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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKY View Post

    Fanatyk Co. in Whistler Village had XTR equipped demos last year.
    Thanks for the heads up I'll check them out for sure

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    I'm 6'2"-6'4" depending on the day you measure me (( ))
    From my own experience, I'd recommend getting the XL. I have a Large Norco Fluid V4 sitting around and it's a little tiny for me for certain. Getting a stiffer spring in the fork will probably be a good idea. I have the same spring in my fork, but at 180-190 something pounds-again, depending on the day you weigh me, and I have even considered going for a stiffer spring for when I'm riding more park oriented stuff. The Lyrik comes standard with a medium and the recommended weight on it is something like 150-190, to my recollection and mildly decent memory.

    And in general, you don't want your suspension to sag about a bunch. Standard sag limits seem to be %20 on both the fork and rear shock.

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    Just put a 35mm stem on my Range. Climbing doesn't seem to be compromised even doing an XC race on it. Drops seem to have me more centered on the bike now

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    From what I've been told (and in my experience), you need to make sure you're setting up the ART suspension at the proper sag for it to have the trail compliance Norco designed the bike for. If you go outside of the sag measurements, performance tends to not be as great.

    Too much sag, and the bike bottoms out easily (despite having a bottom out resistance such as on the DHX), and too little sag, and you'll rarely use full-travel.

    My experience is that the ranges like to be bang on 25%, the Truax around 27%, and the Sight around 22-23%.

    In playing around with my Truax (and my wife's Vixa, and a buddy's Range), it's incredible the difference just that couple mm's difference in sag can make, going from a bike that bottoms out very easily, to one that has no small bump compliance. It's interesting to see how sensitive the ART is to this.

    So, make sure the sag is set to what Norco recommends for the bike. Otherwise, you're not going to have very good performance.

    Also, make sure your front matches your rear for sag. Otherwise, it'll offset the balance in the suspension and make things react to bumps differently which can disrupt the stability of the bike.

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    I had problems with a rear shock that finally got replaced my RS just about a month ago and in that time I got very comfortable with adjusting the sag on my Range 3. However, the 2011 Range 3 does not have ART suspension. All the same, it still effects it quite severely. Wish I had a buddy with a Truax to play around with from time to time.

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    What problems did you have? Out of curiousity...

    And yeah, the Range 3 doesn't have ART, but the overall suspension curve is fairly similar (ART just gets a bit more rear-ward arc I think...)

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    Not long after getting the bike, I noticed that I was loosing pressure in the rear shock. The LBS told me it was fine, but I finally got it sent in two months later. After a month long turn-around, I got the shock back-and RS did a basic rebuild on the seals and said nothing was wrong with it anyways. Got it, rode it, noticed it was leaking, another month long turn-around for them to tell me it was fine again after they did another seal rebuild. Still leaking, and months later-I finally talked to them on the phone after dealing with their, "we only deal with registered retailers" bull for a number of calls before finally speaking to a manager. Then they misplaced my information and claimed I never gave it to them in the first place (shock serial number, measurements, et cetera) and so a month after that I finally got them to send me out a monarch RT3, replacing my Monarch R. during the first year of owning my bike, 1/4 of it was spent not riding it because of the shock being out and the other 3/4 were less than favorable riding involving bringing a shock pump with me wherever I went riding. Basically, **** RS- but aside from that, the Range is a great bike. I thought all of them had ART and went on riding the bike for the first months believing it did-so it was no biggy later

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    Interesting. We had a problem with my wife's Vixa which came with a Monarch R. Although we weren't losing air pressure, the rebound tune on the shock was WAYYYY off for the bike (despite it being marketed as having a Vixa specific rebound tune). Basically, what was happening, was that in order to get the 25% sag on it for my wife's weight (she's about 140 lbs all kitted up), it would be running super low pressure, which gave it almost no rebound (it would take nearly a full second, sometimes a little more to extend fully, even on the fastest setting). I talked to a few different people, including Norco, and it all came down to it being the incorrect tune for my wife's weight. Knowing turn-around times, and that chances are, the problem wouldn't be fixed, I never sent it away, but instead running a higher sag and get mediocre rebound.

    I am tempted to go to a Fox Float RP, but I am not sure it if would solve the problem.

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    I would try the turn around time. It may save you money. Unless you have more money than time, of course. In my situation, I had more time than money. I didn't expect this problem when I ordered a number of upgrades on my bike and because I didn't account for that expense, I went through my initial budget and didn't feel like pushing the investment further. So it goes though, the RT3 is working comfortably. I think I am going to write RS and Norco about this issue, RS was especially terrible.

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    picked up a medium range (i'm 5'9") to be my do it all bike. have started the mods, a cromag stem and fubar bars. chain guide is next as well as the one brakes as soon as the adapters comes in.

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    Yeah dude I upgraded my Range so much that it is hardly a Range 3 now.

    X0 drivetrain
    XTR M988 Trail brakes w/ice-tech rotors
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    purelycustom stemp cap
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    and WTB Freeride front wheel and a Loco rear.
    Planning on picking up a Chromag stem soon too. I like the Canadian gear and the companies have been super friendly: thanks to both Straitline and Chromag for being great and Norco for having the sweet bike.

    How are you liking your ride?

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    pretty good, took it out for a spin today dialing everything in, sunday will take it to the bike park (blue).
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    Nice, what length is that stem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    Nice, what length is that stem?
    50mm



    bike is working well



    though will change out the seat, don't like it... pinches my nuts

    also ordered this in from black spire to retain the chain

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    I changed my seat before I went on my first real ride, definitely a good idea. your build is looking great

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    got the chain guide on. will up grade the brakes to ones for the weekend as well as a sram 9 10spd rear shifter. also trying to get an i9 rear hub conversion kit (142-12) for a
    i9 135mm wheelset i scored

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    Nice dude, I love all the changes I've done on my own Range. It's a sweet bike. We're going to have to get some rider shots on the bike soon, I haven't seen pics of anyone really pushing the limits of the Range. I was having a lot of fun today riding.

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    my backyard jump is coming along nicely

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    <object width='500' height='375'><param name='allowFullScreen' value='true' /><param name='allowScriptAccess' value='always' /><param name='movie' value='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/265517/l/' /><embed src='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/265517/l/' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='500' height='375' allowFullScreen='true' allowScriptAccess='always'></embed></object><p><a href='http://www.pinkbike.com/video/265517/'>riding the norco range</a> on <a href='http://www.pinkbike.com'>Pinkbike</a></p>
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    latest upgrades... chris king headset



    160mm rotor, dh brakes



    the bike how it sits now...



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    Nice dude. I'm getting a chromag hifi in silver soon. I'd like a king headset, but I might wait to so wheels first. What kind of brakes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    Nice dude. I'm getting a chromag hifi in silver soon. I'd like a king headset, but I might wait to so wheels first. What kind of brakes?
    nice

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    light for dh brakes, lots of power, post mount, cobbled together well in a 180 front and 160 back on the range

    i'm trying to convert a wheelset for 12-142 rear... will post pics up once i'm done.
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    Been following this thread, good stuff on here. I leave to boot camp in a month, however a local shop has a 2011 range 3 listed for $1693. I'm debating on if I should haggle with them on the price and try to get them down to $1500, or just wait till I get back and go for a 2012 which will be on clearance by then? Everyone's input is greatly appreciated.

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    I would wait until the 2012 is on clearance. Getting a 2011 Range 3 at $1,500 USD would be great, but the 2012 Range 3 has ART suspension and a Syntace rear axle, something the 2011 model doesn't have. I have the 2011 and I ride it hard and love it. It performs fantastically, but having the Syntace rear axle and the ART suspension would be cool and worth the wait. However, I'm not so sure about some of the components that come on the 2012 model. I feel like you may end up wanting different brakes and possibly a different rear shock on it. I have already changed out most of my components though on my 2011. There are a lot of great mods you can do to the Lyrik R fork it comes with, so keep that in mind.

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    thanks ehigh. I for sure do like that fact that norco added the ART, bash guard and the syntace on the 12. They should of just put that stuff on the 11 to begin with! I'll try and hold out, im really wanting to ride before i'm in 8 weeks of hell getting yelled at to do pushups ha ha.

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    Argh just couldn't wait. I'm making a two hour drive and picking up a new 11' range 3. I'll post some pics as soon as I can. Pretty stoked to be able to ride for a month before the military owns me.

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    Yeah man I love my range. The syntace systems are cool, but people have ripped trails on quick release axles for a long time. The rear suspension on my bike feels dialed now. Beware of the Monarch R though, I hated mine and had it warrantied enough times until RS finally sent me a new shock. I'm at UBI in Ashland now, but when I'm back I'm going to tune my fork with a new damper and shims. Just got my chromag Hifi stem. 60 grams heavier than the Ranger stem singlesprocket got, but I was looking for a wider bar clamp. Fun bike to get dialed, everyone I know who has upgraded their range hasn't regretted having to buy more components. It just becomes clear its very user friendly. Lighter wheels, shorter bars and lighter stem, a 120mm fork, I'd have a tight trail bike. For now, its aggressive AM, and I guess I freeride when those trails are around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxrcr222 View Post
    Argh just couldn't wait. I'm making a two hour drive and picking up a new 11' range 3. I'll post some pics as soon as I can. Pretty stoked to be able to ride for a month before the military owns me.
    Seeing you're from OR, where was the 2hr drive to? I know Joy Ride here in Lacey WA has one and I'm wondering if you scooped it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxrcr222 View Post
    Been following this thread, good stuff on here. I leave to boot camp in a month, however a local shop has a 2011 range 3 listed for $1693. I'm debating on if I should haggle with them on the price and try to get them down to $1500, or just wait till I get back and go for a 2012 which will be on clearance by then? Everyone's input is greatly appreciated.
    wait and get the 2012...

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    Love your range dude, looks great. Did a ride with the new hifi stem today, love the 50mm. handled incredibly well on some fantastic new trails. Versatile bike, looking at a CCDB air

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    Any thoughts on the dampening and set up of the rear shock on the new Ranges?

    The reason I ask is when I demoed one I thought the rear suspension was a little stiff, but being a demo I didn't know if it was the due to the built in dampening of the shock or simply over inflated with air for my weight.

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    I would say that it was over-inflated for your weight. The ART design is fairly progressive I believe, and generally feels pretty bottomless when set-up right.

    I would re-demo one, and make sure that you set the sag properly (around 25% for the Ranges). The ART design relies on being set-up properly, as I find that when it's out of adjustment, it's not a great feeling system.

    I have used both a shock with bottom out and one with a pre-set, and I find that the ability to adjust the bottom out really allows you to play with the sag and still get a good feeling system. Although, I've spoken with someone who rode a DHX Air on his range, and he hated it, and said the RP23 was a much better feeling shock... so, to each their own I guess.

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    Yes the range has a progressive, or non linear, suspension system. While coil could work, air with the correct sag is ideal. Shame to the shop that didn't set that up for you when testing an expensive bike. They should seriously jump on helping people out with things of the sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    Love your range dude, looks great. Did a ride with the new hifi stem today, love the 50mm. handled incredibly well on some fantastic new trails. Versatile bike, looking at a CCDB air
    it is the real sleeper bike of the year... you can upgrade in so many ways.
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    Seriously. I admire all the different styles people have approached. Seen a good number around Ashland. Pretty cool bike. Mine got a lot of love.

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    I've been browsing this forum for years but decided to sign up as I just bought my first full suspension bike, 2011 norco range 3. I absolutely love it. I feel like I've been wasting my time on a hard tail these past 6 years lol.

    I have a question though. For those of you with the range 3 and rockshox lyric/monarch R, what do you guys set the rebound at? I'm having troubles finding the right setting, especially for the rear. Front I have it set to 11 clicks from fastest setting and rear I just set it in the middle as I can't get a feel for it. I'm 5'6 and weight 150 lbs. I mainly do trails and freeriding and I'll be doing some downhill at whistler bike park.

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    I just played with mine for a while. I'm 6'3" and probably 200 pounds geared up on an XL frame so my specs would be arbitrary information. I run 200 pounds of pressure in the rear shock and kept it a couple clicks from slowest of slow. I'm not on a monarch RT3, the R was warrantied a couple months ago. Just toggle with it a little. Set your sag accordingly and figure the rebound from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehigh View Post
    I just played with mine for a while. I'm 6'3" and probably 200 pounds geared up on an XL frame so my specs would be arbitrary information. I run 200 pounds of pressure in the rear shock and kept it a couple clicks from slowest of slow. I'm not on a monarch RT3, the R was warrantied a couple months ago. Just toggle with it a little. Set your sag accordingly and figure the rebound from there.
    Ya I set my sag first to 25%. I find that the rebound isn't very responsive. It feels different at full fast and full slow but everything inbetween feels the same. Is it because of my weight? I did the curb test and even with the reboudn set to full fast I only get one bounce.

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    I'd shoot for 20% sag. You are a little bit lighter, but nothing that requires a high volume air can. It wasn't the most noticeable adjustment, but I find that switching it up helped me track a little better in technical and fast cornering.

    let's see some shots of you on your ride!

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    I'll give %20 a try. Thank you for the help! No pictues yet, I'm still a newb lol. I'll be going to whistler bike park ina few weeks, I'll get some pictures then.

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    Always a beginner. When I first started I was doing tiny stuff, and still- 30 feet of air is still small for a lot of boys.

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    I ran 25% of sag, sometimes 30% when things are really rowdy. Rebound is ~12 clicks FFC, and in the middle for the rp23. Rebound is really a personnal thing... I love this bike :

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    nice set up.
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    nice rig, any rider shots?

    I have a number of parts that I could swap for lighter access, but I never get around to it.

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    I've now riden my range enough to start modding it. So far here's what I added:

    -azonic barretta 50mm stem blue
    -v sixty pedals
    -chromag trailmaster seat
    -specialized lock on grips
    -x fusion hydraulic post (it will be here on wed)


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    Sweet range. You've got a 2011 range 3 like me, which doesn't have ART and is a 135mm. Today I ordered an ART rear triangle and linkage with 142mm rear. Just so you know the option is out there. Costing $375. Won't be a color match, ano silver.

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    $375 isn't bad at all. I'm not picky about how my bike looks, anodized silver might actually look pretty cool though. Is it worth it to get ART? Defintiley post a picture when you get it and let me know how it rides.

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    I can't say for certain as I haven't taken a range equipped with Art for a long ride. I'll definitely change out my rear triangle as soon as I get it. It should be hear next Friday. I'm going to guess that the different axle size will have a positive effect as well. I'll be sure to talk of the differences here. I've been riding my range 3 for over a year now so I'll definitely pick out the differences between the FSR and ART. With the X0 drivetrain, XTR brakes, and everything else, my range won't be much of a 3 after this.

    I also look forward to the color swap.
    Edit:
    For what its worth, a properly set up rear shock with FSR is still a great platform. I'm excited about ART, but don't have huge expectations. I'll be sure to be critical of their claim with how the change in axle path effects the ride. Norco is a company I love, but any claim is a claim until tested. The 142mm rear put me over on the decision. There should be an inherent firmness to the rear end with that alone. I'm also considering a monarch plus rc3 from push, but that may be a little down the road.
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