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    Jet 9 RDO or Jet 9 Carbon

    I'm at a stand still on which bike I want.

    My dealer is willing to build up either frame to my specs and the price difference is $600.

    He says he would go for the Carbon, save some money, maybe a little more robust and not much of a weight penalty.

    There doesn't seem to be a lot of info out on the Carbon and I wonder what the weight difference would be.

    I don't race but I do want a bike that is below 24 lbs.

    I actually like the Moon-dust color and I don't really care for the green and black RDO. Niner is out of RDO's and they say they should have more next month but we all know how that usually goes.

    I could have the Carbon built up and ready to ride by this weekend. Who knows when I would have the RDO.

    Thought?

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    I'm assuming the carbon is the 2012 RDO, and that is what I have. Mine is a pretty pricey build as most RDO's seem to be and comes in just under 23lb. To I under 24 lb you are looking at an aggressive build either way.
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    Do you consider the rear through axle and carbon upper link important enough to pay the increased price and wait longer? Otherwise, plenty of v1.1 RDO's (synonymous to 2013 J9C) in the 24 lb range.

    IMO, put the extra money into a nicer wheelset and be riding the pony this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NS2000X View Post
    I'm assuming the carbon is the 2012 RDO, and that is what I have. Mine is a pretty pricey build as most RDO's seem to be and comes in just under 23lb. To I under 24 lb you are looking at an aggressive build either way.
    So the Carbon is basically just a 2012 RDO?

    Yes, my build is pretty agreesive.

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    Build the 1 that you can afford to put the best wheels on.

    If that extra $600 is robing some money from the wheel set , Don't do it.
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    You will have to run the Rock Shox Sid and really pay attention to every parts weight to hit 24lbs. I have the 2012 Jet9 RDO frame with a Fox 120mm with QR15 some carbon parts ,XX1 and Stan's Crests with mid weight tires. Mine is currently at 25lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    Build the 1 that you can afford to put the best wheels on.

    If that extra $600 is robing some money from the wheel set , Don't do it.
    Agreed. Wheels is where it is at. oh and Lefty's
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    Jet 9 RDO or Jet 9 Carbon

    My original Jet 9, size XL, is 23.5 lbs. You can get a Jet 9 RDO into the 22 lb range with some solid high end parts, not a problem. Lower than that and you'd be taking weight weenie shortcuts.

    The RDO and Carbon frames weigh almost exactly the same, 5-5.5 lbs, heavier through-axle, lighter carbon rocker.

    The Mavic wheels and especially the Thomson gear is too heavy. Look at Enve.

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    Jet 9 RDO or Jet 9 Carbon

    Did you see the Red Carbon, with matching fork?? Jet 9 Carbon, and upgraded wheels would be a bad ass ride!
    http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psef9c885a.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by five5 View Post
    Did you see the Red Carbon, with matching fork?? Jet 9 Carbon, and upgraded wheels would be a bad ass ride!
    http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psef9c885a.jpg
    I thought I'd like it - but I don't like that photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chomxxo View Post
    My original Jet 9, size XL, is 23.5 lbs. You can get a Jet 9 RDO into the 22 lb range with some solid high end parts, not a problem. Lower than that and you'd be taking weight weenie shortcuts.

    The RDO and Carbon frames weigh almost exactly the same, 5-5.5 lbs, heavier through-axle, lighter carbon rocker.

    The Mavic wheels and especially the Thomson gear is too heavy. Look at Enve.
    That's a light weight Jet 9, especially given it is an XL. Nicely done. I think to get a Jet 9 RDO in to the 21.X's I expect part choices would as-you-point-out, start to feel like weight weenie compromises. My bike is at 22.9 lb, and the only things I feel I'm giving up are maybe an ounce with my XO crankset over an XX (could go lighter with a Cannondale Si). My saddle, a WTB Laser V Stealth, but I'm old enough to not mess with my saddle, and I ride one form of Laser or another on all my bikes, and the stealth is the lightest they have in that form factor (~240g). Leaving the cassette as the one place I know I could go and reclaim 1/4 lb should the mood strike me.

    Bailey44 - you'll save some weight running XX1 over XX chose tires carefully I'm sure you will be good to go. Regardless either will be a blast to ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by five5 View Post
    Did you see the Red Carbon, with matching fork?? Jet 9 Carbon, and upgraded wheels would be a bad ass ride!
    http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psef9c885a.jpg
    Got one. It just arrived at my team's shop. Can't wait!


    Quote Originally Posted by NS2000X View Post
    That's a light weight Jet 9, especially given it is an XL. Nicely done. I think to get a Jet 9 RDO in to the 21.X's I expect part choices would as-you-point-out, start to feel like weight weenie compromises. My bike is at 22.9 lb, and the only things I feel I'm giving up are maybe an ounce with my XO crankset over an XX (could go lighter with a Cannondale Si). My saddle, a WTB Laser V Stealth, but I'm old enough to not mess with my saddle, and I ride one form of Laser or another on all my bikes, and the stealth is the lightest they have in that form factor (~240g). Leaving the cassette as the one place I know I could go and reclaim 1/4 lb should the mood strike me.

    Bailey44 - you'll save some weight running XX1 over XX chose tires carefully I'm sure you will be good to go. Regardless either will be a blast to ride.
    Thank you. A Lefty and 1x10 are two ways to cut weight significantly. I wouldn't use them if I didn't prefer to race them, but they work for me. XX1 on the J9C with 36t in front should be a dream, really looking forward to the new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chomxxo View Post
    Got one. It just arrived at my team's shop. Can't wait!




    Thank you. A Lefty and 1x10 are two ways to cut weight significantly. I wouldn't use them if I didn't prefer to race them, but they work for me. XX1 on the J9C with 36t in front should be a dream, really looking forward to the new bike.

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    I love Lefty's too - my RDO uses an XLR Carbon
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    I ended up working out a deal on a RDO that they had built up for someone whom just backed out of the deal. They are tearing it down now and will build it up to my specs.

    I changed the Thompson gear over to Niner gear as I was able to work out a better deal since it was already on the bike.

    Stayed with the SID XX fork.

    I stuck with the Mavic Crossmax SLR's because at 1620 grams, they are not too heavy, should hold up to my 208 lbs and the white hubs will look good on the black and white bike. I will run Maxis IKONs as those are the tires I love.

    All in all, I think I walked out with a great bike that looks cool and shouldn't be too heavy. I am having to wait 1-2 weeks for the XX1 hub conversion to get here, otherwise, it would be ready tomorrow.


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    Awesome - love my van as well. Got to say the rear suspension is so nice on my back, but I do need to figure out the rp23 settings for racing, climbing etc.

    I don't know how you guys get such low weights- I went as light as I was prepared to go and are nowhere near some of these weights , he'll, like most I'm 20lbs heavier than an elite racer, so 2 pounds on the bike is moot

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharmaboy View Post
    Awesome - love my van as well. Got to say the rear suspension is so nice on my back, but I do need to figure out the rp23 settings for racing, climbing etc.

    I don't know how you guys get such low weights- I went as light as I was prepared to go and are nowhere near some of these weights , he'll, like most I'm 20lbs heavier than an elite racer, so 2 pounds on the bike is moot
    I have only ridden a 29'er once and it was a 30 lb SB95. The shop says it will be a night and day difference from my ASR5C. I can't wait to try it.

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    You can get the XX1 to work ok with a 10 speed cassette to get you out riding now.

    I sometimes use 1 of my 10 speed wheels on my XX1 bikes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey44 View Post
    I ended up working out a deal on a RDO that they had built up for someone whom just backed out of the deal. They are tearing it down now and will build it up to my specs.

    I changed the Thompson gear over to Niner gear as I was able to work out a better deal since it was already on the bike.

    Stayed with the SID XX fork.

    I stuck with the Mavic Crossmax SLR's because at 1620 grams, they are not too heavy, should hold up to my 208 lbs and the white hubs will look good on the black and white bike. I will run Maxis IKONs as those are the tires I love.

    All in all, I think I walked out with a great bike that looks cool and shouldn't be too heavy. I am having to wait 1-2 weeks for the XX1 hub conversion to get here, otherwise, it would be ready tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey44 View Post
    I have only ridden a 29'er once and it was a 30 lb SB95. The shop says it will be a night and day difference from my ASR5C. I can't wait to try it.
    The Jet9 RDO will change the way you look a MTB for ever, You will no longer accept that a bike that climbs super fast is limiting on the downs
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    I can wait, I want some "good bye" rides on my Yeti anyway.They actually offered me a set of wheels to use for now but the shop is 1.5 hours away and I'd rather just wait until it's done to get it.
    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    You can get the XX1 to work ok with a 10 speed cassette to get you out riding now.

    I sometimes use 1 of my 10 speed wheels on my XX1 bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    The Jet9 RDO will change the way you look a MTB for ever, You will no longer accept that a bike that climbs super fast is limiting on the downs
    Not sure which is more sensational, these types of comments (Muzz and others), or the closeout pricing on v1.1's, but both put me over the wall without a test drive or prior 29 in the stable. Thanks all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosehead View Post
    Not sure which is more sensational, these types of comments (Muzz and others), or the closeout pricing on v1.1's, but both put me over the wall without a test drive or prior 29 in the stable. Thanks all.
    Me too brother...me too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey44 View Post
    I can wait, I want some "good bye" rides on my Yeti anyway.They actually offered me a set of wheels to use for now but the shop is 1.5 hours away and I'd rather just wait until it's done to get it.
    Are you going to run the Nobby Nic's they have on the prior build? I'm a big Schwalbe fan, and have a set of Racing Ralph's, and Nobby Nic's just as I did when I rode 26" wheels.
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    Jet 9 RDO or Jet 9 Carbon

    Quote Originally Posted by pharmaboy View Post
    Awesome - love my van as well. Got to say the rear suspension is so nice on my back, but I do need to figure out the rp23 settings for racing, climbing etc.

    I don't know how you guys get such low weights- I went as light as I was prepared to go and are nowhere near some of these weights , he'll, like most I'm 20lbs heavier than an elite racer, so 2 pounds on the bike is moot

    It all adds up, 100 grams here, an Oreo cookie there... ;-)

    I just look at some of the gear the World Cup guys race and try to model after that. They cut weight everywhere but its got to be durable too. Other than some of the ultra-slick tires like 1.9 Renegades. I'm not ready for that.

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    Welcome to the club! You've just entered a whole new world of mountain bike riding. I think you'll be glad you went with the RDO over the jet 9 carbon. I believe the rear shock is different on the 2 bikes as well. Great build. Enjoy and post pics and comments after your first ride. BTW, we already know its FAST
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    Quote Originally Posted by HouseNotes View Post
    Welcome to the club! You've just entered a whole new world of mountain bike riding. I think you'll be glad you went with the RDO over the jet 9 carbon. I believe the rear shock is different on the 2 bikes as well. Great build. Enjoy and post pics and comments after your first ride. BTW, we already know its FAST
    Thanks man!

    The wait is already driving me crazy and it's only been like 16 hours...

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    I'm not sure how accurate my shop's scales are but they just called and said my build weighed in at 22 lbs and some change without pedals, the XX1 freehub conversion and no Stan's in the tires. If that is the case, I am happy as a Lark...whatever that means...

    Wouldn't you know it. I took the ASR5C on one of it's final rides under me today and I set a new personal record on it. I love that bike...remind me why I bought a new one???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey44 View Post
    I'm not sure how accurate my shop's scales are but they just called and said my build weighed in at 22 lbs and some change without pedals, the XX1 freehub conversion and no Stan's in the tires. If that is the case, I am happy as a Lark...whatever that means...

    Wouldn't you know it. I took the ASR5C on one of it's final rides under me today and I set a new personal record on it. I love that bike...remind me why I bought a new one???????
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    What is it with weighing bikes sans pedals?

    Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I use pedals on my bikes and I put stans in the tyres as well. Anyway my rdo came in at 21lbs not including seat and post , at least it's still rideable

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharmaboy View Post
    What is it with weighing bikes sans pedals?

    Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I use pedals on my bikes and I put stans in the tyres as well. Anyway my rdo came in at 21lbs not including seat and post , at least it's still rideable
    Haha, I think it is so you can factor the pedals you are going to use. No idea why they hadn't sealed the tires yet. Perhaps OP is supplying the pedals.

    I always weigh my bike as I'm going to ride them. (Minus garmin, but wit the garmin mount).
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    Jet 9 RDO or Jet 9 Carbon

    I do too, and with a bottle cage, ready to ride. No sense in fooling yourself, the World Cup racers' bikes are weighed in full race trim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharmaboy View Post
    What is it with weighing bikes sans pedals?

    Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I use pedals on my bikes and I put stans in the tyres as well. Anyway my rdo came in at 21lbs not including seat and post , at least it's still rideable
    Because my pedals are on my Yeti, at my house and my RDO is in the shop...

    No Stan's because the tires are not mounted yet, they just slung them over the handle bars so they could weigh the thing and tell me...

    I could tear your leg off and you could lose some more weight...lol...

    Oh crap...according to your forum name...I bet we do about the same thing for a living...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey44 View Post
    ...remind me why I bought a new one???????
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    Quote Originally Posted by moosehead View Post
    Shock and Awe

    Always good to bring a gun to a knifefight
    Man, you guys have me dying to try this thing. Is it really that much better?

    I am as excited as a little kid at Christmas time. It will be cool until my wife sees it and then kills me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey44 View Post
    Man, you guys have me dying to try this thing. Is it really that much better?

    I am as excited as a little kid at Christmas time. It will be cool until my wife sees it and then kills me.
    Yep they are, I couldn't leave it in the shop for 2 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey44 View Post
    Man, you guys have me dying to try this thing. Is it really that much better?

    I am as excited as a little kid at Christmas time. It will be cool until my wife sees it and then kills me.
    At the end of the day, bikes are just fun. So don't go expecting the trails to be all new and magical. The fun trails will still be fun. But you can't say you weren't warned when you can't stop the silly grin riding the RDO.

    EDIT: When I bought mine, I bought my wife an EMD as her first 29'er also (wanted to get her an RDO too, but she would have shot me for real), I built both of the bikes up on the sly in the basement workshop. On reveal day my wife chose passive aggressive death for me. ... but the first day she rode it, she loved the big wheels, and chose to forget about me acquiring yet another bike. :P
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    Well...I am still alive...

    The conversation with my wife went pretty good.

    Me: I really want to get a Niner

    Her: No way, we have discussed this and you will not get a new bike until the pool is paid off

    Me: Oh yeah, I almost forgot that I bought you a pool

    Her: Stop it, it's our pool

    Me: You know a new bike will show up at our house so let's just work out a compromise

    Her: Some day, I may just not come home

    Me: Bartender, I need another whisky

    Her: and another Martini

    Her: What kind of compromise

    Me: You are only responsible for one household bill, the electric bill. I will take over that if you will sign a contract right here and now that states that I can get a new bike, of my choice and you can't ask me how much it was or hassle me in anyway about it.

    Her: so you take over the $350 electric bill starting May 1st?

    Me: Yes

    Her: write it up on the back of the drink menu.

    Done....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chomxxo View Post
    It all adds up, 100 grams here, an Oreo cookie there... ;-)

    I just look at some of the gear the World Cup guys race and try to model after that. They cut weight everywhere but its got to be durable too. Other than some of the ultra-slick tires like 1.9 Renegades. I'm not ready for that.
    I wouldn't be so fast to discredit the Renegades. They come in three sizes for the 29"er. 1.8", 1.95", and 2.3". And of course, the thinner S-Works versions or the slightly thicker and slightly heavier Control version. The tread is and performs very similar to the popular Ikon and the Continental Race King. Very nice choice for a rear tire - IMO. Don't forget the CVA suspension does an excellent job of keeping the 29"er wheels glued to the trail. I'd argue for the JET and RIP actually allowing us to get by with minimal tread compared to other bikes.

    I put the 2.3" on the rear of my RIP 9 last weekend as the drought is over for the moment here in the Midwest and we are riding "hero dirt", so no need of Nobby Nics or anything dedicated to handle dry and loose.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7166535@N05/8672802338/" title="RenegadeRIPTread by BBcamerata, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8391/8672802338_90c3d12d21_z.jpg" width="640" height="477" alt="RenegadeRIPTread"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7166535@N05/8671710245/" title="RenegadeRIPRear by BBcamerata, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8523/8671710245_abecd935bd_z.jpg" width="333" height="640" alt="RenegadeRIPRear"></a>

    So far this week, I have been really pleased with the volume, traction, cornering, braking and rolling resistance of the 2.3 Control version of the Renegade (620g spot on). I could see running the 1.95 in the rear of a JET with no issues. Then again, I've raced the Aspen, Raven, Crow, Ikon, Race King, etc... in the rear with no issues over the years.

    Note: For the meantime, I left the big Nobby Nic 2.35 up front to carve through what the trail throws at me, but the combo feels great.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/7166535@N05/8671710371/" title="XCRIP9Tires by BBcamerata, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8261/8671710371_1869c844c7_z.jpg" width="640" height="403" alt="XCRIP9Tires"></a>

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    I like riding and training on slicks, I run Ravens for that. But a 2.3 Renegade is a different animal than the 1.9 or 1.8. Those make for quite a harsh, picky ride. I'm not saying they don't have their uses, because obviously they do at the highest level of competition. But staying on top of such a tiny tire during a race is not something I want to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chomxxo View Post
    I like riding and training on slicks, I run Ravens for that. But a 2.3 Renegade is a different animal than the 1.9 or 1.8. Those make for quite a harsh, picky ride. I'm not saying they don't have their uses, because obviously they do at the highest level of competition. But staying on top of such a tiny tire during a race is not something I want to do.
    Understood, but I wouldn't call the Renegade a "slick". The 1.95's have the same tread as the 2.3 (haven't seen a 1.8 in the flesh). Knob height is very similar to that of the Ikon for the center tread. A bit shorter on the side lugs. Now a Raven - that's getting close to a "slick". Anyway, the Renegade is a pretty popular race tire here in the Midwest.

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    I'm not sure you got a good deal.

    The way I see it, It was HER Husband that brought the bike.

    Not you wife, So it is her that doesn't have her partner under control.

    Were as Your wife hasn't spent big money on a bike , So you have got her all sorted.

    So it is you wife that should be making it up to you.

    Mabe she could buy you some carbon wheels.

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    Well...I am still alive...

    The conversation with my wife went pretty good.

    Me: I really want to get a Niner

    Her: No way, we have discussed this and you will not get a new bike until the pool is paid off

    Me: Oh yeah, I almost forgot that I bought you a pool

    Her: Stop it, it's our pool

    Me: You know a new bike will show up at our house so let's just work out a compromise

    Her: Some day, I may just not come home

    Me: Bartender, I need another whisky

    Her: and another Martini

    Her: What kind of compromise

    Me: You are only responsible for one household bill, the electric bill. I will take over that if you will sign a contract right here and now that states that I can get a new bike, of my choice and you can't ask me how much it was or hassle me in anyway about it.

    Her: so you take over the $350 electric bill starting May 1st?

    Me: Yes

    Her: write it up on the back of the drink menu.

    Done....
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    I like it.

    Unfortunately she has a Yeti ASR5 too plus a nice road bike and I have a feeling, she will be hitting me up for a new road bike this year. She already asked why my road and mountain bike are carbon and her's are aluminum...

    I'm not sure what my RDO cost but I guess after you add the $350/mo onto it and assuming I keep it for five years, we are looking at $21,000 plus whatever it cost me upfront. Man...that was a horrible negotiation...

    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    I'm not sure you got a good deal.

    The way I see it, It was HER Husband that brought the bike.

    Not you wife, So it is her that doesn't have her partner under control.

    Were as Your wife hasn't spent big money on a bike , So you have got her all sorted.

    So it is you wife that should be making it up to you.

    Mabe she could buy you some carbon wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    Yep they are, I couldn't leave it in the shop for 2 weeks.
    Looks like I get to pick it up Thursday or Friday. My ASR5 sold so I am without a bike this week unless you count that thing with the skinny tires that cars try to run over.

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    Well, I picked her up today for our first date. I decided that instead of making her try to set a PR, I would spend some time getting to know her and discover her likes and dislikes and what turns her on and what shuts her down.

    She may like long walks through the park and the feeling of a cool breeze or she may just like to be held and cuddled. On the other hand; she may like it rough and just blast through gardens, or maybe sheís just a biotch and likes to be beat on.

    I took it slow and easy for about 3 miles and all my fears of a 29íer vanished quickly.

    Tight switchbacks: no problem.

    Tight high speed corners: took them faster than I ever have.

    Small jumps: felt long and awkward on the first 2 or 3 and then felt completely normal.

    Short, technical climbs: Took them like a scalded ape.

    Long climbs: NA, I live in North Texas

    Downhills: I still live in Texas but on the downhillís we have, I have never felt so fast and in control.

    Rock gardens, roots, logs and ruts: I thought someone removed them as I didnít seem to really notice them anymore. This is where I always thought that a 29íer would shine and the only place I thought it would shine. Boy have I changed my mind on that.

    The CVA suspension had the best feel to it of any bike I have ridden. All and all, the bike just seemed so balanced and perfect. The XX1 was dead quite and shifted so smoothly. It didn't even seem like there was a chain on it.
    The SID fork also did a good job although I set the pressures wrong and bottomed out several times. I forgot my number one rule, of bringing the shock pump with me, on my first ride.

    I absolutely loved the SLR wheels, they seemed very stiff and spun easily and made about the right amount of noise to my ears.

    Now the one thing that my LBS and I argued over was the brakes. I have always loved Shimano and wanted XTRs. He wanted me to try Magura. He finally talked me into the MT6, with the understanding that he would switch them out to XTRs, if they didnít work for me. To my surprise, when I picked up the bike, it had MT8ís on it with no upcharge

    With time running low and me eager to hit the trail I didn't do a bed-in procedure and just started riding. I was cursing these darn brakes for the first 4 miles. They were squealing like a pig, had no power and I was blowing through corners. At mile 5, they became my favorite brakes and were silent with good stopping power and great modulation.

    I couldn't be happier with the purchase of this bike. It really did have me smiling from ear to ear the whole ride. It turns out that she likes to be beat on and when I downloaded my Garmin, I had just set a new personal record, on a 12 mile loop, by a little over 4 minutes.

    Oh and the final weight loaded up was 23.46 lbs.











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    ^wow, that is hawt, nicely done

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    Yep, I told you that you would be surprised how fast they are.
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    And you were so correct....

    Thanks for everyone's help!!!

    What are you using, if anything, to cover the space where the front derail goes?

    How about the hole in the headbadge?
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    Yep, I told you that you would be surprised how fast they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey44 View Post
    And you were so correct....

    Thanks for everyone's help!!!

    What are you using, if anything, to cover the space where the front derail goes?

    How about the hole in the headbadge?
    Loved your first ride report. Great way to jump in to ridding big wheels.

    Going back to your first post though, that is a 2012 RDO not a 2013 RDO correct. Looks identical to mine, and I don't see a maxel. So I may have missed something in the thread, I hope it wasn't $600 more than having chosen the Jet Carbon option because as far as I can tell the new Jet Carbon is a 2012 RDO.

    I find XX1 bikes look so strange, and unbalanced without the front derailure and left shifter. Funny considering I always ride Lefty's and don't find them odd looking at all.

    As to your comments on the shock pump, just bring it along next time, I always find some trail side tweaking helps find the sweet spot as you point out.

    Enjoy a sweet ride.
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    Yes, Niner was out of 2013 frames and my dealer had this 2012 built up as a XT bike. I purchased the 2012 frame which was heavily discounted and had it built to my specs.

    I have always ran 1x10 so it doesn't look strange to me, just clean and simple. I do have a fork lock-out on the left side if that makes you feel better, that looks strange to me...lol...

    Quote Originally Posted by NS2000X View Post
    Loved your first ride report. Great way to jump in to ridding big wheels.

    Going back to your first post though, that is a 2012 RDO not a 2013 RDO correct. Looks identical to mine, and I don't see a maxel. So I may have missed something in the thread, I hope it wasn't $600 more than having chosen the Jet Carbon option because as far as I can tell the new Jet Carbon is a 2012 RDO.

    I find XX1 bikes look so strange, and unbalanced without the front derailure and left shifter. Funny considering I always ride Lefty's and don't find them odd looking at all.

    As to your comments on the shock pump, just bring it along next time, I always find some trail side tweaking helps find the sweet spot as you point out.

    Enjoy a sweet ride.

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    Nice ride! Put a cut to fit piece of electrical or protective tape over the direct mount holes, and stick a rubber cable grommet in the head badge hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey44 View Post
    I ended up working out a deal on a RDO that they had built up for someone whom just backed out of the deal. They are tearing it down now and will build it up to my specs.
    Glad that worked out for you. I'm going through the same thing wondering which to buy. The differences are described here
    http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/08/23/...-jet-9-carbon/

    The rear shock on the RDO has some trail adjustability but I would probably never use it.
    My other bikes are 135 so it actually makes sense to stick with the Carbon so I can switch wheels. I'm sure the maxle is better though.
    Rockers are carbon on the RDO but don't think there is any benefit to me.
    I'm sure it costs Niner more to do the two tone Green and Black but I like the solid black and there is no price break for that.


    If the Carbon was in solid black this would be an easy decision. Sounds like the Carbon gets the rear shifter cabling improvements too. It's still not cheap but looking around it is a pretty good deal. I'm not a fan of the moondust but maybe Tamale?? Sure wish there was a black carbon.

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