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    I think you should go for it, definitely not too much silver on the spacers, nah you wouldn't have to switch them out, the black compliments the frame nicely as the silver does also - nice to have comliments both for and aft.

    Quote Originally Posted by cruso414
    but I was afraid that it would be too much silver, plus I would have to change out the black spacers inbetween the red ones for silver ones. Thanks for the compliment, I am taking it out sunday for the maiden voyage, I will post a ride report sometime sunday night.
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    Guess I didn't see your reply to my post earlier, just saw it when the post was active again.

    How does a light bike feel crappy? Easy when they get super light they tend to be very harsh and bouncy from all the hard, light weight stuff that hasn't got the ability to absorb/dampen. This to me is not fun having to try and control a bike just so I can say it's "X" weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by OilcanRacer
    ....huh? you can think whatever you want, but my current 22 lbs hardtail has been raced hard and hasn't seen any break down issues. parts will take more abuse on a hardtail than on a full sus bike. I didn't even have to spend that much or go to excess to meet my wieght/strength goals.

    a jet9 just under 24 lbs is very reachable. under 22 lbs would be a trade off or very very expensive to do. i would be happy to get as close as possible to 24 lbs and use the rest of the money on trips or other bikes.


    btw..... how does a lighter bike make it feel "crappy ride/feel"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    So are you gona strip everything off the Sugar BB? I know that if you go weight weenie on a built it's normally fairly far out there, but, you do not go over the top with stupid expensive for 25g type stuff. Not sure what the Sugar frames weigh, but the XL JET9 is somewhere around 6.75lbs as far as I remember from reading, so with "your" sort of build I think you could easily hit 25.5lbs, getting below 25lbs I think would cost quite a bit and would be a bit on the questionable side reliability wise. Looking forward to see what you come up with.

    As to the fork, if it were me I would definitely have to go with the newer Rebas, greater offset and stiffer chasis. I just made the move to a Manitou 120mm TA and it's huge how much better it feels, the precision in the steering is just fantastic - I like tech so this realy is what I look for. I'd consider going for the QR version and then use a DT RWS on it to help stiffen it up a bit more.
    Yup, I'll take the goodies off of the Sugar 293. I'll have to weigh the Sugar frame once I have it all stripped. I don't think I've ever weighed the Sugar without any components on it, but I'm pretty sure it's in the 6.75 - 7.x weight range for my XL. So it sounds like my JET will be about the same end weight in the 25.41 - 26.2 lb. range depending on tire choice as is.

    But I may have something up my sleeve to best that. First, I need to get the frame and take a look at it as well as play around with some options. One more full week of teaching and then it is semester break so I will have some "tinkering and thinkering" time.

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    Good job!

    This is my first 29er and my maiden ride was the first time riding one on a trail. All I can say is why did I wait so long to get a 29er When riding the Jet9 I feel like I am cheating or something because the effort to climb and clear obstacles is ridiculously easy compared to my 26 Cannondale I truly can’t explain it but all I have to say is if you haven’t ridden a 29er go try it and see what I am saying

    This is a Niner build. My frame is a medium. Here are the specs.

    -Fox F100 RL 100mm
    -FSA Orbit 1 1/8" Sealed Cartridge Bearing headset
    -Race Face Evolve Seatpost, 30.9 x 350mm
    -Stans ZTR Arch Rims, 29er rim, disc only, 32H
    -WTB LaserDisk -WTB LaserDisk Superlight, 32H, Sealed Cartridge Bearings, alloy axle, 9-speed, 135mm
    -Double Butted 14/15G, w/ RED ALLOY NIPPLES 14x12mm
    -Sram PC-971 Chain, 114 Link w/ Gold Power link
    -Truvativ Stylo 3.3 TM cranks, 22, 32, 44 front crankset for 68mm bb shell.
    170mm for small, 175 for m/l/xl
    -Sram PG-970 11-34 cassette
    -Shimano XT FD-M771 front derailleur, 34.9 clamp dual pull
    -Sram X-O medium cage rear derailleur
    -Sram X-9 shifters
    -Jagwire shifter cables
    -WTB PureV Race SL saddle
    -Race Face Evolve stem, 31.8 Clamp diameter 70mm S, 90mm M, 100mm L, 110mm XL
    -Niner Flat Top9 bar, 710mm width, 31.8 clamp, 9 degree bend
    -WTB Weirwolf grips
    -WTB Prowler tires
    -Juicy 7 front brake
    -Juicy 7 rear brake
    -FSA bash guard

    I weigh 150 lbs and have a 29.5 inch inseam. I currently have the Rear (RP23) set at 90 psi and the Front (F29 RL) set at 70 psi.
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    Welcome to the Club, the Koolaid tastes fantastic doesn't it I think most people who first try a 29er feel that they are somehow cheating, it just rolls over, up, down stuff so easily. Just be careful though, they are very dangerous and can cause some serious "oh ****" and such moments from carrying more speed than you're accustomed to, through areas you wouldn't even normally consider.

    As to your shock PSI, I think that maybe you might have it a bit to high for your weight. I say think as I don't own a JET9, but a RIP9 and for my 180-190lbs geared I run around 100-110 in my RP23, although this is for a nice plush feel and could go 120 prob if racing. Fork I cannot comment on as I've never used a Fox.


    Quote Originally Posted by ExigeS
    This is my first 29er and my maiden ride was the first time riding one on a trail. All I can say is why did I wait so long to get a 29er When riding the Jet9 I feel like I am cheating or something because the effort to climb and clear obstacles is ridiculously easy compared to my 26 Cannondale I truly can’t explain it but all I have to say is if you haven’t ridden a 29er go try it and see what I am saying .................................................. .................................................. ...............................

    I weigh 150 lbs and have a 29.5 inch inseam. I currently have the Rear (RP23) set at 90 psi and the Front (F29 RL) set at 70 psi.
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    After months of agonizing over parts for my Niner Jet9, it finally showed up yesterday in all its glory.












    And here is the part list:


    Final weight according to digital scale: 23.69lbs

    Initial riding thought: Priceless

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    Looks great! Congrats.

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    Hey Lynx,



    flafonta built his jet9 almost exactly as i will be doing mine, cept for different seatpost, rims and cranks.

    so mine might even be a hair under his.


    its not about having a certain weight. its about have a light weight bike that is mo' fun than a heavy bike.
    since i race and am not a youngster anymore, i appreciate most atvantages that i can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OilcanRacer
    its not about having a certain weight. its about have a light weight bike that is mo' fun than a heavy bike.
    I am not sure the bike will make me faster, and that was not the point.

    But it does "feel" a lot lighter than my 27lbs Mojo. It is more fun to ride a light bike. Much easier to get air and control the bike in the air (with my limited skills).

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    Jet9 vs. Mojo

    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    I am not sure the bike will make me faster, and that was not the point.

    But it does "feel" a lot lighter than my 27lbs Mojo. It is more fun to ride a light bike. Much easier to get air and control the bike in the air (with my limited skills).
    Hey Flafonta... Very nice build. Mine will also be very similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jceahodges
    Hey Flafonta... Very nice build. Mine will also be very similar. You mentioned having a Mojo... so do I... Can you give some ride comparison thoughts between the two bikes? I'm dying to know that I'm making a good decision going with the Jet. I'll bet there are other Mojo owners who are pondering the same decision too, so your feedback would be greatly appreciated by many! Thanks in advance.
    jceahodges, please post your question over to the 29er forum under my thread there. I am planing to provide more input into the overall Jet9 review and comparison with the Mojo. But I don't want to pollute this Jet9 picture thread.

    Thanks everyone for the good words on my bike. It is lovely so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Not sure what the Sugar frames weigh, but the XL JET9 is somewhere around 6.75lbs as far as I remember from reading, so with "your" sort of build I think you could easily hit 25.5lbs, getting below 25lbs I think would cost quite a bit and would be a bit on the questionable side reliability wise. Looking forward to see what you come up with.
    It's official, my JET 9 XL out of the box frame weighs 2920g (6.43lbs) with water bottle bolts. Excel spreadsheet is up and running and I'm like a mad scientist running all the numbers to see what I can come up with for the target. My new seatpost has arrived as well, so it won't be long now to get the build going...

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7166535@N05/3063019971/" title="XLJET9 by singingsingletracker, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/3063019971_32312b2f4e_o.jpg" width="400" height="296" alt="XLJET9" /></a>

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    Here is mine. Originally I said it was going to weigh about 25lbs. Unfortunately the shop scale was off a full pound so it's right at 26lbs. Still quite happy with that:






    Specs:

    Med Niner Jet Frame
    Fox F29 100mm Fork
    Wheels – Stans 355 Rims Yellow Rim Tape Valve Stems/XTR Hubs/DT Comp Spokes Red Nipples
    Maxxis Crossmark Non-Tubeless 2.1 Converted
    King Headset Silver
    Salsa Post Binder Silver
    Formula K24 Brakes 180mm Rotors
    Full XTR Drivetrain
    Easton EC70 Low Rise Bar 31.8 26"
    Thomson Masterpiece Post 30.9x350 W/Setback
    Thomson Elite X4 Stem 31.8x90mm 10 Degree Flipped
    Ergon GX1 Grips
    WTB Rocket V SLT Silver/Black Saddle
    Rider 5'10" 34" Inseam 155lbs 110psi Rear Shock 75psi Fork.

    Just a touch over 26lbs.
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    Well that's good to hear BB, and it jogs my memory the RIP9 XL was about 6.75lbs and the JET XL 6.4lbs - old age is a biatch. All I remember was the JET9 frame was at most a 1/2lb lighter than the RIP9 once produced compared to almost a 1lb lighter in proto form. I bet you'll build that up to somewhere smart around 25.5-26lbs.

    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    It's official, my JET 9 XL out of the box frame weighs 2920g (6.43lbs) with water bottle bolts. Excel spreadsheet is up and running and I'm like a mad scientist running all the numbers to see what I can come up with for the target. My new seatpost has arrived as well, so it won't be long now to get the build going...

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7166535@N05/3063019971/" title="XLJET9 by singingsingletracker, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3191/3063019971_32312b2f4e_o.jpg" width="400" height="296" alt="XLJET9" /></a>

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    LaFonta very nice build, really nice Like how the red ano on the Ultimates matches the red ano on the frame Going 1x9 really must have saved you some weight dropping the FD, cables and shifters - Did you calculate how much? I'd guess prob saved you around 3/4lb. If you're really weight concious cutting the steerer and droping those spacers from untop the stem would prob loose you another 15g Bet Oilcan would do it in a heart beat, since him being so old and needing all the help he can get an all
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    LaFonta very nice build, really nice Like how the red ano on the Ultimates matches the red ano on the frame Going 1x9 really must have saved you some weight dropping the FD, cables and shifters - Did you calculate how much? I'd guess prob saved you around 3/4lb. If you're really weight concious cutting the steerer and droping those spacers from untop the stem would prob loose you another 15g Bet Oilcan would do it in a heart beat, since him being so old and needing all the help he can get an all
    I never calculated how much I was saving with going 1x9. I was assuming arround 3/4lbs as you said.

    I am planing to cut the extra steering tube, but waiting for my setup to be fully dialed in. It is hard to make it higher after it is cut

    And I would not be doing it for weight saving, but for look (and security?).

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    Oh yeah, no need to question the security factor there, keeping the jewels safe is top priority I try to keep as little non needed steerer/spacers ontop the stem. Figured you were still dialing the stem height and the reason for the extra steerer

    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    I never calculated how much I was saving with going 1x9. I was assuming arround 3/4lbs as you said.

    I am planing to cut the extra steering tube, but waiting for my setup to be fully dialed in. It is hard to make it higher after it is cut

    And I would not be doing it for weight saving, but for look (and security?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Well that's good to hear BB, and it jogs my memory the RIP9 XL was about 6.75lbs and the JET XL 6.4lbs - old age is a biatch. All I remember was the JET9 frame was at most a 1/2lb lighter than the RIP9 once produced compared to almost a 1lb lighter in proto form. I bet you'll build that up to somewhere smart around 25.5-26lbs
    I'm in the 24.x lb. range on the Excel spreadsheet with the "smart" build (that would be the non-divorce settlement build).

    I'm at 23.2 lbs on the Excel spreadsheet with the "guaranteed to cause a divorce" build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    I'm in the 24.x lb. range on the Excel spreadsheet with the "smart" build (that would be the non-divorce settlement build).

    I'm at 23.2 lbs on the Excel spreadsheet with the "guaranteed to cause a divorce" build.

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    BruceBrown, can you share your build with us? That way we can criticize it before you pull the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    BruceBrown, can you share your build with us? That way we can criticize it before you pull the trigger.
    Many parts are on my bike and in my parts bin, but here's the divorce build before I pull any triggers. Keep in mind the ZTR race wheels won't be available until Feb/March and I didn't include a water bottle cage or the sealant weight.

    But - it looks light for an XL....

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7166535@N05/3096154730/" title="JET 9 by singingsingletracker, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3086/3096154730_c1f4cf9337_o.jpg" width="537" height="504" alt="JET 9" /></a>

    Edit: Anyone alerting my wife of the the above build will bear sole financial responsibility for all divorce attorney costs associated with said bike. ;-]
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    here is my xl jet9

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown
    Yup, I'll take the goodies off of the Sugar 293. I'll have to weigh the Sugar frame once I have it all stripped. I don't think I've ever weighed the Sugar without any components on it, but I'm pretty sure it's in the 6.75 - 7.x weight range for my XL. So it sounds like my JET will be about the same end weight in the 25.41 - 26.2 lb. range depending on tire choice as is.
    The challenge increases. I stripped the Sugar 293 frame and weighed it. 2675g without the rear disc brake adapter needed for the older Trek/Fisher frames, and 2720 with the adapter and bolts. Wow, that's 200g less than my new JET 9. And my fork just went up to 1810g from 1750g because I will be running a 2008 Reba with the Pushlock and a longer steerer tube as opposed to my 2006 Reba Race non pushlock and 1" shorter steerer tube for the 100mm setting. So, I've got to make up those increased 260 grams in this build to even things out.

    But I was surprised the XL Sugar frame was only 2675g. Not bad. I guess the Hope Mono Mini Pros would make up that 265g over my Avid mechanicals and levers....

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    All right Bruce, this is the first and last time I'll tell you this........I told you so Seriously it's time you open up your own thread and stop filling up the setup thread with pics of the build EVEN out in the snow.
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    JET 9 New Build

    Here' my new build @ 25.2 lbs

    Medium Jet 9
    Fox 29 100 RLC
    XTR 975 Dual Control Shifters
    XTR 970 Crank
    XTR 975 Calipers
    XTR 970 Front/Rear Derailur
    XTR 11-34 Cassette
    Thomson Masterpiece Seatpost
    Thomson Elite Stem 100
    Easton Monkeylight SL CNT Handelbar
    Chris King Headset
    Industry Nine wheelset with Arch Rims
    Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.4 Front 2.2 Rear
    ODI lockon grips
    SLR Saddle
    Salsa Skewers and clamp

    Rode it twice already and I can say it's the best bike I've ever ridden. I have 4 in my stable. Superfly, Epiphany, S-works Epic, Raleigh SS XXIX. Med Epiphany Frame up for sale!

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    jetdog that is also a good solid build. glad to see so many riders happy with their bike. even ones with a quility stable as yours.

    i just hope i don't stop riding my hardtail when i build mine.....
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    Basement JET

    Frame - Medium Black JET 9
    Shock - Fox RP23
    Headset - FSA Orbit X
    Fork - Manitou Minute 29, 90mm
    Seat Collar - Salsa Flip Off
    Seat Post - Thomson, 30.9mm
    Saddle - San Marco Aspide
    Handlebar - FSA Kforce, Flat
    Stem - FSA OS115, 110mm
    Shifters - Sram X9
    Grips - Sunline
    Brakes - Avid Juicy 7
    Rotors - Avid 160mm
    Der. Front - Sram X9, 34.9mm
    Der. Rear - Sram X9
    Crankset - FSA Kforce Light 68/175mm, 22/36T
    Bottom Bracket - FSA MegaExo Ceramic
    Chain - FSA Team Issue 9s
    Cassette - Shimano XT 11-32
    Pedals - Xpedo Clipless
    Wheels - American Classic
    Tires - Bontrager Jones 2.2
    Quick Release - Salsa Ti Flip Off

    Just finished transferring everything from my Alma 29 frame, this is an in-progress pic. Removed some material from the back of the X9 front derailleur so it would miss the swingarm, I also had to install a longer brake line on the rear brake and order a Thomson 400mm post (Long Legs... I got em!) but everything else went smoothly. I am also going with a 22/36T chainring config, I ordered a sexy Gamut bashguard that should look the business on there. The pic shows a 22/32T with an FSA guard.

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    my jets build;
    large frame, black ano
    reba race
    full xtr group
    ztr 355 rims
    dt revolution spokes
    red dt aluminium nipples
    xtr hubs
    schwalbe racing ralph 2,25 tires
    tune bobo headset
    ritchey wcs carbon stem 100mm
    syntace duraflite bar
    tune barends
    extralite grips
    extralite ul seatpost
    slr carbonio seat
    tune strangler seatpost clamp
    tune uni wasserträger
    weighs in at 26.0 lbs

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    Is that weight on an accurate scale? Just curious 'cause from reading the build it "sounds like" (I don't dabble in that type of stuff) you used a lot of weight weenie/expensive stuff and still only managed 26lbs Bike does look damn nice though

    Quote Originally Posted by phil_rad
    my jets build;
    large frame, black ano
    reba race
    full xtr group
    ztr 355 rims
    dt revolution spokes
    red dt aluminium nipples
    xtr hubs
    schwalbe racing ralph 2,25 tires
    tune bobo headset
    ritchey wcs carbon stem 100mm
    syntace duraflite bar
    tune barends
    extralite grips
    extralite ul seatpost
    slr carbonio seat
    tune strangler seatpost clamp
    tune uni wasserträger
    weighs in at 26.0 lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Is that weight on an accurate scale? Just curious 'cause from reading the build it "sounds like" (I don't dabble in that type of stuff) you used a lot of weight weenie/expensive stuff and still only managed 26lbs
    Same question here. I am starting to doubt my own 23.6lbs Jet, which did not have some of the WW stuff

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    Thats a good question. It was weighed at my local dealer and he has an official looking scale, i'll ask him if its accurate. The frame isn't very light, it weighs 6.39 lbs, according to a kern scale.

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    Exactly my sentiments...........

    ........................on all these super light weight builds that are being reported

    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    Same question here. I am starting to doubt my own 23.6lbs Jet, which did not have some of the WW stuff
    Quote Originally Posted by phil_rad
    Thats a good question. It was weighed at my local dealer and he has an official looking scale, i'll ask him if its accurate. The frame isn't very light, it weighs 6.39 lbs, according to a kern scale.
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    now you guys got me thinking, maybe the scale that i'm using is off, i hope so! but then,whats in a number? the rides great no matter what it weighs.

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    I built mine with a more durable build

    but the parts are by no means heavy. I am running a 2X9 now with FSA cranks and a bashgaurd. I still haven't weighed it but I am still guessing around 26-26.5. I am riding a large but I just don't see where you could possibly get another 3 lbs off this bike.

    I never gave a ride report because I was waiting to give an accurate report since my fitness was in the tank from being off the bike for 2 months. I have since seen my fitness recover and I can without a doubt say that this is the only bike that I like better than my maverick. I thought the maverick did everything well but the jet does it all even better. The feeling that I got with the maverick that the rear wheel seemed to be driven deeper into the ground when climbing is even more noticeable on the jet. I have mentioned in other threads that the propedal is useless, I mean the suspension design pedals so well that the bike feels like sh!t when it is turned on. As far as decending, it feels as though it has a lot more travel than 3.1 inches and tracks *almost* as quick as my scalpel did. I ride mostly in pisgah which is pretty technical and rocky so my only reservation about the bike is durability. I wonder if maybe the RIP9 would be better suited for the type of terrain here as far as long term durabilty. Either way, I will be on a RIP9 or Jet9 for the forseeable future. Absolutely wonderful bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by phil_rad
    my jets build;
    large frame, black ano
    reba race
    full xtr group
    ztr 355 rims
    dt revolution spokes
    red dt aluminium nipples
    xtr hubs
    schwalbe racing ralph 2,25 tires
    tune bobo headset
    ritchey wcs carbon stem 100mm
    syntace duraflite bar
    tune barends
    extralite grips
    extralite ul seatpost
    slr carbonio seat
    tune strangler seatpost clamp
    tune uni wasserträger
    weighs in at 26.0 lbs

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    If that thing truly weighs 26lb then BB needs to get his divorce papers written up to get down to the weight he is hoping for, and I have just wasted hours agonising over parts for no good reason.

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    Something's wrong there Either his is waying more than it really does or the other builds are being weighed to light. I don't think BB is that bad a weight weenie and will settle for the few additional changes he mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    If that thing truly weighs 26lb then BB needs to get his divorce papers written up to get down to the weight he is hoping for, and I have just wasted hours agonising over parts for no good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    If that thing truly weighs 26lb then BB needs to get his divorce papers written up to get down to the weight he is hoping for, and I have just wasted hours agonising over parts for no good reason.
    No divorce papers yet. The Excel spreadsheet does not lie - but you have to know the exact weights of each part. Since my bike is apart at the moment and the components are trickling in, I have the luxury of weighing each individual part before doing the build. One's total on the spreadsheet may be off a little bit in either direction, but certainly not by a 1/2 pound or more. I'm including sealant, but not the weight of grease. So grease and teflon tape around the BB will alter the weight slightly as will final housing length cut.

    I'll make my non-divorce, sub 25 weight or else!!! I've got a few options to get me there (lighter pedals, lighter saddle, lighter brakes, lighter wheels, lighter bars, lighter BB, lighter rings, etc...). If the finances are in shape to do the divorce build - it would be a fun exercise, that's for sure.

    I would venture to guess Phil_rad's size L JET may not be the 26lbs as the shop scale said. It might be more in the 25.x category. Then again, those Racing Ralphs, the XTR cassette, the Ritchey stem, the bar ends, hubs, etc... all are areas where there are lighter part options or choices available.

    Excel spreadsheet - weigh each part and plug and play until the numbers approach the target. I'm currently at 24.45 on the non-divorce build and 22.67 with the divorce build. And the 24.45 includes my Avid mechanical disc brakes, rotors, pads, adapters, housing, cables and levers. And then one makes preference decisions that may - pardon the pun - "outweigh" the lighter part choice.

    The divorce build can't happen until the Formula R1's and the NoTubes ZTR race wheels hit the market in 2009. And we really don't have final weights of either of those products - so the target area of 270 grams (plus IS adapters and bolts) for the R1's and the 1400g final weight "guesstimate" by the NoTubes.com staff on their message boards for the 29"er ZTR race wheelset remains to be seen.

    But that's all moot. A 24 - 25 lb. XL full suspension 29er is a win-win.

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    I have parts flying to me from all over the world at the moment (including the frame and the gram scale to weigh it all on) .
    Some of the stuff I have looked at I am sitting wondering whether it is worth the additional $. Xo vs X9 is a good example of this when the cost is so much more for the X0 just to save 10g or so.
    I also have to wonder whether a $15 ti bolt kit will save the same amount of weight off the X9 derailleur as spending $200+ for the X0?!?!

    But maybe I am posting these thoughts in the wrong forum!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    I have parts flying to me from all over the world at the moment (including the frame and the gram scale to weigh it all on) .
    Some of the stuff I have looked at I am sitting wondering whether it is worth the additional $. Xo vs X9 is a good example of this when the cost is so much more for the X0 just to save 10g or so.
    I also have to wonder whether a $15 ti bolt kit will save the same amount of weight off the X9 derailleur as spending $200+ for the X0?!?!

    But maybe I am posting these thoughts in the wrong forum!?!?!?
    I don't buy XO for that very reason, but I DO buy Ti bolts. Not to save the weight really, but to have non-corrosive bling on the whole bike for less than the cost of an XO derailleur. Ti bolts last and look great forever, I have some that have probably been on three or four different bikes and I just keep transferring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    I also have to wonder whether a $15 ti bolt kit will save the same amount of weight off the X9 derailleur as spending $200+ for the X0?!?!
    Search around on the Internet and you can get the X0 RD for under $150.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flafonta
    Search around on the Internet and you can get the X0 RD for under $150.
    Sorry
    $200 Australian.

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    Ready JET9

    Okay, it's basically ready. Still waiting on a 36t chainring but I got everything else installed. Not sure about weight but I am guessing 27-28lbs based on other builds. EDIT: Pleasant surprise, it's just over 26lbs (about 26.3?) finished. I was looking again at other JETs and I guess I don't know why I initially thought mine was going to be heavier.

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    Nice bike!

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    JMH, that's a really nice looking JET9 Pity the black Minute's aren't available retail - although easily solveable with a fork strip and some good matte black spray paint. What's the primary use for this bike, trails or do you race? Just asking as they're much faster rolling tyres you could put on it if you're racing - personal favourite is the maxxis CrossMark, for weight to grip to rolling resistance.
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    Nice JMH.
    I like it a lot.
    Makes me want to take the day off work and "finish" mine (until my new wheels are built anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    JMH, that's a really nice looking JET9 Pity the black Minute's aren't available retail - although easily solveable with a fork strip and some good matte black spray paint. What's the primary use for this bike, trails or do you race? Just asking as they're much faster rolling tyres you could put on it if you're racing - personal favourite is the maxxis CrossMark, for weight to grip to rolling resistance.
    Thanks for all the props!

    This is the only 29er in my stable of bigger bikes. I will use it for epics down in the Utah desert this spring and then fast XC rides in Park City during the summer. Honestly I only selected these tires because my old Ignitors were clapped out, it was time for new rubber and this is what I had in the garage.

    It may get more varied use depending on how well it works for me as a trail bike. I currently prefer with the way a 26" wheeled 6" bike rides on my favorite terrain, but we'll see!

    Some of these pics show the rides I love on my 29er (had an Orbea Alma 29) and some of the other terrain that I prefer on kiddie wheels.

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    ... and if we just ... Definitely need some tyres

    First up let me say - Really looking forward to reading your impressions/thoughts on the JET9 riding in that terrain.

    Definitely if you're planning on doing some racing, I'd seriously consider some new rubber and if you'll be using the JET9 for that other riding or at least trying it def some new rubber. My recomendations would be a Rampage REAR/Nevegal FRONT for the aggressive stuff and Crossmark REAR/Ignitor FRONT for the racing. I've run both these combos for exactly what I suggest them for and was super happy with each. Used the Rampage R/Nev F combo this summer in CO doing the Monarch Trail 35 mile route including Rainbow Trail. I even ran the Rampage in the fast/forward direction and no traction issues. For most of the visit I ran the Crossmark R/Rampage F. Raced (rode is more accurate, as I was just trying to survive) the Crossmark R/Ignitor F combo at both Leadville and Laramie. All this on my 31lb RIP9.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMH
    Thanks for all the props!

    This is the only 29er in my stable of bigger bikes. I will use it for epics down in the Utah desert this spring and then fast XC rides in Park City during the summer. Honestly I only selected these tires because my old Ignitors were clapped out, it was time for new rubber and this is what I had in the garage.

    It may get more varied use depending on how well it works for me as a trail bike. I currently prefer with the way a 26" wheeled 6" bike rides on my favorite terrain, but we'll see!

    Some of these pics show the rides I love on my 29er (had an Orbea Alma 29) and some of the other terrain that I prefer on kiddie wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    First up let me say - Really looking forward to reading your impressions/thoughts on the JET9 riding in that terrain.

    Definitely if you're planning on doing some racing, I'd seriously consider some new rubber and if you'll be using the JET9 for that other riding or at least trying it def some new rubber. My recomendations would be a Rampage REAR/Nevegal FRONT for the aggressive stuff and Crossmark REAR/Ignitor FRONT for the racing.
    I think that once spring rolls around I will be looking at those combos, I really like the Ignitor, and I have nothing but Nevegals on my 26" bikes, so I am pretty fond of those as well. These Bonestranglers will work for photos.

    What did you think of Rainbow Rim? I think I was expecting something a bit more rugged, I had the wrong bike for sure, wished the whole time I had a 29er hardtail.

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    Another one on the trails in the european alps (Hometown: Munich, Germany):



    Frame Size L
    Shifter: X0
    Rear Derailleur: X0
    Front derailleur: not yet mounted
    Crankset: Stylo
    Stem: Thomson Elite
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    Pedals: Ritchey
    Wheelset: Will be ZTR Flow/Hope 2/WTB Exiwolf - at the moment it's not the final one
    Fork: Fox F29, 80mm
    Bar: Bontrager Select
    Saddle: Flite - the old one
    Headset: Chris King
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7 185/185

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    Hi ellen_muenchen,

    Great looking bike and build, can't wait for mine to arrive.

    I'm wating for my XL JET to arrive and it was a difficult choice as I was sort of in between sizes at 6'3". Can I ask what the BB to the top of the saddle height is, as your looks quite high? I'll have mine set at about 83.5cm.

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    Hi Timmoth,

    mine is set somewhere between 80.5 and 81.5...

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    Thanks Ellen, helps me to come to the conclusion that my maybe my XL will probably be the right size.

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