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    Quote Originally Posted by Couloirman View Post
    Almost pulled the trigger on a new warbird a few days ago but glad I spent more time goolging and found this! Anyone receive theirs yet?
    My Niner dealer told me to expect them in February. Is this not the case? Has anyone else heard otherwise?

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    My Niner dealer told me to expect them in February. Is this not the case? Has anyone else heard otherwise?
    Mine said January... When I put my deposit down it was December/January....so sliding right with each visit.

    I've been collecting parts...soon I'm gonna have everything but the frame and the wait is really gonna hurt then

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    I talked to a Niner guy at a demo today. He said they expect the first run to be late January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiflow_21 View Post
    For the guys with little road knowledge, think of both 105 and Rival as roughly equivalent to SLX level components. Rival is slightly lighter, but I prefer shimano 105. Everyone has their own preferences so it'd be best to try both somewhere, the shifting action is different between shimano and sram. Both groupsets are great, so you'll be fine with either build.

    Once you get farther into the details the $3k build has a few upgrades over the $2k (crank, wheelset, hydro disc brakes, carbon seatpost). If I were buying now I'd likely opt for the $3k build primarily based on the wheels and hydro disc brakes, however the $2k build is well spec'd as well.
    I am currently debating which build to get as well. What makes you like the 105 over the Rival? For me I am debating durability and reliability in mud. I plan on taking this bike on some really long rides multi day rides where it might get really wet and muddy. Am leaning towards the $2k build for that reason alone in case I destroy the bike quickly, but kinda wanted to upgrade the wheels so am on the fence cause once I upgrade the wheels I will be at almost $3K anyway.

    I am itching to get my pre order in asap so I can snag one in the first run of these things

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couloirman View Post
    I am currently debating which build to get as well. What makes you like the 105 over the Rival? For me I am debating durability and reliability in mud. I plan on taking this bike on some really long rides multi day rides where it might get really wet and muddy. Am leaning towards the $2k build for that reason alone in case I destroy the bike quickly, but kinda wanted to upgrade the wheels so am on the fence cause once I upgrade the wheels I will be at almost $3K anyway.

    I am itching to get my pre order in asap so I can snag one in the first run of these things
    I plan on getting the 2k version, and buying an extra wheelset w/ the money I save. After that I'll set the stock wheels up w/ some slicks for road riding and set up tubeless on the new set w/ offroad tires.

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    Fontarin, what wheel set do you plan on buying?

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    I am now told January delivery as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacons View Post
    Fontarin, what wheel set do you plan on buying?
    Hadn't decided yet - I'll probably try to find something used. Maybe the Iron Cross if I can find them on the cheap.

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    Gave my down payment to Chain Line Cycles for my 47cm RLT frameset. Now to just wait. I will be using Crests with Slant Six SCT 700x32 tires and the majority of the SRAM Force stuff coming from my Soma Double Cross. Trying to figure out what brakes to go with. I contemplated TRP Hylex with a barcon shifter set up 1x10, but also thinking TRP Spyres since shifting from the hoods does make a difference in cross races.

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    You could move all the force stuff off the soma and set up the left hand shifter for brake only. CX magazine has a hack to pull out the shifty bit from a sram shifter.

    Single Ring: Removing the Double and Tap from SRAM Double Tap | Cyclocross Magazine ? Cyclocross News, Races, Bikes, Photos, Videos

    Force 1x10 with a wolf tooth 42 front and wifli 11-32 rear is what I have waiting form my RLT build.

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    Still daydreaming about this bike.....thanks for listening.
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    Niner RLT9

    Me too! Strictly a mtb'er without a real interest in road riding, but something about this bike appeals to me. I ride some gravel roads and it would work well for that, but it makes me want to find other uses - commuter, bar hopper, casual road, winter trainer....

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    This bike makes me want to find a group to go do some all day gravel grinding. Very appealing indeed.

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    Im excited to hear how much these weigh. Wish it came with the RDO fork for QR15. I think I'm going to end up getting the 2 star 105 spec model and upgrade to some china carbon wheels.

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    It would weigh less if it was carbon.

    I am kinda wondering why make this out of alloy?

    Considering Niner's expertise in steel and the touring nature of the bike I reckon the base model should have been steel with carbon fork and the premium model carbon with carbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozynigma View Post
    It would weigh less if it was carbon.

    I am kinda wondering why make this out of alloy?

    Considering Niner's expertise in steel and the touring nature of the bike I reckon the base model should have been steel with carbon fork and the premium model carbon with carbon.
    I don't know...but how much less would it really weight if it were all carbon? They list it at 3.08 pounds with the carbon fork. Cant imagine the weight difference being very noticeable, but I'm sure the price would have been way higher. Steel would have been nice, but I am glad it isnt carbon
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    My guess is an all carbon version is coming as long as the bike is selling well

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    Maybe 500gr lighter in carbon based on similar weights for 29'er mtb's.

    My point is that I think aluminium is a technical dead end for the bicycle industry for hard tail/rigid bikes.

    If you need the weight saving of alu over steel/titanium to be at the pointy end and win races then you will now go with carbon.

    If you don't need the weight saving then imo steel is a better frame building material for the average rider. Of course I mean properly engineering high quality, high strength butted steel tubing. If you can afford it ti is better again for rigid/hard tail bikes.

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    Sold my carbon Superfly and my Moots YBB. Neither one made me a better rider, but then again, I ride for fun. I like Titanium and carbon has its place, but I just dont think that making this bike a $5000 bike to save a POUND would appeal to the masses. It would definitely appeal to some, but for the ultra lighters that are trying to win a race, are they going to buy this bike anyways? Maybe...but I dont see this as a race bike, so why make it unnecessarily more expensive? Just my opinion.
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    I am enjoying the friendly sharing of opinions fat_tires. Just saw your bike list in your footer.

    I am basically saying the same thing. This should have been a steel frame because in this class of bike a pound or so is insignificant.

    My initial comment was only that it would be lighter in carbon, not necessarily better.

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    Fair enough. Agree that steel would be nice, but looking forward to this one regardless.....enjoying the conversations as well. Have a good evening
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    I don't see this bike as a tourer - the stays are too short and it looks like racks would be awkward to mount. And if it was steel it would compete against a bunch of other bikes - Surly Straggler, Kona Rove, Salsa Vaya. By going aluminum they could position it a bit more into the racing crowd and test the market cheaply without having to make a commitment to producing carbon molds in an area that's still a new category. The hydroformed tubes already hint to a possible carbon shape and aluminum is a better choice for mating to a tapered steerer fork. And if it pans out, they can come out with the carbon bike as an upgrade. If the bike was a steel tourer you can't really go upmarket.

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    I have almost all my parts in now. I will be going SRAM barend shifters with an X9 rear dearailleur and a Wolf Tooth 40T N/W ring up front. The brakes will start out as Avid mechanicals, but plan to get TRP Hylex by cross season. This thing will be a nice mix of modern tech and retro-grouch at the same time. My one last decision is do I go with a Biocentric II and the crankset I have or do I go with a PF bottom bracket and get a 30mm crankset?

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    Ordered the 105 spec build. Supposed to be in sometime in February. I'm going to go with the stock wheelset for road, and steal my Stan's Crest wheelset off my mountain bike for gravel/singletrack and easy tubeless setup. Still haven't decided on the tires in that configuration, so if anyone has suggestions for a 42-45c tire, let me know.

    Outside magazine posted a review, but there's not much to it:
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    I'm probably going with Bruce Gordon rock n roll tires for my build. Tubeless, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fogerson View Post
    I'm probably going with Bruce Gordon rock n roll tires for my build. Tubeless, of course.
    That's what I'm considering now too. Saw those last night and the tread pattern looks good. I'm waiting to see how the tire clearance is on the fork to see if it'll fit a beefier tire.

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    Also just noticed that the 4-star has changed to a much nicer build in the past few days - 11 spd SRAM Force groupset with BB7 brakes. Wish I had ordered that one now :\

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    That's what I'm considering now too. Saw those last night and the tread pattern looks good. I'm waiting to see how the tire clearance is on the fork to see if it'll fit a beefier tire.
    Guitar Ted, et al, had a pretty good write up on the rock and roll over at gravelgrindernews.com.

    I figure I'll run those on a set of c29ssmaxs I have for on and off road duty and run some ubiquitous 32c tire on another wheelset for commuting. Well, unless the r and r road buzz doesn't drive me to nuts on the road.

    We are getting close guys!!! The rlt9s should start showing up in a couple weeks

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    Yeah, it looks like they'll start shipping to US on 2/13, and international on 3/10.

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    Yeah, it looks like they'll start shipping to US on 2/13, and international on 3/10.
    Do you know if that is the same for complete bikes and frames? Hoping frames may come a little sooner

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    Do you know if that is the same for complete bikes and frames? Hoping frames may come a little sooner
    No idea. I just saw the dates in the newsletter that Niner posted over on Facebook.

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    From what I hear, frames & completes on Feb. 13. They better, my patience is waning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacons View Post
    From what I hear, frames & completes on Feb. 13. They better, my patience is waning.
    I hear ya...

    Oh well, 'gives me a little more time to decide on what I'm gonna do for brakes. 'Leaning towards TRP Hy/rd, but a little wary of frame clearance in the rear (already have a note off to Niner to see if they know if that is a problem). Good deals on the TRP paradox system out there, but not so sure about that. Maybe the mechanical route w/spyres, bb7, Hayes?

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    I got the call from my shop that my frameset is set to ship sometime between 2/13-18. I am only missing a bottom bracket, chain, and cables/housing. So I hope to have this thing built before the end of the month will post some pics as the build goes together.

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    Nice....look forward to seeing it. They say spring is right around the corner.
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    i am ordering mine tomorrow. I am 6' and plan to go with the 56. I always feel like it is a bit easier to stretch out using a longer stem and set back post vs. trying to make a big bike smaller. Mine will come in with a bunch of bikes the shop is ordering so I am sure they would let me swap if when they show up the 59 seems better. Going with the cheaper build by the way. Seems plenty solid for all around use.

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    Word is my frame set shipped yesterday. So in a little over a week I'll start posting some build pics.
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    Let the fun begin!!!

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    Looks nice. How's the build quality (i.e. welds, paint, et. al.)?

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    Looks nice. How's the build quality (i.e. welds, paint, et. al.)?
    The paint is pretty nice. The hydroformed tubing looks pretty nice.

    The welds are "eh"; not as nice as my rip or jet and certainly no Turner . The welds are pretty thick and not a lot of that neat and tight circular pattern. Finish seems pretty thick so ya really don't notice the welds.

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    Let us know your final build and build weight Still hoping mine will come in before my gravel ride on Saturday.

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    The parts pile looks like this:

    Frame: 56cm, Industry Grey
    Wheels: Hope Pro II Evo's, DT Swiss Champ spokes, 32H, Velocity Dyads (yeah, I know, a bit porky...but my first wheel build so I didn't want to get too crazy and I'm a clyde so...)
    Skewers: DT Swiss 9mm.
    Tires: Bruce Gordon Rock & Roads (700 x 43c)
    BB: CK PF30 (red!)
    Cranks: SRAM Red (50/34)
    Brakes: TRP HY/RD 160mm F & R
    Pedals: Time XC8 Carbons
    Shifters: SRAM Force (zero loss)
    FD: SRAM Red Yaw
    RD: SRAM X9 (laying in a box in the shop, so why not? It's red).
    Cas: SRAM PC-1070, 11-32
    Chain: SRAM 1091R
    Seat: Serfas Tegu Comp
    Seat Post: Niner RDO Carbon
    Bars: FSA Omega Compact
    Stem: Thomson 100mm X4 (black, also laying around in a box in the shop).
    Cables: Jagwire Road Pro compression-less.

    According to my spreadsheet it should land around 21 lbs 'n change.

    'Hope that I can finish the build this weekend. Will post up pics when I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fogerson View Post
    The paint is pretty nice. The hydroformed tubing looks pretty nice.

    The welds are "eh"; not as nice as my rip or jet and certainly no Turner . The welds are pretty thick and not a lot of that neat and tight circular pattern. Finish seems pretty thick so ya really don't notice the welds.

    The welds at the head tube, seat tube and bottom bracket are not your standard welds. They are what is known as single pass flat welds and they do have a slightly different appearance.

    When welding tube to tube (ie: the front triangle), this single pass flat weld disperses loads more effectively than does a standard tig weld. This effect is most prominent on tube to tube welds and thus is only used on the front triangle. Flat welds allowed us to use thinner wall sections on larger tube areas and still give us an increase in strength and stiffness.

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    Thanks for the explanation Carla. 'Still not the cleanest looking weld in the world, but hey, as long as it doesn't it's job I'm good

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    Just needs the rdo seatpost to arrive and a few finishing touches/setup.



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    Looks very nice.

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    Niner hit it out of the park with this frame. 53 cm Niner RTL built up with parts myself and my buddy Tom had laying around. Currently set up for winter road bike duty. Waiting on TRP Sprye to come in early next week, so rigged up with some Tektro MTB calipers for now

    Build highlights

    Wheel set Velocity A23's 24H laced to silver WTB race lite hubs, Hutchinson sector tires 28mm setup tubeless.
    Drive train Rival sifters, Force 50/34 compact cranks, X0 type2 rear derailleur, 105 front derailleur,
    11-32 Sram xx cassette,Treko MTB to be replaced with Trpe Spyre brakes.
    3t bars, WTB silverado saddle, FSA post, jagwire cables.

    19.1 lbs in ridding trim, should be around 18.5 with the Sprye brakes and a lighter seat post




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    Down to the rdo seatpost and the real saddle and she's done. Close enough for an updated family portrait...


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    My frame is in. Should be getting it tomorrow.

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    Want! Anyone have advice on sizing? This wi be my first road-ish bike.

    I'm 5'10, 31" inseam.

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