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    With the Cane Creek, it's the 5th year that I've been working on the Double Barrel, it's simply the most advanced shock on the planet with a range of adjustments that allow you to tune out any unwanted frequencies. The way it manages bump force is so efficient that you can give the rider the exact setting they are looking for. It's true that this shock takes a little getting used to as it works like no other, mainly there is very little pressure build up through its stroke. Also, making a static adjustment to compression or rebound and feeling that in the pit is not always possible, you have to test that adjustment on the track to evaluate it fully. It's the process you have to adopt with the DB, but the end result is well worth the effort.


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    as i said, the data i fed into Dave has paid dividends. He's basically 'fixed' my AM.

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    I have used Dave for servicing on Fox as well. Very good service, price and communication.

    Although I hear he can be a 'little' busy in summer months so often best to try and use them off season.

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    Nice guy Dave but but I had a couple of jobs which were badly rushed as he jetted off to another world cup so im not quite as thumbs up as you tlr - off season is deffo the time to have stendec do their thing.
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    did mine off-season and took his time and delivered promptly.

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    My 2nd gen CCDB was in Dave`s hands too few week ago. Asked full maintenance and some tuning for beginning stroke action and result was fine - he called me when getting shock and again just when shipping it back. Nice improvement, although testing has been quite soft (almost too cold outside...)

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    He serviced my Romic for me years ago,Fitted it rode off a kerb and it blew all the oil out,He did fix it FOC and refund my postage,

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    He serviced my Romic for me years ago,Fitted it rode off a kerb and it blew all the oil out,He did fix it FOC and refund my postage,

    LOL

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    They also repaired my CCDB,after it came into contact with a large flying rock.Damaged an Adjuster.Seemed ok when i spoke to them and a fast turn around.

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    I wonder what changed with Stendec. I used them when they started and experienced the worst service I ever had in the bike industry.
    Serviced a set of boxxers for me that simply did not work when I got them back.
    Sent them to TF tuned 1 ride later and found out he had rebuilt the fork without the glide ring. When I phoned him to complain Dave Garland accused me of telling a lie.

    A mate sent his marz shivers to him to for a service and got them back with the oil seals upside down so they leaked as soon as they compressed.

    Perhaps things have got better but I would never trust that ****er with any of my suspension.

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    blimey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I guess they read the magic book on customer service.... And that customers keep a business operating....

    Have heard more good news on them than bad...

    TLR - Can Stendec fix Pedal Strike????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    I guess they read the magic book on customer service.... And that customers keep a business operating....

    Have heard more good news on them than bad...

    TLR - Can Stendec fix Pedal Strike????
    Pedal strike less obvious now the initial shock stroke has been made more dynamic. However, a number of GS customers have backed up my pedal strike concerns. They run AM and FR.

    It's the reason I'll be shifting the frame on or side lining it soon.

    Shame that they are all long and low as like their build quality.

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    I've heard of one other complaint from a customer with an AM. However he did also say his shock is knackered so it could be due to that. He's also a very hard rider. I've got his frame here and at less than 1 year old you should see the state of it! Its been well used to say the least

    However, he's sticking with nicolai as he loves his frame. May be trading it in for an FR, (purely as I have one available that's pretty much unused, not because he's unhappy with the AM) The FR has a higher bb than the AM so if pedal strikes an issue on that it will be
    with any frame you buy!

    Was talking to another turner 6-pack riding acquaintance of yours the other day. While you claim the 6-pack had a high bb and never suffered pedal strike, he had a monster off on his due to pedal strike and broke his shoulder! Pedal strike is a fact of life in mountain biking. Sometimes it's benign, sometimes it hurts. Either adapt and ride round it as best you can or take up road biking!
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    Not going to get in a pissing match on pedal strike on a suspension thread of yours, but it is not something that comes up with Nicolai posts except from you... My AM29er has the odd pedal strike, but it is not something that bothers me, it is part of riding, I adapt pretty quick, there are benefits in handling having things low....

    Am shifting my Nucleon TFR & my Helius FR Just need to pack them up & ship them... The stable is going through some lean treatment.... The AM29er has sorted me for a FR replacement in the 29er form, so all tickety boo.....
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    I thought pedal strike was due to lack of skill,and bad set-up.

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    you lot make me laugh - why jump to the defense of nicolai or flame me for complaining about an inherent design flaw ?

    keep dreaming fan-boys - the frame is flawed, simple as.

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    no other bike i've ever owned [there's been many] have suffered so badly, so frequently and so annoyingly....

    but i have stayed with it, trying every incarnation to resolve the problem, resulting in the latest STENDEC tune....

    it's a shame really that it's taken so much time and effort to try and fix...

    please don't tell me it's not a problem as it's a complete PITA.

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    as for road biking, already got that covered for my commuting on the Tricross.

    as for the 6 pack never striking, of course it did , albeit less frequently and less annoyingly....

    even today at slower speeds in the pishing rain, the AM clunks and bashes it's way up tech ascents.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
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    even today at slower speeds in the pishing rain, the AM clunks and bashes it's way up tech ascents.....
    maybe try pushing? haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakeyakey
    maybe try pushing? haha

    yaaaawn.........it's biking, nae hiking.

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    Do you really think we'd all stick with nicolai if there was a fundemental flaw we were all aware of?

    Its obvious the AM doesnt suit you. I really think it's time you moved on to another brand. You'll be happier(maybe!)
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    i like the frame, just not the BB height....

    STENDEC tune has remedied it...

    and i have too many other bikes in the garage ..... although that Mojo HD is an itch that will get scratched soon....

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    The bb height is an integral part of the ride/handling. If you don't like that I fail to see how you can like the frame.

    Go buy a mojo. I don't think nicolai do a frame to suit you. Am old fr would but it'd be too heavy!
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    need a demo before any purchase........

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    Can i buy your AM.One thing though,You have to promise to never post on the Nicolai forum again.LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    Can i buy your AM.One thing though,You have to promise to never post on the Nicolai forum again.LOL
    Sam be careful i hear the pedals and cranks have a few scatches!!

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    oh no.... it'll be relegated but not sold.... i don't need the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    oh no.... it'll be relegated but not sold.... i don't need the money
    It had nothing to do with money

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    Never.............Don't worry, I'll still be here to "regulate"..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    Never.............Don't worry, I'll still be here to "irratate"..............

    Corrected that for you

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    whatever - it seems i'm getting to you, fan-boi..........LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    whatever - it seems i'm getting to you, fan-boi..........LOL


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    yeah, whatever.

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    They seem to have a 50/50 split at best rep wise

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    although that Mojo HD is an itch that will get scratched soon
    Nooooooooo!

    Seriously - I rode GT's AM back to back with my Mojo HD on Thursday night and in 140mm mode at least the BB is noticeably lower than the AM.

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    heihei - thanks...demo ride planned.......

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    Just be aware that the bike rides very differently between the 160mm set up and the 140mm. My pref is for 140mm rear and 160mm up front.

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    Yep, HeiHei is right. They are quite different between the two travel modes.

    HeiHei and I were out on a night ride last Thursday. His bike was set up for him and mine for me. The first time I'd rode his bike it was both set up in 160mm mode and we spent some time to set it up for my weight (HeiHei is about 20kg lighter than me).

    The odd thing is that I actually preferred the much softer set up that I experienced on Thursday. Some of that preference might also be due to the fact that the BOS Devile fork had way too much HSC on it when I rode it the first time and while the spring rate was correct, the HSC damping was so high it made the bike feel unsettled. Since then HeiHei has fettled the fork and got it working considerably better.

    In 140mm mode, with perhaps 50% sag (yes I know way too much, but not ridiculously so) the bike was so low to the ground that my feet were paddling the floor as I pedaled through corners.

    A few points on this. First is the ground was very tame, there were only a few sections that would really give you any insight into the suspension's performance, but we rode a couple of corners and the feeling was excellent.

    The bike cornered like it was on rails. It had sooooo much grip - that's why I was even able to pedal around them in the first place.

    The thing was like a cruise missile; it was unbelievably good.

    The carbon wheels helped a lot also man they are stiff!

    I won't be ditching the Nic as it's just too good (Hei Hei still loved it as well) but if I were starting again and had to buy one or the other, I would seriously have to think about it and on balance the Mojo might win out on the weight issue.

    TLR, I would ride it first as you say you're going to. You may well find that to get a really good set up you run it a little lower/softer than normal, which you may then find causes as much pedal strike as you get now.

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    geetee - ragley Ti.............

    Nice one fella - PM'd......

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    TF tuned are the official service center for cane creek shocks as of Monday.
    Stendec can carry on botching suspension parts for you if you want Im sure though.

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    has anyone tried these guys j-techsuspension.co.uk ? seems reasonable price and know what they're doing

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