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    Paint news from Niner Bikes

    Hey there MTBr Denizens -

    Remember how you were sad when you missed out on the Tang S.I.R. 9? Remember missing out on the original Atomic Blue R.I.P. 9? We still get letters from folks asking about past color schemes, so this time we are giving you a heads up - we are discontinuing several paint options.

    Among them are the Jet 9 in Kermit Green and the S.I.R. 9 and M.C.R. 9 in Gold and Rootbeer. When these colors are gone, they are gone for good. We still have a few left in each size, but if you have your heart set on one of these options, now is your last chance. We have put together some great packages for our dealers, so if you are interested, give them a ring.

    This is also the time to order your Root Beer or Solid Gold carbon fork, if you have plans to get one. We will do one more order on these and then that option is going away, too. Turnaround on this fork order will be prioritized after all existing carbon fork orders and could take some time.

    We aren't going to announce new colors for a while, and no amount of craft beer (heavy on the IPA) shipped directly to the Niner office will change our minds. Or, maybe it will. Anyone want to test the waters? :-)

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    man i thought you were gonna anounce new colors for the wfo9! ah shucks! thanks anyway...

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    more colors

    i widh there were more colors across all the frames. a tamale or black wfo would be great. also there should be a choice of black or silver linds on each suspension frame. a black jet or rip with silver links does not lood as good as it could.
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    just got a wfo9 and will have it re-painted. thinking of atomic blue, just dont tell me this will become a regular color ...

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    Love my Orange SIR9...it grows on me everytime I look at. Can't wait for the new colors!!! Way to change it up Niner...... the carbon frames will have the new colors....yea....
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    my favorite part of all of this is how it voids your warranty if you change the finish in any way. So ridiculous.

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    Great news! Anybody want to buy a CLASSIC XL Rootbeer SIR/Fork, lightly used?

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    So you discontinue all SIRs und MCRs and won´t announce new colors for a while? Thats no clever strategy for selling bikes...
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    OK, my 2 cents.
    I think Niner should permanently keep 5-6 colors:
    - Black
    - Hot Tamale
    - Kermit Green
    - Vana White
    - Tang
    - Atomic Blue

    and offer their steel and alloy frames (in the future carbon too) in all of those colors. That would be little step up in class and
    also add a bit of timelessness to the bikes since Niner doesn't do model year classification and no one could tell how old someone's bike really is.

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    i doubt the sales volumes allow this strategy.

    what about some few colors as standard, and as a custom option all RAL colors with 2 week lead time. let's say $150 extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yo gomez
    So you discontinue all SIRs und MCRs and won´t announce new colors for a while? Thats no clever strategy for selling bikes...
    Sounds to me like they are doing exactly what they say they are doing... giving folks a heads up that they are discontinuing a few existing colors.

    How did you interpret that as some sort of scheme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgerat
    my favorite part of all of this is how it voids your warranty if you change the finish in any way. So ridiculous.
    Wait, what?!

    You serious?

    Niner comment please, will it invalidate my warranty if I paint my puppy **** brown bike.

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    Hey guys, just wanted to chime in on the 'repainting' concerns. Yes, repainting your frame will void the warranty. We're sorry to say that, and at first glance this seems unreasonable, but paint and finish is a very critical step in the production process. We have control over our process and can QC and check what's being done to a frame during painting. If an outside vendor gets one of our frames, we have no control over what's being done to the frame and therefor cannot guarantee what's happening with the frame underneath. For instance, our Scandium frames shouldn't be powder coated, the temperature of the oven for powder coat is significantly higher than for wet paint, and it could effect the frame. We don't know whether somebody else who's getting the frame repainted knows that or not. Secondly, outside vendors could potentially grind too deep, or cover up potential issues with the frame (dings and dents) with bondo and we'd never know about it. If we don't have control over the process, we simply can't verify that the frame underneath is in it's original condition and that any potential warranty claim may have been caused by incorrect frame processing or treatment at a repainting facility. We're sorry if this causes any problems, but hope you understand.

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    My 2 cents: I like bright primary colors. A WFO in bright red, orange, or yellow would be really cool. I'm taking advantage of the current WFO sale and it bums me out to be stuck with "milkdud brown". Every model should have at least one bright color and one boring color. If I had to go with a muted, boring color, I think a nice army green (like the first Surly Big Dummy frames) would be a good color.

    Wait... I know.... PURPLE! That would be mega cool.

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    +1 for blue eyes' opinion
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    Sorry guys, one more amendment to this post: we will not void the warranty if the frame is painted by a painting company who specializes in this application and understands the nuances of painting a frame. Spectrum Powder Works (who also do wet paint) and Hot Tubes are examples of trusted paint companies. Before getting your frame painted by a company, check with us and we'll verify if the painter you're going to use is an authorized paint company.

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    Cyclart?

    Steve,

    How about Cyclart (http://www.cyclart.com)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner Bikes
    Sorry guys, one more amendment to this post: we will not void the warranty if the frame is painted by a painting company who specializes in this application and understands the nuances of painting a frame. Spectrum Powder Works (who also do wet paint) and Hot Tubes are examples of trusted paint companies. Before getting your frame painted by a company, check with us and we'll verify if the painter you're going to use is an authorized paint company.

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    Awesome.... I retract my only negative critique of Niner then....

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    Does every atomic blue painted bike glow in the dark like my one9 ?

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    this is great news - i was just starting to look for a used mcr to have powdercoated but i'll just wait and see if you guys do something nice, like kermit!

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    We're all Niner lovers here right? I'm on my 4th,Niner so I'm not bashing but since we are talking about paint want to mention that my gold Sir gets more paint chips then my kids get zits. You'd have to see my family to understand. There seems to be black primer that shows through and that the paint didn't adhere well to. Was there a bad batch in there somewhere? It just such a contrast, the early silver Ano Rips and the Raw finishes have both been excellent for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spanadu1
    Does every atomic blue painted bike glow in the dark like my one9 ?
    I believe that's the point of the "atomic" in the name. I know my AIR does.


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    Steve, I can understand the concern about PAINTING a frame, but what if someone with a painted frame would strip it to RAW... would that void the warranty?

    Thanks!

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    Sorry guys, one more amendment to this post: we will not void the warranty if the frame is painted by a painting company who specializes in this application and understands the nuances of painting a frame. Spectrum Powder Works (who also do wet paint) and Hot Tubes are examples of trusted paint companies. Before getting your frame painted by a company, check with us and we'll verify if the painter you're going to use is an authorized paint company.

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    larsbaby,

    Yes, this would too. All frames need some sort of protection from the elements, even alloy corrodes when fully exposed. Our 'raw' frames have a clear coat on them. Just stripping a frame to bare aluminum would be detrimental to the frame. In addition, some strippers can actually eat into alloys and other metals, so we couldn't be sure that the person stripping the frame did it correctly. Obviously, the majority of people out there with a head on their shoulders would understand how critical finish and frame prep is, it's not these people that we have to have these rules for. It's the minority who inadvertently cause damage to their frame by stripping and/or painting their frame incorrectly that we have to protect our products from.

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    Harsh crowd. I guess I'm fairly unique in my preference for Milk Dud? I dunno, I saw it in person and had to have one. Different strokes.

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    I was going to get my frame painted by a specialist, but he does cars =-(

    I did not want to risk damaging the frame so not scraping back or heat treating.
    Just a al primer, then spray then lacquer protective coat.

    Anything stupid in the above or advice you can give?

    What paint do you use to do the niner logo, that looks a good primer to me?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnee
    Harsh crowd. I guess I'm fairly unique in my preference for Milk Dud? I dunno, I saw it in person and had to have one. Different strokes.
    Yeah it looks like ****, literally metallic ****.
    dull, boring, ugly.

    I am glad someone likes it though, wish I had gone for white, but the powder coat on my RIP was awful, flaked continuously.


    Am I crazy thinking electric blue?
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    Was there EVER a painted finish that didn't chip like crazy? I have owned way too many bikes and the paint chips off of every one of them. Powder coat is tons more durable but it's more expensive to do cool finishes and doesn't work on some materials, and I doubt we all want to start paying even more for frames than we already do.

    I request metallic Banana Yellow to be added to all frame options. No, really. I like that color.

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    twenty6's orange and fluorescent orange are so cool that I've had daydreams about building a bike around their pedals and stem.
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    My bottle cage fittings came loose after a few months of riding. If I have my LBS repair them will it void my warranty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comanche
    My bottle cage fittings came loose after a few months of riding. If I have my LBS repair them will it void my warranty?
    Only if they are improperly sandblasted and painted before they are re-tightened. In all seriousness, I don't blame Niner for their stance on this, who knows what people would do to a frame prior to painting it. I can't believe that any other company out there would be different.

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    I just picked up a RIP9 in tang and I was hoping to strip the paint like my Intense Spider 29er RAW; there's no clear coat or anything on it. The aluminum oxidizes and protects itself from further corrosion. Turner offers frames this way as well. I'm not sure if the Niner frames are 6xxx or 7xxx series aluminum or what the difference in corrosion resistance may be but my Spider looks as good/bad as the day I got it. It's the ugliest finish I've ever had and it's the one I love the most. I just don't care about the finish. I can already tell the first time I get a nick in the tang I'm going to regret getting a painted frame. I bet the Niner raw will go on sale the week after I get my frame in.

    Is there any DIY warranty-friendly way to strip the paint raw and not have a clear coat?

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    No seriously. The female threaded inserts are loose. I think they have to be drilled out, and new fittings put in.

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    Easy-off oven cleaner takes off anodizing. Just spray it on and wait a while, then wipe off the color. This would void your warranty though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcom
    I just picked up a RIP9 in tang and I was hoping to strip the paint like my Intense Spider 29er RAW; there's no clear coat or anything on it. The aluminum oxidizes and protects itself from further corrosion. Turner offers frames this way as well. I'm not sure if the Niner frames are 6xxx or 7xxx series aluminum or what the difference in corrosion resistance may be but my Spider looks as good/bad as the day I got it. It's the ugliest finish I've ever had and it's the one I love the most. I just don't care about the finish. I can already tell the first time I get a nick in the tang I'm going to regret getting a painted frame. I bet the Niner raw will go on sale the week after I get my frame in.

    Is there any DIY warranty-friendly way to strip the paint raw and not have a clear coat?
    Read post by NINER above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveGiant
    Yeah it looks like ****, literally metallic ****.
    You say that like it's a bad thing.

    OK seriously now, I like it because it's not black (yawn), orange (LOOK AT ME) or raw (harsh). The soft brown will also look pretty good in my living room, when the bike's hung up next to my black leather mid-century modern couch and wood floors. I'm not entirely kidding.

    Besides, I will never ever ever have to hose it off. It's already dirt colored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comanche
    No seriously. The female threaded inserts are loose. I think they have to be drilled out, and new fittings put in.
    Hmm. I wonder. Maybe a company like Niner would have some sort of a place where you could go to talk to one of their representatives directly... like a phone. Or a forum, if you will.

    If you look around, I'm sure you could find something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnee
    Hmm. I wonder. Maybe a company like Niner would have some sort of a place where you could go to talk to one of their representatives directly... like a phone. Or a forum, if you will.

    If you look around, I'm sure you could find something like that.
    That might be to simple of a solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    Was there EVER a painted finish that didn't chip like crazy?
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    YEAH, every other bike I have ever owned, ever.

    Nothing chipped like that RIP, there are probably some photos on this forum that somone may be kind enough to link. That RIP9 coat was just terrible, embarrasing.

    That is why I went for the very ugly brown even when there was a pretty white on offer.
    I did not want to risk another RIP9 dissapointment.


    Niner, any chance you could answer my questions above? (repeated below)

    1: I am taking my frame to a specialist in doing custom paint jobs on cars.
    I do not want to risk damaging the frame, so no strip. Just primer then spray then laquer.
    Is this the best approach, or can you reccomend something better?

    2: the niner logo looks painted on, what paint did you use, I think it would make a great primer.

    3: would electric blue or fluorescent pink look awesome or stupid?
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    Guess I wont be stripping my tang and probably cover up the frame with some 3M clear tape from fleabay. Seems cheap enough for some peace of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveGiant
    Niner, any chance you could answer my questions above? (repeated below)
    I have noticed that you post questions and if we don't respond within a certain amount of time, repeat them or become frustrated and/or worried that we are not willing to answer your queries. While we do try to check in with the forums/facebook on a fairly regular basis, this isn't the right place if you need a timely response or if your question requires some back and forth conversation to resolve.

    Our direct customer service line or our direct customer service email address is much faster and we are more than happy to help you figure out the answers to your questions via a conversation with a person who can address your specific situation and ask for any necessary follow up info. You can find those contact points here contact page.

    Per your questions, as Steve said above,

    "we will not void the warranty if the frame is painted by a painting company who specializes in this application and understands the nuances of painting a frame. Spectrum Powder Works (who also do wet paint) and Hot Tubes are examples of trusted paint companies. Before getting your frame painted by a company, check with us and we'll verify if the painter you're going to use is an authorized paint company."


    We cannot know if your selected paint company fits this description without knowing who they are. This would be best addressed via an email to info@ninerbikes.com with containing your selected painter's contact info and painting methods. You may want to start with the info provided by Steve above, take this to your painter and ask them if they can comply. We don't recommend riding a bike that has been improperly handled by an inexperienced paint company.

    As for your second question, none of our Niner logos are painted on. This is a decal process.

    And finally, all that matters is that you like the color of your bike if you are going to pay to have it changed!

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    cave giant i love this color from the new nike lunar glides+2 sneakers i brought. the color is call volt, if i was gonna paint my wfo it would be that color, its an eye catching you should do it!
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    Carla,

    Do you have a preference for an IPA? Does a nice cold Arrogant Bastard work for you, or a Stones IPA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner Bikes
    Sorry guys, one more amendment to this post: we will not void the warranty if the frame is painted by a painting company who specializes in this application and understands the nuances of painting a frame. Spectrum Powder Works (who also do wet paint) and Hot Tubes are examples of trusted paint companies. Before getting your frame painted by a company, check with us and we'll verify if the painter you're going to use is an authorized paint company.

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    This is classy, bravo fellas. I understand the void the warranty thing and wouldn't expect you to cover someone else's butt, but spec'ing a few shops to let people go ahead with refinishing is really cool of you.

    My frame doesn't have a warranty, bought second hand with no use on it, so haha to all of you worried about losing your warranty! Just don't start with one The black is too nice to change right now, but i think raw is the ultimate finish and wouldn't mind swapping to that at some point

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaveGiant
    1: I am taking my frame to a specialist in doing custom paint jobs on cars.
    I do not want to risk damaging the frame, so no strip. Just primer then spray then laquer.
    Is this the best approach, or can you reccomend something better?
    I'm no expert, but if you are talking about painting over the existing paint (since you said not stripping it), then I would think any painter who knows what he's doing would tell you that's not likely to work. First off, paint or primer isn't going to stick well to the clear coat. Secondly (and I can't recall if you said this or not), if you are putting new paint over paint that is having chipping problems, that's not going to improve things. The paint underneath that isn't sticking well to the metal is still not going to be stuck to the metal and will chip about as easily as it does now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner Bikes
    some strippers can actually eat into alloys and other metals

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyBoy
    Carla,

    Do you have a preference for an IPA? Does a nice cold Arrogant Bastard work for you, or a Stones IPA?
    Those are both excellent. Also a fan of Lagunitas Hop Stoopid and Epic Hopulent. Heh.
    Or, you could just wait a few days...
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