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    Nicolai Helius ST - Setup Database

    Nicolai owners please post your setups.

    Potential owners view, compare, drool & gain insight etc!

    Nicolai Linky

    Also "no flames please" you can do that on other posts or create a new one if you need to vent, let this be an information data base to assist not to attack or hinder. We can hopefully build a great source of valuable information.

    Post pictures of your build also......

    Riding terrain conditions:

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc

    * Frame, Size, & Color:
    * Fork:
    * Shock, i2i, stroke
    * Brakes:
    * Cranks:
    * Shifters:
    * Front Derailleur:
    * Rear Derailleur:
    * Pedals:
    * Stem:
    * Handlebar:
    * Seatpost:
    * Saddle:
    * Bottom Bracket:
    * Cassette:
    * Chain:
    * Headset:
    * Grips:
    * Front Tire:
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:
    * Front Hub/Skewer:
    * Rear Tire:
    * Rear Rim:
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:
    * Cables:
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:
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    Not many helius st owners out there im guessing. Well, i'll start:

    * Riding style: Freeride, Dh

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Red/grey, size M
    * Fork: 888r 170mm
    * Shock: Swinger 6way, spv removed
    * Brakes: Hayes mag hd with db handles and goodridge hoses
    * Cranks: Truvativ holzfeller, polished
    * Shifters: Sram x7
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram x7
    * Pedals: Azonic Accelerator
    * Stem: Funn, integrated
    * Handlebar: Syncros Bulk 7075
    * Seatpost: SDG i-beam
    * Saddle: SDG I-fly
    * Bottom Bracket: RF evolve FR
    * Cassette: Ultegra
    * Chain: Sunrace
    * Headset: FSA pig dh pro
    * Grips: Odi / intense
    * Front Tire: Michelin dh16 2.5
    * Rear Tire: Michelin dh24 2.2
    * Inner tubes: Nokia Mtb
    * Complete wheelset: Bontrager Big earl
    * Chain guide: e13 SRS
    * Chainring: Blackspire 38p

    * Overall Weight: Came out quite heavy.. 19.6kg ~43 lbs

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    Looks hot laars_

    Great first post, first Helius ST...

    Keep the posts coming, some action shots will be great on this puppy... Enjoy...
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    Nice ride there Laars. Any more pics? Is it possible to run a front mech and triple chain rings on that baby?

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    Thanks guys!

    Haven't got more pictures yet. When I get the saddle on I will go out and take some more shots of it. And yes, it is possible to use a front mech.

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    The spalsh of colour on the rims looks real good, real tasteful and not overdone.

    We wait with anticipation for somemore pics
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    Been a slacker on this one. This frame is gone now, but here's how it was setup...

    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Nicolai owners please post your setups.

    Potential owners view, compare, drool & gain insight etc!

    Nicolai Linky

    Also "no flames please" you can do that on other posts or create a new one if you need to vent, let this be an information data base to assist not to attack or hinder. We can hopefully build a great source of valuable information.

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    Riding terrain conditions: GNAR!

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc
    5'8", 165 lbs, hucker/DH/AM

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Helius-ST, med, ano black
    * Fork: 66 SL, 170mm
    * Shock, i2i, stroke: CCDB, Ti spring, 8.75 x 2.75
    * Brakes: Hope Mono M4 180 FR, 170 RR
    * Cranks: Race Face Atlas
    * Chain Guide: Gamut P20
    * Shifters: X9
    * Front Derailleur: None
    * Rear Derailleur: X9
    * Pedals: Atom Lab Trail King
    * Stem: Thomson X4, 50 mm
    * Handlebar: Gravity Lite
    * Seatpost: SDG I-Beam
    * Saddle: SDG BelAire-SL
    * Bottom Bracket: Diabolous
    * Cassette: PG 980
    * Chain: PC 990
    * Headset: King Steelset
    * Grips: ODI Rogue Lock-on
    * Front Tire: Maxxis Minion 2.5 UST 42a
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: ex823/DT Competition
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Hadley 20mm
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Highroller 2.5 UST 42a
    * Rear Rim: ex823/DT Competition
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hadley 12mm x 135 mm
    * Cables: Jagwire
    * Misc: Setup in middle travel setting, approx 7.25"
    * Overall Weight:
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    I've got the older model helius st, it's a 2004 with the extremely steep seat tube, I'll have my pics and build list up in a few days. So far I'm very impressed with the st, it makes me want to do stuff that scares me.

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    Okay, finally got the bike finished and took it for a parking lot spin and took some photos, warning bike porn will follow

    After a few slight mods the final weight is at 19.6kg. The pics ripping it will have to wait until spring, because its snowing in here

    So here u go:












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    Oh yes laars, bike porn to the max! Great pics too, that first shot rocks, awesome stuff... Enjoy when the snow melts....
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    Lookin' good Laars! Makes me miss my ST.

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    I've got time to lay down what my build is but no photos as of yet as it is still being built with my new stuff on it.

    Marzocchi 888rc
    Manitou Swinger 6 way 9.0?/8.75?x2.75
    Truvativ Holzfeller cranks
    Blackspire chain guide
    Azonic dbl wall handlebar
    X-7 shifters
    X-7 RD LX FD
    Hayes nine 203mm
    Rhyno lite laced to Ringle's
    Kenda blue groove 2.5 in front
    Maxxis high roller 2.5 in back
    Thomson post
    WTB laser v saddle
    Crank bros mallet c's

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    Great to see more and more ST's coming out of the woodwork, great stuff
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    This just replaced my Helius FR













    Rider height : 6' 0"
    Weight : 80kg
    Ride style : ? Poor

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Helius ST red with ano black swing arm
    * Fork: Boxxer WC
    * Shock : Fox DHX 5.0
    * Brakes: Avid Juicy 7
    * Cranks: RF Atlas
    * Shifters: XTR
    * Front Derailleur: ?
    * Rear Derailleur: XTR
    * Pedals: AtomLab TrailKing
    * Stem: E.13 direct mount
    * Handlebar: Easton EA70
    * Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    * Saddle: Flite
    * Bottom Bracket: RF Diablous
    * Cassette: SRAM
    * Chain: SRAM
    * Headset: Chris King
    * Grips: ODI Lock Ons
    * Front Tire: Maxxis High Roller
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Stans FR / DT Swiss
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Hope BULB
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis High Roller
    * Rear Rim: Stans FR / DT Swiss
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope BULB 12mm bolt thru'
    * Cables: Gore
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: (haven't weighed it yet)

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    floki - She's a beauty! Oh, I miss my Helius-ST. The new geo looks money! Throw it on a scale when you get a chance, looks light.

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    Very nice bike ! And it must be really light with all those parts.
    I'm wondering how strong are the rims, I've never seen a bike with those ones !
    Never enough singletracks !

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    Floki - Sweet sweet looking ST, spanking bling build.

    2 Sweet Nicolai's posted up, great to see
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    Yeah I agree with the others, sweet build there buddy. I too would be interested in the weight.

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    Samwell - the rims should be fine, they survived a lot of messing about and this years MegAvalanche with no problems.

    Will did out some scales soon.

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    You are fueling my desire for yet another Nicolai project for next year Floki. The new ST does look the nuts. Will have to improve my riding before splashing yet more cash

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    Quote Originally Posted by floki
    Samwell - the rims should be fine, they survived a lot of messing about and this years MegAvalanche with no problems.

    Will did out some scales soon.

    If the rims resist a megavalanche, then they should be fine because the megavalanche is really hard for tyres and rims
    Never enough singletracks !

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    Did some updating on the nic.



    Weight is down to 42 lbs sharp.

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    Lookin' sweet!

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    looking good. I want one.

    Please more picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by laars_
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    Weight is down to 42 lbs sharp.

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    Finally got round to weighing the ST today ... 37.5 lbs.

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    Thats an awesome weight, how is it riding?

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    My new toy.. finally got my dream bike... Thanks to Matt of Euro bikes.. and to Err on the seatpost diameter... thanks guys.. not so much bling on the parts but it'll do for now..

    * Riding Style? Terrible

    * Rider height 5'11, weight 170lbs
    * Frame: Size M, Anodized Black
    * Fork: 06 Boxxer Race changed fork oil to spectro 7.5wt
    * Shock: Vivid 5.1, 8.75X2.75
    * Brakes: Avid Juicy 7
    * Cranks: Race Face DH 170mm
    * Chain Guide: MRP System 3
    * Shifters: Sram X9 Rear
    * Front Derailleur: N/A
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram X9 Short Cage
    * Pedals: Crank Bros. 5050
    * Stem: Sunline Rockshox Boxxer Direct Mount
    * Handlebar: Answer Protaper Riser Bar
    * Seatpost: FSA FR-270 30.0
    * Saddle: Specialized from old bike.
    * Bottom Bracket: Race Face Diabolus X-Type
    * Cassette: Sram PG990 9SP
    * Chain: Sram PC-991 9SP
    * Headset: FSA Orbit
    * Grips: OURY
    * Front Tire: Kenda Nevegal 2.5
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: RPM XXL SunRingle
    * Front Hub/Skewer: SunRingle
    * Rear Tire: Kenda Nevegal 2.35
    * Rear Rim: THE
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: THE 12X135
    * Overall Weight: 39lbs

    * Shoes: Five Ten Impact 2 Low (a must have) trust me on this!

    Nico 1.jpg

    Truly The ONE bike. now I'm a believer.. I can pedal this beast uphill with ease and rip the trail downhill with confidence.. sweetness!
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    Hey zero, that has to be one of the most stunning ST's I have ever seen, get that puppy dirty and let us know how it handles.

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    Hi Zero, that's a great looking steed! Just received my 08 ST frame size large which is in pale blue with red levers etc. and red decals to match. I am very happy with the look of it. Current injury means I will build it up sometime end of the year or early next year. I estimate it will weigh in at around 35lb. I will post pictures of the frame soon. How are you finding yours?

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    Sweet looking ST Zero, be keen to hear some more thoughts on how you are finding it....

    Hit us up with some more pictures, can never have to many pictures....

    Enjoy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lornibear
    Hey zero, that has to be one of the most stunning ST's I have ever seen, get that puppy dirty and let us know how it handles.
    Thanks lornibear.. I'll do my best to trash this beauty with my poor riding skills.. coming from an AM rig specialzed enduro I have alot to learn.. with a properly tuned suspension and a balanced rig learning should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryates
    Hi Zero, that's a great looking steed! Just received my 08 ST frame size large which is in pale blue with red levers etc. and red decals to match. I am very happy with the look of it. Current injury means I will build it up sometime end of the year or early next year. I estimate it will weigh in at around 35lb. I will post pictures of the frame soon. How are you finding yours?
    Thanks ryates, I wish I had the 08 with a slacker head angle.. but I had a good deal with this frame thanks Matt.. I've been looking and drooling at this frame for about a year and a half... finally my dream came true.. bike fully assembled reached 39lbs. I think its because of my crankset and fork. well I guess I just have to pedal more going up and getting used to the weight should do the trick.. I could slacken the head angle but my BB drops to 13' inches and i've been hitting all kinds of stuff on my local trail. one time I hit a big rock on the shell itself and it doesnt sound or feel good at all.. I know I know this baby is up for such abuse but not now.. maybe after a season then I'll try to loosen her up... wow I wish I could build her at or around 35lbs .. I'll try to get her to loose some weight maybe after a season.. lighter fork, crankset and saddle should loose a few lbs.. it doesnt feel that heavy though pedaling her up.. amazing..

    the ride with a slacker HA feels fast and stable gives a true meaning to the saying "just point and shoot" amazing stability.. I've been holding back on my ride because I have to tune my fork with the right Oil wt. . I'll let you know how she rides now with a lighter fork oil and a steeper HA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whafe
    Sweet looking ST Zero, be keen to hear some more thoughts on how you are finding it.... Hit us up with some more pictures, can never have to many pictures....
    Enjoy...
    Thanks whafe.. I've tried her on my local trail with the HA slackened and it felt good and fast but I've been hitting it hard on the BB shell of exposed rock and loose ones and I feel bad trashing her like that. theoretically the bash ring should take care of it right? I guess another case of user error.. so I had her on the 66 HA with BB of 14.. and this week I'll take her for a spin.. peddaling her up is a different story though.. bro this thing climbs just like my enduro even better.. I just wish I could put a front derailleur without loosing 8inch of travel so I can have little granny working for me when I need her. I guess I just have to muscle up and work with what I have.. I'll let you know how she rides with a steeper HA. should be interesting now with a plusher fork and that bottomless vivid..

    A good friend of mine with a DH rig shared me some words of wisdom.. that is to go fast and let the suspension work for you not the other way around.. I just changed my fork oil to a lighter wt. and she feels buttery smooth on a short run.. I'll see how she handles on a longer run this week..
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    Thoughts on the bike... spot on geometry.. really stable on rocky section it felt strong and just floats on everything... maybe my suspension is too plush.. though I noticed the bike feeling very light when going fast.. it doesnt feel 39 lbs at all.. to be honest.. my friends glory freeride is 2 lbs heavier than my bike but you could feel the weight of that bike even when you're going fast.. I don't know if its good or bad.. but one things for sure.. This bike will push your limits.. it thrives on fast rocky terrain.. very happy with my ride today.. cant wait to ride again next week..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero
    Thoughts on the bike... spot on geometry.. really stable on rocky section it felt strong and just floats on everything... maybe my suspension is too plush.. though I noticed the bike feeling very light when going fast.. it doesnt feel 39 lbs at all.. to be honest.. my friends glory freeride is 2 lbs heavier than my bike but you could feel the weight of that bike even when you're going fast.. I don't know if its good or bad.. but one things for sure.. This bike will push your limits.. it thrives on fast rocky terrain.. very happy with my ride today.. cant wait to ride again next week..
    Sweet to hear, you make some very pertinent points on allowing the suspension to do the work..... I often run more sag than some would think needed, precisely for that reason...

    Especially more so on a more DH orientated bike..... I always have in my mind that I want to bottom out the suspension on a ride, not constantly, but to let me know that I am using all the available travel....

    Hit us up with some pics, the ST is pure beast, so the team loves to see action shots....
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    Hello!

    I haven't been posting much.. I've been to busy updating my bike

    So I'll have a new post on the new setup ->

    * Frame: Size M, Red
    * Fork: 05 Boxxer World Cup with custom paint & stickers
    * Shock: Swinger 6way
    * Brakes: Avid Juicy 5
    * Cranks: Truvativ Holzfeller
    * Chain Guide: e13 LG 1
    * Shifters: Sram X9
    * Front Derailleur: N/A
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram X9 Short Cage
    * Pedals: DMR V12 Mag
    * Stem: Funn Boxxer Direct Mount
    * Handlebar: Salsa Promoto flat bar
    * Seatpost: SDG I-Beam
    * Saddle: SDG I-Fly xc
    * Bottom Bracket: Race Face Evolve FR
    * Cassette: Shimano Ultegra
    * Chain: Sram PC-89r
    * Headset: Chris King Steelset
    * Grips: Odi Intense
    * Front Tire: Maxxis High roller 2.5
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Mavic EX721
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro II
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis High roller 2.5
    * Rear Rim: Mavic EX721
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro II
    * Overall Weight: 39.5 lbs

    You can also see the new black levers, which I got straight from Nicolai
    And the pics off course -->





    With the new levers now I can run the bike with some more slacker angles and I'm totally lovin' the flat bars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryates
    Just received my 08 ST frame size large which is in pale blue with red levers etc. and red decals to match. I am very happy with the look of it.
    I REALLY want to see this frame...
    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo
    The internet sounds like a tough place to ride.

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    Hey Err: Did you have any clearance issues with your Helius and the 66 ?

    I just switched to a 66 and I also have a CK steelset and the crown is not clearing the frame..

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    What gorgeous machines! I think I've found my future frame...
    Do the shocks have to be mounted with the piggy back in the rear for clearance issues?

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    Hi coiler8, I hope not because mine was supplied with the piggy the other way round....not built yet....I think its more an aesthetic thing....may change it over.

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    Yeah, same sorta thing with my Bottlerocket -- it was sent with the piggy back backwards, but I switched it for the convenience of tuning and looks too. When is your build gonna be done, I can't seem to get enough of these bikes!

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    Lars loved the first picture of your ST - very moody and industrial. Very fitting for a Nicolai, you should sell the image to them for their catalogue!

    Floki that's a pretty sweet looking ride, very focused. I imagine it would be awesome down some of the tighter UK DH tracks.

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    Frame: Size M, Red
    * Fork: 08 Rock Shox Totem Solo Air
    * Shock: Fox DHX 3.0 with TI, 8.75X2.75
    * Brakes: Formula Oro24
    * Cranks: Race Face Deiabolus170mm
    * Chain Guide: E.13 SRS
    * Shifters: Shimano Deore
    * Front Derailleur: N/A
    * Rear Derailleur: Shimano Deore
    * Pedals: 24
    * Stem: Race Face Diabolus
    * Handlebar: Truvativ Holzfeller
    * Seatpost: Thomson Elite 30.0
    * Saddle: WTB Rocket
    * Bottom Bracket: Race Face Diabolus X-Type
    * Cassette: Shimano Deore
    * Chain: Shimano Deore
    * Headset: ONOFF Hamer
    * Grips: LizardSkin
    * Front Tire: Maxxis High Rollerl 2.5
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Larsen 2.35
    * Wheels Set: Azonic Outlow
    * Overall Weigh: hmmm...





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    Frame: Size M, Black
    * Fork: 06 Marzocchi 888
    * Shock: Fox DHX 5.0
    * Brakes: Avid Code. Until recently Hope M4.
    * Cranks: Race Face Diabolus170mm
    * Chain Guide: E.13 DRS
    * Shifters: SRAM X9 trigger rear. SRAM X9 Twist front.
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano Deore on a home made front derailleur tower, smaller diameter and shorter than standard, no clearance issues with rear tyre with full travel.
    * Rear Derailleur: SRAM X9
    * Pedals: Shimano
    * Stem: Sunline integrated
    * Handlebar: Easton
    * Saddle: Ritchey Race
    * Bottom Bracket: Race Face Diabolus X-Type
    * Cassette: SRAM
    * Headset: Pig
    * Grips: ODI Ruffians
    * Front Tire: Maxxis Minion 2.5
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis High ROller 2.5
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    Nice ride there, I would be interested in hearing more or even seeing the home made front mech tower there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lornibear
    Nice ride there, I would be interested in hearing more or even seeing the home made front mech tower there....
    Yeh, sorry, a bit of a brief post there yesterday, back at work and wasting time.
    The front mech mount was surprisingly easy after a little bit of lateral thinking. The genuine one is way long and the same diameter as the seat tube. I didn't think that it needed to be as long as it was (which it isn't), so I ended up using a piece of old seatpost I think it was. The mounting block is threaded at the same pitch thread as a star fangled nut (edit - actually this may not be correct, but it is a standard metric size, M8 maybe?) , so I used a long headset bolt and top cap to hold the shorty post in place.
    The front mech is a Shimano Deore because they have a pretty wide range of diameter options and fits on the narrower post easily.
    So at full travel with running a 2.5 Maxxis I still have a reasonable amount of clearance, never had any fouling issues, even in mud where I fit a little plastic guard to keep the crud off the derailleur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmorgs4
    Yeh, sorry, a bit of a brief post there yesterday, back at work and wasting time.
    The front mech mount was surprisingly easy after a little bit of lateral thinking. The genuine one is way long and the same diameter as the seat tube. I didn't think that it needed to be as long as it was (which it isn't), so I ended up using a piece of old seatpost I think it was. The mounting block is threaded at the same pitch thread as a star fangled nut (edit - actually this may not be correct, but it is a standard metric size, M8 maybe?) , so I used a long headset bolt and top cap to hold the shorty post in place.
    The front mech is a Shimano Deore because they have a pretty wide range of diameter options and fits on the narrower post easily.
    So at full travel with running a 2.5 Maxxis I still have a reasonable amount of clearance, never had any fouling issues, even in mud where I fit a little plastic guard to keep the crud off the derailleur.
    Interesting piece of machinary there my friend, just makes me wonder why Nicolai don't use a similar method on factory built STs? Why can't people have full travel and run a front mech? If they could do it, perhaps there would be many more STs rolling around the place. Food for thought perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lornibear
    Interesting piece of machinary there my friend, just makes me wonder why Nicolai don't use a similar method on factory built STs? Why can't people have full travel and run a front mech? If they could do it, perhaps there would be many more STs rolling around the place. Food for thought perhaps?
    The factory option is presumably fitted exactly the same, just that the tower is the same diameter as the seat tube and much longer than the stubby one I've fitted. I would presume that's so you could raise the front mech on the tower so as to have more adjustment options with bigger chain rings. I'm running a 36 or 38 depending on track and I have the front mech as low as possible. It seems as though the standard tower is too tall and fouls the tyre on full compression. Dunno why they don't trim it down, it's not as if a bigger chainring is very usable on the beast anyhow the majority of the time.

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    You can cut the standard tube to the length you want and therefore gain clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryates
    You can cut the standard tube to the length you want and therefore gain clearance.
    Probably very true, but the bike didn't come with one, so cutting down an old seatpost was a better option than ordering a piece of precision turned, anodised piece of German engineering!

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    This may sound like a daft question, but when you cut them down, do you get a bung to go in the end to stop **** getting in? and are the towers removable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lornibear
    This may sound like a daft question, but when you cut them down, do you get a bung to go in the end to stop **** getting in? and are the towers removable?
    Yep, they bolt on. Have a look at the very first picture in the ST thread and you can see the stump which has a threaded hole in it for the mounting bolt because Laas isn't running a front mech.

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    No bung provided....but it probably would be a good idea....some foam would do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laars_
    Hey Err: Did you have any clearance issues with your Helius and the 66 ?

    I just switched to a 66 and I also have a CK steelset and the crown is not clearing the frame..

    Just changed from a boxxer to a 66 rc3 and cleared the downtube with a chris King. I believe you can buy a 5mm or a 10mm crown race with a steelset to clear the down tube. I think a Single Crown works best for the Beast. my bike now feels faster and more stable than before. more active suspension and the geometry is purrrfect with a single Crown. it felt totally different.

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    Hi Zero

    Would be interested to know if you compared RC3 with the Totem? Do you think I will have clearance issues with the Totem using a FSA or Cane Creek 1.5 headset?

    Some pics would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryates
    Hi Zero

    Would be interested to know if you compared RC3 with the Totem? Do you think I will have clearance issues with the Totem using a FSA or Cane Creek 1.5 headset?

    Some pics would be nice.
    RC3 and Totem? before I was thinking if getting totem coil not the 2 step but the boxxer was really cheap "on tight budget" so I bought it! didn't have a chance to ride a totem but a friend of mine had 66 on their bikes reign X1 and Glory Freeride! I was really impressed with the way their forks perform buttery smooth, responsive to small bumps and can take big hits without feeling of bottoming out the fork and very stiff! so I decided to make some changes and glad I did! with a single crown I can ride my bike without looking like a killer DH bike on my local trail and get less attention from other riders with 6 or 7 inch travel bikes.

    From those many nights I've searched, one things for sure if you have a 1 1/8 frame a chris king steelset with a thicker crown race will definitely clear your down tube and for a 1.5 frame a chris king will still clear your downtube depending on how tall are you adjustment knobs on the fork. I'm not sure about the FSA pig or cane creek coz when I was in the store comparing those 3 headset I noticed that the crown race of CK is thicker than those two and both the FSA PIG and Cane Creek had a flushed crown race to the lower cups.

    Do some research before you hammer that headset on the beast. it is such a bummer if you dont clear the downtube with those headset you mentioned. I'll post some pics later next week.

    Lucky on the 08 frames bro! those are slacker than the 07's I'm pretty sure when you are done putting it together it will be a killer ride! good luck.

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    my buddy's 66 internals was converted to RC3 without the those tall adjustment knobs

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    barely cleared the downtube hope this helps for future Helius ST owners with the old 1.5 frame thinking of going single crown. I think the 08 frame with a slacker HA will have no clearance issue because of the slacker HA.

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    Hey Zero
    Looking good....have you weighed it yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryates
    Hey Zero
    Looking good....have you weighed it yet?
    its at 41 lbs right now the geometry feels right but I have to raise the BB and steepen the HA coz its too low at BB 13.3 we'll see how she feels after some tweaking!

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    Frame, Size, & Color: kawagrun
    size taillor : head angle 65,5, top tube 570mm, seat tube 420mm, bb height 340mm, Chain stay lenght 430mm...
    * Fork: bos engineering idylle pro
    * Shock: bos engineering s**toy
    * Brakes: magura louise bat carbon 8" sl rotor
    * Cranks: shimano xtr optimized
    * Shifters: sram x0
    * Rear Derailleur: sram x0
    * Pedals: twenty6 rally ti
    * Stem: Funn S-H with titanium
    * Handlebar: Funn fatboy 30mm
    * Seatpost: saso poc carbon titanium
    * Saddle: SDG fly
    * Cassette: shimano dura ace 9 speed 11x27
    * Chain: sram pc991 hollow pin
    * Headset: acros ah-07 signature serie
    * Grips: funn combat
    * Front Tire: schwalbe big betty 2.4
    * Rear Tire: Michelin dh24 2.2
    * Inner tubes: continental light
    * Complete wheelset: dt swiss 1750 n'duro
    * Chain guide: gamut p30
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    vinc 74, amazing bike.....interesting spec.

    Like to hear more about the ride and the BOS shock and forks and the twenty 6 pedals. Are the pedals the new larger ones? Like the colour combo.....can't quite make out the decal colour....are they silver?

    Building up an ST myself with Totems, CCDB, Saints, SRAM, Schwalbe etc.Probably will weigh just under 17kg.

    What part of France do you usually ride?

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    hi,
    the decal colour is chrome
    bos shox and ford is the best suspension that I could ride, the grip is enormous in all situation. the twenty6 rally is a little fragile but the finishing is very good ... for my next bike, i have ordered the chrome edition .
    (sorry for my very poor english )

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    great bike!

    chapeau!

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    hi vinc74, can't make out from photos what hole you are using.....what's your shock setting?

    How are your DT EX 1750's holding up.....I have some but they have gone out of shape very easily only doing XC? Now thinking I will need a tougher wheelset for the ST....probably Halo Freedoms, Azonic Outlaw rims or Mavic 823's? What do you think?

    Where's your riding, buddy?

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    I ride in the 200mm position, my show setting is n4
    the dt ex1750 is not the most solid wheel set, but they are very light.
    for a free ride and downhill usage, the mavic 823 or 721 is better . because with on 1750, it is necessary to ride very properly.
    I'm ride in French alpes, Les Gets, Morzine and Chatel

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    Hi vinc74, thanks for the feedback. I have one other question, please. How do the Magura BAT brakes compare with Saint's? I hear that the modulation of the BAT's is very nice, but are they powerfull enough? Just building up my Helius ST over the next few weeks and would like your advice on what is the better brake.
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    i haven't ride with the new saint's, but the magura is very mighty an tough. I'm not a lightweight rider

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    hey hey , salut Vinc' on te voit partt sur les posts Nicolai

    I've seen Vinc74 bike and it's an amazing rig !!! Too bad the pilot is not at the level of the bike , just kidding

    Have you thought about the new dee max on it ?

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    lol,
    the new dee max is for my next bike, I have found a world cup deemax ... the weight with paint is 1780gr for the pair.. in 150*12mm rear ..
    but my next bike will not also be funky . this helius st is the perfect geometri for me

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    Vinc74 - Kawa Green is the fastest colour, just so happens i'm waiting for my new FR in just that colour!

    Similar spec to your ST as in tailored 420 seat tube but 585 top tube and 66.5 deg HA.
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    yes it's the best colour

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    can you get the new DEEMAX in 135 x 12mm rear...can't tell from the website?

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    ya, it does existe, it's possible to pass the 10mm bolt to a through axle in 12mm, on a 135mm width

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    Just checked the price of the Deemax and I am wondering is it worth the price (500).....you could build an 823/hope pro 2 combo that would weigh around an esimated 2200g with db spokes, compared with 2160g for the standard Deemax, and you would save around 200.00? But perhaps it's cheaper in France?

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    nope, the deal is almost the same....
    The Dee Max is lighter on the rim, that makes it easier to pedal. The weight saving has much more sens when it's on a moving part such as the rim.

    The dilema of the Dee Max versus a build up on a 823 is a question of look and €€€.... and connexion with Mavic

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    New Helius St

    Here she is,

    Helius st 2009 geometry, small, black ano, double barrel, 73 mm bb shell, hammershmidt ready, 1.5 h tube

    Real frame weight with ccdb, steel spring, 1,5 head tube is 5.120 grams

    Wery intresting is the new cable passage under a plastic chainstay protector, functional and easy to change, keeps chain slap noise to minimum.

    BB height was set low, with open h angle, real bb height with totem and 200 rear travel option is 34.8 cm

    Bike was tested in Freeride Calssic in 2 alpes, everything seems so easy when compared to Orange frame with same components, think this is due to low bb compared to Orange 39 cm.

    Climbing is a nightmare, Orange seems a cc bike when compared
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    CS, another great looking ST. Please post the complete build. Where did you get those Totems?

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    Awesome ST bud congrats
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    Awesome ST bud congrats
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    Totems

    It is an home made Totem paintjob, easy on the lower legs, an awesome adventure for the union jack.
    Internals received some attentions too, mainly about very special lubrificants.

    Next step, should be a super smooth stanchions treatment for the season's end
    I live 2 km from Ferrari Reparto Corse and 25 from Ducati corse, so try to use their suppliers for something special
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    Thats an awesome paint job mate, did you do it yourself? Is that what you do for a job?
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    no it is not,
    it would be difficolut for me to earn money in that super competitive market,
    I'm a very modest amateur.
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    Very sweet looking ST CapS. Enjoy this bad a s s ST, post some action shots, will feed our stoke addiction....
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    Good job!



    * Frame, Size, & Color: HELIUS ST / LARGE / ANO PRONZE
    * Fork: MARZOCCHI 888 ATA WC
    * Shock, i2i, stroke: ROCK SHOX VIVID 5.1
    * Brakes: MAGURA LOUISE FR
    * Cranks: SHIMANO SLX
    * Guide: e13 LG1
    * Shifters: SHIMANO SAINT
    * Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO SLX
    * Pedals: SHIMANO DX
    * Stem: TRUVATIV HOLZFELLER
    * Handlebar: FUNN FATBOY 710mm
    * Seatpost: SDG i-Beam
    * Saddle: SDG FORMULA FX
    * Cassette: SHIMANO XT
    * Chain: SHIMANO HG
    * Headset: SYNCROS FR DEEP INSERT
    * Grips: LIZARD SKINS NORTH SHORE
    * Front Tire: NOKIAN NBX 2.5
    * Front Rim: SUN RINGLE EQUALIZER 31
    * Front Hub/Skewer: SHIMANO SAINT
    * Rear Tire: NOKIAN NBX 2.5
    * Rear Rim: SUN RINGLE EQUALIZER 31
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: SHIMANO SAINT

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    Hey fellow ST'ers. So how would i best tell if my '06 Helius ST is ano black or painted matt black??
    I was planning on stripping the frame to raw and/or paint in the future, but may reconsider this if its ano for obvious reasons.

    Couple of pics:






    ^^ anodized black or painted matt black?

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    Must be ano. Nice to see DB on this bike. Great looking bike...what are the forks?

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    I love the all black look. Nicely understated

    The scuff marks look similar to my black anodized FR so I assume it's not a painted frame.

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    Cheers for the comments.

    Hmm, okay so you two think its ano? I like the stealth look too, but i already have a stealth black stickerless MTB,

    my Intense 5.5evp...


    ...and i plan on keeping the Intense that way so i was wanting something a bit different for the big Nic, and everyone knows Nicolai's look great in raw. Brings all the amazing details out.
    Anyone know how to physically tell the difference between ano and matt paint??

    A quick spec:-
    FRAME: Nicolai Helius ST 2006, Medium, Matt black ano or paint?
    SHOCK: Cane Creek Double Barrel, Ti spring (currently set on second hole from top)
    FORK: Marzocchi 66RCX2 2006, 170mm
    CRANKS: Saint with E13 guide & bashie
    BRAKES: Saint with 8" rotor F&R
    DRIVETRAIN: SRAM X9 mech + shifter, XT cassette
    BARS: Easton EA50 riser
    HEADSET: Chris King
    SEAT: WTB Laser V Ti

    She pedals great but does weight a bit (20kg give or take) but is in need of a new wheelset & tyres, so I'm hoping to cut a little pork during that upgrade. Everything else functions fine and gets the job done so I see little need for an upgrade, apart from perhaps a 180mm Totem to replace the 170mm 66's in the future, though these RCX2's do feel rather nice.

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    2006 ST update

    Okay, time for an update; Finally got my ST going last weekend so took some pics of it prior to its first proper ride. Initial impressions are this bike is capable of waaay more than the rider is. The shock probably needs some tweaks as i'm yet to touched it, but being one of the most flexible & complicated shocks on the market i'm going to make sure i know how to operate it before attempting any experimentation.

    Settings wise, I'm running the shock in the hole second from top on the link & in the stock position on the frame mount. This gives a veeery low BB height of 340mm/13.39 inches, or ~12mm/0.47 inches above the rear axle (thats 10-15mm lower than the renowned low IH Sunday! Only had one decent pedal strike on the first ride tho). The current forks are 170mm though so if I go longer forks (180mm Totems or perhaps 203mm Boxxers) this will help. Or I could change the shock mount position but this will steepen the HA. I was also running around 40% sag (hadn't allowed previously for extra weight of armour + full face) so at 30-35% this will improve the BB height slightly during attack, although I know CCDB's can run at 40%. The BB on my Intense 5.5 is one of the lowest of all trail bikes (13.25 inches!) so am fairly used to flying low TBH.

    So what sort of BB height numbers are you guys running on your ST's??

    Anyway apart from some geo tweaks the bike feels incredible. It grips and launches out of corners, and wants to pop off absolutely anything. So much fun. With the new wheelset & tyres (tires) its also not overly heavy, and pretty damn pedal-friendly overall, even with 40% sag!

    Oh and before you ask, I'm an Aussie so run my brakes "backwards".

    SPEC LIST:

    Frame: '06 Nicolai Helius ST, 6.5-8.0" rear travel, ano black, medium
    Shock: Cane Creek Double Barrel, Ti spring
    Fork: '06 Marzocchi 66RC2X 170mm (thinking Totems or Boxxers)
    Headset: Chris King threadless 1 1/8"
    Wheelset: Hope Pro2 32 spoke hubs (20mm front, 135x12 rear), Mavic EX721, DT Swiss DB spokes
    Tyres: Intense 909 FRO Lite EX/DC dual compound, 2.5" 1-ply front + 2.35" 2-ply rear, Conti tubes
    Brakes: Shimano Saint with 203mm rotors
    Drivetrain: SRAM X9 shifter, SRAM X7 derailleur (X9 to go back on soon)
    Cranks: Saint cranks, E13 SRS guide & bashie
    Pedals: 24Bicycles Butterfly platforms
    Stem: Kalloy 50mm oversized (temp cheap & light stand-in for now)
    Bars: Easton EA50 690mm oversized (want lower & wider Sunline V1's ~730mm or similar)
    Grips: Element LockOn's
    Post: Aomeba 30.0 (want Thomson 30.0)
    Saddle: WTB Laser V Ti Team

    VIDEO:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laJaWZIg-Kg

    ^^ short video of me on its first shakedown. Wasn't hitting big stuff by any means, i was just wanting to test & get used to the bike & tyres more than anything, besides this was the first time for me riding a bike of this nature (plus riding in armour and full face). You have to start somewhere.

    PICTURES:







    excuse this dodgy photo...



    Cheers,

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    Sexy sexy ST.... Enjoy
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    Frame, Size: HELIUS ST / Small
    * Fork: Boxxer Worldcup
    * Shock, i2i, stroke: Fox DHX 5.0 Ti spring 450x3.15
    * Brakes: Avid Elixirs
    * Cranks: Sram Stylo
    * Guide: e thirteen lg1
    * Shifters: Sram x9
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram x9
    * Pedals: Wellgo Mg1
    * Stem: Funn direct boxxer
    * Handlebar: Sram Carbon race Noir
    * Seatpost: SGD
    * Saddle: SDG
    * Cassette: Sram PG-970 DH
    * Chain: Shimano HD
    * Headset: Cane Creek
    * Front Tire: Maxxis Minion 2.5
    * Wheel Set: Mavic Crossline SX
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Minion 2.35

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    ^^ nice build.

    So what sort of BB height numbers are people getting/running with their Helius ST's??

    As i said a couple of posts above, my BB height is looow @ 340mm/13.39 inches (BB centre to ground level), or ~12mm/0.47 inches above the rear axle, as Nicolai likes it. Of course this number needs to be read in conjunction with the amount of sag being run, as well as front and rear travel. Think i'm running at around 35% sag, with the shock in the second hole from the top (second hightest travel setting). One key on my build is the forks, which are only 170mm (though I am running a large Chris King race which actually equates to an extra 10mm in front end height anyway).

    I have clashed the pedals a few times out of the three times i've had my ST offroad, but only once badly enough for me to loose control (perhaps its because i'm well aware of its low-ness, or the fact the trails i'm riding are somewhat flowy & groomed/hardpack). Perhaps I should try some more techy stuff and see if i struggle with pedal/BB height, but i really am not finding it much of a hinderance (yet).

    Anyway, i'm keen to see what other people are running in the bottom bracket height department, and if people think my 13.39 inch BB height is way too low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starship303
    ^^ nice build.

    So what sort of BB height numbers are people getting/running with their Helius ST's??

    As i said a couple of posts above, my BB height is looow @ 340mm/13.39 inches (BB centre to ground level), or ~12mm/0.47 inches above the rear axle, as Nicolai likes it. Of course this number needs to be read in conjunction with the amount of sag being run, as well as front and rear travel. Think i'm running at around 35% sag, with the shock in the second hole from the top (second hightest travel setting). One key on my build is the forks, which are only 170mm (though I am running a large Chris King race which actually equates to an extra 10mm in front end height anyway).

    I have clashed the pedals a few times out of the three times i've had my ST offroad, but only once badly enough for me to loose control (perhaps its because i'm well aware of its low-ness, or the fact the trails i'm riding are somewhat flowy & groomed/hardpack). Perhaps I should try some more techy stuff and see if i struggle with pedal/BB height, but i really am not finding it much of a hinderance (yet).

    Anyway, i'm keen to see what other people are running in the bottom bracket height department, and if people think my 13.39 inch BB height is way too low.

    Cheers,
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    yea i had the same problem, my pedals got all battered up when my sag was really high cause i was running on too soft of spring when i first got my st ;p. but now im running full travel so the bb should be slightly higher but also with a low percentage sag. 30 ish. I'm also trying to get a 3' stroke instead of a 2.75. I measured 9.5' i to i and should fit on the lowest hole setting but be full travel still.

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    The ST is looking bloody awesome Ian, nice one!
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    Nice Ian - looks even better in the flesh!

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    on top of a freezing mountain, what a random place to meet. lol

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    Missed this ST ianpinder - Looks awesome, how is she riding?

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    It rides awesome, the backend is wicked, its really solid as well, takes a battering

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