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    Niner Flat Top Carbon Bar Feedback?

    Who is running the Niner Flat Top Carbon bar? Is it all it is cracked up to be? How is stiffness? Is weight accurate?

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    I have one on my SIR, and I love it. I'm definitely going to use one when I build up a JET next year. I'd say it's pretty stiff. However, I haven't really focused on that too much. I will say though, that it feels a lot better than the Easton carbon bars that I've used in the past. I don't remember about the weight...it's light.

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    I agree i also have this bar on my sir 9 single speed. I am about to buy another pair for my superfly 1x9. Its a perfect width for mu style of riding. I have truvativ noirs on my sf now, and will sell those off. Very stiff and dampening. I really like the niner carbon they are doing a really good job.

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    I am selling one that was never used and one I cut to 680mm that I had for my two Niners. I like the Syntace Carbon Vector better. It is more comfortable with the slight rise.

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    Cool what color graphic on the uncut? Pm me on all the details. I might take it

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    It's _really_ stiff. I was used to carbon bars having a slight but perceptible give to them, this one does not. Ends of the bars are very well reinforced, did not feel nervous at all about clamping down my Ergon bars ends on them. My only complaint is that with as stiff as it is, it really doesn't help in taking any sting out of the ride as other carbon bars do. With that upside sort-of off the table, an aluminum bar becomes more appealing, all you are saving is weight and flat alloy bars are pretty dang light. For my dollar, I would be pretty tempted to go alloy if I were making the decision again, but I am not unhappy with the carbon bar.

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    Stiff Doesn't Mean Zingy Non-Dampening

    I hear where you're coming from on the price, but have to disagree on the bars stiffness being stingy and therefor just as good as aluminum. I think the main thing about carbon that I prefer is that it takes the zing and muffles it down to a muted vibration. Something that has allowed me to ride much longer. It also depends on what you're riding...if you're on a zingy aluminium frame vs steel vs carbon its going to contribute more or less. I have also noticed that on my steel sir 9 with the niner carbon fork its a really good combo, same goes for my superfly...so I would have to say this bar is laterally stiff (so you can crank on it like a dh aluminum bar on the ups) but in no way does that mean its vibrationally stiff and going to rattle and zing your hands. Its a good bar...lots of companies are trying to model this years and 2012's lines after the width and specs.

    Quote Originally Posted by evilsjg View Post
    It's _really_ stiff. I was used to carbon bars having a slight but perceptible give to them, this one does not. Ends of the bars are very well reinforced, did not feel nervous at all about clamping down my Ergon bars ends on them. My only complaint is that with as stiff as it is, it really doesn't help in taking any sting out of the ride as other carbon bars do. With that upside sort-of off the table, an aluminum bar becomes more appealing, all you are saving is weight and flat alloy bars are pretty dang light. For my dollar, I would be pretty tempted to go alloy if I were making the decision again, but I am not unhappy with the carbon bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peehaw View Post
    I hear where you're coming from on the price, but have to disagree on the bars stiffness being stingy and therefor just as good as aluminum. I think the main thing about carbon that I prefer is that it takes the zing and muffles it down to a muted vibration.
    Yes, carbon bars typically do that, but in my opinion this particular carbon bar does not. At least, the "muting" effect is much less than it is on other carbon bars with which I have experience. Also, all aluminum bars are not created equal, some ride as well as a typical carbon bar. I cannot comment on the Niner alloy bar.

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    Hmmm

    Yeah I don't know anything about the niner aluminium bar but, i've had noir team carbon, easton ml xc carbon, sunline v1 os alu, bontrager rl big sweep alu, and the stiffness of these niner bars are incomparable to any i have tried with the added comfort of carbon and its dampening. I also run ESI Chunky foam grips that help quite a lot too.

    Quote Originally Posted by evilsjg View Post
    It's _really_ stiff. I was used to carbon bars having a slight but perceptible give to them, this one does not. Ends of the bars are very well reinforced, did not feel nervous at all about clamping down my Ergon bars ends on them. My only complaint is that with as stiff as it is, it really doesn't help in taking any sting out of the ride as other carbon bars do. With that upside sort-of off the table, an aluminum bar becomes more appealing, all you are saving is weight and flat alloy bars are pretty dang light. For my dollar, I would be pretty tempted to go alloy if I were making the decision again, but I am not unhappy with the carbon bar.
    Quote Originally Posted by evilsjg View Post
    Yes, carbon bars typically do that, but in my opinion this particular carbon bar does not. At least, the "muting" effect is much less than it is on other carbon bars with which I have experience. Also, all aluminum bars are not created equal, some ride as well as a typical carbon bar. I cannot comment on the Niner alloy bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilsjg View Post
    Yes, carbon bars typically do that, but in my opinion this particular carbon bar does not. At least, the "muting" effect is much less than it is on other carbon bars with which I have experience. Also, all aluminum bars are not created equal, some ride as well as a typical carbon bar. I cannot comment on the Niner alloy bar.
    I agree. My Syntace Vector and Ritchey WCS were better here. I also did not like the 9 degree on the flat bar. But to each their own.

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    I'm running it on my Rip9, 2012 Air9, The bar is solid and wide I highly recommend it.
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    I'd have to agree with evilsjg on this one as well. I am running the niner carbon bar and it is brutally stiff (note: trimmed to ~26 inches due to narrow spaces between the trees where I tend to ride). In comparison, my old Maxm carbon bar was far more forgiving as were my last two aluminum bars (likely due to their 25.4 mm clamp diameter vs the niner's 31.8 mm).

    With the niner bar, I get minor hand discomfort that I never had before. It isn't a huge deal, but its enough that I have tried four different sets of gloves and five different grips in the last three months trying to mitigate the minor discomfort.

    As for carbon bars filtering removing trail buzz, I have only noticed a significant benefit when running a rigid fork. For example, my Maxm carbon bar is better in regards to trail buzz than my old titec aluminum bar on my fully rigid single speed. However, the carbon bar (either the Maxm or the Niner) do not noticably filter trail buzz on my Jet 9 or my old Titus Switchblade (both with 100 mm forks).

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    Quote Originally Posted by evilsjg View Post
    Yes, carbon bars typically do that, but in my opinion this particular carbon bar does not. At least, the "muting" effect is much less than it is on other carbon bars with which I have experience. Also, all aluminum bars are not created equal, some ride as well as a typical carbon bar. I cannot comment on the Niner alloy bar.

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    Not enough sweep for me. Back to my Syntace Vector 12*. About an 11 deg Salsa is the smallest amount of sweep I can get by with.

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    I switched from a Race Face Next 3/4 SL to a Niner Carbon Flat Top and couldn't be happier. The extra width and drop is great, but the feel is much better. Very plush!

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    Has anyone compared these to Enve (edge) flat bars? They have the same sweep and length I believe and are priced relatively close to the same. I ask because I am running Edge bars on my new bike (new to me) but they are cut pretty short at 640 and I might need some wider bars. Any input would be great. Thanks guys!

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    Hey WB, I'm running some Enve bars (flat ones) and there is abit of flex in them. Coming in at 700mm I think they are slightly shorter then the Niner ones.

    I've got a Niner carbon bar on order to fit onto my One 9, will give some feedback on the Niner carbon bar vs the Enve when when the new rig is up and running.

    Here is a pic of the Enve bars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ride True View Post
    Hey WB, I'm running some Enve bars (flat ones) and there is abit of flex in them. Coming in at 700mm I think they are slightly shorter then the Niner ones.

    I've got a Niner carbon bar on order to fit onto my One 9, will give some feedback on the Niner carbon bar vs the Enve when when the new rig is up and running.

    Here is a pic of the Enve bars.

    How do you like that stem? I thought about getting one but was too nervous because I am around 200 lbs and 6'2". They look killer but how do they perform?

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    Bringing this thread back to life - anyone have any long term feedback on the Niner carbon bar? Comparison to the enve bar also welcome...

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    I have the 3T ARX LTD and the Niner flat top carbon bar. The 3T has some flex. The Niner bar is very stiff and rigid in comparison, even for a wider bar. I love the drop and sweep on the Niner bars, but they are a little harsher to ride.

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    Heck my 3T roads bars are really stiff, never seen any 3T MTB bars that are wide enough. Thinking off giving the niner bars a go over the enve bars, to be a little different. We'll see if stiffness is a problem, most of my rides these days are less than 2 1/2 hours so should be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinner View Post
    Heck my 3T roads bars are really stiff, never seen any 3T MTB bars that are wide enough. Thinking off giving the niner bars a go over the enve bars, to be a little different. We'll see if stiffness is a problem, most of my rides these days are less than 2 1/2 hours so should be ok.
    I have the 119 gr ARX LTD 640mm and there is some flex compared to the Niner bar which weighs 50% more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
    I have the 119 gr ARX LTD 640mm and there is some flex compared to the Niner bar which weighs 50% more.
    Shame they aren't wider

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinner View Post
    Shame they aren't wider
    Yeah, that's why I'm using the Niner bar now.

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    TANGENT ALERT!!!

    I currently have a Bontrager RXL Carbon Flat Bar on my RIP. I have no problems with it, but I have been eyeing these NINER Bars for a while. Is there any valid justification for my swap other than looks in anyone else's opinion/experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
    I have the 119 gr ARX LTD 640mm and there is some flex compared to the Niner bar which weighs 50% more.
    I bet if you cut the niner bars down to 640mm you would see a similar weight. And they just released a new lighter version that is the same 710mm wide and you can use bar ends. seems like a no brainer to me, I love my 2 sets of niner carbon bars. They replaced truvativ noir WC carbon and easton xc 90 bars. im gonna have to see about getting new bars now, DANG IT NINER!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoCo29er View Post
    I bet if you cut the niner bars down to 640mm you would see a similar weight.
    I doubt that. At 640mm on my 3T bars, I notice a little flex. At 710mm on my Niner bars, I feel none. The inside walls on the Niner bars are much thicker, especially at the grip the Niner bars appear to be almost twice the thickness of the 3T bars.

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    Enve or niner

    Is there any long term ride reports with the niner carbon bar, or aluminum for that matter? I have a set of edge / enve bars but I got them on a used bike I bought and they have been cut to 640mm. I need something wider at least 680 or 700 and am debating on either the enve or niner bars. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Comparison of the two would be great, ride true did you ever.get a chance to compare?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeast View Post
    Is there any long term ride reports with the niner carbon bar, or aluminum for that matter? I have a set of edge / enve bars but I got them on a used bike I bought and they have been cut to 640mm. I need something wider at least 680 or 700 and am debating on either the enve or niner bars. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Comparison of the two would be great, ride true did you ever.get a chance to compare?
    I have >1500mi on mine, my prior assessment stands. Good bar, wide, stiff, light, bar-end compatible, lots of pro's. Cons, exceedingly stiff for a carbon bar (too stiff) and not exceedingly lighter enough than alloy for the price. It really does ride as harshly as any but the cheapest aluminum bar, as such if I had to do it over again I would go with a Niner alloy bar or try a different carbon bar. I feel that I over-paid for the bar at $135, but I would be willing to try the RDO bar if I found a good enough deal on one.

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    I've had mine for a few months, the niner bars have 5 mm rise they aren't flat. They are super stiff, combined with my carbon lefty they make for a very precise front end. Personally I like that for the new England trails I'm riding, typically my rides are 3 hours or less but for longer rides you may want something more forgiving. Overall quality and finish is superb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildebeast View Post
    Is there any long term ride reports with the niner carbon bar, or aluminum for that matter? I have a set of edge / enve bars but I got them on a used bike I bought and they have been cut to 640mm. I need something wider at least 680 or 700 and am debating on either the enve or niner bars. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Comparison of the two would be great, ride true did you ever.get a chance to compare?
    Hi guys, sorry I've been slack of late posting but yeah. Life and riding is getting in the way!

    So yeap, here is my own person review of the two. I run the Enve XC bars on my geared MCR and the Niner carbon bars (not the RDO Version) on my SS One9.

    Both being worked on, you can make out the bars on the SS.


    Weight wise.


    And my Enve one is posted in the first page of this thread..

    Width
    Personally I like wide bars and both are pretty wide and being on a 29er, the extra width helps bit IMO. The Niner bars pip the Enve by just 10mm, really not noticeable to me once you get on it and ride for abit. So in that respect they are both even.

    Feel
    I reckon this is what it comes down too. I find the Enve is stiffer, stronger and more sturdy. Dunno if the actual frame makes a difference (steal vs scandium) but personally when I'm stomping and climbing I do prefer the Enve.

    The feel of the Enve is smooth and matte like which I like too. The shiny on look of the Niner is nice though, makes the bike look bling if you know what I mean. If your looking at colour matching your bike, then the Niner is the way to go. Got lots of colour options.

    Sweep wise again, I gotta go with the Enve one, possibly cause I've set it up right. I'll play around with rotation abit and eventually I'd get it right

    Both are awesome wide carbon bars and I don't think there is much between them. MY OWN PERSONAL experience is that I do find the Enve stiffer. Plus my wheels and stem are Enve so that is what I'd get if I had a choice, but yeah needed two bars for two bikes, I'm lucky enough to have them both.

    I've heard the RDO is lighter but not sure of the stiffness. Anyone review it yet?

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    Bumping this again - I was looking at buying the RDO flat top bar, but the posts above say it is not light and is probably a bit too harsh on the hands compared to other carbon bars.

    I only want carbon bars if they absorb as much vibration as possible (riding rigid).

    Anyone out there with decent experience on the RDO bar...?

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    Niner Flat Top Carbon Bar Feedback?

    I have it on my bike.. Only about 10 miles on it, I've found it plenty comfortable, but I haven't tried dozens of carbon bars though either.

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    I'm curious about the ride quality between the RDO and standard versions as well, especially since I ride rigid most of the time.

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    I've ridden both Niner bars and a few others. Here's my take: brickhouseracing ¬Ľ Niner Carbon Handlebar vs. Niner RDO Carbon Handlebar
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    I just ordered a RDO bar...hopefully it'll be easier on my hands than my current Easton EA70 bar.

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    Oh yeah, the RDO bar is going to be super nice compared to anything aluminum.
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    Just picked up an RDO bar, mainly for being able to flip it for fit reasons. I know these are bar end compatible, but I still like the idea of solid end plugs. Any recommendation on plugs to use? I've tried fitting the specialized alloy plugs from my old bars but their a tight fit, they seem like they might go with some effort, just wondering if I should try something else like the Hope plugs or similar before installing? I had a bad experience with bar ends on an Easton carbon bar a long time ago and ended up ruining them because I didn't use plugs. Thanks..
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    I replaced a Truvativ T40 riser with a green Niner RDO a while back (mainly for just color reasons) and have been very happy with the change. The T40 carbon bar flexes more. I haven't been able to notice any flex in the RDO. FWIW, I'm using it on a singlespeed setup so it gets heavy use on mashing up climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsskier View Post
    Just picked up an RDO bar, mainly for being able to flip it for fit reasons. I know these are bar end compatible, but I still like the idea of solid end plugs. Any recommendation on plugs to use? I've tried fitting the specialized alloy plugs from my old bars but their a tight fit, they seem like they might go with some effort, just wondering if I should try something else like the Hope plugs or similar before installing? I had a bad experience with bar ends on an Easton carbon bar a long time ago and ended up ruining them because I didn't use plugs. Thanks..
    If the RDO bars are anything like the regular Niner Carbon bars, the Hope plugs will fit, but you'll have to trim the rubber plugs on them down in order to do so.

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    Running one on the rip 9 and one on an e.m.d..... perfect set-up... nice and wide easier and more predicable line on the trails....

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    I picked up an RDO bar...and I do want to say that my hands don't hurt as bad the next day compared to my alu Easton bar.


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    I went with the 710mm Carbon on my Jet9 RDO & 780mm RDO bar on my Rip9 RDO & am very happy with them.
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