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    OFFICIAL: JET9 Picture and Setup Thread

    Please post pictures and set up of your JET 9's


    My name is Shawn and I am a mechanic at Wheeler Dealer Bicycles in Oklahoma City. The Jet has just hit dealers and I would like to see pics of yours. Here are a few pics of my Jet that I finished today. No dirty pics yet, we had a ton of rain yesterday and a tornado or two so it will be a bit till I get to ride. I am running Sram XO shifters, R der, XTR F der, Truvativ Noir crank, Thomson seatpost and stem, Salsa carbon bar, Avid Juicy Ultimate brakes, Sram pg 991 chain and cassette, Mavic Crossmax tubless with Hutchinson Python tires took lots o stans to get to hold, probably weighs as much as a tube but oh well, King headset, Fizik gobi saddle, Candy Sl pedals, Rockshox Reba SL. I even went as far as to install Jagwire cables and black aluminum cage bolts. Can you say OCD. Bike weighed in at 26.5 but I didnt think it was that bad because my Surly KM weighs 27. Hope you enjoy and please post yours.
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    Just finished mine

    I'm still waiting on the correct fork (black Reba U-turn), but the rest of the build is complete. 26.85 lbs as it sits right now. Don't see it getting any lighter.

    I've ridden it around the driveway and down the street. All the trails are wet down here right now. First impressions..... tight steering, suspension handles out of the saddle sprints REALLY well, and I didn't even come close to clipping a toe on the front wheel doing tight turns in the drive (and I was trying to clip a toe). Front end felt light when trying to manual and it struck me that it was pretty quiet for a full suspension ride.

    Build:
    Medium Licorice Jet9

    Acros headset (boy is it smooth!)
    Acros ceramic bottom bracket
    FSA K-force light carbon cranks
    FSA carbon setback seatpost
    FSA OS99 stem
    FSA carbon bar
    Sram XO triggers
    Avid Juicy Ultimate 185 F&R
    Sram matchmaker
    Sram 990 cassette 11-34
    Sram XO rear mech
    Shimano XTR front mech
    Shimano XT chain
    I9 wheels (red hubs, black spokes) laced to Stan's Arch hoops
    Maxxis Igniter tires setup tubeless with yellow tape and valve
    Fizik Gobi custom color saddle - red and black
    Salsa red QR skewers
    ESI silicone grips
    Crank Brothers eggbeater pedals






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    Good job! A potential winner of the 08 BEST of MTBR...

    -Main purpose: XC racing and riding full speed ahead
    -Trail location/terrain: Eastern Canada (rolling hills, rocks, roots, single track etc)
    -Frame Year/Size/Color: 08/Medium/Black
    -Rider Weight: 175
    -Rider Height/Inseam: 5'10"/33"
    -Stem (length/rise): Easton EA30, 105mm, 6 deg negative, no spacer underneath.
    -Seatpost: Thomson Elite 410mm silver
    -Handlebar: Raceface RIDE XC lo-rise 605mm
    -Rear Shock: Stock RP23
    -Rear settings (psi, etc.): 135psi, fastest rebound
    -Fork: Reba Race 100mm travel
    -Fork settings (psi, etc.): 135/125 pos/neg. fastest rebound.
    -Brake Setup: Avid Juicy 7, Hayes Rotors 160mm.
    -Drivetrain Setup: 3x9 FSA V-drive cranket, Shifters SRAM X-9. front Deore, rear SRAM X-0, Cassette PG-991 11-34T
    -Saddle: Selle Italia Signo
    -Tires: Bontrager Jone XR 1.8
    -Wheels: C29ssmax
    -Pedals: Shimano PD-M520
    -Build Weight: 26 lbs

    -Future Changes: Xpedo Mag/Ti pedals
    -Comments, etc: Fast like a HT but comfortable like a FS. Flickable. Quick uphill. I was sceptic about it and thought it wouldn't be much different from the RIP but WOW I was so wrong ! Nevermind its weight and try this speed weapon. You will see the light. This bike is really XC racing oriented and wants to go full throttle. Congratulations to Niner !
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    Gotta hand it to you, I don't have the nerve to run tires that are that skinny. What did your build weigh in at?

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    First ride and dirty pic

    The Jet is very fast as expected, but what I didn’t expect was how smooth and efficient it is. The bike pedals great with no bob or flex and at 200 lbs I expected a little. The Jet is an efficient climber, steers quick and precise and is oh so smooth. The only 29er I can really compare it to is my Surly KM and after ridding the Jet, I felt like I have been riding a beach cruiser for 2 years. I work at a shop and we carry other brands of 29ers but the Jet certainly kills the competition. Bottom line the Jet is extremely fast, handles great and is very smooth. If you get a chance to throw a leg over one, do it, you won’t be disappointed.
    Bike set-up:
    145psi positive and negative
    160 psi rear shock
    35psi in both tires
    Trail was tacky, a ton of exposed roots with a few mud holes
    I also think the bike is so fast that mud does'nt stick to it, but who knows.


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    Two things

    Is anyone routing the rear der cable on the inside of rear triangle?

    The top bottle mount bolts are not even close to center line of the down tube. It makes my bottle cage noticable off center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtompilot
    Is anyone routing the rear der cable on the inside of rear triangle?
    no, I routed them just like everyone else. The little cable holder widget seems to be working pretty good so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by jtompilot
    The top bottle mount bolts are not even close to center line of the down tube. It makes my bottle cage noticable off center.
    This is probably a good thing, my large bottle barely fits as is.

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    Smile JET9 added to my Niner Stable

    My Jet9 arrived at The Bike Lane in Burke Virginia early last week. Loren at the Bike Lane built it up with the following spec:

    Fox F29 Fork
    Full XT Build Kit including Hydros, Cranks,FD and Shadow Rear Der
    Hope Hubs and Headset
    Thompson Seatpost and stem
    Bontrager Race X Lite Carbon Handlebar
    Stans Arch wheels with Maxxis Ignitors and Stans sealant
    Time ATAC pedals and Bontrager saddle for now Fizik Gobi XM on order

    <img src="http://www.more-mtb.org/galleries/gal_imgs/2/dsc_0272small.jpg" alt="Niner Jet 9" />

    I really like the way the cables are routed vs the Rip9.

    <img src="http://www.more-mtb.org/galleries/gal_imgs/2/dsc_0259resize.jpg" alt="Closeup" />

    I bought the RIP9 last year to race in the National XTERRA series of off road triathlons. I finished 2nd in the Mid Atlantic Region and qualified for the Nationals in Lake Tahoe. My RIP9 arrived the week I placed 5th in the Nationals. I raced the RIP at XTERRA World's in Maui finishing 10th. The RIP absolutely rocked at World's and I passed a bunch of people both on the up hlls and downhills of the 20 mile course.

    Since I primarily race XTERRA MTB Courses I wanted to have the Jet9 instead. A good friend of mine bought the RIP9 frame from me and I ordered the JET. Since it was not going to ship before the end of April, I bought the MCR9 and put all my parts from the RIP on it.

    <img src="http://www.more-mtb.org/galleries/gal_imgs/2/dsc_1759resize_567495.jpg" alt="Scud's Niner Bikes" />

    The MCR hadles almost as well as the RIP so I expect to ride it as much as the Jet for just leisurely XC riding. I took the MCR to my first XTERRA Race of the season last week and it it totally rocked. I was almost last out of the swim but thanks to the MCR's handling I passed all the people in 55-59 age group and hung on in the run to take 1st place and 40th overall. I cannot remember going so fast downhill over rocks and roots. I can only imagine what the Jet9 will do.

    As soon as the trails dry out I will test it out. My next race in the 1st weeknd of June on a very rooty course.

    Stay tuned

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    Is anyone routing the rear der cable on the inside of rear triangle?
    I did it but the cable was rubbing against the front derailleur. No more rubbing with the outside routing.

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    Good job! my green monster

    The awesome crew at Venture Sports (Brian and Fish) got the build together on friday the 05.09.08. It snowed the 10th (still rode 20 miles in the afternoon) and have averaged about 15-20 a day. (have about 60 miles) The bike just straight up flies. I am a big dude and I think it is the most comfortable bike I have ridden. The build kit I chose was to hopefully support my heavy ass and it seems to be working. The DT Swiss rims are a little concern to me, I wanted the CrossMax (to those who have them... what do you think?) I might be changing???? They do flex a bit but only noticeable on down hill fire roads and big ring road sprints. The bike loves Single track. I also am impressed on how you can just stand and pound like a hard tail (other bike is a SS 29). Should be a great race bike and all day epic ride.

    One issue i can see, but not a biggy, is mud clearance. That first ride was muddy and the mud did build up, but I think that is a tire issue more than a frame issue. It is usually dusty here not muddy so I am really not too concerned.

    I do love everything about this bike... IT IS RAD! (even the green!)

    DT Swiss CenterLock Adap tor*Converts to 6 bolt*
    Crank Bros EggBeater SL Pedal
    Deore XT M770 175mm 4arm Crank 22-32-44 w/BB
    SRAM 08 X.0 Medium cage rear derailluer
    XT M771 Trad Dual-pull Multi clamp Front Der
    SRAM PG990 9spd 11-34 cassette
    SRAM PC991 9spd chain Silver/Silver
    Avid 08 Juicy 7 185mm frt disc brake Graphite
    Avid 08 Juicy 7 160mm rear disc brake Graphite
    SRAM X.0 Trigger shifter set
    DT Swiss Front 29'r 700c CenterLock X470
    DT Swiss Rear 29'er 700c 135mm CenterLock X470
    King 1-1/8" NoThread Blk
    Thomson 30.9 x 410mm Blk seatpost
    Salsa Pro Moto Flat Bar 31.8 17dx710mm Blk
    Thomson Elite x4 110 90 degree
    WTB Rocket V Pro Saddle Black NiCro Rails
    Geax Saguaro 29x2.2 Blk Folding
    Geax Saguaro 29x2.2 Blk Folding
    Manitou Minute 29 (120)
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    mud clearance

    I too noticed that mud might be an issue withthe Jet9. I had a little of it with my RIP9 but not a problem with the MCR. I did see someone fabricate a mud guard for the RIP9 out of a piece if old inner tube. I could only see doing that for a race that has to be run when it is muddy. Training rides and just fun rides I stay off muddy trails in general.

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    New question here. Jet9's RP23 air pressure settings

    I noticed that Menzo posted 135# of air pressure @ 175# rider weight.

    Couple of questions:
    1. What is everyone else setting theirs at and for what rider weight?
    2. Menzo, what made you go so low on the air pressure?
    3. Anybody see recommended air pressure anywhere from Niner? I looked on the web site and didn't see anything, and my frame didn't come with any sort of manual.


    I thought the old rule of thumb was air pressure equals rider weight for the RP23. The fox online manual indicates various sag measurements as the way to go, but I didn't see anything specific for 3.1" of travel.

    Thanks!

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    Couldn't find a set up guide for the rear shock. Nothing came with my frame except the CD. I used 80% of body weight as my starting point. As a mechanic I have used this many times on customers bikes and usually come out golden. Specialized has the sag gauge and it was right on when I compared it to setting the rear shock at 80%. Try it as a starting point and then tweak to your liking.

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    Give www.foxracingshox.com a try, they have all the set up info you should need...

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    Nope...........

    ......not with that leverage ratio it ain't Try somewhere around 70-80% geared weight, or about 15-20% SAG depending on how you like it to ride. Set SAG with Pro Pedal off.

    Quote Originally Posted by kstine71
    I noticed that Menzo posted 135# of air pressure @ 175# rider weight.

    Couple of questions:
    1. What is everyone else setting theirs at and for what rider weight?
    2. Menzo, what made you go so low on the air pressure?
    3. Anybody see recommended air pressure anywhere from Niner? I looked on the web site and didn't see anything, and my frame didn't come with any sort of manual.


    I thought the old rule of thumb was air pressure equals rider weight for the RP23. The fox online manual indicates various sag measurements as the way to go, but I didn't see anything specific for 3.1" of travel.

    Thanks!

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    Menzo, what made you go so low on the air pressure?
    Anybody see recommended air pressure anywhere from Niner? I looked on the web site and didn't see anything, and my frame didn't come with any sort of manual.
    I used the Suspension Set-Up Tips of the RIP9 on the Niner web site and instead of 2/3 of my riding weight I set the air pressure at 3/4 (roughly 135 psi). Here is the link, there is a nice table and good explanations. 135 psi is 77% of my rider weight which is not low pressure, according to me, Kstine71 ?

    http://www.ninerbikes.com/rip9suspension.html
    For the RIP9
    160-180 lbs = 120 psi
    180-200 lbs = 135 psi

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    Thanks for the feedback on the rear air settings folks.

    Menzo, if using the RIP9 settings as a starting point then I can see why you set your pressure the way you did. I had set mine up to 185# of pressure with 185# rider weight and I liked the feel of the bike.

    I just wanted to be sure I wasn't going outside of the mechanical limits of the rockers by having to much air in the chamber.

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    Has anyone tried a 100mm fork or is everyone using the 80mm recommended by niner- I have a frame on order and will post the build once it gets built up - (waiting for #2 production run) - I read where some believe the RIP is better with a bit longer travel fork than recommended and wondered if there was any thoughts on this for the Jet. I will predominantly be riding XC but have some longer enduro races scheduled this summer - and thought that the relaxed geometry might be nice - but did not want to adversely effect the ride - any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.

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    Good job!

    i have a 120 manitou minute... and it is AWESOME!!!!!!!
    the front end stays planted nicely on the steepest climbs and bomber on downhill.

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    I'm running a 100 mm Fox and couldn't be happier. I raced it this weekend and it ripped through the technical singletrack; I don't feel I've lost any maneuverability or handling quickness with this setup, just gained a little extra plush.

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    The first JET in Israel

    The first Jet in Israel
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    Hope

    Nice, so I see in your profile you also have a RIP9, have anythoughts about the two?

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    The Jet is much faster

    and give you the feel of racing!!

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    Small Jet

    Pics to follow.

    -Main purpose: XC and All Mountain riding.
    -Trail location/terrain: Western NY. 1000ft + climbs, then down...repeat. Fast XC too.
    -Frame Year/Size/Color: 08/Small/Black
    -Rider Weight: 200
    -Rider Height/Inseam: 5'9"/31"
    -Stem (length/rise): Thomson, 100mm, 0 deg negative, 10mm spacer underneath
    -Seatpost: Thomson Elite 410mm Black Setback
    -Handlebar: FSA K-Force Riser 630mm
    -Rear Shock: Stock RP23
    -Rear settings (psi, etc.): 150psi, still no bottom
    -Fork: F29 100mm
    -Fork settings (psi, etc.): 80psi. 4 clicks rebound
    -Brake Setup: New XTR Front Rotor 180mm, rear 160mm.
    -Drivetrain Setup: New XTR, Shifters new XTR Dual Control. front updated version new XTR, rear new XTR RR, Cassette new XTR 11-34T
    -Chain: SRAM
    -Cables: Nokon
    -Saddle: Fizik Gobi
    -Seatpost clamp: Syntace
    -Tires: Bontrager Jones ACX 2.2. Stans juice. 31psi front, 33psi rear
    -Wheels: I9 custom. Heavier Stans rim rear. Ti rotor bolts. New XTR skewers
    -Pedals: Shimano new XTR
    -Grips: ESI race
    -Bottle bolts: Ti
    -Build Weight: 26.3 lbs

    Future- Will try the lower offset Reba dual-air. Also attempting to install 20t front on new XTR. Bike is quick and requires attention. Feels plush. Fastest FS 29er I've ridden up hills.

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    ... and if we just ... Here's Mine

    The fastest I have ever gone on a bike - was on this Jet! Greenhorn trail - sawtooth mountains.
    Jet1.jpg

    I started with leftovers from a GF 292 - like the Reba Race, handlebars, stem, brakes etc. I replaced the crankset with XT, added XTR pedals, thompson seatpost, Sram 9 derailer and chain, nice red Chris King headset and most importantly an Industry 9 wheel set (red hubs and black spokes) with Stans ZTR running Maxxis Ignitors tubeless. Weighs in at about 27 lbs - very respectable I thought.

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    I didn't read about the "recall" on the pivot arms until after I got back from pounding the hell out of the frame in Idaho - good thing nothing came apart on me! I had no issues with the frame at all - except in keeping it form going out of control from too much SPEED (wore out a set of brake pads!)

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    Is it possbile for the Jet9 to achieve a fighting weight of sub 25lbs? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodshow Industries
    Is it possbile for the Jet9 to achieve a fighting weight of sub 25lbs? Thanks
    Mine is 26 on the button. I don't think I have over a pound savings in mine. Search my post "jet9 & lefty"

    -matt

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    There's not much room for savings once you get past the wheel set/tires etc. You get down to a $200 seat post that saves 1/2 an oz or something. You might achieve that weight by spending the big bucks on that kind of stuff. There must be some super light cranksets out there as well, although if you plan on pounding it (like I do) then most of that light stuff will break regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodshow Industries
    Is it possbile for the Jet9 to achieve a fighting weight of sub 25lbs? Thanks
    yes yes quite possible. unfortunatly the last couple of pounds are the most expensive to be done right building a ridable bike.

    edge wheelset(order them from mikesee), ti bolts thoughout, carbon seatpost, xtr cranks if you are not there already, formula oro brakes, saddle is a tough one as no light weight saddle is comfortable to me(your call), the rest is little stuff that will add up if you change them all:
    foam girps
    alligator cables
    carbon barends
    seat collar bolt on
    sqewers
    tubless tires
    hollow pin chain


    i don't see why you can't get down to 21-22 lbs if ya got the cash and still have a bike that can be ridden hard.

    btw my white jet9 with some of the above will be posted sometime in dec.
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    I think you're dreaming there dude, REALLY To get the JET9 under 24lbs would take some serious effort and I'm not so sure how reliable it would be or how crappy it would ride/feel. Remember that the frame weighs over 6lbs alone.

    Quote Originally Posted by OilcanRacer
    yes yes quite possible. unfortunatly the last couple of pounds are the most expensive to be done right building a ridable bike.............................................. ............

    i don't see why you can't get down to 21-22 lbs if ya got the cash and still have a bike that can be ridden hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    I think you're dreaming there dude, REALLY To get the JET9 under 24lbs would take some serious effort and I'm not so sure how reliable it would be or how crappy it would ride/feel. Remember that the frame weighs over 6lbs alone.



    ....huh? you can think whatever you want, but my current 22 lbs hardtail has been raced hard and hasn't seen any break down issues. parts will take more abuse on a hardtail than on a full sus bike. I didn't even have to spend that much or go to excess to meet my wieght/strength goals.

    a jet9 just under 24 lbs is very reachable. under 22 lbs would be a trade off or very very expensive to do. i would be happy to get as close as possible to 24 lbs and use the rest of the money on trips or other bikes.


    btw..... how does a lighter bike make it feel "crappy ride/feel"?
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    Great looking bikes. All you lucky owners - how about some more feedback on riding impressions - especially if you've owned the bike for a while and have been able to spend some time on it. Keep em coming.

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    Hey all... I'm pretty much a mtbr lurker, but thought I would chime in a bit regarding my jet 9 I received (finally!) last month.

    Though I've only put 150-ish miles on it, I think it's the most fun I've had on a bike in quite a while. I guess I'm pretty much echoing what everyone has said about the ride quality... it feels stiff/pretty darn efficient while climbing in the saddle and out, and very plush and forgiving in technical environments. It handles fast, but it's far from what I would consider 'twitchy' - something I was concerned about. I have the rp23 set at approx 78-ish percent of my body weight (150 lbs) and it seems to be right on.

    As you've probably guessed I ride strictly XC terrain, no drops over a couple-few feet, and those are occasional at best. I do ride through a lot of rocky and techy terrain here, being in southern TN. The bike just feels good, I am very confident in the saddle and it seems solid. I think the jet feels a bit more like a trail bike than a straight up XC racing bike... but it's roots are definitely XC and I think it will make an excellent race/enduro ride, as well as an everyday trail/xc bike.

    I am noticing a bit of creaking when I am standing up and cranking... I haven't been able to isolate the creaks yet though, we all know it could be any number of things.

    Here's a bit of info:

    M 08 Jet 9
    Kermit Green
    Stans 355 rims
    American Classic Hubs
    DT Comp spokes
    RS Reba
    King headset
    Thompson (90mm) stem
    Ritchey Low Rizer bar
    Shimano XTR brakes
    Shimano XTR pedals
    Shimano XT front d.
    Shimano XT 11-32 cassette
    Hope Rotors
    Sram XO gripshift
    Sram XO rear d.
    Sram 991 Hollow-pin chain
    Race Face Dues XC crank / team rings
    Race Face carbon seat post
    Some old sette sadle
    Nokon cables
    Stan's Crow rear tire
    Stan's Raven rear tire
    Cut-off ergon gx-1s

    26.5 lbs.











    Time will tell, but thus far it is very smooth, plush feeling when need be, and fast. Regarding the Stan's tires... Some will love them, some will hate them. I think I love them, but I just need more time on them. I am running the front around 22 psi and the rear around 24 psi and haven't had much issue with them. The only time you feel any resistance with that low pressure is when you are climbing, but it's pretty minimal. The traction makes up for it. I used a crow up front for a bit, but found it a bit sketchy.. The raven is a great improvement.

    It took a few months to get this frame in to my LBS, but as of now I think it was well worth the wait.

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    nice jet dantastic,


    i could suggest taking the suspension joints apart, wiping them down and regreasing them. if you are still creaking. take your crank arms off, apply some locktite to the isis arms to fill in any gaps, reapply the crank arms and let it sit for a day to dry.

    those are the most common. good luck and fun riding

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantastic
    I am noticing a bit of creaking when I am standing up and cranking... I haven't been able to isolate the creaks yet though, we all know it could be any number of things.
    Check to see that the BB shell has been faced properly. I just bought an 08 RIP and factory facing was nothing short of terrible.

    Face the BB properly and I bet your creaking will go away.

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    Nice Jet, very close to my dream build. I would run it 1x9 and maybe get some lighter brakes and saddle. Should come down to just under 25 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantastic
    Hey all... I'm pretty much a mtbr lurker, but thought I would chime in a bit regarding my jet 9 I received (finally!) last month.

    Though I've only put 150-ish miles on it, I think it's the most fun I've had on a bike in quite a while. I guess I'm pretty much echoing what everyone has said about the ride quality... it feels stiff/pretty darn efficient while climbing in the saddle and out, and very plush and forgiving in technical environments. It handles fast, but it's far from what I would consider 'twitchy' - something I was concerned about. I have the rp23 set at approx 78-ish percent of my body weight (150 lbs) and it seems to be right on.

    As you've probably guessed I ride strictly XC terrain, no drops over a couple-few feet, and those are occasional at best. I do ride through a lot of rocky and techy terrain here, being in southern TN. The bike just feels good, I am very confident in the saddle and it seems solid. I think the jet feels a bit more like a trail bike than a straight up XC racing bike... but it's roots are definitely XC and I think it will make an excellent race/enduro ride, as well as an everyday trail/xc bike.

    I am noticing a bit of creaking when I am standing up and cranking... I haven't been able to isolate the creaks yet though, we all know it could be any number of things.

    Here's a bit of info:

    M 08 Jet 9
    Kermit Green
    Stans 355 rims
    American Classic Hubs
    DT Comp spokes
    RS Reba
    King headset
    Thompson (90mm) stem
    Ritchey Low Rizer bar
    Shimano XTR brakes
    Shimano XTR pedals
    Shimano XT front d.
    Shimano XT 11-32 cassette
    Hope Rotors
    Sram XO gripshift
    Sram XO rear d.
    Sram 991 Hollow-pin chain
    Race Face Dues XC crank / team rings
    Race Face carbon seat post
    Some old sette sadle
    Nokon cables
    Stan's Crow rear tire
    Stan's Raven rear tire
    Cut-off ergon gx-1s

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    Time will tell, but thus far it is very smooth, plush feeling when need be, and fast. Regarding the Stan's tires... Some will love them, some will hate them. I think I love them, but I just need more time on them. I am running the front around 22 psi and the rear around 24 psi and haven't had much issue with them. The only time you feel any resistance with that low pressure is when you are climbing, but it's pretty minimal. The traction makes up for it. I used a crow up front for a bit, but found it a bit sketchy.. The raven is a great improvement.

    It took a few months to get this frame in to my LBS, but as of now I think it was well worth the wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    Nice Jet, very close to my dream build. I would run it 1x9 and maybe get some lighter brakes and saddle. Should come down to just under 25 lbs.
    First, thanks for the compliments and advice all... and flafonta, my thoughts exactly, just some more goodies to purchase in the future. I weighed it on a buddies digital scale today and it said 25.7 lbs.. Lighter that what I came up with on my high tech bathroom scale. Getting a F29, lighter saddle, lighter brakes and running 1x9 should get it lighter than I expected it to be. Not that I will notice any difference.. But I will just know it's lighter.

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    New Jet 9 !!!

    Long-time lurker - finally have something to say!

    Picked up my new Jet 9 this week and hit a trail yesterday. It's my second mountain bike (first is a 7 year old entry-level 26" hardtail), my first 29er, and my first full suspension.

    Rode a typical trail for my area: mix of hardpack, rocks, roots, small ups and downs, lots of turns. At the end, I asked myself: "Why didn't you get a FS 29er sooner?" This was a new level of speed WITH CONTROL that I hadn't experienced before. The big wheels seemed right for my height (6'4") - felt more "in" the bike than "over" it.

    Setup:
    Jet 9 XL, Fox RP23
    Reba Race
    Hope headset
    Race Face Evolve stem and bar
    Ergons
    Avid BB7s, 160mm, SD-7 levers
    XT shifters, derailleurs and crankset
    SRAM 990 chain and cassette
    Time Alium
    WTB Laserdisc Trail
    Continental Mountain King 2.4
    Thomson post, Salsa Liplock
    SI Flite Gel

    Many thanks to Watts, Matt and Andy at Friendly Bike in Greensboro, NC! And thanks to all mtbr.com posters for your knowledge and information.

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    Jet 9 under 25lbs.

    Crossmax 29er wheelset
    Specialized Captain S works
    Stans sealant
    Control Tech Ti skewers
    Reba SL fork
    American Classic headset
    Truvativ Team stem
    Ritchey WCS rizer bar
    Ergon grips
    Winwood seat post clamp
    Easton EC70 post
    Specialized Phenom SL saddle
    Magura Marta brakes
    Hope Mono Mini two piece rotors
    FSA K Force Lite crankset
    Crank Brothers Candy 4 ti pedals
    KMC X9SL chain
    Dura Ace 12/27 cassette
    XTR Shadow rear derailleur
    XTR M971 front derailler
    Blackburn Carbon bottle cage
    Aluminum cage bolts
    Ti bolts in stem/brake calipers

    Current Weight on my Ultimate Digital Scale = 24.88 lbs.

    Previously with foam grips,Flite SLR saddle, and no bottle cage =24.58 lbs.

    My EMD9 = 22.24 lbs.

    I ride it regularly and have raced it twice, I think its pretty trail ready, no absurdly light components that can't take a hard ride. I'm 175 lbs.

    There would seem to be room to get it down under 24 lbs. with an infusion of cash.
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    Is it possbile for the Jet9 to achieve a fighting weight of sub 25lbs?
    Just had a custom Jet built at my LBS popped it on the scale today 25.5 lbs with pedals. Unfortunately I can't bring it home yet. The bike has tubes in it but when I get it I'll convert to tubeless. Usually that will take off 200-250 grams. The bike in race form should be right at the 25lb mark. I'm pretty happy with that.

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    Here is mine. Have yet to ride it on the dirt though.
    Also regarding the weight, check this out... a 22.97 lbs Jet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiderInTraining
    Here is mine. Have yet to ride it on the dirt though.
    Also regarding the weight, check this out... a 22.97 lbs Jet.


    Can you provide the full part list? That is one nice bike, and very light.

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    That weight he listed is NOT for his bike, it is for the proto type Jet9 built up by Niner early last year for Sea Otter using a lot loighter parts spec. With the weight increase from originally stated by Niner between proto type and production frames there was a 1/2lb weight gain, plus he's using a WB fork which would prob add another 1/2lb. Then he's running a very smart, fast and reliable tyre combo, but not as light as Niners which would also add another 1/2lb over the Niner build, also add on the Ergon grips and that's another 1/4-1/2lb.

    So realisticaly looking around 25.5lbs for his Small framed JET.

    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    Can you provide the full part list? That is one nice bike, and very light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    ... So realisticaly looking around 25.5lbs for his Small framed JET.
    LyNx is absolutely right. This weight is not for my bike, sorry that I didn't make that clearer. This frame is a medium not a small though... adds even more weight.

    I rode an EMD before this one, which is a 2 lbs lighter frame. I can tell you on the weekend if this was a smart move or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    That weight he listed is NOT for his bike, it is for the proto type Jet9 built up by Niner early last year for Sea Otter using a lot loighter parts spec. With the weight increase from originally stated by Niner between proto type and production frames there was a 1/2lb weight gain, plus he's using a WB fork which would prob add another 1/2lb. Then he's running a very smart, fast and reliable tyre combo, but not as light as Niners which would also add another 1/2lb over the Niner build, also add on the Ergon grips and that's another 1/4-1/2lb.

    So realisticaly looking around 25.5lbs for his Small framed JET.
    Okay, LyNx - give me a target weight for my weight weenie XL size JET 9. I figure I can hit the mid 25.x's with the stuff I've got in my garage and on my Sugar, but I may turn this into a special project that nets me sub 25. That would require new brakes, but I just don't think I'm ready to pony up for that new DT Swiss fork to cut 100 grams or so.

    Anyway, I'm hoping for something between 25-26 with the goodies I already own. The consensus I'm getting over on the 29"er board is that the older Reba forks with the 38mm offset is the "best" way to go. Does anybody else have any thoughts on that? I'll probably start with 80mm for quick handling in the tight stuff.

    No build pictures yet. All I've got is the frame which should be shipped this coming week.

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    I already posted this in the 29er forum but

    I figured I had to post it in the niner forum where it belongs.
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    Nice, really nice what I think would totally "finish" it off is a silver Thomson stem instead of the black This is the first black frame I have seen using the silver and red accents and I think it looks killer :thumbus: I think the semi dull finish of the rockers go well against the similar finish on the Thomson post, looking forward to seeing it if you go with the silver stem.

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    I figured I had to post it in the niner forum where it belongs.
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    So are you gona strip everything off the Sugar BB? I know that if you go weight weenie on a built it's normally fairly far out there, but, you do not go over the top with stupid expensive for 25g type stuff. Not sure what the Sugar frames weigh, but the XL JET9 is somewhere around 6.75lbs as far as I remember from reading, so with "your" sort of build I think you could easily hit 25.5lbs, getting below 25lbs I think would cost quite a bit and would be a bit on the questionable side reliability wise. Looking forward to see what you come up with.

    As to the fork, if it were me I would definitely have to go with the newer Rebas, greater offset and stiffer chasis. I just made the move to a Manitou 120mm TA and it's huge how much better it feels, the precision in the steering is just fantastic - I like tech so this realy is what I look for. I'd consider going for the QR version and then use a DT RWS on it to help stiffen it up a bit more.

    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Okay, LyNx - give me a target weight for my weight weenie XL size JET 9. I figure I can hit the mid 25.x's with the stuff I've got in my garage and on my Sugar, but I may turn this into a special project that nets me sub 25. That would require new brakes, but I just don't think I'm ready to pony up for that new DT Swiss fork to cut 100 grams or so.

    Anyway, I'm hoping for something between 25-26 with the goodies I already own. The consensus I'm getting over on the 29"er board is that the older Reba forks with the 38mm offset is the "best" way to go. Does anybody else have any thoughts on that? I'll probably start with 80mm for quick handling in the tight stuff.

    No build pictures yet. All I've got is the frame which should be shipped this coming week.

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    I started to order a silver one

    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Nice, really nice what I think would totally "finish" it off is a silver Thomson stem instead of the black This is the first black frame I have seen using the silver and red accents and I think it looks killer :thumbus: I think the semi dull finish of the rockers go well against the similar finish on the Thomson post, looking forward to seeing it if you go with the silver stem.
    but I was afraid that it would be too much silver, plus I would have to change out the black spacers inbetween the red ones for silver ones. Thanks for the compliment, I am taking it out sunday for the maiden voyage, I will post a ride report sometime sunday night.

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    I think you should go for it, definitely not too much silver on the spacers, nah you wouldn't have to switch them out, the black compliments the frame nicely as the silver does also - nice to have comliments both for and aft.

    Quote Originally Posted by cruso414
    but I was afraid that it would be too much silver, plus I would have to change out the black spacers inbetween the red ones for silver ones. Thanks for the compliment, I am taking it out sunday for the maiden voyage, I will post a ride report sometime sunday night.
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    Guess I didn't see your reply to my post earlier, just saw it when the post was active again.

    How does a light bike feel crappy? Easy when they get super light they tend to be very harsh and bouncy from all the hard, light weight stuff that hasn't got the ability to absorb/dampen. This to me is not fun having to try and control a bike just so I can say it's "X" weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by OilcanRacer
    ....huh? you can think whatever you want, but my current 22 lbs hardtail has been raced hard and hasn't seen any break down issues. parts will take more abuse on a hardtail than on a full sus bike. I didn't even have to spend that much or go to excess to meet my wieght/strength goals.

    a jet9 just under 24 lbs is very reachable. under 22 lbs would be a trade off or very very expensive to do. i would be happy to get as close as possible to 24 lbs and use the rest of the money on trips or other bikes.


    btw..... how does a lighter bike make it feel "crappy ride/feel"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    So are you gona strip everything off the Sugar BB? I know that if you go weight weenie on a built it's normally fairly far out there, but, you do not go over the top with stupid expensive for 25g type stuff. Not sure what the Sugar frames weigh, but the XL JET9 is somewhere around 6.75lbs as far as I remember from reading, so with "your" sort of build I think you could easily hit 25.5lbs, getting below 25lbs I think would cost quite a bit and would be a bit on the questionable side reliability wise. Looking forward to see what you come up with.

    As to the fork, if it were me I would definitely have to go with the newer Rebas, greater offset and stiffer chasis. I just made the move to a Manitou 120mm TA and it's huge how much better it feels, the precision in the steering is just fantastic - I like tech so this realy is what I look for. I'd consider going for the QR version and then use a DT RWS on it to help stiffen it up a bit more.
    Yup, I'll take the goodies off of the Sugar 293. I'll have to weigh the Sugar frame once I have it all stripped. I don't think I've ever weighed the Sugar without any components on it, but I'm pretty sure it's in the 6.75 - 7.x weight range for my XL. So it sounds like my JET will be about the same end weight in the 25.41 - 26.2 lb. range depending on tire choice as is.

    But I may have something up my sleeve to best that. First, I need to get the frame and take a look at it as well as play around with some options. One more full week of teaching and then it is semester break so I will have some "tinkering and thinkering" time.

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    Good job!

    This is my first 29er and my maiden ride was the first time riding one on a trail. All I can say is why did I wait so long to get a 29er When riding the Jet9 I feel like I am cheating or something because the effort to climb and clear obstacles is ridiculously easy compared to my 26 Cannondale I truly can’t explain it but all I have to say is if you haven’t ridden a 29er go try it and see what I am saying

    This is a Niner build. My frame is a medium. Here are the specs.

    -Fox F100 RL 100mm
    -FSA Orbit 1 1/8" Sealed Cartridge Bearing headset
    -Race Face Evolve Seatpost, 30.9 x 350mm
    -Stans ZTR Arch Rims, 29er rim, disc only, 32H
    -WTB LaserDisk -WTB LaserDisk Superlight, 32H, Sealed Cartridge Bearings, alloy axle, 9-speed, 135mm
    -Double Butted 14/15G, w/ RED ALLOY NIPPLES 14x12mm
    -Sram PC-971 Chain, 114 Link w/ Gold Power link
    -Truvativ Stylo 3.3 TM cranks, 22, 32, 44 front crankset for 68mm bb shell.
    170mm for small, 175 for m/l/xl
    -Sram PG-970 11-34 cassette
    -Shimano XT FD-M771 front derailleur, 34.9 clamp dual pull
    -Sram X-O medium cage rear derailleur
    -Sram X-9 shifters
    -Jagwire shifter cables
    -WTB PureV Race SL saddle
    -Race Face Evolve stem, 31.8 Clamp diameter 70mm S, 90mm M, 100mm L, 110mm XL
    -Niner Flat Top9 bar, 710mm width, 31.8 clamp, 9 degree bend
    -WTB Weirwolf grips
    -WTB Prowler tires
    -Juicy 7 front brake
    -Juicy 7 rear brake
    -FSA bash guard

    I weigh 150 lbs and have a 29.5 inch inseam. I currently have the Rear (RP23) set at 90 psi and the Front (F29 RL) set at 70 psi.
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    Welcome to the Club, the Koolaid tastes fantastic doesn't it I think most people who first try a 29er feel that they are somehow cheating, it just rolls over, up, down stuff so easily. Just be careful though, they are very dangerous and can cause some serious "oh ****" and such moments from carrying more speed than you're accustomed to, through areas you wouldn't even normally consider.

    As to your shock PSI, I think that maybe you might have it a bit to high for your weight. I say think as I don't own a JET9, but a RIP9 and for my 180-190lbs geared I run around 100-110 in my RP23, although this is for a nice plush feel and could go 120 prob if racing. Fork I cannot comment on as I've never used a Fox.


    Quote Originally Posted by ExigeS
    This is my first 29er and my maiden ride was the first time riding one on a trail. All I can say is why did I wait so long to get a 29er When riding the Jet9 I feel like I am cheating or something because the effort to climb and clear obstacles is ridiculously easy compared to my 26 Cannondale I truly can’t explain it but all I have to say is if you haven’t ridden a 29er go try it and see what I am saying .................................................. .................................................. ...............................

    I weigh 150 lbs and have a 29.5 inch inseam. I currently have the Rear (RP23) set at 90 psi and the Front (F29 RL) set at 70 psi.
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    After months of agonizing over parts for my Niner Jet9, it finally showed up yesterday in all its glory.












    And here is the part list:


    Final weight according to digital scale: 23.69lbs

    Initial riding thought: Priceless

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    Looks great! Congrats.

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    Hey Lynx,



    flafonta built his jet9 almost exactly as i will be doing mine, cept for different seatpost, rims and cranks.

    so mine might even be a hair under his.


    its not about having a certain weight. its about have a light weight bike that is mo' fun than a heavy bike.
    since i race and am not a youngster anymore, i appreciate most atvantages that i can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OilcanRacer
    its not about having a certain weight. its about have a light weight bike that is mo' fun than a heavy bike.
    I am not sure the bike will make me faster, and that was not the point.

    But it does "feel" a lot lighter than my 27lbs Mojo. It is more fun to ride a light bike. Much easier to get air and control the bike in the air (with my limited skills).

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    Jet9 vs. Mojo

    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    I am not sure the bike will make me faster, and that was not the point.

    But it does "feel" a lot lighter than my 27lbs Mojo. It is more fun to ride a light bike. Much easier to get air and control the bike in the air (with my limited skills).
    Hey Flafonta... Very nice build. Mine will also be very similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jceahodges
    Hey Flafonta... Very nice build. Mine will also be very similar. You mentioned having a Mojo... so do I... Can you give some ride comparison thoughts between the two bikes? I'm dying to know that I'm making a good decision going with the Jet. I'll bet there are other Mojo owners who are pondering the same decision too, so your feedback would be greatly appreciated by many! Thanks in advance.
    jceahodges, please post your question over to the 29er forum under my thread there. I am planing to provide more input into the overall Jet9 review and comparison with the Mojo. But I don't want to pollute this Jet9 picture thread.

    Thanks everyone for the good words on my bike. It is lovely so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Not sure what the Sugar frames weigh, but the XL JET9 is somewhere around 6.75lbs as far as I remember from reading, so with "your" sort of build I think you could easily hit 25.5lbs, getting below 25lbs I think would cost quite a bit and would be a bit on the questionable side reliability wise. Looking forward to see what you come up with.
    It's official, my JET 9 XL out of the box frame weighs 2920g (6.43lbs) with water bottle bolts. Excel spreadsheet is up and running and I'm like a mad scientist running all the numbers to see what I can come up with for the target. My new seatpost has arrived as well, so it won't be long now to get the build going...

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    Here is mine. Originally I said it was going to weigh about 25lbs. Unfortunately the shop scale was off a full pound so it's right at 26lbs. Still quite happy with that:






    Specs:

    Med Niner Jet Frame
    Fox F29 100mm Fork
    Wheels – Stans 355 Rims Yellow Rim Tape Valve Stems/XTR Hubs/DT Comp Spokes Red Nipples
    Maxxis Crossmark Non-Tubeless 2.1 Converted
    King Headset Silver
    Salsa Post Binder Silver
    Formula K24 Brakes 180mm Rotors
    Full XTR Drivetrain
    Easton EC70 Low Rise Bar 31.8 26"
    Thomson Masterpiece Post 30.9x350 W/Setback
    Thomson Elite X4 Stem 31.8x90mm 10 Degree Flipped
    Ergon GX1 Grips
    WTB Rocket V SLT Silver/Black Saddle
    Rider 5'10" 34" Inseam 155lbs 110psi Rear Shock 75psi Fork.

    Just a touch over 26lbs.
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    Well that's good to hear BB, and it jogs my memory the RIP9 XL was about 6.75lbs and the JET XL 6.4lbs - old age is a biatch. All I remember was the JET9 frame was at most a 1/2lb lighter than the RIP9 once produced compared to almost a 1lb lighter in proto form. I bet you'll build that up to somewhere smart around 25.5-26lbs.

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    It's official, my JET 9 XL out of the box frame weighs 2920g (6.43lbs) with water bottle bolts. Excel spreadsheet is up and running and I'm like a mad scientist running all the numbers to see what I can come up with for the target. My new seatpost has arrived as well, so it won't be long now to get the build going...

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    LaFonta very nice build, really nice Like how the red ano on the Ultimates matches the red ano on the frame Going 1x9 really must have saved you some weight dropping the FD, cables and shifters - Did you calculate how much? I'd guess prob saved you around 3/4lb. If you're really weight concious cutting the steerer and droping those spacers from untop the stem would prob loose you another 15g Bet Oilcan would do it in a heart beat, since him being so old and needing all the help he can get an all
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    LaFonta very nice build, really nice Like how the red ano on the Ultimates matches the red ano on the frame Going 1x9 really must have saved you some weight dropping the FD, cables and shifters - Did you calculate how much? I'd guess prob saved you around 3/4lb. If you're really weight concious cutting the steerer and droping those spacers from untop the stem would prob loose you another 15g Bet Oilcan would do it in a heart beat, since him being so old and needing all the help he can get an all
    I never calculated how much I was saving with going 1x9. I was assuming arround 3/4lbs as you said.

    I am planing to cut the extra steering tube, but waiting for my setup to be fully dialed in. It is hard to make it higher after it is cut

    And I would not be doing it for weight saving, but for look (and security?).

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    Oh yeah, no need to question the security factor there, keeping the jewels safe is top priority I try to keep as little non needed steerer/spacers ontop the stem. Figured you were still dialing the stem height and the reason for the extra steerer

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    I never calculated how much I was saving with going 1x9. I was assuming arround 3/4lbs as you said.

    I am planing to cut the extra steering tube, but waiting for my setup to be fully dialed in. It is hard to make it higher after it is cut

    And I would not be doing it for weight saving, but for look (and security?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Well that's good to hear BB, and it jogs my memory the RIP9 XL was about 6.75lbs and the JET XL 6.4lbs - old age is a biatch. All I remember was the JET9 frame was at most a 1/2lb lighter than the RIP9 once produced compared to almost a 1lb lighter in proto form. I bet you'll build that up to somewhere smart around 25.5-26lbs
    I'm in the 24.x lb. range on the Excel spreadsheet with the "smart" build (that would be the non-divorce settlement build).

    I'm at 23.2 lbs on the Excel spreadsheet with the "guaranteed to cause a divorce" build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    I'm in the 24.x lb. range on the Excel spreadsheet with the "smart" build (that would be the non-divorce settlement build).

    I'm at 23.2 lbs on the Excel spreadsheet with the "guaranteed to cause a divorce" build.

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    BruceBrown, can you share your build with us? That way we can criticize it before you pull the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    BruceBrown, can you share your build with us? That way we can criticize it before you pull the trigger.
    Many parts are on my bike and in my parts bin, but here's the divorce build before I pull any triggers. Keep in mind the ZTR race wheels won't be available until Feb/March and I didn't include a water bottle cage or the sealant weight.

    But - it looks light for an XL....

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    Edit: Anyone alerting my wife of the the above build will bear sole financial responsibility for all divorce attorney costs associated with said bike. ;-]
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    here is my xl jet9

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Yup, I'll take the goodies off of the Sugar 293. I'll have to weigh the Sugar frame once I have it all stripped. I don't think I've ever weighed the Sugar without any components on it, but I'm pretty sure it's in the 6.75 - 7.x weight range for my XL. So it sounds like my JET will be about the same end weight in the 25.41 - 26.2 lb. range depending on tire choice as is.
    The challenge increases. I stripped the Sugar 293 frame and weighed it. 2675g without the rear disc brake adapter needed for the older Trek/Fisher frames, and 2720 with the adapter and bolts. Wow, that's 200g less than my new JET 9. And my fork just went up to 1810g from 1750g because I will be running a 2008 Reba with the Pushlock and a longer steerer tube as opposed to my 2006 Reba Race non pushlock and 1" shorter steerer tube for the 100mm setting. So, I've got to make up those increased 260 grams in this build to even things out.

    But I was surprised the XL Sugar frame was only 2675g. Not bad. I guess the Hope Mono Mini Pros would make up that 265g over my Avid mechanicals and levers....

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    All right Bruce, this is the first and last time I'll tell you this........I told you so Seriously it's time you open up your own thread and stop filling up the setup thread with pics of the build EVEN out in the snow.
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    JET 9 New Build

    Here' my new build @ 25.2 lbs

    Medium Jet 9
    Fox 29 100 RLC
    XTR 975 Dual Control Shifters
    XTR 970 Crank
    XTR 975 Calipers
    XTR 970 Front/Rear Derailur
    XTR 11-34 Cassette
    Thomson Masterpiece Seatpost
    Thomson Elite Stem 100
    Easton Monkeylight SL CNT Handelbar
    Chris King Headset
    Industry Nine wheelset with Arch Rims
    Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.4 Front 2.2 Rear
    ODI lockon grips
    SLR Saddle
    Salsa Skewers and clamp

    Rode it twice already and I can say it's the best bike I've ever ridden. I have 4 in my stable. Superfly, Epiphany, S-works Epic, Raleigh SS XXIX. Med Epiphany Frame up for sale!

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    jetdog that is also a good solid build. glad to see so many riders happy with their bike. even ones with a quility stable as yours.

    i just hope i don't stop riding my hardtail when i build mine.....
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    Basement JET

    Frame - Medium Black JET 9
    Shock - Fox RP23
    Headset - FSA Orbit X
    Fork - Manitou Minute 29, 90mm
    Seat Collar - Salsa Flip Off
    Seat Post - Thomson, 30.9mm
    Saddle - San Marco Aspide
    Handlebar - FSA Kforce, Flat
    Stem - FSA OS115, 110mm
    Shifters - Sram X9
    Grips - Sunline
    Brakes - Avid Juicy 7
    Rotors - Avid 160mm
    Der. Front - Sram X9, 34.9mm
    Der. Rear - Sram X9
    Crankset - FSA Kforce Light 68/175mm, 22/36T
    Bottom Bracket - FSA MegaExo Ceramic
    Chain - FSA Team Issue 9s
    Cassette - Shimano XT 11-32
    Pedals - Xpedo Clipless
    Wheels - American Classic
    Tires - Bontrager Jones 2.2
    Quick Release - Salsa Ti Flip Off

    Just finished transferring everything from my Alma 29 frame, this is an in-progress pic. Removed some material from the back of the X9 front derailleur so it would miss the swingarm, I also had to install a longer brake line on the rear brake and order a Thomson 400mm post (Long Legs... I got em!) but everything else went smoothly. I am also going with a 22/36T chainring config, I ordered a sexy Gamut bashguard that should look the business on there. The pic shows a 22/32T with an FSA guard.

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    my jets build;
    large frame, black ano
    reba race
    full xtr group
    ztr 355 rims
    dt revolution spokes
    red dt aluminium nipples
    xtr hubs
    schwalbe racing ralph 2,25 tires
    tune bobo headset
    ritchey wcs carbon stem 100mm
    syntace duraflite bar
    tune barends
    extralite grips
    extralite ul seatpost
    slr carbonio seat
    tune strangler seatpost clamp
    tune uni wasserträger
    weighs in at 26.0 lbs

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    Is that weight on an accurate scale? Just curious 'cause from reading the build it "sounds like" (I don't dabble in that type of stuff) you used a lot of weight weenie/expensive stuff and still only managed 26lbs Bike does look damn nice though

    Quote Originally Posted by phil_rad
    my jets build;
    large frame, black ano
    reba race
    full xtr group
    ztr 355 rims
    dt revolution spokes
    red dt aluminium nipples
    xtr hubs
    schwalbe racing ralph 2,25 tires
    tune bobo headset
    ritchey wcs carbon stem 100mm
    syntace duraflite bar
    tune barends
    extralite grips
    extralite ul seatpost
    slr carbonio seat
    tune strangler seatpost clamp
    tune uni wasserträger
    weighs in at 26.0 lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Is that weight on an accurate scale? Just curious 'cause from reading the build it "sounds like" (I don't dabble in that type of stuff) you used a lot of weight weenie/expensive stuff and still only managed 26lbs
    Same question here. I am starting to doubt my own 23.6lbs Jet, which did not have some of the WW stuff

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    Thats a good question. It was weighed at my local dealer and he has an official looking scale, i'll ask him if its accurate. The frame isn't very light, it weighs 6.39 lbs, according to a kern scale.

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    Exactly my sentiments...........

    ........................on all these super light weight builds that are being reported

    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    Same question here. I am starting to doubt my own 23.6lbs Jet, which did not have some of the WW stuff
    Quote Originally Posted by phil_rad
    Thats a good question. It was weighed at my local dealer and he has an official looking scale, i'll ask him if its accurate. The frame isn't very light, it weighs 6.39 lbs, according to a kern scale.
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    now you guys got me thinking, maybe the scale that i'm using is off, i hope so! but then,whats in a number? the rides great no matter what it weighs.

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    I built mine with a more durable build

    but the parts are by no means heavy. I am running a 2X9 now with FSA cranks and a bashgaurd. I still haven't weighed it but I am still guessing around 26-26.5. I am riding a large but I just don't see where you could possibly get another 3 lbs off this bike.

    I never gave a ride report because I was waiting to give an accurate report since my fitness was in the tank from being off the bike for 2 months. I have since seen my fitness recover and I can without a doubt say that this is the only bike that I like better than my maverick. I thought the maverick did everything well but the jet does it all even better. The feeling that I got with the maverick that the rear wheel seemed to be driven deeper into the ground when climbing is even more noticeable on the jet. I have mentioned in other threads that the propedal is useless, I mean the suspension design pedals so well that the bike feels like sh!t when it is turned on. As far as decending, it feels as though it has a lot more travel than 3.1 inches and tracks *almost* as quick as my scalpel did. I ride mostly in pisgah which is pretty technical and rocky so my only reservation about the bike is durability. I wonder if maybe the RIP9 would be better suited for the type of terrain here as far as long term durabilty. Either way, I will be on a RIP9 or Jet9 for the forseeable future. Absolutely wonderful bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by phil_rad
    my jets build;
    large frame, black ano
    reba race
    full xtr group
    ztr 355 rims
    dt revolution spokes
    red dt aluminium nipples
    xtr hubs
    schwalbe racing ralph 2,25 tires
    tune bobo headset
    ritchey wcs carbon stem 100mm
    syntace duraflite bar
    tune barends
    extralite grips
    extralite ul seatpost
    slr carbonio seat
    tune strangler seatpost clamp
    tune uni wasserträger
    weighs in at 26.0 lbs

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    If that thing truly weighs 26lb then BB needs to get his divorce papers written up to get down to the weight he is hoping for, and I have just wasted hours agonising over parts for no good reason.

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    Something's wrong there Either his is waying more than it really does or the other builds are being weighed to light. I don't think BB is that bad a weight weenie and will settle for the few additional changes he mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    If that thing truly weighs 26lb then BB needs to get his divorce papers written up to get down to the weight he is hoping for, and I have just wasted hours agonising over parts for no good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    If that thing truly weighs 26lb then BB needs to get his divorce papers written up to get down to the weight he is hoping for, and I have just wasted hours agonising over parts for no good reason.
    No divorce papers yet. The Excel spreadsheet does not lie - but you have to know the exact weights of each part. Since my bike is apart at the moment and the components are trickling in, I have the luxury of weighing each individual part before doing the build. One's total on the spreadsheet may be off a little bit in either direction, but certainly not by a 1/2 pound or more. I'm including sealant, but not the weight of grease. So grease and teflon tape around the BB will alter the weight slightly as will final housing length cut.

    I'll make my non-divorce, sub 25 weight or else!!! I've got a few options to get me there (lighter pedals, lighter saddle, lighter brakes, lighter wheels, lighter bars, lighter BB, lighter rings, etc...). If the finances are in shape to do the divorce build - it would be a fun exercise, that's for sure.

    I would venture to guess Phil_rad's size L JET may not be the 26lbs as the shop scale said. It might be more in the 25.x category. Then again, those Racing Ralphs, the XTR cassette, the Ritchey stem, the bar ends, hubs, etc... all are areas where there are lighter part options or choices available.

    Excel spreadsheet - weigh each part and plug and play until the numbers approach the target. I'm currently at 24.45 on the non-divorce build and 22.67 with the divorce build. And the 24.45 includes my Avid mechanical disc brakes, rotors, pads, adapters, housing, cables and levers. And then one makes preference decisions that may - pardon the pun - "outweigh" the lighter part choice.

    The divorce build can't happen until the Formula R1's and the NoTubes ZTR race wheels hit the market in 2009. And we really don't have final weights of either of those products - so the target area of 270 grams (plus IS adapters and bolts) for the R1's and the 1400g final weight "guesstimate" by the NoTubes.com staff on their message boards for the 29"er ZTR race wheelset remains to be seen.

    But that's all moot. A 24 - 25 lb. XL full suspension 29er is a win-win.

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    I have parts flying to me from all over the world at the moment (including the frame and the gram scale to weigh it all on) .
    Some of the stuff I have looked at I am sitting wondering whether it is worth the additional $. Xo vs X9 is a good example of this when the cost is so much more for the X0 just to save 10g or so.
    I also have to wonder whether a $15 ti bolt kit will save the same amount of weight off the X9 derailleur as spending $200+ for the X0?!?!

    But maybe I am posting these thoughts in the wrong forum!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    I have parts flying to me from all over the world at the moment (including the frame and the gram scale to weigh it all on) .
    Some of the stuff I have looked at I am sitting wondering whether it is worth the additional $. Xo vs X9 is a good example of this when the cost is so much more for the X0 just to save 10g or so.
    I also have to wonder whether a $15 ti bolt kit will save the same amount of weight off the X9 derailleur as spending $200+ for the X0?!?!

    But maybe I am posting these thoughts in the wrong forum!?!?!?
    I don't buy XO for that very reason, but I DO buy Ti bolts. Not to save the weight really, but to have non-corrosive bling on the whole bike for less than the cost of an XO derailleur. Ti bolts last and look great forever, I have some that have probably been on three or four different bikes and I just keep transferring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    I also have to wonder whether a $15 ti bolt kit will save the same amount of weight off the X9 derailleur as spending $200+ for the X0?!?!
    Search around on the Internet and you can get the X0 RD for under $150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    Search around on the Internet and you can get the X0 RD for under $150.
    Sorry
    $200 Australian.

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    Ready JET9

    Okay, it's basically ready. Still waiting on a 36t chainring but I got everything else installed. Not sure about weight but I am guessing 27-28lbs based on other builds. EDIT: Pleasant surprise, it's just over 26lbs (about 26.3?) finished. I was looking again at other JETs and I guess I don't know why I initially thought mine was going to be heavier.

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    JMH, that's a really nice looking JET9 Pity the black Minute's aren't available retail - although easily solveable with a fork strip and some good matte black spray paint. What's the primary use for this bike, trails or do you race? Just asking as they're much faster rolling tyres you could put on it if you're racing - personal favourite is the maxxis CrossMark, for weight to grip to rolling resistance.
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    Nice JMH.
    I like it a lot.
    Makes me want to take the day off work and "finish" mine (until my new wheels are built anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    JMH, that's a really nice looking JET9 Pity the black Minute's aren't available retail - although easily solveable with a fork strip and some good matte black spray paint. What's the primary use for this bike, trails or do you race? Just asking as they're much faster rolling tyres you could put on it if you're racing - personal favourite is the maxxis CrossMark, for weight to grip to rolling resistance.
    Thanks for all the props!

    This is the only 29er in my stable of bigger bikes. I will use it for epics down in the Utah desert this spring and then fast XC rides in Park City during the summer. Honestly I only selected these tires because my old Ignitors were clapped out, it was time for new rubber and this is what I had in the garage.

    It may get more varied use depending on how well it works for me as a trail bike. I currently prefer with the way a 26" wheeled 6" bike rides on my favorite terrain, but we'll see!

    Some of these pics show the rides I love on my 29er (had an Orbea Alma 29) and some of the other terrain that I prefer on kiddie wheels.

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    ... and if we just ... Definitely need some tyres

    First up let me say - Really looking forward to reading your impressions/thoughts on the JET9 riding in that terrain.

    Definitely if you're planning on doing some racing, I'd seriously consider some new rubber and if you'll be using the JET9 for that other riding or at least trying it def some new rubber. My recomendations would be a Rampage REAR/Nevegal FRONT for the aggressive stuff and Crossmark REAR/Ignitor FRONT for the racing. I've run both these combos for exactly what I suggest them for and was super happy with each. Used the Rampage R/Nev F combo this summer in CO doing the Monarch Trail 35 mile route including Rainbow Trail. I even ran the Rampage in the fast/forward direction and no traction issues. For most of the visit I ran the Crossmark R/Rampage F. Raced (rode is more accurate, as I was just trying to survive) the Crossmark R/Ignitor F combo at both Leadville and Laramie. All this on my 31lb RIP9.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    Thanks for all the props!

    This is the only 29er in my stable of bigger bikes. I will use it for epics down in the Utah desert this spring and then fast XC rides in Park City during the summer. Honestly I only selected these tires because my old Ignitors were clapped out, it was time for new rubber and this is what I had in the garage.

    It may get more varied use depending on how well it works for me as a trail bike. I currently prefer with the way a 26" wheeled 6" bike rides on my favorite terrain, but we'll see!

    Some of these pics show the rides I love on my 29er (had an Orbea Alma 29) and some of the other terrain that I prefer on kiddie wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    First up let me say - Really looking forward to reading your impressions/thoughts on the JET9 riding in that terrain.

    Definitely if you're planning on doing some racing, I'd seriously consider some new rubber and if you'll be using the JET9 for that other riding or at least trying it def some new rubber. My recomendations would be a Rampage REAR/Nevegal FRONT for the aggressive stuff and Crossmark REAR/Ignitor FRONT for the racing.
    I think that once spring rolls around I will be looking at those combos, I really like the Ignitor, and I have nothing but Nevegals on my 26" bikes, so I am pretty fond of those as well. These Bonestranglers will work for photos.

    What did you think of Rainbow Rim? I think I was expecting something a bit more rugged, I had the wrong bike for sure, wished the whole time I had a 29er hardtail.

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    Another one on the trails in the european alps (Hometown: Munich, Germany):



    Frame Size L
    Shifter: X0
    Rear Derailleur: X0
    Front derailleur: not yet mounted
    Crankset: Stylo
    Stem: Thomson Elite
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    Pedals: Ritchey
    Wheelset: Will be ZTR Flow/Hope 2/WTB Exiwolf - at the moment it's not the final one
    Fork: Fox F29, 80mm
    Bar: Bontrager Select
    Saddle: Flite - the old one
    Headset: Chris King
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7 185/185

    Folks: I love it
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    Hi ellen_muenchen,

    Great looking bike and build, can't wait for mine to arrive.

    I'm wating for my XL JET to arrive and it was a difficult choice as I was sort of in between sizes at 6'3". Can I ask what the BB to the top of the saddle height is, as your looks quite high? I'll have mine set at about 83.5cm.

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    Hi Timmoth,

    mine is set somewhere between 80.5 and 81.5...

    Ellen

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    Thanks Ellen, helps me to come to the conclusion that my maybe my XL will probably be the right size.

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