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    Nicolai Helius AM - Setup Database

    Nicolai Helius AM owners please post your setups.

    Potential owners view, compare, drool & gain insight etc!

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    Also "no flames please" you can do that on other posts or create a new one if you need to vent, let this be an information data base to assist not to attack or hinder. We can hopefully build a great source of valuable information.

    Post pictures of your build also......

    Riding terrain conditions:

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc

    * Frame, Size, & Color:
    * Fork:
    * Shock, i2i, stroke
    * Brakes:
    * Cranks:
    * Shifters:
    * Front Derailleur:
    * Rear Derailleur:
    * Pedals:
    * Stem:
    * Handlebar:
    * Seatpost:
    * Saddle:
    * Bottom Bracket:
    * Cassette:
    * Chain:
    * Headset:
    * Grips:
    * Front Tire:
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:
    * Front Hub/Skewer:
    * Rear Tire:
    * Rear Rim:
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:
    * Cables:
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:
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    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc
    6 foot, 14.5 stone, mainly trail

    * Frame: Size, & Color: medium, ano bronze and black
    * Fork: 2005 Talas 36RC2
    * Shock, i2i, stroke: 200X57 DHX-C 650lb spring
    * Brakes: Hope Moto V2's
    * Cranks: RF Atlas
    * Shifters:Sram XO
    * Front Derailleur: XTR
    * Rear Derailleur: XO
    * Pedals: Easton flatboys
    * Stem: 70mm Gravity
    * Handlebar: easton CNT DH
    * Seatpost: SDG I-Beam
    * Saddle: SDG formula FX
    * Bottom Bracket: Hope stainless
    * Cassette: XT
    * Chain: XTR
    * Headset: CK rasta
    * Grips: RF lock ons
    * Front Tire: shwalbe 2.4 Nobby Nic
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: DT 6.1
    * Front Hub/Skewer: DT 440
    * Rear Tire: Schwalbe 2.25 NN
    * Rear Rim: mavic 819 ust
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro 2
    * Cables: shimano
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:33.5lb

    Still waitig on some stuff hence odd mix of wheels etc. Will probably run 2.4 NN's on Hope 5.1 Hoops. CCDB to be fitted. May or may not change fork. It's working so well after being fitted with 09 internals that there's really no justification to change it.

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    Mostly hilly / mountainous XC / FR including 4-6’ drops + Shore.
    Also includes the 7 Stanes, Fochabers Monster + Golspie Highland Wildtrax.

    * 6 Foot, 82kg. Social rider – Not racing.

    * 2009 Helius AM Anodized Black, White Graphics, Large.
    * Custom options limited to Crud bosses on DT.
    * 2009 Fox 36 Float RC2
    * 2009 Fox DHX-5.0 Air, 200mm i2i, 57mm stroke.
    * Hope Moto V2 F&R : 203mm Rotor.Braided Hoses.
    * Race Face Atlas AM 170mm.
    * Sram X0 Triggers:
    * Shimano XTR.
    * Sram X0:
    * Easton Flatboy:
    * Thomson 70mm X4:
    * Easton Monkeylite DH High Rise 711mm 31.8mm Oversize.
    * SDG I-Beam 31.6mm (Black):
    * SDG I-Beam Wingflex (White):
    * Hope QR Seat release:
    * Hope Ceramic:
    * SRAM PC990:
    * Shimano Dura-Ace 9 speed:
    * Chris King Steel (Red):
    * Oury / ODI Ruffian:
    * Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.4”:
    * DT 5.1D / DT DB Stainless (Black):
    * Chris King Iso 20mm Bolt Through:
    * Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.4”:
    * DT 5.1D / DT DB Stainless (Black):
    * Chris King Iso 9mm QR / Hope (Silver):
    * Avid Flak Jackets:
    * USE Carbon Headset spacers
    * Lizard skin chainstay protection
    * Helicopter taped in specific zones.

    * Estimated 30.5 lbs:

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    we need more pictures here ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Nicolai Helius AM owners please post your setups ...
    cheers whafe for setting up these 'setup' threads

    * Rider height 5'10", weight 158lbs, ride style XC/endurance/trail/AM?

    * Frame, Size, & Color: 2008 M Black
    * Fork: RS 2007 Lyrik
    * Shock, Fox RP2 or SPV 4 coil (200mm i2i, stroke 2.25")
    * Brakes: Shimano 2008 XT
    * Hose: Goodridge Steel Braided
    * Rotors: Hope F/R 203mm/183mm
    * Cranks: Shimano 2008 XT
    * Shifters: Shimano 2008 XT
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano 2008 XT M770
    * Rear Derailleur: Shimano 2008 XT M771
    * Pedals: Shimano M647
    * Stem: Thomson 70mm
    * Handlebar: Raceface Deus Low Riser
    * Seatpost: Thomson 31.6mm
    * Saddle: Fizik Gobi
    * Bottom Bracket: Shimano 2008 XT
    * Cassette: SRAM PG990
    * Chain: SRAM PG991
    * Headset: Chris King
    * Grips: Raceface
    * Front Tire: Michelin Mountain Dry 2 2.30"
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: DT Swiss EX5.1D/DT Swiss
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro II/20mm
    * Rear Tire: Michelin Mountain Dry 2 2.30"
    * Rear Rim: DT Swiss EX5.1D/DT Swiss
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Hope Pro II/12mm bolt through
    * Cables: Transfil
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: ~ unsure yet will update in due course

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    Got some fresh meat ... It's a bike from the German Nicolai-Forum. According to the owner it weigh's 13,74 kg (~30.29lbs) No partlist for now, but it should be pretty self-explaining.




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    Good job! AM Spec

    Trail/FR including drops and jumps

    * Rider height 5'11", weight 13+ Stone , ride style anything fast + fun

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Medium Anodized bronze front/Anodized black rear (Crud Catcher Mounts, 12mm Rear)
    * Fork: Fox 36 Float RC2
    * Shock, Fox Float RP23
    * Brakes: Hope Moto V2 Disc Brakes Front/Rear
    * Hose: Goodridge Steel Braided
    * Rotors: Hope Moto V2 F/R 203mm
    * Cranks: Shimano XTR
    * Shifters: Sram X0 Shifter pods
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano XTR Front Mech
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram X0 Rear Mech Medium Cage
    * Pedals: DMR V12 Magnesium (White)
    * Stem: Thomson 50mm
    * Handlebar: Easton EC70 MonkeyLite CNT DH Riser 31.8 (Black/Gold)
    * Seatpost: Thomson Elite InLine Seatpost Black 440mm
    * Saddle: SDG Ti FlyC White
    * Bottom Bracket: Shimano XTR Ceramic
    * Cassette: SRAM PG990
    * Chain: SRAM PG991
    * Headset: Chris King Steelset 1/1/8th
    * Grips: Raceface Peaty Lock-on Grips
    * Front Tire: Shwalbe Big Betty Snake Skin 2.4
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: DT Swiss EX5.1D/DT Swiss
    * Front Hub/Skewer: DT Swiss 240s (EX1750 Wheelset) 20mm bolt thru
    * Rear Tire: Shwalbe NN 2.4
    * Rear Rim: DT Swiss EX5.1D/DT Swiss
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: DT Swiss 240s (EX1750 Wheelset) 12mm bolt thru
    * Cables: Black
    * Misc: Hope Seat Clamp QR 34.9 (Black), RaceFace Atlas FR Bash Guard, Stinger Chain Device BB mount, Strailine White bar ends,
    * Overall Weight: 31lb
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    Looks sweet, nice AM... Enjoy that puppy.....
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    Thanks dude, i was out today and jesus altho it was pretty bad weather the AM just ooozeeesssssss speed! Loving it big time, and as for that CCDB one word AMAZING!...
    It took everything in its stride, i dont know if its the AM/CCDB combo or one or the other but my god it just flies never loosing traction. Great day!!!

    I took it pretty easy last Sunday when i demo'd the AM but now its all mine i can rip it big time! Hopefully in time i'll be able to keep up with Dipper & The_Lecht

    Derek

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    it's just that you've now got an 'All Mountain' bike
    i've been telling you to get one for a long time !

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    it's just that you've now got an 'All Mountain' bike
    i've been telling you to get one for a long time !
    I know dude sorted now!!!

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    Derekr - Souds like you've been having fun mate - good on ya! I've spoken to a few people who run the CCDB and by all accounts, it is a paradigm shift in terms of shock performance - there's nothing, save perhaps the new BOS Stoy, that even comes close in terms of performance. I'm sure the AM is adding big time to the deal but the CCDB has been custom built basically, for that bike.

    You're coming to this from a VP Free aren't you - how does it compare and is it easier to pedal around?

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    Geetee1972, The AM is night and day to pedal although completly different bikes i dont feel the AM is any less capable and its very easy to pedal! The VP had alot of strong points but the AM is a huge step forward for me.

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    I've updated my spec to reflect the changes i'm making to the AM.

    Going for a lighter build using Fox Float 36 RC2's on the front and Fox Float RP23 on the rear. Also swapping to new XTR cranks, Lighter seat and gona go with Nicolai's recomendation of a CK steelset to cover the deep cup insertion deal.

    Should be sweet

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    Final spec updated up the page for the AM

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    ... and if we just ... New Red white and Blue

    Pictures of the finished article at 29lb 12oz

    Helius AM 004_edited.jpg

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    Helius AM 008_edited.jpg

    Spec:

    Large Helius AM with ISCG mount
    Chris King Ti Aheadset
    Fox 2009 36RC2
    Fox DHX Air 2008
    Hope Ceramic BB
    Wheels Hope pro2's DT Swiss Aerolite spokes and 819's
    Mountain King UST tyres
    All drive train: XTR with Dura Ace 12-27 Cassette
    Pedals: Time Attack Titanium / Carbon
    Cables Gore Ride-On sealed
    Brakes: Hope Mono Pro Special (180 front rotor) with blue Goodridge hose
    Stem EC90
    Bars Monkeylite CNT XC
    Grips ODI Rogue
    Seatpost Thompson Elite
    Saddle Specialized Toupe
    Seat clamp Salsa
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    For the love of the little donkey that carried the virgin Mary, that thing is feckin' awesome.

    Except the brakes which are pooh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geetee1972
    For the love of the little donkey that carried the virgin Mary, that thing is feckin' awesome.
    Sums it up pretty well!


    *Why can't I think about something cool like that?!*

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    Thanks guys, Geetee the brakes are v light and have not boiled yet if I go to bigger hills I'll just put the M4's on I've got in the garage but for general messing and winter the mono pro's are great

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    Very nice rig there, congrats

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    Can't resist to show you the AM of the Australian importator of Nicolai bikes, he sometimes comes on the french forum to show us his bikes, and we're always
    Here it is, just beautiful ! I'll try to get a list of the parts





    Never enough singletracks !

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    samwell - what weight is it coming in at ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry AM
    Thanks guys, Geetee the brakes are v light and have not boiled yet if I go to bigger hills I'll just put the M4's on I've got in the garage but for general messing and winter the mono pro's are great
    Mate you could have v-brakes on that thing and it would still be sweeter than a Victoria's Secret catalogue!

    My brother, who has only just got into mountain biking, has the same brakes on his Cotic Soul (a hardtail). We were out on the weekend and he managed to boil them on a 3 minute decent. Admittedly he was using them a lot given that he's a novice and on a hardtail, but it was his first experience of what happens when you boil a hydraulic brake. When you don't know what to expect, pulling the lever and having a big fat f*** all happen when you're already going too fast is pretty scary.

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    Gary: looking sweet mate, agree'd on the brakes deffo in the underacheiver catagory.

    Rest looks sweet altho are you not going to install a 22mm headset or are you happy with no warranty?

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    Hi Derek, headset is a calculated risk Nicolai have said they will warranty the frame bar the headtube, although I may change to a reset Ti.

    With regard to brakes I have a set of M4's on the Missus bike but am waiting to see what becomes available over the winter in the mean time the brakes have far more power than my tires have grip in the mud!

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    Hi Garry,

    Maybe you should try the tyre setup i'm running as i honestly cant beleive the grip i had on sunday in the mud! Its all a preference thing some people dont like hugely powerful brakes. I love the moto V2's, the only change i see happening brake wise is a set of tech lever's if they are as good as everyone says. As for the weight i've hit the sweetspot for me so i see no need to save any more. As i said i'd be happy to add a 1lb if required!
    I'm also running a std. CK headset still waiting for the steelset to arrive, do you know the CK Ti is heavier than a std. one?

    I've attached a couple of pics i took down at Fetteresso on Sunday, It was bloody cold so just snapped a couple. I meant to take a couple at the end of the ride as my nice white wheels ended up nearer the colour of the frame after and encounter with a mud bog!

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    here's mine after the mudfest on sunday.




    comes in ~30.6lbs (without mud).

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    Hi Derek,

    Looks like nice woods.

    I didn't mean to knock the grip of the Mountain Kings, but it gets very slippy round this way (wiltshire) you actually get some good rock to ride on! The reason I was waiting on brakes was hope did them for me as favour with 180 rotor (friend of friend) so the front is pretty powerfull. If i do change then it will probably be to either Moto techV2 or formula one but I have tried to keep as much of the bike European if not British so probably the Hopes. They'll need changing for the mega anyhow.

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    Yeah i think the V2's would be awesome for the mega.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    here's mine after the mudfest on sunday.




    comes in ~30.6lbs (without mud).
    Add another 1/2lb for that seat/post

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    I have Formula The Ones on my Ion, with 200mm rotors front and rear. I've had Hope M4s and Avid Juicy Carbons and have boiled both on long Alpine decents. The Formulars however have been awesome and never boiled once, not even on 15minute+ decents in Chamonix. They are truly awersome brakes.

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    Nice looking pics, Any think this bike would be good for some light UK DH duties ? with 36's on and a set of DH tyres ?

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    better off with the FR and a pair of 180mm's simonm

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm
    Nice looking pics, Any think this bike would be good for some light UK DH duties ? with 36's on and a set of DH tyres ?
    I would say so its very capable, i'm running 823 rims on mine and 36s.
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    Next change arrived today a pair of race red Burgtec Penthouse Flats, can't wait to try flat pedals its been 14 years! I've been clipped in all that time.

    But the combination of the pedals and Five Tens should help ease the change.

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    Forgot to mention 2.0 Mud X tyres, Red Hope 70mm stem, 09 crud race guard and Brooks Ti swift saddle in Honey for a bit of classic style and 'comfort' (after its been broken in on the racer set up on the turbo trainer).

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    Everyone here (OZ) is clipped in apart from downhillers.

    mate over here we run anything over 2.1 for pro XC , were talking 2.3 + tyres for AM......

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    Just taken off 2.4 tyres the reason...... we have mud over here mate.

    Are Ozzy freeriders clipped in then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by derekr
    I would say so its very capable, i'm running 823 rims on mine and 36s.
    I suppose its a daft question really as people used to race UK DH with 80mm hardtails ! Im only riding up at wharncliffe from time to time, which is mostly oldskool DH tracks.

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    garry , i left there when i was 29.

    rode in UK mud for years....still have 2 bros ther plodding through the normal.

    all im saying is the XC racers (i race XC too , but not as serious) run 2.1 or less , i always run 2.3 or more ..... all tyres

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    ozzy - you'll be telling us next everyone in Oz wears lycra skin suits and freaks out to pumping Euro dance music

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    Ozzy if we were talking about cross country racing then yes less than 2.0 all the way but I wouldn't say that on soft ground just because the bike is called an AM that I should not use below a 2.4 tyre. I just change tyres with the weather and kind of riding I'm doing I've got every thing in the garage from Maxxis 310's to 2.5 Highrollers just depends on what i'm doing.

    ps. Maxxis 310's may be the lightest tyre possible but it also has the least grip possible unless your riding on short grass! then its great. Suicidal on fireroad and I thought any tyre could manage that

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    ozzy - you'll be telling us next everyone in Oz wears lycra skin suits and freaks out to pumping Euro dance music


    When i left the UK tyre sizing and choice wasn't what it is now. And i have only ridden in muddy conditions once here as we are 99% dry hardpack and dusty conditions. I realize there is more of a job dialling in the correct tyre for the different conditions yous have there. I run 1 type for winter months (nevegals) and another for summer (small block 8) as its garanteed to be dry, yous guys could have different conditions every ride.

    Garry , funny story- back when i started riding Mtb again (1yr ago) i thought this clipped in stuff looked a bit dangerous so i bought a set of DMR V12's , i had them on for 25mins until they took a bite out of my leg then limped home. And yes FR clipless too.

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    Ah yes Ozzy that'll be why I've bought myself a set of fox launch shin/knee pads as I don't want to suffer the same fate your shin did! By the way I'll be riding XC clipped in and AM rides clipped in but not going learning to jump big clipped in! At my local club we have a range of jumps on the hill from 2ft high tables right through to big step downs and a 50ft gap jump and yes it really is 50ft we measured it! see it at http://www.mtbmovies.com/movies.php?id=750

    I am just on the little stuff at the moment and I am hoping the AM and the flat pedals give me the confidence to go big

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    Im not a fan of clipped in pedals, to be honest a pair of 5-10s and a good set of flats is all thats required. I always used to use V12/V8 pedals but now i've moved on to Easton flatboys i wouldnt go back. I do believe the burtec's are a step up again
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    Shweet video mate, trails look like great fun!! Deffo need to take you up on that offer sometime this year!
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    gary when my bike comes any chance we could go mincing there please?

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    Derek and Ian you'll be most welcome.

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    derekr - you don't have a 50 incher in your repertoire, never mind a 50 footer

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    I hope you have more luck with your Burgtec pedals. The quality can be a bit hit and miss. I've had two pairs, still got one set after two years, but the other set caused me no end of problems. I managed to destroy the pedal threads on two cranks and literally couldn't get them into the third before Burgtec finally accepted the threads were fractionally too large! Oh and the pedal body seized onto the axle on both sets.

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