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    Nicolai Helius FR Suspension Setup

    Alright Folks,

    I have just recieved my first ever Nicolai!! (Good Times!)

    My question is actually about suspension setup there seems to be about a million and one differnet positions on this bike but I'm not really in tune(get it) with the suspension technology. (I should possibly mention that I have bought a new 07 from the distrubuters here in the UK so I have the adjustable frame.) What difference do these settings make. I take it the further forward the shock the lower the BB and the less travel?


    I hope to get her built up asap. I have all the bits just need to move a headset from the old bike. Probably wont look a patch on the setups I have seen posted here! but just incase you can't wait to see a pic here is the build

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc: 5'11 13 stone ??? I ride my bike over whats in front of me.

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Helius FR M Black Ano
    * Fork: Lyric
    * Shock, i2i, stroke DHX4.0
    * Brakes:Formula K24 180mm
    * Cranks:Shimano XT
    * Shifters:Shimano LX
    * Front Derailleur:Shimano LX
    * Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT shadow
    * Pedals: Crank Bros. Mallet C
    * Stem: Hope DH 50mm
    * Handlebar: Eason Havoc 711mm
    * Seatpost: Some peice of metal
    * Saddle:Some WTB effort
    * Bottom Bracket: Hollow tec
    * Cassette:SRAM
    * Chain:SRAM
    * Headset:Chris King 1 1/8
    * Grips:Lizard Skin Steve Peat
    * Front Tire:Minion
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:Atomlab Pimp Lite with DT swiss comp
    * Front Hub/Skewer:Halo Spin Doctor
    * Rear Tire:Swap Thing
    * Rear Rim:Mavic 325 with DT Swiss Comp
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro 2
    * Cables:
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:????? Yet to be found out.

    James

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    the 2007 FR has an adjustable rear travel from 115 to 163mm. the top most rear shock bolt being at the longest travel and thereafter, 147mm, 131mm (thereabouts) and finally 115mm at the lowest mounting bolt.

    you are using a coil rear shock, then you will most probably have to change the coil if you decide to change the travel, as you will most probably not be able to properly achieve the correct sag for the type of riding you do.
    Last edited by chinaman; 04-21-2008 at 01:00 PM.

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    Ok thanks Chinaman, can you tell me what the angle of your shock is all about it seems that you can adjust you shock to be at more of a straight line by moving the rear most shock mounting bolts. Is this correct or is just to accomdate the supension settings.

    Thanks

    James

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    By changing the rear mounting bolts position, you are changing the amount of rear travel on the FR.

    20080421 nicolai helius FR 2007 travel MTBR FORUM.jpg
    acknowledgement: thanks to smith for the picture of this stead to use for the illustration

    shock coil calculator to determine a coil weight to use.

    http://www.tftunedshox.com/tech-area...alculator.html

    for your fox coil
    Last edited by chinaman; 04-22-2008 at 03:31 PM.

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    A right I see a picture tells a thousand words!

    Thanks

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    see that what happens when people save passwords.

    sorry

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    btw MrH/2T congrats on your new FR ...

    remember to post pictures and specs on the FR setup database ...
    Last edited by chinaman; 04-21-2008 at 02:58 PM.

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    Yup that's my picture and I'm glad it has helped

    Two tone - congrats on your new rig. The FR is a great bike and I'm sure you'll have lots of fun on it.

    BTW maybe you should reconsider your headset choice because you may void your warranty. For details, check this thread: Deep cup headsets for Nicolai bikes

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    mrhyde or is it two tone

    Ha, I can you believe it.. I have dreams of buying a Heluis FR and do masses of research. Unfortunatly I realise I cant afford one (gutted). So.. then, my flatmate goes out the next day and buys one for himself! and then he hijacks my forum log in.. talk about rubbing salt in the wound..


    Canfield v Nicolai could be a bloody battle..

    Mark

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    The reality of realising that you made the wrong choice Mr. Hyde must hurt some what!


    Smith That is an absolute welth of info there thanks very much. I find it hard to beleive that this makes a difference to the tubing when it's so MASSIVE!!!

    But if thats what there saying I need to look into it!! (might be a little longer for the PICs now!!)

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    its not the bike its the rider on it..

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    you better get some trainning then!!

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    Two tone, congrats on your new stead.... Enjoy that puppy when she is built...

    Welcome also to the forums....

    When she is built, as mentioned above, please post into the Helius FR set up database...

    Looking forward to seeing this bike built up
    The_Lecht_Rocks: whafe - cheeers - may i offer an official apology for the wagon wheeler "dis-belief"

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    cheers Whafe

    have been looking at the setup database some crazy setups there Smith's is particually astetically(sp?) pleasing

    Love your paint job Whafe looks amazing with the XRT cranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two tone
    ... find it hard to beleive that this makes a difference to the tubing when it's so MASSIVE!!! ...
    depending on the weight of your coil, you will only be able to use a certain travel, as any other position, due to the leverage ratio, your coil may be too heavily or lightly sprung.

    what is your laden weight and your coil spring weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two tone
    have been looking at the setup database some crazy setups there Smith's is particually astetically(sp?) pleasing
    Hey thanks for your comment
    Wait a little longer and when I finally get my new fork & shock I will post an updated picture. The bike is bound to be looking even better!

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