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    Here's mine!

    Purpose: XC - All mtn and to take me to the limit
    Model: Early 08 Medium 30.9 seattube
    Rider height: 5' 10"
    Weight: 180
    Drivetrain: Shimano XT 2x9 with Bashguard
    Brakes: Juicy ultimates with Dirty dog rotors
    Rear Shock: Fox rp23 set at 140psi
    Front fork Fox 100mm set at 90psi
    Seat post: Thomson
    Stem: Thomson
    Handlebar: Salsa Carbon Pro Moto 25 inches wide
    Headset: Kingkong
    Wheels: Bontrager hoops and Dt Swiss hubs
    Tires: Kenda Nevegals / Nevegals corner and bite great
    Miles: 500 plus just had it 9 weeks

    This bike changed the way I ride. I can bomb the downhills now.I had a 60mm stem and changed to a 90mm and it feels too long for me so I'm switching to a 70mm.The propedal feature is never used unless I have to ride a paved road- this also makes me sick to my stomach.Sorry for the dirt I have ridden almost 4 times a week since I bought this bike.My 9 is fading on the right side,I usually unclip my left foot and rest the bike on my leg, I guess " sweat" or my bike shorts are rubbing against it?
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    That thing is the....

    SHIZNIT!

    and that is fo-schizzle.

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    I am posting for 2 reasons

    First Reason: To keep this Thread towards the top of the Niner Bikes - I think it should be stickied.

    Second Reason: Because I have to do something to contain my excitement. I am so close to completing my components purchases, I can barely take it. I have to be patient, because I am building on a budget, I just hope that my patience pays off. I will post what I can, anything left out either is not purchased, or has not been decided upon.

    Purpose: XC/AM - Longer Rides than my GF HT
    Rider Height: 6'2"
    Weight: 210 (racing season), 220 all other times
    Frame: 2008 Closeout L/Anno Silver w/ Fox RP23
    Fork: Manitou Minute w/ 20mm thru Axle (black)
    Crankset: Truvativ Noir 3 Ring
    Shifters: SRAM x9
    Rear Derailleur: Sram x0
    Front Derailleur: XT
    Handlebars: Bontrager Race X-Lite Flat OS w/ 9 deg backswing
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite Straight
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7 185mm front, 160mm rear rotors
    Headset: FSA Orbit Xtreme Pro

    Still Deciding:......... (In order of preference)
    Wheels: Stans Arches, Bonty Race Lite UST, Mavic Crossmax
    Hubs: WTB Laser Lite, Hope Pro II
    Seat: SI Flite, WTB Rocket V
    Cassette: Sram 970, 990
    Chain: SRAM PG-990 Cross Step (970 is garbage)
    Stem: Bonty Race X-Lite, FSA OS-99, Race Face Deus
    Pedals: Shimano SPD - cheapest, lightest, and available on ebay
    Changes: I may change from flat bars fairly quickly. I did not like these bars on my HT, and so I might not like them on my FS. I will know after a few rides.

    Any thoughts on the unpurchased products would be appreciated. Budget is my primary concern, weight is a close second. By taking time, I am able to wait to pay for the items I really want. This will work except that I can't see forking over $775 for the Crossmax wheels when I can get the Stans or Bonty Rims at nearly 60% of the price.

    To Be Continued.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pynis McDermott
    First Reason: To keep this Thread towards the top of the Niner Bikes - I think it should be stickied.

    Second Reason: Because I have to do something to contain my excitement. I am so close to completing my components purchases, I can barely take it. I have to be patient, because I am building on a budget, I just hope that my patience pays off. I will post what I can, anything left out either is not purchased, or has not been decided upon.

    Purpose: XC/AM - Longer Rides than my GF HT
    Rider Height: 6'2"
    Weight: 210 (racing season), 220 all other times
    Frame: 2008 Closeout L/Anno Silver w/ Fox RP23
    Fork: Manitou Minute w/ 20mm thru Axle (black)
    Crankset: Truvativ Noir 3 Ring
    Shifters: SRAM x9
    Rear Derailleur: Sram x0
    Front Derailleur: XT
    Handlebars: Bontrager Race X-Lite Flat OS w/ 9 deg backswing
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite Straight
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7 185mm front, 160mm rear rotors
    Headset: FSA Orbit Xtreme Pro

    Still Deciding:......... (In order of preference)
    Wheels: Stans Arches, Bonty Race Lite UST, Mavic Crossmax
    Hubs: WTB Laser Lite, Hope Pro II
    Seat: SI Flite, WTB Rocket V
    Cassette: Sram 970, 990
    Chain: SRAM PG-990 Cross Step (970 is garbage)
    Pedals: Shimano SPD - cheapest, lightest, and available on ebay

    Any thoughts on the unpurchased products would be appreciated. Budget is my primary concern, weight is a close second. By taking time, I am able to wait to pay for the items I really want. This will work except that I can't see forking over $775 for the Crossmax wheels when I can get the Stans or Bonty Rims at nearly 60% of the price.My Avid brakes came with organic pads that wear real fast, so watch-em.

    To Be Continued.............
    Yea I think there's a Jet sticky and no Rip sticky The build....that scram 990 cassette with the red spider-sweet. The crossmax's may not be worth the money, I don't think they are very stiff, Hope and Stan's yea! XTR shimano pedals new $120, eggbeaters would be lighter and cheaper. What's the travel on the fork? I have wanted to ask the question on this forum about a 120mm vs a 100mm the question of geometry, is the 08 rip designed for 120mm of travel in the front? Will the extra 20mm affect handling??

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    Hope

    As to '08 RIP9 geo, no no change from '07, designed around a 100mm fork A to C of about 520/5 mm I believe.

    Wheels, not even a question......Stand FLOWS laced to Hope Pro2s. Easy tubeless, strong and light for about $550. Also easily convertable between QR, 10mm and 20mm - just popped the ends caps off and replace with whatever sized you need, 5 min job. Really want a stiff rear wheel, use the SS/Trials hub and run 6 cogs on it and get a dishless wheel :thumb\sup:

    Pick up the PG990 in stead of the 970 or better yet try to find an XT on sale and get the lightest sub $100 cassette out. I have the red ano PG990 to match my red Hope parts also have an XT.

    On the fork, the 120mm Minute is very sweet on the RIP9, the greater offset helps offset the higher A to C (only 15mm taller than a 100mm Reba) and the TA is fantasticly stiff. I may still lower travel by about 10mm as I really like how the RIP9 rides with a 100mm Reba (38mm offset).


    Quote Originally Posted by motobutane
    Yea I think there's a Jet sticky and no Rip sticky The build....that scram 990 cassette with the red spider-sweet. The crossmax's may not be worth the money, I don't think they are very stiff, Hope and Stan's yea! XTR shimano pedals new $120, eggbeaters would be lighter and cheaper. What's the travel on the fork? I have wanted to ask the question on this forum about a 120mm vs a 100mm the question of geometry, is the 08 rip designed for 120mm of travel in the front? Will the extra 20mm affect handling??

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    These RIP9s are old news and have had problems, they want this thread to die a naturla death and not draw attention to itself
    Not true Lyncoln. These first generation RIP9's are very, very awesome bikes. Sure we saw some breakage in the L and XL sizes on 07 but every one that broke was taken care of with an 08 (yourself included!) The 08 is a very solid bike.

    Heck, my old 07 Large is still killing it as a front range bike and has more mileage than probably most people will ever imagine riding! It's still going strong.

    Where else can you buy a frame design that is probably one of least understood yet pedals consistent across all three chain rings with barely any chain growth, no pedal kick back, and low leverage ratio at these prices of a closeout or second hand RIP9? For the fun factor, I've been told by many of my dealers this frame pedals better than all the $2200+ (insert frame here) XYZ mini-link suspension design they also sell.

    It's these bikes which are very affordable right now - these are the bikes which will show people just how well CVA pedals. Once they hammer that first power hill out-of-the-saddle standing in big ring and feel the bottomless travel on that first baby head descent for the first time...it's all over. But you know I am biased.

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    I can definitely vote...

    Quote Originally Posted by Pynis McDermott
    First Reason: To keep this Thread towards the top of the Niner Bikes - I think it should be stickied.

    Second Reason: Because I have to do something to contain my excitement. I am so close to completing my components purchases, I can barely take it. I have to be patient, because I am building on a budget, I just hope that my patience pays off. I will post what I can, anything left out either is not purchased, or has not been decided upon.

    Purpose: XC/AM - Longer Rides than my GF HT
    Rider Height: 6'2"
    Weight: 210 (racing season), 220 all other times
    Frame: 2008 Closeout L/Anno Silver w/ Fox RP23
    Fork: Manitou Minute w/ 20mm thru Axle (black)
    Crankset: Truvativ Noir 3 Ring
    Shifters: SRAM x9
    Rear Derailleur: Sram x0
    Front Derailleur: XT
    Handlebars: Bontrager Race X-Lite Flat OS w/ 9 deg backswing
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite Straight
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7 185mm front, 160mm rear rotors
    Headset: FSA Orbit Xtreme Pro

    Still Deciding:......... (In order of preference)
    Wheels: Stans Arches, Bonty Race Lite UST, Mavic Crossmax
    Hubs: WTB Laser Lite, Hope Pro II
    Seat: SI Flite, WTB Rocket V
    Cassette: Sram 970, 990
    Chain: SRAM PG-990 Cross Step (970 is garbage)
    Stem: Bonty Race X-Lite, FSA OS-99, Race Face Deus
    Pedals: Shimano SPD - cheapest, lightest, and available on ebay
    Changes: I may change from flat bars fairly quickly. I did not like these bars on my HT, and so I might not like them on my FS. I will know after a few rides.

    Any thoughts on the unpurchased products would be appreciated. Budget is my primary concern, weight is a close second. By taking time, I am able to wait to pay for the items I really want. This will work except that I can't see forking over $775 for the Crossmax wheels when I can get the Stans or Bonty Rims at nearly 60% of the price.

    To Be Continued.............
    for any other wheel than the crossmax's. I just sold mine and picked up a set of 317 on deore hubs while I am awaiting my Hope pro2's and stans arch to be built. I was amazed at how much of what I thought was flex in the rear end of the bike was actually the crossmax wheels. I paid $100 for the set of cheap deore wheels and they ride better than $800 wheels? I am not a clydesdale by any stretch of the imagination either. Go with a regular 3 cross standard spoke count wheelset, you will be much happier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2melow
    Not true Lyncoln. These first generation RIP9's are very, very awesome bikes. Sure we saw some breakage in the L and XL sizes on 07 but every one that broke was taken care of with an 08 (yourself included!) The 08 is a very solid bike.

    Heck, my old 07 Large is still killing it as a front range bike and has more mileage than probably most people will ever imagine riding! It's still going strong.

    Where else can you buy a frame design that is probably one of least understood yet pedals consistent across all three chain rings with barely any chain growth, no pedal kick back, and low leverage ratio at these prices of a closeout or second hand RIP9? For the fun factor, I've been told by many of my dealers this frame pedals better than all the $2200+ (insert frame here) XYZ mini-link suspension design they also sell.

    It's these bikes which are very affordable right now - these are the bikes which will show people just how well CVA pedals. Once they hammer that first power hill out-of-the-saddle standing in big ring and feel the bottomless travel on that first baby head descent for the first time...it's all over. But you know I am biased.

    Brett
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    - You may be biased but every word you spoke is quite true.

    The RIP (to me) feels alot like the 1 gen. VPP bikes from Santa Cruz but better. They don't creak, eat DU bushings, or bearings. I for one can't wait until my 09' lands as it's somehow improved over my 07'/08'. Pretty impressive from such a young, VERY focused bike company.

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    Brett, sorry, the comment (I have edited my post) was made to get a reaction as it seems the only real way to get any attention around here. I've asked for this to be stickied as have others, yet it sounds on deaf ears it would seem. I don't see why it can't be stickied since there's a JET9 one and see no reason to not have dedicated ones for the others models in the line up so when someone comes looking for images and info on a specific model it's right there at the top of the forum - makes life very simple and easy for prospective clients.


    As to Niner and warranty, I would never say a bad word as far as that's concerned, you guys were top notch in my case and in every other case I have read of regarding warranty.

    The RIP9 is a very solid bike and although I can still feel the flex in my ver 1.4/'08 it still is great and on the version 1 I had that cracked, that had on well over 2500 hard miles before it failed. I thoroughly enjoy my RIP9 and will continue to for as long as I can and maybe sometime in the future maybe the newly revised RIP9 might make it into my posession.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2melow
    Not true Lyncoln. These first generation RIP9's are very, very awesome bikes. Sure we saw some breakage in the L and XL sizes on 07 but every one that broke was taken care of with an 08 (yourself included!) The 08 is a very solid bike.

    Heck, my old 07 Large is still killing it as a front range bike and has more mileage than probably most people will ever imagine riding! It's still going strong.

    Where else can you buy a frame design that is probably one of least understood yet pedals consistent across all three chain rings with barely any chain growth, no pedal kick back, and low leverage ratio at these prices of a closeout or second hand RIP9? For the fun factor, I've been told by many of my dealers this frame pedals better than all the $2200+ (insert frame here) XYZ mini-link suspension design they also sell.

    It's these bikes which are very affordable right now - these are the bikes which will show people just how well CVA pedals. Once they hammer that first power hill out-of-the-saddle standing in big ring and feel the bottomless travel on that first baby head descent for the first time...it's all over. But you know I am biased.

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    Everyone,

    Thank you for the input regarding the wheels. The bottom line why I will not go with the Crossmax is price, they are too expensive for my budget. I could finish my build for the cost of just these wheels. I like the Arches for my purposes and terrain (AZ Desert). Hubs, likely the Hopes, but maybe the WTB Laser Lites as well.

    Brett, stated perfectly, and thanks for the pic of the '07 (or maybe '08) with the 120mm fork.

    I will follow with pics ASAFP. (F = financially)

    Until then, "Pedal Damn It."
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    New question here. Arch over Flow?

    Got to agree with ya on the price thing for the CrossMaxx wheels, way over priced IMHO and if you get a chance to compare the engagment to the Hopes I bet you'll be suprised.

    Very curious why you would chose to run the Arches over the Flows in territory like Arizona? I'd think the wider rim would help give a wide foot print and that would be useful there, especially if you're going for the more AM build running a 120mm fork.

    Pic is of an '07.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pynis McDermott
    Everyone,

    Thank you for the input regarding the wheels. The bottom line why I will not go with the Crossmax is price, they are too expensive for my budget. I could finish my build for the cost of just these wheels. I like the Arches for my purposes and terrain (AZ Desert). Hubs, likely the Hopes, but maybe the WTB Laser Lites as well.

    Brett, stated perfectly, and thanks for the pic of the '07 (or maybe '08) with the 120mm fork.

    I will follow with pics ASAFP. (F = financially)

    Until then, "Pedal Damn It."
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    You bet Pynis.

    Guys, if you are still trying to find an 07-08 and are having a hard time - email me and I can probably help you locate one. A lot of our dealers want to move old stock or demo bikes and don't have time to actively peruse mtbr all day or even know of this website where people are still looking.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2melow
    You bet Pynis.

    Guys, if you are still trying to find an 07-08 and are having a hard time - email me and I can probably help you locate one. A lot of our dealers want to move old stock or demo bikes and don't have time to actively peruse mtbr all day or even know of this website where people are still looking.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Got to agree with ya on the price thing for the CrossMaxx wheels, way over priced IMHO and if you get a chance to compare the engagment to the Hopes I bet you'll be suprised.

    Very curious why you would chose to run the Arches over the Flows in territory like Arizona? I'd think the wider rim would help give a wide foot print and that would be useful there, especially if you're going for the more AM build running a 120mm fork.

    Pic is of an '07.
    I'm still trying to learn as much as I can about these wheels. I just checked out the Stans website, but could not find much info. All I know is that I want either the Arch wheel or the Flow wheel over the 355 because of flex. Why do you like the Flow better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pynis McDermott
    I'm still trying to learn as much as I can about these wheels. I just checked out the Stans website, but could not find much info. All I know is that I want either the Arch wheel or the Flow wheel over the 355 because of flex. Why do you like the Flow better?
    Go with Flow... I just asked LyNx this in a PM. Wider rim, better footprint for All Mountain tires, and less flex, more rigidity. I've heard the 355's referred to as "noodley" and in need of truing time at the bench rather frequently.

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    Wink FLOW is bigger

    Well basically I like the Flow better because it's the Arch's big brother so to speak - burlier, wider, deeper - which to me more suits "AM" type riding and bigger tyres better. The Arch is only 24mm wide, whereas the Flow is 28mm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pynis McDermott
    I'm still trying to learn as much as I can about these wheels. I just checked out the Stans website, but could not find much info. All I know is that I want either the Arch wheel or the Flow wheel over the 355 because of flex. Why do you like the Flow better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Well basically I like the Flow better because it's the Arch's big brother so to speak - burlier, wider, deeper - which to me more suits "AM" type riding and bigger tyres better. The Arch is only 24mm wide, whereas the Flow is 28mm.
    Thanks so much for the diagrams and the info. I will opt for the Flows if I can locate them for less than $500/wheelset. Really Great Input!

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    Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since no one seems to think this fit for stickying, I guess I'll just have to continue to bump it up to the top of the forum
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    I got another bump. Thanks to everyone for the wheel advice. Just bought some Stans Flows on Ebay, and they happened to be from the same shop where I bought my bike (Big Kahuna). They are everything I wanted except that the WTB Laserlite Hubs were my second choice. Oh well, got them at as good as a price as I could find. I will have pics and a build post sooner than later.
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    Good job!

    Glad to know this thread was of help to you maybe some wise Mod will figure it out eventually and sticky it

    Quote Originally Posted by Pynis McDermott
    I got another bump. Thanks to everyone for the wheel advice. Just bought some Stans Flows on Ebay, and they happened to be from the same shop where I bought my bike (Big Kahuna). They are everything I wanted except that the WTB Laserlite Hubs were my second choice. Oh well, got them at as good as a price as I could find. I will have pics and a build post sooner than later.
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    Hey Brett, how about asking The Powers That Be Here how to make a post a sticky, since you are a Moderator here?

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    Damn, keeping this thing up to the top of the forum is geting to be a PITA Hurry up and finish that RIP9 RB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Damn, keeping this thing up to the top of the forum is geting to be a PITA Hurry up and finish that RIP9 RB.

    I'm buying components as fast as they go up for sale at a good price at the swap meets. Lately, the swap meets have been rained out. Maybe my Stylo's and 990 arrive soon. Can't put 950's on titanium carriers, unless you want to destroy the carrier on a Hadley hub.

    This still needs to be made a sticky, Mr. Brett of Niner Bikes.

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    As my first official act as Niner mod, I dub this thread stickied.

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    YEAH, PaulB for Super MOD thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B
    As my first official act as Niner mod, I dub this thread stickied.

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    My first unofficial RIP Nine, about an hour after UPS delivered it. Levi Leipheimer, while winning the yellow jersey today in the Amgen Tour of California, approves.



    EDIT: Day 2 of ownership Involved running down and back to Jensens in Ontario, for new drivetrain components. I was going to spring for Race Face XC cranks, until I saw that the 22 ring gear was steel, and that there was no extractor screw to pop the crankarm off for R &R like on a TruVativ Stylo 3.3 , or my FireX.

    So I sprang for the 2008 Stylo, SRAM 990 cassette, so I wouldn't gouge the titanium carrier on the Hadley, and a SRAM 970 chain. Total for the drive trail was really close to $200 with sales tax. New parts are expensive, something I was trying to avoid on this build, but drivetrain parts do wear out, so it was just best to buy new and know it's all at the same wear levels.
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    Rear derailleur was a joy to adjust, zero problems getting the stops correct and the B screw set up, then last adjusts with only 3 clicks out on the barrel adjuster on the trigger.



    A sign of things to come, once everything is adjusted and test ridden to satisfaction?



    The opposite of "Pedal Dammit"



    Having a Bionicon, I am used to adjusting this on the fly on the handle bars, this however, will be something new to learn to fiddle with when climbing or descending.




    SNAFU! Something always funky when you buy used. Seller was supposed to include the original front derailleur in the package, but this one was off of one of his other bikes, I suspect, the angle of the seat post on the RIP is 70 or 72 degrees with the bend in the seat tube? Height on the seat tube will work either 22 and 32 or 32 and 44, but not all three, due to the angle of the derailleur not jiving with the angle of the seat post. Any pointers on the correct P/N and angle?

    EDIT: I got an email from the owner and in New England, where he is from, there is a lot of rock, and he ended up using the big chainring more as a rock guard, and ended up running it 2x9, so the derailleur wasnt an issue for him. Maybe Brett can give me some insight. I am also having some problems with the RP 23 shock having some clearance issues with the band for the front derailleur. It's hitting the derailleur band? I wonder how Niner really got this thing to work, or maybe that is why they went with the 30.9 tubing and no additional bracing, with a low mount derailleur, it's really tight in there, I may have to grind either the band or the shock to get the required clearance.



    Once I fiddle around and find a stem length and height I like, the sawzall will come out and the steering tube will get circumcised surgically with my Sawzall and a good sharp blade.


    Getting there! Soon, it's still raining and muddy, so I have some time.
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    As my first official act as Niner mod, I dub this thread stickied.

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    Does that make it an OFFICIAL Niner RIP Setup page, like the Jet Sticky or just a Niner RIP Setup page, like it is right now?

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    Totally official. There will be a ribbon-cutting ceremony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    My first unofficial RIP Nine, about an hour after UPS delivered it. Levi Leipheimer, while winning the yellow jersey today in the Amgen Tour of California, approves.

    First of all, Hooray Paul. You won the battle for us RIPpers out there!

    Back on topic, are you going to cut that fork tube or leave it full length?
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    Well he is quite an old fart Fo Sho he should leave it full length and throw some more spacers under that stem so he doesn't need to bend over too far and hurt his ancient back
    Quote Originally Posted by Pynis McDermott
    First of all, Hooray Paul. You won the battle for us RIPpers out there!

    Back on topic, are you going to cut that fork tube or leave it full length?
    Seriously I think once the headset is properly installed and he's had a few rides on it he'll settle on his bar height and trim as mecessary
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    Thanks Paul!
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    Hope Have I ever?

    I think not! I have stated my thoughts and opinions and if that's out of hand, then tell me now, cause even down here in the 3rd world that's known as freedom of speech I only have issues with 1 MOD and that's because they have a serious god complex, I stay away from commentin in threads they have been in since they believe they are right and anyone else is the devil if they disagree or stand up to them.

    I think I provide what I consider to be honest opinions, not based on manufacturer loyatly, more from a consumers POV - If Niner or any at MTBR wish me to leave the site and not participate I will gladly do so.

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    I would, uh, note the big smiley as an indication that I wasn't serious or anything.

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    Was duly noted and from you taken as such, but I think you are amoung the minority who don't think like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Maybe Brett can give me some insight. I am also having some problems with the RP 23 shock having some clearance issues with the band for the front derailleur. It's hitting the derailleur band....
    Hi Randy,

    Sorry I haven't been on this thread for a while. Here is a really detailed post
    Front derailleur mounting on RIP9 ver 1.1 frame
    which describes the mod and derailleurs which work.

    Looks good!

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    Has anyone sent their Fox RP 23 to Push yet?
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    I guess adding a bash ring is technically a setup change.


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    Quote Originally Posted by artnshel
    Has anyone sent their Fox RP 23 to Push yet?
    No, but I did add the HV can to mine and really enjoyed the difference. The whole rear really becomes much more compliant and AM-ish (and, consequently, less XC-enduro-ish).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B
    No, but I did add the HV can to mine and really enjoyed the difference. The whole rear really becomes much more compliant and AM-ish (and, consequently, less XC-enduro-ish).

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    I wasn't getting full travel at 1/2" of sag so I did the big can too and really like it. I also think I might like the feel of less compression damping so I'm thinking of trying Push. They've done wonders on a previous shock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B
    No, but I did add the HV can to mine and really enjoyed the difference. The whole rear really becomes much more compliant and AM-ish (and, consequently, less XC-enduro-ish).

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    You got a picture of that, do you have plenty of clearance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by motobutane
    You got a picture of that, do you have plenty of clearance?
    No pic on hand, and my dog ate my USB cable so I can't go take a quick shot, but on a Large frame I have puh-lenty of clearance. Note this is an RP23, and the HV can is, like, maybe an extra 1/2" in diameter over the regular one. Totally not a biggie.

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead!

    WTF is up with that? I swear they're more tempramental than damn kids My pup just up and decided today while I was gone for max an hour to chew up one of my not cheap, flip flops I wasn't out long, I'd played with him in the morning, fed him, treats etc. He hasn't chewed anything besides tissue paper in a long time and his stuffed toys which he could rip apart much easier are still intact - sometimes I just really wonder.

    Sorry for the rant.

    Oh and on topic, never felt the need for the HV can on my XL RIP9, always get full travel with about 10-12mm SAG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B
    No pic on hand, and my dog ate my USB cable so I can't go take a quick shot, but on a Large frame I have puh-lenty of clearance. Note this is an RP23, and the HV can is, like, maybe an extra 1/2" in diameter over the regular one. Totally not a biggie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2melow
    Hi Randy,

    Sorry I haven't been on this thread for a while. Here is a really detailed post
    Front derailleur mounting on RIP9 ver 1.1 frame
    which describes the mod and derailleurs which work.

    Looks good!

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    Got it straightened out and functioning... but wow is the height setting super critical to get all three ring gears working, Got in there with a file on the bottom of theRP23, and all is good. Thanks Brett for the link.

    I don't race XC on this bike, so having an upright seating arrangement instead of a layed out low wind resistance, over the bars setup is favored by me. I will try lower spacing of the bars and a longer stem later, still need to find some used Formula K18's or K24s first.

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    OK Randy, I gave you a pass on the L because you're a bit older than I and said you ride more tech stuff, don't race etc, BUT SERIOUSLY get that damn 50mm stem off that thing : At least throw a 100mm stem on there so you don't look like a damn English gentleman riding with top hat etc. sitting bolt upright Other that, it came together quite nice. Look slike you're lucky and having some fantastic weather already. Oh and when things permit, maybe you'll want that setback post
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Oh and on topic, never felt the need for the HV can on my XL RIP9, always get full travel with about 10-12mm SAG.
    There may be terrain differences between Barbados and Arizona to take into consideration. Also, I'm a lardass and run about 220# fully loaded on my bike.

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    Hope SAG is SAG,

    ..................but I guess maybe the shock has different characteristics when run at higher pressures. 50lbs difference there so that's prob gona have you running the normal canned RP23 around 140-150 PSI, whereas I run mine around 110-120 PSI.

    Oh and that's isn't politically correct of you, you may be barraged with hate mail because of it

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    There may be terrain differences between Barbados and Arizona to take into consideration. Also, I'm a lardass and run about 220# fully loaded on my bike.

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    It's not about the sag, it's about the compression characteristics of different volumes of air. The bigger volume means a shallower ramp-up and more linear compression. My problem with the standard can was that, at the pressures I run for correct sag, the ramp-up was too fast and I couldn't reach the bottom 20% of my stroke. That's probably less of an issue as you run lower pressures for lower loaded weights.

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    Wink Well said and makes perfect sense

    I think you stated that right It's nice sometimes to be the tall skinny dude I think the max I've weighed while riding was when I did the Mopnarch Crest ride in CO and loaded up for just about anything, pack was around 20-25lbs I think and still I was <200lbs, BUT, did have to add air to the RP23 as I could feel how different the bike felt with the added weight.

    Maybe Niner should consider an option where you/they chose either the standard or HV option depending on your height to weight ratio for someone like me who's on an XL and only about 170lbs neked a standard can, for somene my height who weighs 220lbs+ a HV can.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul B
    It's not about the sag, it's about the compression characteristics of different volumes of air. The bigger volume means a shallower ramp-up and more linear compression. My problem with the standard can was that, at the pressures I run for correct sag, the ramp-up was too fast and I couldn't reach the bottom 20% of my stroke. That's probably less of an issue as you run lower pressures for lower loaded weights.

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    -Main purpose: all mountain, XC, Epic riding
    -Trail location: Northern California/SF Bay area
    -Frame: 09/X-Large/Silver
    -Riders dimensions: ~195lbs, 6'3", ~36" inseam
    -Stem: Thomson Elite X4 90mm
    -Handlebar: Niner Flat
    -Grips: Ergon GX-1 Race
    -Seatpost: Thomson 367mm black
    -Saddle: Bontrager Racelite
    -Fork: Rockshox Reba Team w/Maxlelite thru axle
    -Headset: Chris King, black
    -Brakes: Formula K24 160mm rotors
    -Shifters: Sram XO
    -Crankset: Shimano XT M770
    -Pedals: Shimano PD-m770XT
    -Chain: Shimano Dura Ace
    -Front Deraileur: Shimano XT
    -Rear Deraileur: Sram X9
    -Cassette: Shimano XT M770
    -Wheels: ZTR Arch
    -Hubs: Hope Pro II
    -Tires: Continental Mt.King Tubeless
    2.4 in front and 2.2 in rear
    -Weight: 29lbs. exactly

    Other bikes: Trek and Gary Fisher 26" full-suspension and hardtails
    Future additions or changes: probably go with a larger rotor in front.
    Comments: I've only ridden it about a half dozen times from muddy to dry terrain. First impression is that cross country/downhill is fast and responsive. Uphill climbing not a huge difference from my 26", but that may be due to me being out of shape. Although locking front fork is a big plus. Shifting and braking is incredible. The Mt.King tires are awesome for muddy winter conditions, but not sure how they will do in dry summer trails. Going tubeless has been fine so far, although I do lose pressure in front for no reason. Love the Hope hubs. Also nice not having to take front tire on and off. Bought a Highroller upright bike mount. Only downside that I have found is the slightly less clearance from the ground to the bottom of crankarm from my 26" bike (about 1 inch). This seems to make a bigger difference going over stuff than I would have thought. Also, I'm still not too sure if I like the extra length of the handlebars. I'll have to wait until I ride more singletrack. Overall, it's a huge upgrade for me, and can't wait to hit the road to trailheads all over the west.

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