 2013 Fox Float 34 160mm (spacing it down to 150mm at next service, and install the 2014 upgrade kit)
    Wheels: Industry Nine Torch classic hubs laced to Pacenti DL31 rims
    Tires: Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2.35 Trailstar front/back
    Crankset: Race Face Turbine w/30t RF n/w ring and bash
    Brakes: Shimano XT w/icetech pads/rotors
    Shifter/Derailleur: Shimano XT med cage w/clutch
    Seatpost: KS LEV 125mm
    Handlebar: Race Face SIXC cut to 760mm
    Stem: Shimano PRO PLT 80mm 10deg rise
    Saddle: WTB Volt Race
    Pedals: Switching between XT clipless and Nukeproof Proton flats


    Absolutely loving this bike so far. Coming off an Ibis Mojo HD which was a little on the small side for me, and I'm finding the FSR/ART suspension to be more supple on small bumps and generally more active.
    Very nice build! It's interesting to see that we have both made some of the same upgrades. I too went with the XT icetech rotors and pads, along with getting rid of the Nobby Nic's. I at some point will be upgrading the wheel set, but have not figured out what exactly what to at this point. Anyway, enjoy your ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MangoGino View Post
    Ahh man, I'm pretty sure mine will be delayed too then as my one is probably in the same shipment as yours. I've just had a look at the equivalent previous year model and the 2014 sight 7.1 looks quite weak with this years components, don't you reckon? A lot of deore parts, last year had like SLX/XT parts, even a dropper post seat deest come in the 7.1, you gotta go the carbon way which is like 5k.
    Just looking at the specs for last years model and you're right - they've downspecced the shifters and the front derailleur from XT/SLX to SLX/Deore. I can't work out if the wheelset is better or worse this year. No dropper post as you mentioned. I wonder if the savings are balanced out by the move to the Fox fork rather than the Revelation.

    I was lucky enough to get a loan of a Sight while I'm waiting for mine to arrive. I took it for a ride on the weekend and was just amazed at how well it rode. I really feel like the Sight makes me a better rider. And the string of Strava PRs (pretty much a PR on every major trail segment) would back that up.

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    Nah, the revelation is still the better suspension than the Float 32 Evo. The version the Sight Alloy 7.1 offers isn't CTD adjustable (unless I'm wrong, the website really lacks info). If you compare it to the competition, even the Trance 27.5 1 from "Giant", It gets smacked pretty bad components wise with all the sight's parts being a lower tier, Giant's components are mostly XT/SLX.. Quite disappointing..

    I'm super annoyed because I put down $500 deposit on a Merida One-Forty XT for $2500 in a Medium and when it came, it was too big for me so I wanted to go with the Small but Merida didn't have anymore in stock, so either buy another bike from them, or lose my deposit. They only carry Norco, Merida and Cube and the Sight Alloy 7.1 was the best I can get, they also cut it to $3350 so I went with it, knowing it's probably the crappest in it's price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MangoGino View Post
    Nah, the revelation is still the better suspension than the Float 32 Evo. The version the Sight Alloy 7.1 offers isn't CTD adjustable (unless I'm wrong, the website really lacks info).
    I can confirm that the fork does is indeed CTD adjustable. At least the one of the demo bike certainly is. I read a review comparing the Revelation to the Float CTD and it seems that the Revelation is cheaper but not necessarily better.

    I was really looking for a bike with Horst link suspension having ridden a Specialized FSR for the last 9 years so I ruled out the likes of Giant et al.

    I think you'll be happy with the Sight once you get it. I've really enjoyed riding the one I have on loan. I test rode a Specialized Camber before committing to the Sight. I realise the Camber is more XC oriented than the Sight, but the Sight was so much nicer to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trained_monkey View Post
    I can confirm that the fork does is indeed CTD adjustable. At least the one of the demo bike certainly is.

    I think you'll be happy with the Sight once you get it. I realise the Camber is more XC oriented than the Sight, but the Sight was so much nicer to ride.
    Thanks for confirming that!! It wasn't listed in the Norco website, but I've just had a look at FOX's website and they are CTD!! It does display the CTD version's are white though on Fox's website, the Norco picture displays black ones, hopefully they are the same only in black.

    I was already happy with the Sight Alloy 7.2, very sure the 7.1 will be super! I think the reason why the sight is more expensive is because of the frame design, a lot of industrial design has gone into it. From articles, it seems like even with lower end parts, it already competes with higher end bikes. Just wish they kept the SLX/XT parts like last year.

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    From Saturday. 2014 Sight 7.1 Alloy.

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    AHHH I'm so jealous bro. I don't get mine till next Wednesday. It looks mad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusty904 View Post
    It's a medium, I think it fits me perfect with super wide bars and a 55mm stem.
    rusty904:

    Now if you don't mind me asking, how tall are you? I'm trying to get an idea of which frame size to go with (small or medium). The nearest NORCO dealer is 2hrs away, and trying to find time to drive up there to demo (and size) a SIGHT will be somewhat difficult.

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    I am 5'5" and have a med, so glad I didn't go with a small

    Now if you don't mind me asking, how tall are you? I'm trying to get an idea of which frame size to go with (small or medium). The nearest NORCO dealer is 2hrs away, and trying to find time to drive up there to demo (and size) a SIGHT will be somewhat difficult.[/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by synnie View Post
    I am 5'5" and have a med, so glad I didn't go with a small

    Now if you don't mind me asking, how tall are you? I'm trying to get an idea of which frame size to go with (small or medium). The nearest NORCO dealer is 2hrs away, and trying to find time to drive up there to demo (and size) a SIGHT will be somewhat difficult.
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    synnie,

    Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it.

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    I'm about 5'10"/5'11". I may have been able to go with a large but I got a decent deal on a used medium frame. I think because of the fairly long top tube it fits me well.

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    Mine arrived today! I noticed there's a hole in the seat tube on the bottom half facing the front. Is that a hole for a dropper seatpost? So you can feed the wire internally?

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    Sight Killer B anyone?

    Any chance you can post a pic?


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    https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3usgx8b04...102_175329.jpg

    There you go bro. You can zoom in to the bike and you'll notice there's a hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by MangoGino View Post
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3usgx8b04...102_175329.jpg

    There you go bro. You can zoom in to the bike and you'll notice there's a hole
    Awesome pic, dude! And yeah, if you zoom the pic, you can totally see the hole where the dropper-post line is fed through. Anyway, congrats on your new bike...!

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    Thanks mate. Will install a reverb stealth on it tomorrow then. It's amazing this thing!

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    Yesterday I just put down a $1500 deposit on a Sight Carbon LE FS. I'm swapping out the 140mm Revelation RCT3 for a 150mm Pike. For tires I'm going with a Nobby Nic rear with Hans Dampf front.

    ETA is early spring.

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    Hey guys. I'm on the fence on size, and have found a Large that I may be picking up next week. I'm 5'11" w/ typically a 30" inseam, avg. torso length, and currently ride a size Large Specialized 29" HT that fits comfortably. I've always ridden size large, but I've read the Sight seems to have a fairly long top tube. The available bike currently has a 70mm stem. I won't be able to give it a test ride until late next week. Any thoughts from those that own them today? Is it a good bet I'll be ok on a Large, or should I look for a Medium.

    Thanks for any feedback you can provide!

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    You'll be absolutely fine on a large, may want to go for a shorter stem but otherwise I think you'll find the fit quite good with ample standover. I think the geo is quite 'regular' when it comes to sizing.
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    Thanks for the quick reply tdotrider, and the confirmation. I'm really stoked about this bike, as it appears to be exactly what I'm looking for to get back onto FS. I turned 40, and things that didn't hurt before, are now presenting themselves:-). Trying to attach a picture here of the bike that I am 99% sure I will be purchasing. Looking forward to it!
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    Nice build with the DB Air and i9 wheels, i say go for it

    I've noticed that several 2013 Sights have come up for sale on Pinkbike, most ads mentioning that they're selling to buy the carbon 2014 model...I know a handful of guys at my LBS that are doing the same, all were very happy with their 2013's
    ride, eat, sleep, repeat

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