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    2010 RIP 9 Geometry based on 100mm fork?



    Hey all,
    So I was reading the "RIP 9 Geometry Tech" PDF file on the Niner site, and its states

    "In addition, the head tube angle on the full suspension bike is based on a 100mm travel fork, not an 80mm travel fork as on the hardtails"

    Is that current? Or just 1st Gen RIP literature that ended up in the new lit?

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    Uhh the RIP9 was measured with a Fox 120mm fork. If you used a 100 or 80 your head angle would be almost vertical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FalloutMan
    Uhh the RIP9 was measured with a Fox 120mm fork. If you used a 100 or 80 your head angle would be almost vertical.
    Hi 20mm = approx 1 deg

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalloutMan
    Uhh the RIP9 was measured with a Fox 120mm fork. If you used a 100 or 80 your head angle would be almost vertical.
    Uhhh did you read my post? The Niner literature on thier website says it's measured with a 100mm fork. Go play with your crayons and leave this conversation to the adults.

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    But would that help since your reading comprehension doesn't seem to be the best? I'm no niner fan, but I will say that they've had it up that the frame is now designed around a 120mm fork for the longest while Don't try to belittle others when you yourself aren't the sharpest crayon in the box.

    The all new, redesigned R.I.P. 9 for 2009: same travel, same weight, drastically increased stiffness. Our CVA™ suspension technology still gives the rear wheel 4.5” of smooth, efficient, active suspension travel while the geometry has been tweaked to utilize the latest 120mm travel forks – giving the R.I.P. 9 that perfect all-mountain balance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Chocula


    Hey all,
    So I was reading the "RIP 9 Geometry Tech" PDF file on the Niner site, and its states

    "In addition, the head tube angle on the full suspension bike is based on a 100mm travel fork, not an 80mm travel fork as on the hardtails"

    Is that current? Or just 1st Gen RIP literature that ended up in the new lit?
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    Idiot, you didn't read my post either. The "Niner Geometry Tech" PDF on the RIP 9 page states its optimized for 120mm, but designed around on a 100mm. Who has the reading comprehension problem now, you f@cking tool? Go troll around the 29er forum. I'm once again reminded of why I don't post anything on this site.

    Two paragraphs down from what you qouted:

    You can see by the geometry chart above that our head tube is still a steep 71.5 degrees. Once again, this
    is to account for the larger trail number (see trail chart) of the 29” wheel. The trail chart is showing the
    difference in trail between a 29” and 26” wheel at 71 degrees and a 29” and 26” wheel at 72 degress.
    The R.I.P. 9 is right in between at 71.5 degrees which offers a little more stability. In addition, the head
    tube angle on the full suspension bike is based on a 100mm travel fork
    , not an 80mm travel fork as on
    the hardtails. While we experimented with steeper head tube angles and shallower head tube angles,
    71.5 degrees seemed to be right on the money. Once the bike is set up correctly, with the proper sag in
    both the front and rear shocks, the R.I.P. 9’s 71.5 degree head tube angle offered more stability at high
    speeds while not adversely affecting the cornering ability in either high or low speed situations. The R.I.P.
    9 still rails the corners and switchbacks with ease.

    http://www.ninerbikes.com/downloadfl...ometryTech.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    But would that help since your reading comprehension doesn't seem to be the best? I'm no niner fan, but I will say that they've had it up that the frame is now designed around a 120mm fork for the longest while Don't try to belittle others when you yourself aren't the sharpest crayon in the box.

    The all new, redesigned R.I.P. 9 for 2009: same travel, same weight, drastically increased stiffness. Our CVA™ suspension technology still gives the rear wheel 4.5” of smooth, efficient, active suspension travel while the geometry has been tweaked to utilize the latest 120mm travel forks – giving the R.I.P. 9 that perfect all-mountain balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Chocula
    Idiot, you didn't read my post either. The "Niner Geometry Tech" PDF on the RIP 9 page states its optimized for 120mm, but designed around on a 100mm. Who has the reading comprehension problem now, you f@cking tool? Go troll around the 29er forum. I'm once again reminded of why I don't post anything on this site.

    Two paragraphs down from what you qouted:

    You can see by the geometry chart above that our head tube is still a steep 71.5 degrees. Once again, this
    is to account for the larger trail number (see trail chart) of the 29 wheel. The trail chart is showing the
    difference in trail between a 29 and 26 wheel at 71 degrees and a 29 and 26 wheel at 72 degress.
    The R.I.P. 9 is right in between at 71.5 degrees which offers a little more stability. In addition, the head
    tube angle on the full suspension bike is based on a 100mm travel fork
    , not an 80mm travel fork as on
    the hardtails. While we experimented with steeper head tube angles and shallower head tube angles,
    71.5 degrees seemed to be right on the money. Once the bike is set up correctly, with the proper sag in
    both the front and rear shocks, the R.I.P. 9s 71.5 degree head tube angle offered more stability at high
    speeds while not adversely affecting the cornering ability in either high or low speed situations. The R.I.P.
    9 still rails the corners and switchbacks with ease.

    http://www.ninerbikes.com/downloadfl...ometryTech.pdf
    So if you were as smart as you think you are why did you even bother to post if you didn't want any input ????

    The OEM fork travel was 100mm for the early Rip9,& the OEM fork travel for the new Rip9 is 120mm not that you know or care.

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    All measurements based on a FOX 120mm travel fork with 44mm rake offset
    30.9mm seat post, 350mm length recommended
    73mm bottom bracket shell
    Head tube length includes head set cups (internal headset, comes with frame)
    34.9 front derailleur clamp, bottom pull, high mount (bottom swing)*
    34.9mm seat clamp diameter
    135mm rear spacing available in QR or Maxle dropout versions.

    *see here for a complete list of approved derailleurs


    SMALL (IN/MM) MEDIUM (IN/MM) LARGE (IN/MM) X-LARGE (IN/MM)
    (A) EFFECTIVE TOP TUBE LENGTH
    23.1/587 23.75/603 24.5/622 25.25/641
    (B) SEAT TUBE LENGTH
    16/406 18/457 20/508 22/559
    (C) CHAIN STAY LENGTH
    17.9/455 17.9/455 17.9/455 17.9/455
    (D) FRONT CENTER
    25.5/649 26.2/666 27.2/691 28/711
    (E) WHEELBASE
    43.4/1102 44.1/1119 45/1144 45.8/1164
    (F) BB DROP
    1.1/29 1.1/29 1.1/29 1.1/29
    (G) HEAD TUBE LENGTH
    4.5/115 4.7/120 5.1/130 5.7/145
    (H) SEAT TUBE ANGLE
    73.5 73.5 74 74
    (I) HEAD TUBE ANGLE
    71.5 71.5 71.5 71.5

    STAND-OVER HEIGHT
    28/712 29.4/748 30.8/783 32.4/822
    HEIGHT RECOMMENDATION
    5'3"-5'9"/ 1.6-1.75m 5'8"-6'/ 1.73-1.83m 5'11"-6'3"/ 1.8-1.91m 6'3"-6'7"/ 1.91-2.01m

    since you are being such a crybaby about this why dont you email Niner themselves instead of asking a forum full of people that dont work there.
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    Ignore the a$$ Can't believe I actually even replied to him. Another hits the ignore button
    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic
    So if you were as smart as you think you are why did you even bother to post if you didn't want any input ????

    The OEM fork travel was 100mm for the early Rip9,& the OEM fork travel for the new Rip9 is 120mm not that you know or care.
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    Someone hasn't gone potty in a few days.

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