Sweet ride + like the color combination
Originally Posted by Broads72
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Has anyone put an angleset on their RIP? I have a 2013 airformed alloy and am toying with slacking it out 1-1.5*
I already have a 140mm pike on the front, and think a 150 would be too tall. I ride a mix of trails with lots of long climbs and descents and have a hardtail for tight flat rides.
Yes, I'm running a 1.5* Works angleset and 1* offset shock bushings. Look at my post on page 47 of this thread for a picture.
Originally Posted by carlhulit
Thinking about grabbing a 2016 large RIP 9 (Alloy) from Jenson, but would like any input regarding issues with linkage bearings, or any other weird issues/noises/ect.. that I should know before pulling the trigger.
Thanks in advance for any help!
EDIT: I'm 6' 215lbs all geared up with a 32" inseam. Also, I won't be using a dropper. This will be my one and only bike for spirited SoCal desert XC/Trail riding..... No bike parks.
Same here. I am looking at the Rip 9 1 start build from Jenson's and I am also looking at the carbon RDO build (2014 frame I think) from pricepoint. My question to you all, which would be a better buy? They both have decent components. I guess the question is with these 2 build, is the carbon really worth the extra $400-$500.
I been riding salsa's for about 6 years now (love their bikes BTW - El Mar, Mama, SFish). Now I am looking for a more trail orientated bike. The XC bikes on the techy trails if fun, but I am sure it would be more fun on a bike like this. I was looking at the Horsetheif, but it looks like I can get a much more better deal on a Rip9. Plus, I have been researching the RIP for a while and it just gets very solid reviews from everywhere. So, my mind is made up, this will be my next bike.
So, between these 2 bikes, which would you all say is a better buy?
Niner RIP 9 2 Star GX1 Bike > Bikes > Mountain Bikes | Jenson USA
Niner RIP 9 RDO XT/SLX w/Easton Haven Wheels Exclusive
Even this build looks pretty decent for the price:
Niner RIP 9 XT/SLX Exclusive Build | Easton Haven Wheels
I don't mind Alloy. All my XC bikes have been alloy (with the exception of my El Mar - steal) and I like the way they ride. I have demo'd some carbon bikes before, and they do ride nice. However, it did not feel like a must for me. Actually, I owned a 2010 Specialized Carbon Stumpjumper HT back in the day and sold it due to the geometry. Just didn't ride like my salsa's for me. Anyhow, I have heard numerous times that the Salsa's and Niner's ride pretty similar. (Would this be a true statement??) I am about 5'10" with a 33.5 inseam and a long reach. I ride a M in salsa, so I am pretty sure I would need a M in niner. However, with my long inseam and reach, I could possibly ride a L. My salsas do have 110m stems along with some pretty good setbacks on the seatposts.
Back to my original question, what are your guy's opinions of the Rip9s (or opinions in general) on the bikes I listed. I was a little hesitant to look at another brand other than salsa since the salsa geo has worked out for me really well thoughout the years. So, I would be interested in hearing some feedback from anyone that has went from salsa to niner or vice versa.
Man, where to start. I have a RIP 9 2 Star GX 1, size L alloy bike that I bought from Jenson 2 weeks ago. I'm 6' 2+" and weigh 195lbs (ulp- hoping this thing will help me lose 15 pounds). Fits me like a glove. I was worried it would be too small, but nope.
Originally Posted by mjc_n_tucson
I love the way the bike handles. I've been riding the crap out of it on my local trails, which are very rocky, with a lot of steep ups & downs. My main beefs are:
Brakes/shift combo. Does SRAM listen to anyone? Do they even ride the stuff they make? Their brakes suck. The setup with the shifter/brake lever is not user-friendly. You have to move your thumb back and up to upshift. Brakes are starting to squeal (I think the pads are metallic, will try organic soon). Give me Shimano. PLEASE. I have a friend who works in a shop and SRAM/Avid stuff frustrates the F#@$ out of him.
Wheels/tires are not tubeless. Not even tubeless-ready. Tires are a beyotch to get on & off, and to get set so they don't have big lumps in them. Front tire washes out easily.
Pedal strikes. I have NEVER gotten so many pedal strikes in my life! Why is this? Suspension too soft? I'll figure it out, I may just need to adapt my riding style.
Niner email service is pretty anemic. I sent an email asking about a bash plate and a derailleur hanger and got this response: Thank you for contacting us. We do not have any specific recommendations for a 'bash plate' for the Rip 9. We have heard of some aftermarket options available, but do not have experience with them. Riiiiiight.
You can purchase derailleur hangers from a Niner dealer, or directly from our website. No link, no nothing. I was asking which one I needed. Is it too hard to send a link of the hanger I need? I found a dealer 2 hours away that has them, but we both unsure which one I needed, exactly. A few seconds of "work" from Niner would have helped immensely.
And speaking of which, I've hit the bottom link several times on rocks, hence the question to Niner about the bash plate.
Did I mention handling? This this handles sooooo nice. Imo, this makes up for the SRAM bs.
It is FAST. Don't know if it's the tires or what, but this thing surges ahead, like a racehorse charging out of the gate.
Beautiful. The paint is gorgeous, and the welds are nice.
It shifts well (1x11), and the dropper post works ok (it sometimes needs a little nudge to come back up).
The Fox fork and the Rockshox rear shock are performing nicely. No probs there. It would have been really nice to get info with the bike on how to tune the two shocks.
Would I buy the RIP 9 again? Most definitely. Rating: 8 outta 10. Joe Bob gives it 2 thumbs up.
I hear you about the Special Ed carbon Stumpy. That's what I had before the Niner, a 2012 top of the line carbon frame, carbon rims, everything (it was a 10k bike, I bought it used). It handled like I was riding a 4x8 sheet of plywood and turned out to be a huge money pit. It also had SRAM shifter/brakes, the start of my hate affair with SRAM.
^ Is this the powder blue bike?
You talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me????
Originally Posted by D Bone
Niner RIP 9 2 Star GX1 Bike > N > Niner | Jenson USA
If you're having issues with the dropper returning, maybe loosen up your seatpost clamp a bit.
I'll try that, thanks.
Originally Posted by rufus
The SRAM Guide brakes seem to be a lot better but I absolutely hated the prior SRAM brakes. I had XO's and XX's on a few bikes and constantly had to re-bleed them, especially the XO's. The ones on my RIP 9 RDO also got super hot on long, steep descents. I switched all my bikes over to Shimano XTR's and never looked back. They work great, especially with metallic pads, and requires much less maintenance.
Originally Posted by Finch Platte
For the pedal strikes, check your rear shock pressure. I have a RIP 9 RDO and when I first got it noticed a lot of pedal strikes as well. Once I got the suspension dialed in it became much less of an issue.
I've found Niner service generally pretty good. Ralph used to handle all the email correspondence (not sure if he still does or not), but always gave me good advice. I did put a bash plate on my Rip 9 RDO that I purchased off another forum user here. He makes them for a bunch of bikes.
I'm 5'11" and ride a medium RIP 9 RDO (and Jet 9 RDO and AIR 9 RDO), and find Med is a great fit for me with Niner.
The RIP 9 RDO frame is great, even the first generation. It did not have the cracking issues that plagued the early generation Jet 9 RDO's, likely due to slightly heavier carbon layup. However I have found the bike does not like water. After riding the Government trail in Snowmass/Aspen and hitting some of the creek crossings, the bearings for the rear suspension were shot and needed replacement. I've had similar issues on the Jet 9 RDO.
RIP 9 bash plate:
Rock protection for Santa Cruz, Niner, Ibis, Turner, and Yeti frames - Buy and Sell Mountain Bikes and Accessories
I have these on my RIP 9 and WFO 9.
RIP 9 Derailleur Hanger:
Derailleur Hanger - RIP/JET/Air 9 Families, WFO 9 and One 9 RDO, 12 x 142
RIP 9 Setup:
Shimano XT brakes or better, end of story.
The "sag" on the rear shock needs to be setup according to your weight. Mine was too soft when I got the bike. Roughly 25% to 30% is the sweet spot. You'll need a shock pump.
Welcome to the RIP 9 family, get ready for some fun!
Originally Posted by Swordzkof
Does it matter where the lever is on the rear shock when setting the sag?
I think you want it full open or descend position
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Originally Posted by muddydc
The "open" position. Move the red rubber ring to the top of the shock. Put all your riding gear on and place the bike near a table or something you can hold on to. Get on the bike but don't jump up and down. I usually put one foot on the ground to support my weight then sit back down with both feet on the pedals.
Now get off the bike and look where the red rubber ring is on the shock. If it's at 20% or less there's too much air, use the release valve. Do the opposite if its more then 30%, add air. Repeat the "sit down" part until you have it around 25-30%.
I think many of the RIP 9 reviews said 25% was the sweet spot.
I picked up one of the blue alloy frames from Jenson and started building it up from parts I'm pulling from my Nimble 9. I got to the rear brake yesterday and wow what a long hose. I was about 4 inches short so I had to order a new hose looks like I will not be riding it this weekend.
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Anyone with the 2013 on up (air formed frame) RIP 9 have a Maxxis Ikon 2.35 on the rear? If so, I would love to see a picture of the clearance between the tire and the seat stay brace arch. If you don't have a pic, but you have previously ran one, what was your experience (clearance) with it?
I tried to run a WTB Vigilante 2.3 on the rear, but there was maybe 5mm of clearance and the tire picked up rocks and wedged them between the brace.
I'm currently running a Spesh Ground Control Grid 2.3 which has solved the problem, but the dam thing seeps sealant like a sponge.
Thanks in advance
Originally Posted by D Bone
On a flow ex with about 30psi. I have not ridden this setup on the rip 9, it's from my el mariachi.
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Very helpful, thanks! Looks like my next tire is the Ikon 2.35..... I have never ran a Maxxis tire before, hopefully they setup tubeless better than the Spesh tires do.
Those are doing well as tubeless running home brew.
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Good to hear. Deciding between High Roller II 2.3 vs Ardent 2.4 for the front.......
Bought this 2014 RIP9 six months ago.
Fox 34 CTD fork
Rock Shox Monarch RT3
Shimano SLX groupset 2x10
Superstar Tactic & Tesla hubs wheelset
Spank Oozy handlebar & stem
KS dropper seatpost
Shimano SLX 180 brakes & rotors
Exustar flat pedals
WTB Pure saddle
My 2012 RIP9 med
XT derailluer/shifter 1x
SLX 11/36 cassette
Race Face Aeffect cinch crankset
Wolf Tooth 28t elliptical chainring
2012 Rockshox revelation dual air 140mm
Manitou Mcleod rear shock
K-Lev eten dropper post
Fizik Kurve Chameleon saddle
DT Swiss XM 481 rims laced to DT 350 hubs
Schwalbe Hans Dampf front/Rock Razor rear
3T ergonova team carbon bar
Truvativ Stylo 75mm stem
Ergon GE1 grips
Moove flat pedals
My 2014 Aluminum RIP 9 - Large
- 10 speed XT shifter/derailluer 1x
- Wolftooth/Goat Link derailluer hanger
- SunRace 11/42 cassette
- XT Crank
- Absolute Black 32t eliptical chainring
- 130mm Rockshock Revelation fork
- Monarch rear shock
- Stan's Flow EX wheels
- Schwalbe Nobby Nics front/back
- KS DropZone remote dropper post
- Cromag flat pedals
- Niner carbon flat bar
- Oury lock-on girps
- Ergon saddle
Hi everybody! Long-time lurker, first time poster. You guys have some awesome bikes in this thread. Last year, I bought one of the last large Rally Blue RDO frames available and have been slowly gathering parts to complete it. Hopefully I'll be able to post finished pictures of it soon.
One thing I was hoping to do is swap the Fox shock for the Monarch that came on the RIP carbon and alloy models but I understand that this shock with the proper tune isn't available commercially. Does anybody know where I might be able to get my hands on one?
From all the reviews I've read, the Fox on the RDO is a much better pedaling platform than the Monarch. I've not ridden the Monarch personally on this frame, but I will say that my RDO pedals exceptionally well, even in open mode. I also ride a SS hardtail often, to give you an idea of the stiffness I'm use to.
My LBS told me a while ago, that if you were looking for a new shock, they could source it direct from SRAM in any tune you could want. Not sure how true that might be, but you could look into it.
Originally Posted by dances-with-bikes
I was looking to upgrade to a Monarch RT3 Debonair from the Monarch RL that came on my bike, and all the RT3's I saw online were all medium tunes, whereas the Rip comes with a light tune.
2017 RIP9 RDO, 3 Star XT, 27.5 kit
Mostly stock but some minor changes, going to quote the full spec since I assume over time Niner will change their spec page...
230# ready to ride, 5' 9" with 32" inseam, "rides everything" from buff XC to "aggressive" trail;
Currently resides NE PA (Wilkes-Barre/Scranton area), rides regularly all over eastern PA, NJ, nearby NY - so fair amount of hills and rocks and roots.
Medium frame, orange, Rock Shox Monarch Plus RC3 DebonAir.
Lyric RC 170mm fork
Stan's Neo/ZTR Baron S1 27.5 wheels (35mm inner width), 110x15 front, 148x12 rear, 4 pawl/36pt engagement
Maxxis Rekon+ 2.8 DC/EXO?TR front, Maxxis Ikon+ 2.8 3C/EXO/TR rear
Shimano XT M8000 brakes, shifter (I-spec II, 11spd), rear deraileur (GS, 11spd, Shadow+), cassette (11-46t)
Shimano HG-701 11spd chain
RaceFace Turbine Cinch 32t 1x crankset w/RaceFace Cinch BSA bottom bracket
RaceFace AEffect 760mm wide/20mm rise handlebar, 8d sweep, 5d upward, 35mm clamp
RaceFace AEffect 50mm stem/6d upward, 35mm clamp
Kind Shock Dropzone R seatpost, 125mm drop, 385mm overall length, 30.9mm clamp
Niner brand grips, saddle, headset spacers, headset, YAWYD top-cap
Installed 180mm RT86 rotor instead of provided 160mm RT86 rotor on rear wheel
Swapped in 'Torque' end caps on front hub for stock 15mm caps since the Lyric has the Torque Cap interface, 20$ direct from notubes.com
Swapped in 6-pawl/72-POE freehub on the the Neo rear hub (still got freehub scarring from the hub-shell drive ring, even with better bearings)
Swapped in Industry 9 Boost rear hub to replace the Neo (no issues after a week in Colorado and Utah MTBing, including 1 run down Whole Enchilada at-speed)
Swapped to SRAM GX 10x42 xD cassette with the I9 hub, no drivetrain tuning required
Added Time MX-8 Carbon pedals
Added RaceFace crank booties
Added Mucky-Nuts face-fender to fork
Added Blackburn Chamber UD bottle cage
Added MRP AMGv1 lower half (cut off upper guide) for additional bash protection of lower link
Added Lindarets ReMount-IS to relocate KS remote under-bar.
Added mascot 'bear' under saddle (until I figure out good forward mount)
Shop claims bike weight 30.40 pounds (with some trail dust on it).
- Tires: tubeless (duh), 22 psi front, 27 psi rear. Minor bouncy but rolls great and no rocks getting through to rims (*yet*) even when going full #enduro. :P
- Head: 2 spacers under stem, 2 above, stem mounted inverted
Normal/Open Mode - for most riding:
- Shock: targeting 30% sag, 3 volume spacers, 260 psi, ridden 'open' mostly, 9 clicks rebound damping, shock in Open mode
- Fork: targeting 30% sag, 2 tokens installed, 60 psi, 5 clicks compression damping, 9 clicks rebound damping
Firm Mode - for smooth/buff "XC" trail:
- Shock: same setup as above but with switch set to intermediate 'firm' but not 'lockout' mode
- Fork: same setup as above EXCEPT 8 clicks compression damping instead, balances well with intermediate shock mode
( all damping clicks are 'from full open')
Suspension Setup Note:
Bike loves 30% sag as center-point, rides super well there over variety of terrain and climbs well too. Niner suspension setup documentation states frame work best between 25-35% sag so this makes sense to me. However, with 27.5+ wheelset pedal-strike is a factor - even with 170mm Lyrik - so be warned. I have not tested with 29er wheelset as I don't have a BOOST set to try with (that will come later).
Ride height note:
With the 27.5" wheels and 30% sag pedal strikes are something to adapt to. I have. It's worth running the bike at 30% - trust me on this.
Moab Badazz ...
Autumn Badazz ...
Last edited by bear; 10-25-2016 at 12:51 PM.
Bear...this needs pics!
Originally Posted by bear
I know you've posted elsewhere but...I need more visual. Especially with that orange!
Here's my 2017 Rip. 4 Star, mostly stock, changed cranks, bars, stem & chainring (now running an Absolute Black 32t oval) and obviously some suspension tweaks . She sits at just over 30lbs & pedals like a 25lb bike! Dream bike for me This bike rode so well stock, but when I put the ElevenSix on there & had PUSH tune the 36, it became a whole new animal!
That's one bling-a-rific build there inkpad, nice. No go get some dirt. :P
Hey Bear, you say you have 3 volume spacers in your monarch, how many does it come with oem? I'm familiar with NE trails, you may be able to speed me up on set up of this re designed Rip.
I'm very finicky about set up as I'm an Ex motocross guy. That being said, I'm not familiar with the Monarch Debonair. You say it likes 30% SAG, How many volume spacers would you recommend me starting with? I'm 200# suited up, and like progressive suspension and ride fairly aggressive techy stuff. Bike will be here tommorow, super pumped!! 🍻
My medium came with 2 spacers in the Monarch Plus, and 1 bottomless token in the Lyrik 170.
I'm 220# before gear, so probably 230-240 full kit. I have 3 spacers in the shock and 2 tokens, run the fork at 60-65 psi and the shock at 260-265 psi and get 30% sag.
I'm a fan of "screw with less ride more" so ... in your case ... if you're not super aggressive hitting drops and jumps I'd advise starting with the stock spacer/token setup. If you like to hit it big and hard then I'd go ahead and add the extra spacer/token to either, the figure out the 30% sag psi mark. At a WAG, maybe 55-60 psi in the fork and 240-250 in the shock as a start. Once you get the PSI settled and some serious rides make sure you're getting all travel now and then on your bigger hits.
Note: Be sure to read up on how to properly air-up the shock, because of the debonair chamber design it's not as simply as just air-up-n-go, at least the first time. There's a bit of a process to ensure that negative chamber is properly equalized.
Good luck, and enjoy the bike, I really enjoy mine.
Cool man, thanks for the info. Yeah, I always have to add a token or two in my previous Pikes, so figured the same for the Lyric. Thanks for the heads up on the Monarch. This Rip is going XT Di2. Im also going to run Carbon Roval 38SL wheelset. Should be a good build. I used to live 20 minutes from Shindagan! I'm now in mtb Mecca near Pisgah and DuPont. Great riding down south year around.
Originally Posted by bear
Careful admitting that to me, I'm thinking about coming down to WNC over the winter or early spring to escape the NE PA "blues" ;^)
Originally Posted by Gutch
Great, "bike friendly" vibe down here in WNC. Lmk, if you want to ride. We could possibly Rip it up?! No pun intended..
Originally Posted by bear
30#11oz. Large Rip9 RDO.
Renthal Carbon bar 780mm
Renthal 50mm stem
Roval Carbon 38SL
PURGATORY 3.0 tires
Magura Vyron dropper
Specialized boomslang pedals
203mm front rotor
180mm rear rotor
SWAT top cap and cage.
KMC SL gold chain