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    Wheels for Pinion AC

    I'll be building up my Pinion AC in the new year and thinking about wheelset.

    Bike is going to be Titan Ano, with Red Extra Love and White decals. White Bomber 44 RC3Ti fork.

    I had been planning to get a singlespeed hub for the rear for a weight saving and less dished wheel but there don't seem to be any available in 12mm and both the DT 240 and Hope SS hubs are actually heavier than the cassette hubs so even if they were available it doesn't seem to make sense.

    So -
    - Stans Arch EX in white on Red Hope hubs, Black DT Rev Spokes. sub 400. About 1780g
    - DT Swiss 240 hubs. Save about 50g but the rrp is 450 for the hubs alone.
    - Mavic Crossmax SX c600. I've always been wary of the repair hassles of system wheels but these do look pretty trick.

    Any thoughts or other suggestions?
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    at the moment i have DT Swiss M1700 Tricon "silver rims" 12mm axle (Rear) 15mm axle (Front) and looking also for a SSP hub 135x12mm
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    get in gear

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    BOR,Make some nice wheelsets

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    If weight is primary concern, DT's.
    If quality is a primary concern, CK's.
    If price is a concern, Hope.

    I have found happiness in my Hadley hubs, but they're heavy, "old tech" and not that bling anymore. They do work like clockwork, roll impressively fast and are not as expensive as others on this side of the pond.

    Arch EX are my next set of hoops.


    On another topic... I have found that 530mm A2C is the minimum I'd run on a fork on my AC. I'm curious to see what others think. It feels like the AC begs for a slightly longer fork and the new crop of 34mm forks is the perfect match.
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    and if noise is a concern? All listed hubs are too loud!
    get in gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutshlander View Post
    and if noise is a concern? All listed hubs are too loud!
    Just keep pedaling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    Just keep pedaling.
    ha its difficult for me to keep pedaling DHill over 35Km/h
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutshlander View Post
    ha its difficult for me to keep pedaling DHill over 35Km/h
    You need a larger chainring, not quieter hubs.

    Just kidding. but there is some truth about it. More engagement points mean basically more metal-to-metal contact and most of times, more noise. The fact most things MTB today are hollow with oversized thin walls doesn't help.

    There are alternatives, though....

    Stealth MTB Rear Hub | True Precision Components

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp View Post
    On another topic... I have found that 530mm A2C is the minimum I'd run on a fork on my AC. I'm curious to see what others think. It feels like the AC begs for a slightly longer fork and the new crop of 34mm forks is the perfect match.
    Is that on a new spec 2013 AC? What''s the negative impact of a shorter fork - head angle or BB height (and how much shorter are you comparing to)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolai-uk View Post
    Is that on a new spec 2013 AC? What''s the negative impact of a shorter fork - head angle or BB height (and how much shorter are you comparing to)
    No, sorry to cause confusion. Mine is an old 2010.

    Geometry changes very little. Just a tad steeper, but it feels a little nose heavy, if you know what I mean.

    I have used a Pike (520mm A2C), a Revelation (530mm A2C) and a Nixon (545mm A2C)

    The one I like the most was the Nixon, though the Revelation makes an awesome trail slayer.
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    Simon,

    Sure i have seen a picture of some Pinion Hubs..
    Were single speed rear.
    Looked nice,but cant remember where the picture was.

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    Simon sounds exciting. Have a look at the new rims coming in from Liteville. They look very interesting; super wide stance gives great tyre profile and strength and they're really isn't. Not sure if there is a draw back as it seems to good to be true.

    If you want a recommendation for a seriously good local builder then have a look Strada based down in Worthing.

    The hub apparently contributes a lot to the strength of the wheel. Not something I had understood before (still don't now) but it has to do with the flanges. Chris King build the strongest wheels apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam View Post
    Simon,

    Sure i have seen a picture of some Pinion Hubs..
    Were single speed rear.
    Looked nice,but cant remember where the picture was.
    Will have been on the Pinion site. Match the standard blue/black/silver gearbox cover options.
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    If it's not a factory built wheel I'll probably build myself. Time consuming but rewarding.

    Will look out for the liteville hubs - do you have a link? My wheel damage tends to be dented rims from clumsy riding on lake district trails rather than anything more fundamental.

    Mavic looking most appealing at the moment though just for the whiteness..
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolai-uk View Post
    Mavic looking most appealing at the moment though just for the whiteness..
    Mmmmhhh.... good point.

    Only other high end manufacturer making white hubs is DT Swiss. Rims and spokes are not an issue with DT or Stans.

    Most other high end hubs manufacturers go with anodizing and white is not an option. Chris King's Pewter colour would be an awesome match to Titan Ano.

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