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    Dave Trumpore used a shot of my WFO 9 in his 2012 Year Review Slideshow on Pinkbike. Nice!

    Life Lesson? If you're way too slow to be pro, wear bright colors to get in pics. Lol.

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    Who says WFOs are overkill for trail riding?!!

    Who says WFO9s are overkill for normal trails?? I built this up over Christmas and have been enjoying it on all the semi-technical trails around my area. Longest ride so far was 25 miles with lots of short steep climbs and this thing just eats them up. 28lbs as is.
    Some of the build highlights: Fox 34 Float, RS Monarch RT3, 2x10 XO carbon cranks, Stans Arch w/Hope Evo hubs & (tubeless), XTR trail brakes, and so on. This thing replaced a Trek Rumblefish and I have no regrets. Climbs better than the Trek could ever hope to.
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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/91694861@N00/8430421932/" title="DropInWFO by hukee, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8211/8430421932_2e26e57e1a_b.jpg" width="1024" height="698" alt="DropInWFO"></a>
    Practice Loop - Slickrock - Late 2011 ©MichaelDarter


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    From the Colorado Freeride Festival Enduro. All pics by Vast Action. (vastaction.com)

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    Stage 1 - Chainless DH - Search and Seizure ©VastAction

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    Stage1 - Chainless DH - Boulevard ©VastAction

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    Stage 3 - Rain Maker ©VastAction

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    Stage 4 - No Quarter ©VastAction

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    Stage 4 - Boot Camp ©VastAction


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    2012 large WFO. 33+ pounds.

    X9 drivetrain
    2012 Fox 34 Talas (replaced Reba)
    Blacklite post w/Kind Shock remote (less obtrusive)
    Stan's Flows with Stan's hubs
    Blackspire Stinger 2X chain guide
    Formula RX brakes w/185 rotors

    I plan to do a couple enduro races on it, and I'm taking it to Peru in a few months.
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    Forgive the ever-so-slightly off-topic post... reply to earlier request for photos of the pumptrack and bonus photo of the Pumpjet.

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    That is awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMH View Post
    Forgive the ever-so-slightly off-topic post... reply to earlier request for photos of the pumptrack and bonus photo of the Pumpjet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH View Post
    This was a great race, if you have the chance it's well worth it. WFO was a bit much for the pedally stages but was great in the DH and jump line stages.

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    Very cool pics JMH!

    Can you elaborate more on what you mean by "bit much on the pedally stages"?

    I'm still debating on whether to buy the WFO or Yeti SB66. I already have a jet9 RDO and absolutely love it for XC racing and medium/light trail riding. However I want something that's more capable on technical downhill /rocky terrain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racinghk View Post
    Very cool pics JMH!

    Can you elaborate more on what you mean by "bit much on the pedally stages"?

    I'm still debating on whether to buy the WFO or Yeti SB66. I already have a jet9 RDO and absolutely love it for XC racing and medium/light trail riding. However I want something that's more capable on technical downhill /rocky terrain.
    The first two stages used sections of the Trestle DH trail, the WFO was confidence-inspiring and fast. The next two stages were more "park" oriented with jump trails and flatter pedaling portions. The guys on lighter bikes with less suspension were probably a bit quicker there, although the WFO was a heck of a lot of fun. The WFO is also a great Whistler bike where the Jet would be a bit terrifying (I have one of those too and I like it but it would simply be outmatched for lift-assisted riding at most parks). The WFO is going to be similar to the Yeti SB95 (another awesome bike) and in my opinion both will be faster for you than the SB66.

    My WFO is a Medium where I normally ride a Large Niner for a more efficient XC fit. I think if my WFO were a large it would be more comfortable for long rides but perhaps not as fun on the jump trails? Hard to say. One of my riding buddies uses his WFO as his "do it all" bike when he doesn't ride his Tallboy. He claims the WFO pedals better than his Tallboy, but that he obviously notices the extra pounds when he's climbing.

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    EKT shredding at the Photo Spot, Thunder Thunder Thunder Mountain
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH View Post
    The first two stages used sections of the Trestle DH trail, the WFO was confidence-inspiring and fast. The next two stages were more "park" oriented with jump trails and flatter pedaling portions. The guys on lighter bikes with less suspension were probably a bit quicker there, although the WFO was a heck of a lot of fun. The WFO is also a great Whistler bike where the Jet would be a bit terrifying (I have one of those too and I like it but it would simply be outmatched for lift-assisted riding at most parks). The WFO is going to be similar to the Yeti SB95 (another awesome bike) and in my opinion both will be faster for you than the SB66.

    My WFO is a Medium where I normally ride a Large Niner for a more efficient XC fit. I think if my WFO were a large it would be more comfortable for long rides but perhaps not as fun on the jump trails? Hard to say. One of my riding buddies uses his WFO as his "do it all" bike when he doesn't ride his Tallboy. He claims the WFO pedals better than his Tallboy, but that he obviously notices the extra pounds when he's climbing.

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    How tall are you?
    I'm 6'0", I currently ride a Giant AnthemX29er, size large.
    I'm running a 70mm stem and uncut RaceFace Atlus bars.
    I've heard that the Rip and WFO run a bit larger in size than say my AX29.
    So the med may be the correct size for me.? Keep in mind I like the short stem/wide bars feel and handeling.
    Thanks for any feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy V View Post
    How tall are you?
    I'm 6'0", I currently ride a Giant AnthemX29er, size large.
    I'm running a 70mm stem and uncut RaceFace Atlus bars.
    I've heard that the Rip and WFO run a bit larger in size than say my AX29.
    So the med may be the correct size for me.? Keep in mind I like the short stem/wide bars feel and handeling.
    Thanks for any feedback.
    i'm 6'3" on a Med WFO, 50mm stem, 780mm bars.. it rides like an AM 26er on steroids..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalSpine View Post
    i'm 6'3" on a Med WFO, 50mm stem, 780mm bars.. it rides like an AM 26er on steroids..
    Thank you, this is good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy V View Post
    How tall are you?
    I'm 6'0", I currently ride a Giant AnthemX29er, size large.
    I'm running a 70mm stem and uncut RaceFace Atlus bars.
    I've heard that the Rip and WFO run a bit larger in size than say my AX29.
    So the med may be the correct size for me.? Keep in mind I like the short stem/wide bars feel and handeling.
    Thanks for any feedback.
    6' tall, long inseam. WFO is a Medium with 50mm stem and 780mm Raceface SIXC DH bars. My "XC" fit is typically a Large frame with a 60mm or 70mm stem.
    I have a 6'4" friend on a Large WFO with a 70mm stem and 780mm bars. 6'3" on a Medium sounds extremely unusual, but personal preference trumps all.

    You are right on the line between M and L. Check out the REACH and STACK of the two frames compared to your Anthem X, that's where you are going to get the best idea of how the two brands translate. Top tube lengths can get you close, but simply changing fork height or any number of tiny things can change reach significantly.

    If you're keeping the Giant and building up the WFO as another bike, then I say get the Medium for sure and turn it into a shuttle/lift bike like mine. If you plan to use it for everything, then M vs L is obviously a much bigger concern.

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    [QUOTE=JMH;10188886]6' tall, long inseam. WFO is a Medium with 50mm stem and 780mm Raceface SIXC DH bars. My "XC" fit is typically a Large frame with a 60mm or 70mm stem.
    I have a 6'4" friend on a Large WFO with a 70mm stem and 780mm bars. 6'3" on a Medium sounds extremely unusual, but personal preference trumps all.

    You are right on the line between M and L. Check out the REACH and STACK of the two frames compared to your Anthem X, that's where you are going to get the best idea of how the two brands translate. Top tube lengths can get you close, but simply changing fork height or any number of tiny things can change reach significantly.

    If you're keeping the Giant and building up the WFO as another bike, then I say get the Medium for sure and turn it into a shuttle/lift bike like mine. If you plan to use it for everything, then M vs L is obviously a much bigger concern.

    JMH[/QUOTE
    Thank you.
    I will try to get up close and personal with a lg or a med to see for myself.
    But in Oklahoma a WFO will be hard to get close to. Do you know how similar the Rip and WFO are?

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    [/QUOTE Do you know how similar the Rip and WFO are?[/QUOTE]

    If you get a chance to ride a RIP 9, the fit is pretty much identical. You can compare the few Geo differences on the niner site!

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    With a 140 fork, the WFO has a steeper seat angle. The cockpit will be a little shorter. This is one of the reasons I switched over to a WFO. FYI, I am 6'1", 34" inseam, and ride a large with 50-70mm stems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH View Post
    [/QUOTE Do you know how similar the Rip and WFO are?
    If you get a chance to ride a RIP 9, the fit is pretty much identical. You can compare the few Geo differences on the niner site![/QUOTE]

    I made a few mods to my WFO over winter.
    I shortened the fork to ~100mm and ran road tyres. That thing FLEW. I even took it riding with road clubs and could easily keep up. It felt like a fast XC bike. Today I MTB'd it up, dorado back at full length.
    The whole geometry of the bike changed from feeling like an XC to a full on downhill machine. Weird thing though, it still peddled like an xc bike.

    This frame is brilliant, the build is what pins it to it riding style!

    Even managed to impress some teenage boys with a huck. Any rider who doesn't get a little smile when that happens is lying.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    this was my first day on my WFO 9 last summer. i've since put a double barrel on it but she rides amazing.

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    Version 3.0

    So I got sick of riding a 40+lb WFO and decided to lighten her up. Replaced the Dorado and Elka with a CCDB air tuned for her and a 2012 fox 34
    Talas with new 2014 Fox Float 150mm internals, along with a cartridge for a clyde. Put in XX1 drivetrain and I had to machine a new axle for the
    150mm Hope hub. Hadley hasn't made an xx1 conversion yet so I had to make this build work by using my backup wheel, an old Hope pro2 150mm.
    We just made the axle thicker, from 15mm to 17mm on the cassette side like the new Hope evo hub and added a Hope xx1 freehub which was already
    out. Had to machine out the xx1 quick release to 12mm to fit the maxle and get a bigger diameter spacer for the bearing as well. I never did get to
    take a pic of it, just threw it in the wheel because I had to know if it worked. Also the axle is made form 4041 steel and weights 150g alone.

    Went form 41lbs to 34lbs and thats with the heavier wheel and very heavy wtb Dissents with tubes. When the Minnion dhf's come out I'll be setting
    them up tubless and by swapping out the wheels when Hadley gets the conversion done. With that maybe get to save another pound or 2. Also put
    on some xtr trail brakes which are amazing! The rock plate from coyote is great and got to use it a lot so far.

    3 rides on her so far and it is the most impressive version so far for me. The suspension is super plush and the xx1 is just as quiet and responsive as I
    could have ever expected. Super fun to ride and much easier to throw around after the weight loss.

    -Nolan
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    were are all WFO 9s?

    That Hadley driver is the last thing my buddy is waiting on for his Chilcotin build, and they've been telling him "another week or two" since the end of February. He probably would have just bought another wheelset by now if they'd given him a realistic estimate at any point.

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    evasive: they have been telling me the same thing and I call them every week. I get this week, next week and in 2 weeks every time I call. Just tell me that your not going to have them done and give me a realistic date. Oh well. For me to build a new wheel in 150mm would be too expensive with a I9 or DT when I already have a Hope and Hadley built up, so to machine a new axle and buy the free hub was a much cheaper option and now I'll eventually have a backup.

    I'd like to say that the CCDB air may be the best rear shock I've ever used. The ability to absorb high speed hits is unreal. I used cane creeks base tune from the lounge and it seems dead on!

    -Nolan

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    Niner sent me a new shock for my WFO,

    One of these

    Monarch Plus RC3 | SRAM

    As I already have a shock I really like for this bike, is anyone interested?

    It is a HUGE upgrade from the RP23, not worth it if you have a manitou ISX6.

    Very similar to the ISX6, but the ISX matches better with a Dorado (same damper). This would probably match a fox/RS fork better.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    wfo

    Had mine for a couple of months and im loving it so far, waiting for new rs pike to come out but shouldnt be too long now.
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    Makes for a nice pit bike around Laguna Seca ;-)

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    My WFO

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    My first build, finished a couple weeks ago. Love it so far, but need to do some serious work to the shock or find a new one, as I can't seem to make it feel good over fast rough sections.

    140mm RS revelation dual air
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    bontrager mustang rims,
    aceface deus crank
    wolftooth components chainring, no guide
    Zee derailleur, saint shifter
    740 mm flat bar
    SLX brakes
    Deity compound pedals
    Currently using hans dampf front, panaracer rampage rear

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    WFO + Dorado

    quick question to those with a Manitou Dorado on their WFO9's..

    i am looking to replace my Fox 34 Float with a 2013 Dorado.. it is to my understanding from the Manitou website that the 2013 Dorado released a 29er specific fork..? or just adjust the travel from 203mm to 175mm to fit a 29" wheel?

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    The Dorado is available in a 29er version already adjusted to 175 mm travel. I purchased a new one last year and it is a great fork.

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    thanks.. but would the 2013 Dorado 26er version fit just fine? just adjust the travel?

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    When I was checking it out it seemed like the 26er version went from 200 mm to 180 mm. I was buying new so I got the 29er version which was advertised as 175 mm. I don't know what the difference is. Perhaps a quick call to Manitou would clear it up.

    I just got back from a 17 mile loop ride this morning with my WFO/Dorado which was 3,000 vertical up and 3,000 vertical down. The combination of bike and fork is great, especially in the chunk.

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    Broken WFO

    I just snapped the rear triangle of my gen1 WFO and this was only fourth summer for this frame.

    Riding I normally do is not so extreme and my riding weight is around 200lbs. Only few park days per summer and the rest is just normal trail riding with lots of rocks and roots we have here in Finland.

    I will probably try to get it welded even though it might not last so long after that. I have already asked the price for the replacement rear triangle but it will probably be so high that it would be better to buy a new frame instead (might not be a Niner due to short warranty periods for the alu frames). I really considered that this frame would last a bit longer...


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    Hi Mme,

    I would not worry too much, Niner has very good customer service.

    As for the replacement parts cost, it might not be as much as you expect.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    Hi Mme,

    I would not worry too much, Niner has very good customer service.

    As for the replacement parts cost, it might not be as much as you expect.
    Hopefully I'll be positively surprised. I just need to wait for the response. Maybe I now have time to rebuild the Marzocchi fork that is leaking both air and oil (I just put new seals before starting this season).

    In a meantime I'll ride my old 26er Inbred with even older Fox Vanilla. That combo is always working like a dream

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    I got the price for the new rear triangle and I was not positively surprised at all. 499€ (~660$) without shipping :madman

    I'll try get it welded but I do not believe it will last long. This was probably my first and last Niner...

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    Hey WFO owners,
    I visited my first bike park the other weekend, and I'd like to do some more, but I'm not keen on spending €€ on renting a (shitty) bike every time I want to ride there.
    Since I just bought a 29er ht this summer as my first bike, I'd rather not spend a large sum again to buy a complete new full suspension so I was looking around for 29er full suspension frames that are fit for riding downhill and bike parks. The WFO seems to be the only 29er full suspension I found that matches those requirements, what are your experiences with it?
    Since I'm only a beginner I don't think I need the most burly bike out there? What are the limits of a bike like the WFO?
    I've got a Shimano Zee derailleur and brakes, Chromag OSX bars, Flow rims on my current ht, so I think they are fit for transferring to a park bike, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfuse View Post
    Hey WFO owners,
    I visited my first bike park the other weekend, and I'd like to do some more, but I'm not keen on spending €€ on renting a (shitty) bike every time I want to ride there.
    Since I just bought a 29er ht this summer as my first bike, I'd rather not spend a large sum again to buy a complete new full suspension so I was looking around for 29er full suspension frames that are fit for riding downhill and bike parks. The WFO seems to be the only 29er full suspension I found that matches those requirements, what are your experiences with it?
    Since I'm only a beginner I don't think I need the most burly bike out there? What are the limits of a bike like the WFO?
    I've got a Shimano Zee derailleur and brakes, Chromag OSX bars, Flow rims on my current ht, so I think they are fit for transferring to a park bike, no?
    Wfo is a good bike for what you want, It comes dow to how much money you want to spend.

    If you can spend the money for a New 160mm Pike fork I would get the new WFO.

    But if the cost of that is a bit steep for you then I would go for the X Fusion Trace 140mm & try & pike up the 2012 WFO with a little less travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfuse View Post
    Hey WFO owners,
    I visited my first bike park the other weekend, and I'd like to do some more, but I'm not keen on spending €€ on renting a (shitty) bike every time I want to ride there.
    Since I just bought a 29er ht this summer as my first bike, I'd rather not spend a large sum again to buy a complete new full suspension so I was looking around for 29er full suspension frames that are fit for riding downhill and bike parks. The WFO seems to be the only 29er full suspension I found that matches those requirements, what are your experiences with it?
    Since I'm only a beginner I don't think I need the most burly bike out there? What are the limits of a bike like the WFO?
    I've got a Shimano Zee derailleur and brakes, Chromag OSX bars, Flow rims on my current ht, so I think they are fit for transferring to a park bike, no?
    There are more frames that will do it than just the WFO. There's the Lenz Lunchbox, Lenz PB&J, Specialized Enduro 29er, BMC Trailfox, Nicolai, Trek Remedy 29er and a few others with decent travel.

    Out of those, the Specialized and BMC have similar geometry with normal-sized chainstays, low-ish BBs, and my Enduro 29er rips at the ski-resort. I don't feel like I'm flighting the bike on the way down at all. It also rides great as an all-around bike. I wanted a bike that handles great, not like a truck. I notice this mostly at high-speeds and in high-speed turns/features. Turning a bike at slow speed is easy, but once you get momentum and acceleration forks working against you, that's where there's a difference IMO.

    The old WFO was an obtuse confused thing, heavy, with 140mm of travel and the ultra-long chainstays, it wasn't exactly sure what it was doing, but the new WFO seems to be at least a little more targeted, if not still a little long (IMO 29ers are already more stable, they don't need to be more more stable by being excessively long).

    The Lenz PB&J is probably the "most" DH bike out of all of these, with 7" of travel. It's a monster though. I love jumping my Enduro.

    If you are looking to do this on the cheap, I'd look for a used Lenz Lunchbox (I know of a small being sold, but she probably wants to sell the entire thing and not just the frame). The lunchbox is a good compromise of necessary features.
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    Thanks for the feedback.
    I run a Rockshox Revelation RCT3 Dual Air 140 atm on my Honzo, I'd like to reuse it but am not sure if 140 is enough travel in a bike park.
    I also would like the bike to be still usable for short xc stuff, we don't really have mountains in my area so climbs are always very short, but bike park-ability is priority n°1.

    I'll take a look at the other frames that were mentioned, I prefer not to buy Specialized or Trek (no real reason, I prefer supporting smaller brands and I don't like their color schemes).

    I'm 6'5" so a small isn't gonna cut it for me plus I live in Europe

    Not looking to troll, but one of my biggest concerns is if 29 rims are up to the task? Haven't seen any so far in our bike park (which is very small, about 40 riders on a busy day so not much comparison).

    edit: I just found out I'm gonna be dad of twins, so this will probably be a long-term project

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    Yeah I think the WFO is still the best contender. You can't run the new frame with a 140mm fork I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfuse View Post

    I'll take a look at the other frames that were mentioned, I prefer not to buy Specialized or Trek (no real reason, I prefer supporting smaller brands and I don't like their color schemes).
    I don't see any other 29ers at our ski resort. There are plenty of 29ers that I wouldn't mind doing a descent on out on trails, but I'd only ride my Enduro or that BMC at the ski resort downhill, due to their geometry. After riding it, it's obvious that it's intended to do that kind of stuff.
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    I checked the Specialized but it seems you can get only the carbon frame as frame-only, which is way to expensive, for that price I can buy a complete TR250.
    The BMC looked okay, also pricey though, and the reviews didn't seem to be as positive as for the WFO.
    You'd only ride your enduro or a bmc in the park, but do you also own a WFO or are you a lurker here just like me?

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    "The old WFO was an obtuse confused thing, heavy, with 140mm of travel and the ultra-long chainstays, it wasn't exactly sure what it was doing"

    What a load of "£$"£&"%

    My WFO was more than just OK when downhilling in the alps, it was amazing.
    It was exceptionally nimble and fast. The chainstays are a nice length, and 140 is not that different from 150! I can see why that guy loves his enduro, but the WFO is a stunning bike.

    If you are swapping yourself to a do everything bike, the WFO is great and I've only got one of those 1st gen ones (the one's that weigh only about 1lb more than the RIP9).

    The fork will probably hold you back if you are a big guy like me.
    There is no real point going for a strong frame with a weaker fork.

    With a pike (or an old modified dorado) up front, you will find yourself taking DHers quite easily.

    The Rev might be up for it, but i'm not sure. I have one sitting behind me, but not tried it on my bike yet.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    I'm not a big guy, I may be 1.96 (6'5") but I only weigh 90kg (200lbs). But won't the geometry be influenced in a bad way with a shorter fork? Steeper head tube angle?
    What rims do you have (had) on your WFO?
    Indeed, one do everything bike (I still have a Dialled Holeshot for some dj and pump stuff) would be awesome.

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    dfuse - We rode our last gen WFO test bike on some pretty heavy lines and it just killed. It actually went down (at speed) almost every line at Whistler for that matter and was a blast. I finally broke the headset on a hard landing on Crabapple but whatever, those are big ass jumps. I also raced it at the Winter Park enduro with great results. The frame and all it's dangly bits held up fine.

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    I take my WFO to Highlands 2 times a month and have had no problems there. I don't hit the bigger stuff because my riding ability isn't there yet but I do hit the rest of it and the WFO handles it quite well. That being said I think the new WFO will be much more fun at a DH park than the previous version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Err View Post
    dfuse - We rode our last gen WFO test bike on some pretty heavy lines and it just killed. It actually went down (at speed) almost every line at Whistler for that matter and was a blast. I finally broke the headset on a hard landing on Crabapple but whatever, those are big ass jumps. I also raced it at the Winter Park enduro with great results. The frame and all it's dangly bits held up fine.

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    That's the one review (there seem to be only a few) that I keep re-watching and re-reading

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    The fact they have an xl size for my 6'5" is also a big advantage. My back hurt a week after riding the medium rental Solid M9.

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    CCDB Air mounting on WFO

    Was the orientation of the CCDB air the only way it would work on the frame? Did the Air can not fit at the bottom due to the seat tube ? Thanks for the pictures.


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    I've made a few changes since that pic....new Fox Fork..CCDBair, new wheels, Schwalbe Hans Dampf tires.......great riding rig.



    I've gotta say...the thing climbs like a billy goat....





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    The CCDB coil nor Air will not fit the other way around(right side up).

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveGiant View Post
    "The old WFO was an obtuse confused thing, heavy, with 140mm of travel and the ultra-long chainstays, it wasn't exactly sure what it was doing"

    What a load of "£$"£&"%

    My WFO was more than just OK when downhilling in the alps, it was amazing.
    It was exceptionally nimble and fast. The chainstays are a nice length, and 140 is not that different from 150! I can see why that guy loves his enduro, but the WFO is a stunning bike.
    Please tell me why anyone would need 18" chainstays on a 29er. This is like saying we should go to 58° head tube angles.

    29ers are already more stable than 26ers due to the gyroscopic action. Why do they need to be more more stable? Most downhill bikes have around 17.3" stays, the new WFO is at least in that range, but the original was just obtuse and confused. 140 is not terrible, but I wouldn't match it with a 160 fork, then you start to get the ends feeling quite different. I've never believed 29ers rode "like they have more travel", they may roll over stuff easier IF you can hold on, much as if you had more travel, but that doesn't=control that more suspension gives you and it's more of a "if you can possibly hold on" type thing. The WFO at least got out there and had more travel for a couple years until a few others got on the scene, but it was a trickle-seller due in part to it's wacky geometry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    Please tell me why anyone would need 18" chainstays on a 29er.
    Ah, that statement says quite a bit.

    You are aware this is a hobby right, this is all voluntary. No-one is forcing us at gunpoint to do it.
    Therefore there is no "need" for anything apart from structural integrity.

    Something is either more fun, or not.

    As for saying 10mm of travel and 15mm more chainstay is going to make a huge difference, it's not. I'm also impressed that you can notice the difference between 2mm of stay length between the WFOs.

    How you have the suspension setup will affect ride quality more.

    I happen to really like the WFO and how it rides.
    It is fast and nimble, corners amazingly and I have no trouble holding on.

    As for the 'weird' geometry, it only looks weird if you are used to 26" numbers. It works.

    You seem to write like you have read a ton of 26 vs 29 articles, but haven't ridden that many. Which would be a little strange, don't you own a 29er enduro?
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveGiant View Post
    You seem to write like you have read a ton of 26 vs 29 articles, but haven't ridden that many. Which would be a little strange, don't you own a 29er enduro?
    And I've had a 29er since...um, 2006. I rode plenty of others along the way, but the one I had since 2006 was speced with 17.0 chainstays.

    Anyways, you brought up my point, but didn't answer it:
    As for the 'weird' geometry, it only looks weird if you are used to 26" numbers. It works.
    Why do 29ers need longer chainstays? Why they need less slack headtube angles relates to how they roll over stuff and the approach angles they get. Why they need more radical sloping top-tubes is obvious. Why they need shorter headtubes with flatter bars is to make up for the increased axle to crown. Given slightly heavier front wheels that are further away, the front end doesn't "pop up" as easy as on a 26er, even with the same chainstay length, so why do they need to be significantly longer? I don't think there's an answer, except for "we couldn't cram a front derailleur in there". I think this years WFO, BMC, and Enduro (and the lenz with it's 17.375 which has been out for ages) prove this and the next year we'll see many 29ers redesigned to have normal chainstay geometry, at least for those companies that care to do so. I think it's already happening with many manufacturers, Turner Sultan went from 18.2 to 17.4. with the new carbon fiber Czar frame. The XC and Trail bikes that will come out due to this and 1x11 drivetrains will be absolutely fantastic IMO.

    Anyways, is just 140mm of travel a deal-breaker? Course not, but add a few of these together and I think it more than answers the question "where are all the WFO9s?", as the title of the thread asks. Hopefully we'll see more now that the industry seems to be supporting this platform from a design and component standpoint. If the new WFO was the only ticket on the block right now because Specialized didn't come out with the E29 and the BMC didn't exist (too expensive anyway), I'd probably be thinking real hard about it, if not placing an order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    And I've had a 29er since...um, 2006. I rode plenty of others along the way, but the one I had since 2006 was speced with 17.0 chainstays.

    Anyways, you brought up my point, but didn't answer it:

    Why do 29ers need longer chainstays? Why they need less slack headtube angles relates to how they roll over stuff and the approach angles they get. Why they need more radical sloping top-tubes is obvious. Why they need shorter headtubes with flatter bars is to make up for the increased axle to crown. Given slightly heavier front wheels that are further away, the front end doesn't "pop up" as easy as on a 26er, even with the same chainstay length, so why do they need to be significantly longer? I don't think there's an answer, except for "we couldn't cram a front derailleur in there". I think this years WFO, BMC, and Enduro (and the lenz with it's 17.375 which has been out for ages) prove this and the next year we'll see many 29ers redesigned to have normal chainstay geometry, at least for those companies that care to do so. I think it's already happening with many manufacturers, Turner Sultan went from 18.2 to 17.4. with the new carbon fiber Czar frame. The XC and Trail bikes that will come out due to this and 1x11 drivetrains will be absolutely fantastic IMO.

    Anyways, is just 140mm of travel a deal-breaker? Course not, but add a few of these together and I think it more than answers the question "where are all the WFO9s?", as the title of the thread asks. Hopefully we'll see more now that the industry seems to be supporting this platform from a design and component standpoint. If the new WFO was the only ticket on the block right now because Specialized didn't come out with the E29 and the BMC didn't exist (too expensive anyway), I'd probably be thinking real hard about it, if not placing an order.
    I'm not bagging on you, But would be keen to know how tall & heavy you are ??

    Cave Giant is a Monster & the longer stays & things would be a big help when climbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    I'm not bagging on you, But would be keen to know how tall & heavy you are ??

    Cave Giant is a Monster & the longer stays & things would be a big help when climbing.
    5'11" 160lbs, but that's an entirely different issue, that bike companies do not make "proportional" bikes for the bigger riders, rather than just the cheaper "one-size fit's all" rear triangle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    5'11" 160lbs, but that's an entirely different issue, that bike companies do not make "proportional" bikes for the bigger riders, rather than just the cheaper "one-size fit's all" rear triangle.
    Yes that's how they make them, But people buy what suits them.

    So the people that are 6'9" with there seat height are more over the back axle than you are on what you call a short chain stay bike.

    For someone 5'5 on a small the chain stays on the early WFO would feel very long, Just like someone very tall could find short CS a pain for seated climbing.

    So each to there own.
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    Added a Wolftooth 26t to the XX1

    For the trails I ride the 26t is perfect for using the whole range of the cassette which is better than the 30t I had on there. The lower kink is lower than the chainring so I do not hit it on rocks or logs like with the 30t which is great. Oh its lighter too.

    Unfortunately this will be my last year on the WFO as the new one will not fit me with the 20mm less TT length. I have broken 2 rear triangles and a front triangle so far so when this one breaks, the new frame will fund a Lenz lunchbox in xxl. Really wanted to stay loyal to Niner because I really like the brand as well as the CVA suspension. I feel it is the perfect combo of effecient and plush compared to other designs. Maybe if they come out with a decent DH bike someday I will come back to the brand.

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    A WFO named Kodiak

    "Kodiak" If you're going to be a bear be a Kodiak
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    CaveGiant, Could you post pictures of the handlebars and how the TT bars are mounted. Was it a far reach to get into the forearms into the TT pads?
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    Well I have my new WFO build up and running.

    As you may have guessed, the trails are a little wet at the moment



    I took it out for a ride with the local road bike club on Wed. Surprisingly got almost no comments!

    Kept up with them fine. The 6" travel was also useful for the pot holes too =-)

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    WFO's fresh electrolyte green paint job @ South Mountain National/Ranger Trail, AZ


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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalSpine View Post
    WFO's fresh electrolyte green paint job @ South Mountain National/Ranger Trail, AZ

    It looks good, I would be nice to see a close up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    It looks good, I would be nice to see a close up.
    here you go..





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    Nice looking WFO MentalSpine. I just ordered a black WFO from Jensen at a blow-out price.
    Can't wait for it to get here. What headset are you running, as I'd like to have an EC bottom like yours.
    All I seem to be able to find are ones that have ZC bottom cups.
    Thinking of trying to see if 27.7 wheels could work on it and might need more bb clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blcman View Post
    Nice looking WFO MentalSpine. I just ordered a black WFO from Jensen at a blow-out price.
    Can't wait for it to get here. What headset are you running, as I'd like to have an EC bottom like yours.
    All I seem to be able to find are ones that have ZC bottom cups.
    Thinking of trying to see if 27.7 wheels could work on it and might need more bb clearance.

    Thanks Bryan

    thanks, it has the cane creek angleset 1.5deg EC. bb clearance is low enough on a 29". get a skid plate if you're rolling over big rocks at your local trail..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalSpine View Post
    thanks, it has the cane creek angleset 1.5deg EC. bb clearance is low enough on a 29". get a skid plate if you're rolling over big rocks at your local trail..
    How's the CC working for you? I read where they make popping sounds and don't stay tight.
    I'm thinking of using a Works Headset but they only have ZC cups.
    I have one of those skid plates on my RIP and def. will get one for the WFO. Which one are using? I'm asking cause I can't remember where I got mine, Cytoe or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blcman View Post
    How's the CC working for you? I read where they make popping sounds and don't stay tight.
    I'm thinking of using a Works Headset but they only have ZC cups.
    I have one of those skid plates on my RIP and def. will get one for the WFO. Which one are using? I'm asking cause I can't remember where I got mine, Cytoe or something.

    had that popping at first, only to find out it wasn't installed properly.. reinstalled it and haven't had that problem since..

    i got the Cytoe skid plate. another plate was made by BMJ but for a limited production only..

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    Just got from a below freezing ride...it was great. Perfect timing on your answer.
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    This bike was fantastic for everything pisgah. Everything the rip left me wanting, this bike delivered. Superb stability on the steepest, gnarliest descents and climbs, it excelled in everything. even at 34 pounds, it was pedalable anywhere.
    I'm going to be upgrading and will be offing some spare parts from this bike. Figured Y'all are a good audience for these items.
    I-9 gravity 29er wheelset, renthal duo stem, 142 drop outs with maxle, Cane creek db air, fox float 140 34 kashima, KS supernatural dropper, all the linkage hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ric-the-mountainbike View Post
    This bike was fantastic for everything pisgah. Everything the rip left me wanting, this bike delivered. Superb stability on the steepest, gnarliest descents and climbs, it excelled in everything. even at 34 pounds, it was pedalable anywhere.
    I'm going to be upgrading and will be offing some spare parts from this bike. Figured Y'all are a good audience for these items.
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    Those were pre production sample rims. I think using acetone or something similar will take the decals off though.
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    Ric, how were the HRIIs at Pisgah?

    Looking to take my WFO on my first trip down there in early spring. Any recommended trails would be sweet, too.

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    They are awesome. I like them a lot more than the damphs I ran the year before. I'm actually thinking of running the new minion on the front this year for even greater monster truckability.

    I recommend all the trails! But more specifically, Laurel mtn/ pilot rock is phenomenal. Laurel mtn/ big creek is a great 5 hr ride. Squirrel gap is fun and has a good mix of pedaling and descending the whole time. burnt mtn, cedar rock, big rock are 3 great trails in dupont which is just down the road from pisgah. Heartbreak ridge is awesome, that's out towards black mountain and old fort. There is so much to ride here. The Hub and Sycamore in Brevard are fantastic shops and they can certainly help you sort out some great rides. You can also swing by I-9 and get a tour of the facility as well as catch up with us for a weeknight or weekend big ride.
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    Finally got all the pieces together and got it built and have ridden it a few times on some rooty trails.
    13 3/16th BB with a 160mm 27.5 fork and beefy tires. Hardly a pedal strike!
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    So, this just happened:



    It's a '12 WFO, under warranty. Anyone with experience with Niner's warranty dealings have an idea how they'll come back to me? Replace with another old WFO? New 2014?

    Waiting to hear back from Niner...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kragu View Post
    So, this just happened:



    It's a '12 WFO, under warranty. Anyone with experience with Niner's warranty dealings have an idea how they'll come back to me? Replace with another old WFO? New 2014?

    Waiting to hear back from Niner...
    I'm thinking 2014, lets hope so.
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    The best thing for you to do is to bring your frame to your closest Niner dealer, then the warranty process can begin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner Bikes View Post
    The best thing for you to do is to bring your frame to your closest Niner dealer, then the warranty process can begin.
    Thanks. It's actually a friend's bike who doesn't post here. You've probably heard from him already.

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    My new WFO

    Very excited to try this beast out in Pisgah.
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    Where did you get the pike stickerset?

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    Hey can anyone tell me if the hydro-formed Rip and hydro-formed Wfo use the same screws to mount the head tube badge? I just bought a used Wfo that is missing the head badge and tried to put mine on from my rip, but the screws don't tighten up. The holes are tiny, but as best as I can see the threads are not stripped.
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    Just give niner a call i am sure they van help hou out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JammerNinerBoxx View Post
    Very excited to try this beast out in Pisgah.
    Hi JammerNiner, any comments with the new Pike?? Improve the steering and the capacity of the bike over rough stuff?? I have the same model with the Cane Creek DBAir and Im considering putting the Pike 160mm but I dont know if its too much??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SantiagoGT View Post
    Hi JammerNiner, any comments with the new Pike?? Improve the steering and the capacity of the bike over rough stuff?? I have the same model with the Cane Creek DBAir and Im considering putting the Pike 160mm but I dont know if its too much??
    SantiagoGT: What fork are you currently running? If it is a fox 34, Avalanche makes a damper for them that will blow the pike out of the water. It is not cheap but cheaper than a new fork. It is basically a motocross fork internally and customized for your weight, terrain and riding style. My friend and I love ours and compliments the CCDB air very well. Just another lesser known upgrade out there.

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    Only thing with the Fox 34 29er fork is that it's still only going to have 140mm of travel, with or without the Avy treatment. I think a 160mm Pike would be sweet on a WFO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by blcman View Post
    Only thing with the Fox 34 29er fork is that it's still only going to have 140mm of travel, with or without the Avy treatment. I think a 160mm Pike would be sweet on a WFO!
    Yes this is true if he has a 140mm fork already and wants to move up to a 160mm Pike. I had bumped up my fox from 140mm to 150mm last spring so I ended up with the Avy 150mm damper. The A-C on the 150mm fox is the same as a 160mm Pike, this has no value to this topic but I figured I would throw it out there lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolan17 View Post
    Yes this is true if he has a 140mm fork already and wants to move up to a 160mm Pike. I had bumped up my fox from 140mm to 150mm last spring so I ended up with the Avy 150mm damper. The A-C on the 150mm fox is the same as a 160mm Pike, this has no value to this topic but I figured I would throw it out there lol.

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    Nolan17, there must be enough bushing over lap in the Fox 34 140mm 29er to go to 150mm. Do you feel any bushing play rocking forward an backwards?
    I had read last year that some of these OEM forks were bumped up to 150mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nolan17 View Post
    SantiagoGT: What fork are you currently running? If it is a fox 34, Avalanche makes a damper for them that will blow the pike out of the water. It is not cheap but cheaper than a new fork. It is basically a motocross fork internally and customized for your weight, terrain and riding style. My friend and I love ours and compliments the CCDB air very well. Just another lesser known upgrade out there.

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    I have the Talas 140mm, but is going to a Niner ROS. The adjustable travel is not working anymore, so I´m planning to service the shock and eliminate the adjustable travel.

    I usaually use the entire travel of the fork.

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    So my question is: do you feel any improve with the travel and it change to much the geometry?? What is your HA now??

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    You are not using that much travel that often, IMO more travel & less air would help a lot for more grip & better ride.

    The thing is that people talk about fork travel & not sagged fork travel, Going from 140mm to 150mm with sag is only adding approx. 7mm to the travel when you are ridding it.

    So yes it will slacken it a bit but not as much as you think & those bikes could do with being a bit slacker anyway.

    The pike's seem to use more travel more often & still not bottom out, You can adjust the shock ramp up quite easy.


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    I have the Talas 140mm, but is going to a Niner ROS. The adjustable travel is not working anymore, so I´m planning to service the shock and eliminate the adjustable travel.

    I usaually use the entire travel of the fork.

    Here I leave you the link of one of the trails and the fork working.

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    So my question is: do you feel any improve with the travel and it change to much the geometry?? What is your HA now??
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    You are not using that much travel that often, IMO more travel & less air would help a lot for more grip & better ride.

    The thing is that people talk about fork travel & not sagged fork travel, Going from 140mm to 150mm with sag is only adding approx. 7mm to the travel when you are ridding it.

    So yes it will slacken it a bit but not as much as you think & those bikes could do with being a bit slacker anyway.

    The pike's seem to use more travel more often & still not bottom out, You can adjust the shock ramp up quite easy.

    Muzzanic, you are right with more travel & less air is good for grip, but if you increase your SAG it will improve your speed.

    It depends on your riding style. The majority of trails here in Peru is medium pack to loose with many rocks. I have many pieces from my previous bike so thats why Im planning to buy the Pike and finish my Hardtail project with the ROS.

    The majority of the reviews Ive read about the Pike said theres a major improvement in the small bump sensitivity besides the weight reduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SantiagoGT View Post
    Hi JammerNiner, any comments with the new Pike?? Improve the steering and the capacity of the bike over rough stuff?? I have the same model with the Cane Creek DBAir and Im considering putting the Pike 160mm but I dont know if its too much??
    Ok here's my experience with this fork. F-ing AWESOME. here's the deal you can take the Fox 34 make it into whatever you want it to be but it still won't be as stiff and light. I had a Fox 34 talas on my '12 Rip9 and that shitty rp23 with boost valve, I hated that bike. I thought to myself this can't be what it's like. so after a lot of thinking and talking to a lot of buddies I decided to get WFO which is even a heavier frame and more travel. knowing how the Rip9 felt I thought to myself I might be making a big mistake. so first of all the WFO I have has a monarch plus shock HUGH improvement. Then I had the choice send the Fox 34 to suspension experts and have them do the updates that the other fella is talking about on this thread or buy a brand new Pike from them, have them go through it and just be done. well by the pictures you know what my choice was and I have no regrets and that led me to believe that suspension really makes the bike all it can be because if I had this suspension and the RIP 9 I'm 100% certain I would have liked that bike also.
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    Hey JNB, glad you got a WFO with a Pike. Sound like a sweet ride. I also have a '12 Rip9 with the same suspension as you had. You are totally right about it not being all it could be..
    What I did to my Rip was send the RP23 to Push and put a '14 Talas 5 cartridge in the fork. That made a night and day difference in the Rip9. After all that though, I still bought a WFO. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by blcman View Post
    Nolan17, there must be enough bushing over lap in the Fox 34 140mm 29er to go to 150mm. Do you feel any bushing play rocking forward an backwards?
    I had read last year that some of these OEM forks were bumped up to 150mm.
    The 2012 talas I had switched out the internals for the 2014 float 150mm in early 2013, this was before the Pike came out in the 160mm. If I knew the Pike was going to come out I would have waited for it because I really am not a huge fan of Fox. But since I bought the fork used for $400 and the 150mm Float internals were around $200, it still was a great deal considering what they cost new. I do not feel any bushing overlap because I did the mod the right way and not switching the pins out like some have done in the past.

    I do like what Push/Suspension Experts (same company now) does in regards to upgrading current designs. My CCDB air I bought from Susp Experts and just had serviced for this year and Push rebuilt my rp23 which still works great 3 years later. That being said the Avalanche damper is a step above those in performance, it even outperforms my 2012 Dorado 29er on everything except where the extra 25mm of travel is needed. I hear the 2013 on, fox 34's creak a lot and I am glad that mine does not. But if one cannot afford a new Pike this is an upgrade that I would recommend to Fox 34 owners.

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    Good answer nolan17.
    I do know what you mean on the Avy treatment as I have a Avy'd Fox Float 36 and DHX Air on my Knolly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blcman View Post
    Good answer nolan17.
    I do know what you mean on the Avy treatment as I have a Avy'd Fox Float 36 and DHX Air on my Knolly.

    Thanks
    Nice, that Knolly sounds sweet!

    I would add that I am using the Enduro seals on the Fox 34 as well, these have a little tighter tolerarances than stock.

    Guys enjoy your new WFO's and keep the pics coming, I would like to hear some in depth ride reports once you get some miles on them.

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    new to me WFO

    Just put this WFO together. It's the cleanest used frame I have ever bought. I used parts off my RIP9 that I rode for about six months. Only one ride so far but it climbs really well and seems to be nice n soft going down. Pike 140, XT 1x10 with One Up's 40t rear, Maverick seat post, DT240 / WTB Frequency i23 Team rims, RS Monarch + shock. 50mm stem feels a little loopy, may try a 70. Not sure if I'll make some enduro races this year, but it ought to be fun on the trails.
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    WFO9 reporting for duty from Singapore! fantastic ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by khairul84 View Post
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    Very nice, I love it.
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    Took my old school WFO (12 x 150 rear) out for a ride with some new dual ply DHF 2.5 Minions...The new front tire kicked up dirt in my face for the first couple miles.

    Been riding my Enduro 29 and Prime, it's been a long time since I was on my WFO.



    I wanted to demo a new WFO but the demo inventory somewhere here in Southern California did not list any WFO's...what's up with that Niner Bikes?

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    Built my WFO up over the winter and have been riding it hard since the snow melted. It's been such a fun bike! Went with the Fridge Green and to be honest, pictures don't capture how truly unique this color is. Really happy with this bike. It was hard getting any real world info on the WFO yet alone good pictures of the different setups, this has been a great thread for both. Keep it going fellas!
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