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    I wouldn't panic about the frame size, I have some friends your size on med & they work well, But with a 50mm stem.

    My point was more that when you go with the larger of the 2 frames that you fit that it is normal to go to a shorter stem to bring the bike back down to size.

    With your setup you have your cockpit longer than I do on my Large Niners & I'm 6 foot.

    Put a 50mm stem on it & if that doesn't feel right after a few rides then go wider in the bars & leave the 50mm stem on it.

    Also IMO flatten out your seat, As it is pushing you further forward as well.

    The Jet9 RDO can work very well as a trail bike IMO but you have got to get your weight back if you want to kill the down hills.


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    Pic attached. Best I could do short notice. Thanks for the insight.

    @BruceBrown....I 100% agree there is a lot of rider skill in the way I feel. And I consciously (which could be my issue) go into ever turn trying to take a better angle of attack, lean correctly and lay off the brakes. I had some better success this morning in a few turns.

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    re: sizing. This was a really tough call for me. I demoed a Med RIP 9 and could not find fault in the bike or the size. I did feel tall on it, but that seemed to disappear as I road. It felt great climbing or descending so I translated that to the Jet. I think you'll find a lot of folks here around 5'7-5'8 who struggle between a Med/Small. Still, it would be interesting to demo a small and see if I find the bike quicker.

    re: Stem....When I was on the 70mm I felt the bike was squirrelly on both climbs and descents. I really did not like it all all. The bike felt more precise and stable moving to the 90mm. It would be interesting to try a 50mm just for a sanity check.

    re: Fork/Shock...I have had the Rev serviced by a certified RS tech and he feels it is OK. I think its doing it's job, but will also play around with the settings. I have not hand the Fox shock serviced yet not at the hours limit, but will do that after this summer

    Dropper....seems like its worth a try. A lot cheaper than switching bikes and dropping my center of gravity only makes sense.

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    Got it. I'll give a shorter stem a try.

    I'll have to check out the seat angle. I don't recall it being so dramatically pointing downward. May be the angle of the picture as it feels fine riding but obviously, I'd be pushed forward if it is that dramatic.

    Thanks for all the input. I'll report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourdaguy View Post
    I agree on the shorter stem. I am 5' 10"and have 80-90 mm stems on all and all are medium. All are Niner's.
    5'10" here as well... 75mm on med sir9 and 80mm on med jet9.👍

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    Re: OFFICIAL: JET9 Picture and Setup Thread

    One thing to consider also is weight distribution. On all of my bikes I ended up with 40% of my weight on the front. After a long time of all my setups being where I felt they were perfect, I wanted to see if I could learn something. I weighed myself holding each bike and then weighed the front wheel with me sitting in my riding position. The rear was supported in a trainer. Within 2 lbs, every single bike had exactly 40%of the weight on the front. I was surprised how tight the spread was, and in the future I will use this as a guide to speed future setup.
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    OFFICIAL: JET9 Picture and Setup Thread



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    Nice pics!

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    Re: OFFICIAL: JET9 Picture and Setup Thread

    My buddy picked a frame on sale for $850. Swapped parts off of a hard tail....great bike!







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    Had to itch to replace some bits, lose weight and gain travel.... 24lbs with a lefty upgrade to 110mm.
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    Awesome!^^^^^ I want to do a lefty carbon to drop a few more grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodstockMTB View Post
    Got it. I'll give a shorter stem a try.

    I'll have to check out the seat angle. I don't recall it being so dramatically pointing downward. May be the angle of the picture as it feels fine riding but obviously, I'd be pushed forward if it is that dramatic.

    Thanks for all the input. I'll report back.

    -Dan
    Update on my downhill dilemma.

    Slapped a 50mm stem on my J9 RDO. Downhill is much, much improved over the prior 90mm & the 70mm I had when I built the bike up. In general the bike rides better in most conditions except climbing.

    As when I had the 70mm stem on the bike, I pop the front wheel way too readily when the climbing gets only a little steep. The front end is floaty on the up and that is frustrating compared to the 90MM stem which felt planted and climbed like a goat.

    I messed around with my seated position today and I think I can find a way to make it work, but its not my natural climbing position. I have to keep most weight off the bars when climbing and only steer enough to maintain my line. I'm sure if I had the ability to drop from 120mm to 100mm it might feel different, but I don't have the dual position Rev.

    Thanks for the help. The bike does ride bitter....just need to lean to climb again.


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    Hello All

    I am about to join this club. I ordered at M Jet 9 RDO in licorice from Colorado Cyclist:

    Niner JET 9 RDO Carbon Frame

    I would like some expert input on a few questions I have. I know Niner says they "don't do model years" but I want to makes sure I am getting what I think I am. And that is the Jet 9 RDO model run that was just replaced by the newest and just released red/carbon and blaze/graphite that is on their website.

    1) When I look at pictures of other licorice color J9 RDO's some have a white "Niner" logo on the rear triangle and some don't. What is the difference there?

    2) I am 5' 10'' and 225 lbs....not slim....I currently am riding a 2011 medium Rip9 Alloy with a 50mm stem and 685mm riser bars. From my Jet9 demo ride today, I know I want wider bars. I also like to sit more upright on the RIP. Any recommendations of stem length and bar combination that I should start with? I am setting the bike up much more as a "trail" machine vs race as I don't race. Hence, I am putting a 120mm Fox 32 fork on the front. Arch EX rims. XT 2x10 drivetrain

    3) How easy is the thru cable installation on the frame? I have friends that are quite good at building up bikes, but this will be the first time doing this. Will they be challenged and I should take it to a Niner shop? I know there is a good video online describing the process for Niner, but those videos always make things look so easy.

    Thanks for any input

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    It looks like it is the older frame & the price would suggest that as well.

    If you don't mind me asking, Why did you choose the Jet9 RDO over the Rip9 RDO given your weight & the fact you like a more upright position ??



    Quote Originally Posted by dba4life View Post
    Hello All

    I am about to join this club. I ordered at M Jet 9 RDO in licorice from Colorado Cyclist:

    Niner JET 9 RDO Carbon Frame

    I would like some expert input on a few questions I have. I know Niner says they "don't do model years" but I want to makes sure I am getting what I think I am. And that is the Jet 9 RDO model run that was just replaced by the newest and just released red/carbon and blaze/graphite that is on their website.

    1) When I look at pictures of other licorice color J9 RDO's some have a white "Niner" logo on the rear triangle and some don't. What is the difference there?

    2) I am 5' 10'' and 225 lbs....not slim....I currently am riding a 2011 medium Rip9 Alloy with a 50mm stem and 685mm riser bars. From my Jet9 demo ride today, I know I want wider bars. I also like to sit more upright on the RIP. Any recommendations of stem length and bar combination that I should start with? I am setting the bike up much more as a "trail" machine vs race as I don't race. Hence, I am putting a 120mm Fox 32 fork on the front. Arch EX rims. XT 2x10 drivetrain

    3) How easy is the thru cable installation on the frame? I have friends that are quite good at building up bikes, but this will be the first time doing this. Will they be challenged and I should take it to a Niner shop? I know there is a good video online describing the process for Niner, but those videos always make things look so easy.

    Thanks for any input

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    It looks like it is the older frame & the price would suggest that as well.

    If you don't mind me asking, Why did you choose the Jet9 RDO over the Rip9 RDO given your weight & the fact you like a more upright position ??
    The "older" frame was the v1 RDO that was then changed into the Jet 9 "Carbon" when Niner released the v2 RDO. They both have the 135mm rear axle. The item description on Colorado Cyclist specifically states the 12x142 rear axle and the "next generation cable routing" so I thought I was in good shape thinking this is v2 RDO??

    Good question on the decision and something that I mulled over a lot. I want a second bike but I didn't want to "replace" the RIP 9. So I plan to run the Jet 9 on trails that don't have as many "all mountain" type features - which we have many of around Raleigh, NC where I am located. I will still run the RIP 9 on trails that have larger jumps, drops and rough downhill sections.

    I feel the RIP 9 allows me to "get away with a lot on the trail" by just letting me take any line and making it work. I am interested in trying to improve my riding with the Jet. However, with my body and age (41) I was not interested in bouncing around on a hardtail. The Jet gets me somewhere near hardtail performance on XC terrain and climbing but with not near the abuse. I also wanted the ability to switch components between my current RIP and whatever new bike I got. So something like my 120 Fox 32 that is sitting on the shelf now that I took off the RIP (replaced with a 140 Pike) I could now put to use again.

    If I could only have one bike I would have no doubt it would be a RIP. I love it. I just didn't want to upgrade to a RIP 9 RDO because I never would have ridden the old alloy RIP again and now have 2 bikes to give me a better range to select from depending on where we are riding.

    Hope that all makes sense. Appreciate the questions.

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    By saying the older 1 I was saying not version 3 but V2

    Quote Originally Posted by dba4life View Post
    The "older" frame was the v1 RDO that was then changed into the Jet 9 "Carbon" when Niner released the v2 RDO. They both have the 135mm rear axle. The item description on Colorado Cyclist specifically states the 12x142 rear axle and the "next generation cable routing" so I thought I was in good shape thinking this is v2 RDO??

    Good question on the decision and something that I mulled over a lot. I want a second bike but I didn't want to "replace" the RIP 9. So I plan to run the Jet 9 on trails that don't have as many "all mountain" type features - which we have many of around Raleigh, NC where I am located. I will still run the RIP 9 on trails that have larger jumps, drops and rough downhill sections.

    I feel the RIP 9 allows me to "get away with a lot on the trail" by just letting me take any line and making it work. I am interested in trying to improve my riding with the Jet. However, with my body and age (41) I was not interested in bouncing around on a hardtail. The Jet gets me somewhere near hardtail performance on XC terrain and climbing but with not near the abuse. I also wanted the ability to switch components between my current RIP and whatever new bike I got. So something like my 120 Fox 32 that is sitting on the shelf now that I took off the RIP (replaced with a 140 Pike) I could now put to use again.

    If I could only have one bike I would have no doubt it would be a RIP. I love it. I just didn't want to upgrade to a RIP 9 RDO because I never would have ridden the old alloy RIP again and now have 2 bikes to give me a better range to select from depending on where we are riding.

    Hope that all makes sense. Appreciate the questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    By saying the older 1 I was saying not version 3 but V2
    Sorry I am still learning which is always dangerous post purchase

    v1 = The original Jet 9 RDO - most I see are white and black and had the 135 rear axle. Introduced in late 2011? Was there also a black version of this frame available? Also appears to be orange?

    v2 = The the introduction of the 142 rear axle, carbon links and updated cable routing. Also with this one the Jet 9 Carbon was introduced which was the original v1 RDO frame updated cable routing? Introduced in early 2013 from what I can tell. I think the colors were licorice and lime green?

    v3 = The ones just released this month with their new carbon compaction saving a bit of weight on the RDO? New colors of course.

    Is that basically correct? I think I have a v2 coming....which at $1999 I felt well worth it vs $2850 of the new version. I am just confused by some of the graphics I see on the licorice versions of the frame with some with white lettering. Thinking now that is v1? The v2 "licorice" has slightly contrasting niner letters making the frame look all black except for the top tube which has Jet 9 RDO and "Pedal Dammit" in red lettering.

    Thanks!

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    Yes it sounds like you have got a handle on it, Other than that the early V2 had the same cable setup as V1, So I guess the later V2 should really be V3 & the latest being V4.

    Quote Originally Posted by dba4life View Post
    Sorry I am still learning which is always dangerous post purchase

    v1 = The original Jet 9 RDO - most I see are white and black and had the 135 rear axle. Introduced in late 2011? Was there also a black version of this frame available? Also appears to be orange?

    v2 = The the introduction of the 142 rear axle, carbon links and updated cable routing. Also with this one the Jet 9 Carbon was introduced which was the original v1 RDO frame updated cable routing? Introduced in early 2013 from what I can tell. I think the colors were licorice and lime green?

    v3 = The ones just released this month with their new carbon compaction saving a bit of weight on the RDO? New colors of course.

    Is that basically correct? I think I have a v2 coming....which at $1999 I felt well worth it vs $2850 of the new version. I am just confused by some of the graphics I see on the licorice versions of the frame with some with white lettering. Thinking now that is v1? The v2 "licorice" has slightly contrasting niner letters making the frame look all black except for the top tube which has Jet 9 RDO and "Pedal Dammit" in red lettering.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    Yes it sounds like you have got a handle on it, Other than that the early V2 had the same cable setup as V1, So I guess the later V2 should really be V3 & the latest being V4.
    Cool, thanks.

    Any thoughts on the setup and cable routing?

    2) I am 5' 10'' and 225 lbs....not slim....I currently am riding a 2011 medium Rip9 Alloy with a 50mm stem and 685mm riser bars. From my Jet9 demo ride today, I know I want wider bars. I also like to sit more upright on the RIP. Any recommendations of stem length and bar combination that I should start with? I am setting the bike up much more as a "trail" machine vs race as I don't race. Hence, I am putting a 120mm Fox 32 fork on the front. Arch EX rims. XT 2x10 drivetrain

    3) How easy is the thru cable installation on the frame? I have friends that are quite good at building up bikes, but this will be the first time doing this. Will they be challenged and I should take it to a Niner shop? I know there is a good video online describing the process for Niner, but those videos always make things look so easy.

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    Pretty sure there was a V 1.1 or something like that where they went from the ZS44/ZS56 press fit headset to the drop in Campy Style IS headset.

    Not a big deal but figured I'd throw it in there.

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    Wow. That's a lot of seat post height.
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    Re: OFFICIAL: JET9 Picture and Setup Thread

    Here's my jet 9 rdo. Just finished putting it back together after a frame crack on the seat tube, slightly above the crank. This picture is right before the initial shake down ride yesterday. Everything worked great! OFFICIAL:  JET9 Picture and Setup Thread-uploadfromtaptalk1409322333231.jpg

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    Here's my foray in the carbon wonderbike world. Definitely more 'trail' than XC, but that's how you'd explain the majority of the trails along the Front Range of CO.

    Large J9RDO
    Fork: 120mm Fox 32 CTD Adj Kashima
    Wheels: 1500g - LB Hookless carbon, 27mm, AM Classic/BHS (Bitex) hubs
    Bar: 740mm Renthal Carbon FatBar Lite
    Stem: 75mm Truvative Stylo T30
    Seat: Bontrager Evoke RXL carbon
    Post: RS Reverb 100mm dropper
    Brakes: XT's, 180mm IceTech rotors FR/RR
    Tires: 2.3 Ground Control, 2.2 Geax TNT AKA... Have 2.3 Purgatory Control for rougher trails
    Crank: SRAM S2200 (XO), 24/36T or 24/38T
    Cassette: XT
    Derailluers: X9 rr, X0/XT fr

    I'll probably get a 31.6 carbon post for weight weenie type riding
    I have a 160 IceTech rotor for the rear, but like big brakes
    Probably could stand to flip the stem as well, looks like I could use a little more saddle-to-bar drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trial11 View Post
    Here's my jet 9 rdo. Just finished putting it back together after a frame crack on the seat tube, slightly above the crank. This picture is right before the initial shake down ride yesterday. Everything worked great! Click image for larger version. 

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    Holy seatpost batman! Looks like you could be another 2-3 frame sizes larger? Optical illusion?
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    Admittedly, my seat posts are usually long (road bike, mountain, doesn't matter), but this picture seems to make it look especially long. I'm within the spec for both the frame and the seatpost. The frame is a large and I'm about 6'2", but I'm mostly leg.

    I'll see if a different picture helps it look less ridiculous.

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