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    What Air9

    I currently ride the 2012 Hydro Alum. One9 SS which is really great from all aspects.
    Very nimble, confidence inspiring and not too harsh for my back.
    My possible future (next year) bike will be an Air9. (probably will replace my C'dale Flash29 Carbon)
    Coveting the Kermit green...
    Not sure If I should get the Air Alum, The Carbon or the RDO ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpyElite2010 View Post
    I currently ride the 2012 Hydro Alum. One9 SS which is really great from all aspects.
    Very nimble, confidence inspiring and not too harsh for my back.
    My possible future (next year) bike will be an Air9. (probably will replace my C'dale Flash29 Carbon)
    Coveting the Kermit green...
    Not sure If I should get the Air Alum, The Carbon or the RDO ???
    You need to give a bit more information about what you want to use the bike for.

    To be controversial I will say if you are not racing buy a last years model SIR 9 in Niner Green. I have one set up SS rigid and it is a great bike. Same Niner geometry as the Air 9. This is the comfort over weight choice.

    If you are racing go the Air 9 RDO. Its the only Air 9 model currently available in Niner Green, albeit two tone with black. I am assuming money is no object.

    My personal choice if I was to ever justify replacing my raw scandium Air 9 would be the Air 9 carbon in black and white. It can be run geared or SS. However I don't race and the scandium is light enough and fast enough for all my riding.

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    Thanks.
    I raced this year on my Flash, but not sure If I will race next year
    ...but I am still racing against myself every ride...
    Damn Strava to hell...

    Weight is more important to me than comfort.
    As I mentioned in my OP, I am pretty comfortable on the Hydro One9.
    So I don't think Steel frame is in my future.

    What do you think of the Alum. One 9 compared to the carbon Frame. ?
    Money is always an issue, but I rather spend more than regret it later.

    The Alum frame retail at about $900 (1605 gr),
    Air carbon at $1900 (1455 gr)
    Air RDO at $2100.(1190 gr)

    So if Carbon, I might as well go with the RDO (almost 1lb weight reduction compared to the Alum.)
    Does the difference between the carbon ride quality and the Alum worth a $1000-$1300?
    Last edited by StumpyElite2010; 07-21-2012 at 05:51 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpyElite2010 View Post
    Thanks.
    I raced this year on my Flash, but not sure If I will race next one
    ...but I am still racing against myself every ride...
    Damn Strava to hell...

    Weight is more important to me than comfort.
    As I mentioned in my OP, I am pretty comfortable on the Hydro One9.
    So I don't think Steel frame is in my future.

    What do you think of the Alum. One 9 compared to the carbon Frame. ?
    Money is always an issue, but I rather spend more than regret it later.
    I haven't ridden either so best not to comment. I have only ridden the scandium Air 9.

    I think carbon is great for road bikes and racing mountain bikes. It looks good, rides good and is light. If you can afford it go for it.

    I have twice resisted the opportunity to upgrade my scandium Air 9 to carbon when second hand frames/bikes have come up on ebay. I just can't justify the cost for the small performance gains.

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    The A9C is much more of a rocket than the scandium. Haven't ridden the new hydro aluminum so can't comment there. I do feel like the A9C is an advantage for me, BUT....I can point to more than one guy that is faster on his scandium or aluminum bike than I am on my A9C. I'm a geared only guy so if I were to do it over again I would go with the green and black RDO though.

    Curious what's wrong with the Flash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by riding29 View Post

    Curious what's wrong with the Flash?
    The Niner is much more stable, confidence inspiring and nimble in tight DH switchbacks.
    From some reason, I don't have the same feeling on the Flash.
    I don't know if that's the culprit of the Lefty compressing too much.
    In the last races, while doing a great job on climbing and flat areas sprinting, I lost quite a few points on the DH. I also almost crashed a few times...
    On the Niner I definitely feeling much confident, faster and safer on the DH...
    (my front fork is the RS SID RL 29 - works great, but I want to experiment with Rigid fork)
    Both bikes has tubeless 2.25 Schwalbe RaRas mounted on Stan's ZTR rims.
    Weight is almost the same, Handlebar same width.
    Geometry is pretty close.
    So the only real difference is the Lefty...
    Maybe I should experiment with adding more PSI and making it stiffer.
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    I was on a Scandium Air 9 that I built up last year - after much deliberations between the Carbon and Scandium... I chose the Scandium based on the price factor. It was/is an awesome bike for sure, but at the bike show this year I started to get thoughts of upgrading to the carbon. I chatted with a non so LBS and for the $200 difference between the RDO and Carbon I just with the weight difference it was a no brainer choice.

    Every ride now on the RDO, I say to myself "Self, damn this is a fine bike!" no regrets at all. faster, smoother, more responsive... just like they say, but also not cheap.

    Honestly, I'd test ride them all if you can, or at least the Alu and the Carbon (whichever one) and then decide.

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