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    Nicolai Helius CC / Helius Travel - Setup Database

    Nicolai Helius CC / Helius Travel owners please post your setups.

    Potential owners view, compare, drool & gain insight etc!

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    Also "no flames please" you can do that on other posts or create a new one if you need to vent, let this be an information data base to assist not to attack or hinder. We can hopefully build a great source of valuable information.

    Post pictures of your build also......

    Riding terrain conditions:

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc

    * Frame, Size, & Color:
    * Fork:
    * Shock, i2i, stroke
    * Brakes:
    * Cranks:
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    * Front Derailleur:
    * Rear Derailleur:
    * Pedals:
    * Stem:
    * Handlebar:
    * Seatpost:
    * Saddle:
    * Bottom Bracket:
    * Cassette:
    * Chain:
    * Headset:
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    * Front Tire:
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:
    * Front Hub/Skewer:
    * Rear Tire:
    * Rear Rim:
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:
    * Cables:
    * Misc:
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    Helius CC 2007 custom sized



    Rider: 173cm 72kgs

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Size small w/ medium top tube anno bronze
    * Fork: Maverick DUC32
    * Shock: DT SSL190
    * Brakes: Hope Mini/M4 180/160
    * Cranks: Shimano XT Hollowtech 2
    * Shifters: XO Gripshift
    * Front Derailleur: SRAM X9
    * Rear Derailleur: SRAM XO
    * Pedals: Shimano PD959
    * Stem: Maverick 105mm
    * Handlebar: FSA carbon riser
    * Seatpost: Thompson setback
    * Saddle: Specialized
    * Bottom Bracket:
    * Cassette: XT
    * Chain: SRAM 990
    * Headset: King
    * Grips: ODI
    * Front Tire: Panaracer Fire XC
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Mavic XM819
    * Front Hub/Skewer:
    * Rear Tire: Panaracer Fire XC
    * Rear Rim: DT XR4.1d
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope
    * Cables: Flying Snake sealed
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: c. 12 kgs +- / 26 - 27 lbs

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    mudson - Sweet looking build, thanks for posting.... Enjoy..... Please start some threads of riding pictures etc on this beast.....
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    Riding terrain conditions: technical, rocky rooty, slight drop-offs no more than 2', damp to dry

    * Rider height 5'10", weight 158lbs, ride style XC/endurance/trail

    * Frame, Size, & Color: 2005 L Black
    * Fork: RS 2007 Lyrik
    * Shock, Dt Swiss 200mm i2i, stroke 2.0"
    * Brakes: Shimano 2008 XT
    * Hose: Front Goodridge Steel Braided /Rear Shimano Standard
    * Rotors: Hope F 203mm/R 183mm
    * Cranks: Shimano 2008 XT
    * Shifters: Shimano 2008 XT
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano 2008 XT M770
    * Rear Derailleur: Shimano 2008 XT M771
    * Pedals: Shimano M647
    * Stem: Thomson 90mm inverted
    * Handlebar: Raceface Deus Low Riser
    * Seatpost: Thomson 31.6mm
    * Saddle: Fizik Gobi
    * Bottom Bracket: Shimano 2008 XT
    * Cassette: SRAM PG990
    * Chain: SRAM PG991
    * Headset: Chris King
    * Grips: Raceface
    * Front Tire: Michelin Mountain Dry 2 2.30"
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: DT Swiss EX5.1D/DT Swiss
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro II/20mm
    * Rear Tire: Michelin Mountain Dry 2 2.30"
    * Rear Rim: DT Swiss EX5.1D/DT Swiss
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro II/10mm bolt through
    * Cables: Transfil
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: ~ 32 lbs
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    Sweet as interesting build, strong and fast comes to mind.... Enjoy bro, never be shy on bulk pics of rides...LOL............We all love pics
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    Cheers Whafe ... will get more pics on ... been so long looking at the bare frame and since it was built up ... i take every opportunity to get it out for a bash ...

    Looking forward to your FR ... I might give it a year before looking to get the 2008 FR ... will give the 2007 FR a miss ...

    Who knows ... after a year on the CC i might decide to keep it ... just gotta keep tabs on the type of riding I do ...

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    2008 Helius CC

    * Rider height 187cm, weight 84kg, ride style: trail, endurance.

    * Frame, Size, & Color: 2008 Helius CC, Large, Anno black
    * Fork: RS Revelation 426 Air uturn with pushloc
    * Shock: DT Swiss XM180
    * Brakes: Avid Juicy Ultimate 160F/160R
    * Cranks: Truvativ Noir 175mm
    * Shifters: Sram XO
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano XT
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram XO
    * Pedals: Crank Bros. Candy SL
    * Stem: Thomson Elite 0 degree 110mm
    * Handlebar: Easton EA70 lowrise
    * Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    * Saddle: Fizik Gobi
    * Bottom Bracket: Truvativ
    * Cassette: Sram PG 990
    * Chain: Sram PC 991
    * Headset: Chris King
    * Grips: ODI ruffian
    * Front Tire: Maxxis Ignitor 2.35 UST
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: DT Swiss 4.2xd with Stans/ Dt Swiss
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro 3 / Hope Steel QR
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Crossmark 2.1 UST
    * Rear Rim: DT Swiss 4.2xd with Stans/ Dt Swiss
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro 3 / Hope Steel QR
    * Cables:
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: 12.7kg


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    Nice ride there loolio, you have got to like the CC in the stealth black look, any ride reports yet?

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    Thanks lornibear,
    Yeah i thought about some of the other colours in the massive Nicolai selection but in the end couldn't go past the anno black - so smooth.
    I have had two real rides so far. My first impression was how stiff the whole bike felt. The bar/stem/fork combo feels really solid and gives great confidence when going through rocky/downhill sections. The bike also feels really solid through the bottom bracket and cranks, i put put this down to the Nicolai engineering of the frame but also the Truvativ Noir cranks - they're sweet. I was pleased to see my bike arrive with the new DT Swiss XM180 shock, it is very plush and active, i have to look down while i ride to see that it is working as there is no noticebale pedal bob while riding. With the front and rear locked out the bike is super fast and good for pedalling on the road to the trailhead. As expected the Juicy Ultimate brakes and SRAM/Truvativ drivetrain have performed flawlessly so far. As for the overall ride, it's great - awsome geometry of the frame and a strong/light build makes for a confidence inspiring and fast trail bike.

    loolio

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    loolio - Great looking bike, indeed the black ano is a great stealth colour... Interesting cool build.

    Awesome to hear she rides well, same feelings about my FR, stiff and responsive come to mind first up, am stoked...

    Enjoy, and keep the pictures coming..

    Lorni - ANy sign of your frame as yet..
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    I am collecting it this wednesday, I can't wait. I already have all the kit to put on it. I went for a double saint crank with a larger 36T chainring with E Thirteen bashguard, which I am having fun putting together until wednesday. Will post pics after pick up. She is going straight to the LBS for fitting of the headset and BB. I just can't wait

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    Awesome looking bike loolio! If a Helius CC should ever find a way to me, it will look a lot like yours.

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    New (to me) Helius CC

    Riding terrain conditions:

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc
    5 11 tall, 190lb, agressive xc

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Medium, Ano Bronze
    * Fork: Rock Shox Revelation coil
    * Shock, i2i, stroke: Fox DHX4
    * Brakes:XT
    * Cranks:Hone
    * Shifters:XTR
    * Front Derailleur:XT
    * Rear Derailleur:XT
    * Pedals:Time Atac
    * Stem: no name brand - still unsure of preferred length
    * Handlebar:Easton EA70 low rise
    * Seatpost:Thomson
    * Saddle:Flite
    * Bottom Bracket:XT
    * Cassette:XT
    * Chain:Sram 991
    * Headset:FSA
    * Grips:Lock on
    * Front Tire:Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:Mavic 717
    * Front Hub/Skewer:XT
    * Rear Tire:Panaracer Fire XC Pro 2.1
    * Rear Rim:Mavic 717* Rear Hub/Skewer:
    * Cables:XTR
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:?



    Update image, out on the trail at Afan.
    Having put some miles off road on this bike now, its the best handling bike I've ever ridden. Rock solid and dependable in its handling.
    I can only wonder what the Helius FR must be like - must resist the temptation.

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    Nice ride and a lovely colour, a really lovely bike there bro!

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    Thanks lornibear.

    I haven't owned or ridden a full suss bike for about six months now. Had a Turner Flux before, but always felt it was a little fragile to me.

    The build quality on the Helius is something else - the attention to detail and the finishing is first class.

    First ride tomorrow.

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    Enjoy that first ride nicolap99, sweet bike, man it will fly, yeah ha
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    Went for the first ride today on the Helius, first port of call was to Skyline Cycles (Kevin the mechanic) who set the suspension up for me - first coil rear shock (thanks Kev).

    Decided to ride Whites Level due to the deterioration in the weather,plus I know the terrain very well.

    Climbs very well, and is very quiet, bike felt very controlled and supple.

    Descending was where the bike really shone though. It was controlled and never felt flustered, didn't push it too hard as its slightly different to the hardtail that I've been using for the last six months or so.

    It felt similar to the Turner Flux, but much more stable and firmer. Tracked very well.

    I might have to reconsider my opinion of full suss on this evidence.

    Out tomorrow to give it a blast - it'll have to come down the final Skyline descent. It's really good living near Afan, spoilt for choices of where to ride , its all good :-)

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    Thats a super lush minx of a machine..never seen one in the flesh but anno bronze is supposed to look the balls in sunlight... loving the finishing kit too.. big fan of times and the Thompson and Flite combo rocks

    OOh an Afan resident Love it there. haven't made a trip since last summer but will deffo be up there soon.. that Skyline descent is a stonker.. last time i was there we did Whites Level, then did the climb again to pick up the Skyline descent cos we love it so much

    Heard while there its worth paying a visit to the Gorlech trail at Brechfa.. have you done that?

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    Hi Karve
    Yep, I'm lucky really, work brought me to the area, I can literally ride my bike to the top of the Wall descent from my house. I know all the Afan and Glyncorrwg trails very well.

    Skyline descent is my favourite, but all the trails offer good riding.

    I've ridden the Brechfa trail as well, its very different in that its very man made with an ultra smooth surface. The descents are superb, big banked berms with loads of table tops etc.
    Well worth a visit, but can be very slippery in the wet - there's quite a bit of slate in the trail.

    Have a look at my Opera web site for some images etc.

    http://my.opera.com/nicolap99/albums/

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    Hi Nicolap99 and Karve,

    I love the Afan National Park. I haven't been for about six months but it's great now the campsite near summit cycles is open so you can pitch your tent and you are straight out onto the trails. I haven't taken my FR onto the hills there yet, but the final descent on skyline is just one of the best. I took the wife around all 47 Km of the summit trail for her first mountain biking visit - she loved it.

    Micolap99, how are the trails riding at the moment? drainage is normally quite good although it can get a bit hairy on the Wall when wet and muddy. Again, a nice ride buddy.

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    Hi lornibear
    Trails are holding up really well, the drainage is very good. It rained quite hard at the end of yesterdays ride, but the sun is actually out at the moment.

    I'm just about to leave the house to ride the Skyline today, got the rear shock dialled in now etc.

    The final descent on the Wall has cut up a little, making it a little more difficult than it once was - but its still a great final descent.

    Skyline final descent is the top section for me though.

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    Nicolap99, just looking at your flux Rohloff, nice bit of kit. I don't know much about them, perhaps you could tell me about it as it could be on my next project. How do they work, what gear ratios do they use, what hub have you specced and where to get them? Many thanks

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    Rohloff info

    The rohloff speedhub is an internal gear hub. I have attached some links to the Rohloff Owners Club and Rohloff site itself (as there is just too much information to get a clear and precise answer).

    I use a Rohloff hub on my hardtail and tried it for a short period on the Turner Flux. The speedhub is quite expensive and this usually puts most people off (plus they see the weight as being a major issue).

    The cost for a built up wheel with the Speedhub is around 850, and the rear wheel weighs in at about 5lbs. Got that bit out of the way first, now for the advantages.

    On a hardtail it makes very good sense (more about fitting on full suss later), you'll need some form of tensioning the chain this is where a Rohloff specific frame is worth its weight in gold - see Nicolai and Endorfin hardtails.

    You can mount a speedhub with the use of a chain tensioner, you'd need to do this if you were fitting to a full suss due to the chain growth through the travel.

    You get 14 gears which replicate the range of a normal 44/32/22 with 11 -32 cassette (almost) , but with no duplication of overlap of ratios.

    No chain slap.
    No chain suck.
    No missed gear shifts.
    No derailled chain.
    Clean straight chain line - lasts a long time.
    Easier to clean.
    Mud and poor weather makes no difference to shift performance.
    Ability to change gear stood still.
    Rohloff reliability reputation.
    Get to belong to a quirky equipment user group :-)
    Get used to having to answer loads of question about the hub on every ride by other bikers........

    Have a look at the links, there's plenty of information here.

    I personally think it' great on a hardtail, and probably wouldn't use conventional gears here again.

    But........(I'm in the minority here amongst Rohloff users), I didn't like it so much on the full suss.

    You have to use a chain tensioner , ideally a chain guide helps as the chain can jump off (it did with me). You do get some chain slap.
    Probably more than anything else though the extra weight seemed to have an adverse effect on the handling of the Flux. Now the Flux is a light weight bike, and it might not be the same for all full suss.......

    As a winter / bad weather piece of kit it can't be beat.

    Hardtail and rohloff for the winter.

    Bouncy bile with gears for the drier weather.

    http://www.rohloffownersclub.com/

    http://www.rohloff.de/en/home/index.html

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    In addition to the FR, "Moonglu" has 2 new stunning CC's on their custom bikes section:


    http://www.moonglu.com/custom/dizzycc.html


    http://www.moonglu.com/custom/camocc.html

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    New Helius CC Rohloff

    Just built up my new Helius CC Rohloff specific frame. Haven't ridden it in anger yet, have to wait until this Saturday.

    I ordered the frame about three months ago and wanted to get back to a Rohloff equipped bike, I've also got a conventional geared Helius CC.

    Also wanted something a little different from the more usual ano bronze or ano black.

    Went for gloss white front triangle with ano black FR rear stays. Nice touch on the headtube with the milled out "N".

    More images here
    http://my.opera.com/nicolap99/albums/show.dml?id=584360







    Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Helius CC with FR rear triangle / medium / gloss white front main triangle with ano black rear triangle
    * Fork: Pace RC40 XCFR
    * Shock, i2i, stroke Fox Van 200 eye to eye / 57mm stroke
    * Brakes: Shimano XT / 180 front / 160 rear
    * Cranks:Shimano HTII with 38T chainring
    * Shifters: Rohloff
    * Front Derailleur: none
    * Rear Derailleur: None
    * Pedals:Time ATAC
    * Stem: Thomson
    * Handlebar:Easton EA70
    * Seatpost:Thomson
    * Saddle:Flite
    * Bottom Bracket:HTII
    * Cassette:N/a
    * Chain:8 speed SRAM
    * Headset:FSA Orbit Extreme
    * Grips:ODI lock on
    * Front Tire:Maxxis Minion 2.3 Super Tacky
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:X719
    * Front Hub/Skewer:Shimano XT
    * Rear Tire:Maxxis Minim 2.3 hard compound
    * Rear Rim:X717
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:Rohloff Speedhub
    * Cables: Shimano
    * Misc:Rohloff Speedhub with chain tensioner and chain guide
    * Overall Weight : 33 lbs
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