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    QR15 Niner carbon fork anyone?

    Anyone else think this would be a good idea?

    I'm contemplating buying a Fox F29 QR15 for a One9 build but I prefer a rigid setup for some trails. Obviously at this point, I need to choose HT only or standard QR dropouts. Unless the fine folks at Niner were to make the carbon fork for QR15. Anyone else want some of that goodness?

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    I am guessing that since that fork is already on the "fragile" side, when compared to other offerings, they wouldn't want to beef it up any with QR15. A 240lb weight limit and a noodly feel doesn't add up to a beefy fork to me. Just my guess.

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    I was thinking from more of a compatibility angle but you're probably on the right path. A fork already designed for the weight conscious is probably not a good candidate for a wheel retention system that adds weight (perceived or real).

    It doesn't take but 2 minutes to convert my hub so it's really not a deal breaker either way. Just throwing it out there for rumination.

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    I am a big fan of the TA systems, they add heaps of stiffness for a small weight penalty. I was preety disappointed with my carbon fork but, I am near the weight limit and I attribute the noodly feeling to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgerat
    I am guessing that since that fork is already on the "fragile" side, when compared to other offerings, they wouldn't want to beef it up any with QR15. A 240lb weight limit and a noodly feel doesn't add up to a beefy fork to me. Just my guess.
    FYI the 240 pound MAX weight limit was lifted, as was the 160mm MAX rotor size.



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    A sled-hammer and a skinny guy on youtube say that this fork is strong as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgerat
    A sled-hammer and a skinny guy on youtube say that this fork is strong as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner Bikes
    FYI the 240 pound MAX weight limit was lifted, as was the 160mm MAX rotor size.



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    The niner fork is noodly? Compared to what?

    Maybe at 155 lbs I'm not giving it much of a workout, but it feels pretty damn stiff to me.

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    Really? A through-axle for a rigid carbon fork? It's a cool enough idea, but the vast majority (i'll take a w.a.g. at 97%) of people who want a Niner carbon fork are going to want to use QR hubs. Why would Niner invest thousands and thousands of dollars in tooling up to make a product that nobody will buy when the factories are already having trouble delivering their products that sell like hotcakes?

    I am sure that you are correct when you guess there are a few people out there that would want something like this, but from a practicality standpoint... File this one under "that's a great idea, you should get started on that and let us know how it goes"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEtheDOG
    Anyone else think this would be a good idea?

    I'm contemplating buying a Fox F29 QR15 for a One9 build but I prefer a rigid setup for some trails. Obviously at this point, I need to choose HT only or standard QR dropouts. Unless the fine folks at Niner were to make the carbon fork for QR15. Anyone else want some of that goodness?
    JAKEtheDOG,

    Sorry at this point we have no plans to make a QR15 carbon fork. We're struggling to fill current demand with the 9mm version in 1 1/8 and tapered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreek
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    2012 Niner Carbon Fork with QR15

    2012 Niner catalog indicates there will be a 15 TA for the carbon fork after all!

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    Don`t hold your breath.
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    The current fork is superstrong and the lightest !
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzybmx View Post
    The current fork is superstrong and the lightest !
    Yea, I was wondering what the real motivation behind the QR15 version was? I have previously read that the 9mm QR in a rigid fork is plenty stiff. Maybe it is to appeal to wheel compatability for people also running a QR15 suspension fork. Or could it be just taking advantage of the QR15 hype?

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    Another possibility might be to buy a Fox fork with conventional 9mm dropouts and use a 9mm thru bolt axle such as Hadley's. You will get your increased stiffness over a QR and you won't have to alter your hubs when you swap forks. The Fox fork will cost less this way too.
    This has worked great for me but I riding a MCR with a steel fork. I would make sure the thru bolt is OK with carbon first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade K View Post
    Another possibility might be to buy a Fox fork with conventional 9mm dropouts and use a 9mm thru bolt axle such as Hadley's. You will get your increased stiffness over a QR and you won't have to alter your hubs when you swap forks. The Fox fork will cost less this way too.
    This has worked great for me but I riding a MCR with a steel fork. I would make sure the thru bolt is OK with carbon first.
    The 9mm conversion is a no brainer IMO.
    I just converted my Hopes and it was easy peasy.



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    I've also done a 9mm thru conversion on my Stan's ZTR wheels, love it!
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    Anyone have more info on this conversion? Is there also a 10mm option? There is for rears I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADDam View Post
    I've also done a 9mm thru conversion on my Stan's ZTR wheels, love it!
    Did you make up custom end caps for the front hub to a fit 9mm thru-axle?
    I noticed Stans sells the thru-axle rear conversion kits for their heavy duty hubs about couldn't find anything for their front hubs.
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    Nice info PUBCRAWL

    Not only the lightest carbon rigid available but the first to take a 15 thru.... game changer !

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    Wow in 2weeks time....we go from no plans on making a 15mm carbon rigid to what looks like finished product......I would have waited for the 15mm. Just got my fork on Tuesday. :/
    thanks

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    Niners participation on MTBR is pretty good, i believe whoever posted for Niner must not have known... or hes not paying attention at work
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    Quote Originally Posted by pedaler845 View Post
    Anyone have more info on this conversion? Is there also a 10mm option? There is for rears I think.
    Standard drop outs will accommodate the 9mm skewer, not 10mm. There are rear conversion caps and skewers for it, but most seem to be bolt on.

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    It all makes more sense when you see which year he posted that comment

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    ooops... sorry Niner!

    Didn't notice the original date of 08-16-2010 04:20 PM on this thread.
    I guess their original reply was a little dated.


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    Still great info, im riding a One9 with a 1 1/8 fork , they will be releasing a new One9 soon and i'll definately get it with a tapered 15mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner Bikes View Post
    JAKEtheDOG,

    Sorry at this point we have no plans to make a QR15 carbon fork. We're struggling to fill current demand with the 9mm version in 1 1/8 and tapered.

    Niner Bikes
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    Why invest all that money when they can't even come close to filling current orders on their existing products.

    People waiting months for forks is beyond stupid. I canceled mine after 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onetrack View Post
    Wow in 2weeks time....we go from no plans on making a 15mm carbon rigid to what looks like finished product......I would have waited for the 15mm. Just got my fork on Tuesday. :/
    thanks
    To be fair, that was 2 weeks + 1 year ago! I started this thread last year. Glad to see this come to fruition. Stiffness and compatibility aside, I just like the interface better.

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    OK, everyone the original post is 1 year old and NINER now have a 15mm thru tapered fork

    Im waiting for the ONE9 change then getting both the frame and fork.
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    I always wanted a thru axle rigid fork, but gave up hope and bought a Niner carbon fork a few months ago. Bummer.

    Any idea if it will be offered in straight 1 1/8? My guess would be tapered only, but one can hope...

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    Are we serious here? People are waiting over 6 months for a fork? I am seriously thinking about converting my racebike to a rigid fork and I would only consider a Niner Carbon Fork for this conversion. Having said that, I wouldn't wait six months for anything in this world, so I am not sure where I am at right now.

    Today, I emailed Niner asking them about availability of the 15TA forks and they said they were available now, but followed by saying they have no idea how long I would be waiting. I don't understand how a business couldn't even estimate a lead time on a production item...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebnash View Post
    I don't understand how a business couldn't even estimate a lead time on a production item...

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    That's the unfortunate nature of outsourced production: the lead time and the whole production schedule is ultimately in the hands of the fabrication company. With carbon fiber exploding in popularity recently the company (or companies) that Niner contracts with probably have a lot of other people looking for product too, and some of those other companies might have more weight to throw around (i.e larger production numbers). It sounds like Niner is getting product made, but it can only trickle out of these plants in small amounts because of the greater demand, hence them being technically available right now but you still waiting because of other people ahead of you in line. Admittedly, this being the main cause of the delays is only semi-informed speculation on my part

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn View Post
    That's the unfortunate nature of outsourced production: the lead time and the whole production schedule is ultimately in the hands of the fabrication company. With carbon fiber exploding in popularity recently the company (or companies) that Niner contracts with probably have a lot of other people looking for product too, and some of those other companies might have more weight to throw around (i.e larger production numbers). It sounds like Niner is getting product made, but it can only trickle out of these plants in small amounts because of the greater demand, hence them being technically available right now but you still waiting because of other people ahead of you in line. Admittedly, this being the main cause of the delays is only semi-informed speculation on my part
    I agree with your speclation but in my professional experience in high tech manufacturing, supply chain effectiveness can make or break a company with regards to moving into a world class level. Hope they get it figured out...

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