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    and measure your static BB height please

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    frontier - any measurements yet

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    Helius AM - Dizzy Urban Camo & Black

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    Helius AM - Dizzy Urban Camo & Black

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc
    Height 1.83m/6ft; Weight: 105kg/230lbs; Riding Style: Aggressive trail and most likely some DH.

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Helius AM, Large but with a medium seat tube customised to 30.9mm; custom cable routing to accommodate adjustable seat post; Dizzy Urban Camo front, black ano rear, black links and graphics, ISCG tabs.
    * Fork: RS Lyrik Coil
    * Shock, i2i, stroke: Cane Creek 200mm eye to eye, 57mm stroke; 600lb/inch RCS Ti Spring.
    * Brakes: Formula The One with 180mm rotors
    * Cranks: Shimano XT 165mm with the granny ring tabs ground off. Single e13 32t ring
    * Shifters: XTR
    * Front Derailleur: Nah.
    * Rear Derailleur: XTR
    * Pedals: Currently Shimano DX, awaiting some Point One Racing
    * Stem: Thomson X4 50mm
    * Handlebar: Burgtec Ride Wide, 750mm width, 40mm rise.
    * Seatpost: Crank Bros Joplin Remote
    * Saddle: Flite Ti
    * Bottom Bracket: Chris King
    * Cassette: XTR 11-34
    * Chain: SRAM 990
    * Headset: Reset Racing
    * Grips: Odi Ruffians
    * Front Tire: Maxxis Minnion DHF Single Ply Kevlar Bead
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: DT Swiss/Specialized Roval Traverse
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Maxle
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Minnion DHF Single Ply Kevlar Bead
    * Rear Rim: DT Swiss/Specialized Roval Traverse
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:
    * Cables: Gore
    * Misc: Gamut P20 Chain device.
    * Overall Weight: Confirmed at 32lbs 8oz or 14.7kg
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    Now that is one seriously sweet AM! It looks unfamiliar with the shortened seattube, not in a negative way though. I so wish I asked for wire guides for an adjustable post!

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    mmmmm..........dizzy urban looks just like every other dizzy urban - i'm put off it a bit now - i'm thinlking about anodized green next.....
    31.5lbs is a bit optimistic isn't it ? have you got an on-scales shot for proof ?
    cheers.

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    Yeah might be optimistic. The wheels are the key, they are super light at 1450g. I wouldn't use the rear Roval in the Peak/Wales etc, I'd switch to a heavier item.
    Allowing for a few hundred grams of misc, my reckoning brings it in around 32lbs.

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    A truely lovely ride there my friend...

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    Sick, looks absolutely hawt..... I am biased towards urban camo though.... TLR is it your time of the month, you love Urban Camo

    Will be great to hear your reviews on this baby...
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    I have a similar problem on my intense with a cable routing issue. the gear/brake cable comes off the front end and in an S shape level with the linkage, then the next cable mount is about 100mm down the "seat stay" if you will, so it rubs on the edge.

    This is a technique we use on world rally cars (stolen idea from work)

    Essentially you cut a 5-10mm length of small diameter silicone hose (this is the same type as used to plumb the windscreen washers on most cars), put the cable tie through it so the hose sits at the clicky end, then wrap the cable tie around your frame where you want to create a mount, loop it back through the piece of house hose and then around your brake/gear outer



    and also i used it on my fork to keep the front hose tidy


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    A new medium AM for drooling over.

    Dipper will recognise this... although it has now been built up.

    Note the new Marzocchi 55 Micro Ti Forks





    I really like this.

    EDIT - I should add that this is not mine. It belongs to a good friend and I AM VERY JEALOUS!
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    That looks lovely. Nice solid build.

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    Awesome mate - very cool. Did you retire the Nucleon then? You'll be flying on the AM having spent so much time grinding around the hills on the Nucleon.

    Would very much like to hear your thoughts on the 55s. Are they the RC3 Ti ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geetee1972
    Awesome mate - very cool. Did you retire the Nucleon then? You'll be flying on the AM having spent so much time grinding around the hills on the Nucleon.

    Would very much like to hear your thoughts on the 55s. Are they the RC3 Ti ones?
    Oops - sorry for the confusion. I added an EDIT above to say that it's not mine

    Yes the forks are RC3 Ti - First ride report is that they are good and not that heavy... maybe Dipper weighed them? The owner is a Marz lover so he really had no choice in what forks to put on this bike

    First ride report was very enthusiastic... but he always is

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    Brian - whose is it ?
    one of the maniac's ?
    the NE of Scotland is slowly resonating with the sound of Nicolai through it's glens !

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    The "Pocket Rocket" is certainly a maniac

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    Nae Paddy.............?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    Nae Paddy.............?
    nae him

    Another of our number has just ordered an AM though

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    Aye - I Ken Far That Is !

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    I've just received my frame yesterday … I miss the fork and my shock absorber but :

    * Rider :
    - height : 1,77 m
    - weight : 79/80 kg
    - ride style : All Mountain / Enduro ... some time DH light

    Frame, Size, & Color : Hélius AM - Taylor Made (such between S and M and more flat head angle) - Orange anodized for front and chainstay - bright white for seat stay - RD+FD+Hammer - white decals - 12 mm rear axe
    * Fork : Rock Shox Lyric Solo Air MC DH
    * Shock, i2i, stroke : DXH Air 5
    * Brakes : Hope Tech M4 180 mm rear and front
    * Cranks : KCNC
    * Shifters : Sram X0
    * Front Derailleur : Shimano XT
    * Rear Derailleur : Sram X0
    * Pedals : MSC Superflat Ti
    * Stem : Chromag 50 mm
    * Handlebar : Chromag OSX Chrome
    * Seatpost : Gravity Dropper Turbo
    * Saddle : Chromag Lynx Ti
    * Bottom Bracket : KCNC
    * Cassette : XT
    * Chain : Sram
    * Headset : Reset Racing 118 Hdal 2
    * Grips : Oury Lock On
    * Front Tire : Continental Rubber Queen UST 2.4
    * Front Rim/ Spokes : DT Aerolite + Mavix 819
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Chris King Silver
    * Rear Tire : Same as front
    * Rear Rim : same as Front
    * Rear Hub/Skewer : same as front with 12 mm axe
    * Cables : Goodridge kit
    * Misc :
    * Overall Weight : I don't know for the moment ...


    Some pictures (for help me to wait ) :



















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    Man, that's THE dream frame! Exactly my color and even same tailoring that I had given it. Happy for you.

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    You know I am not sure which I dig the most, the colour of the frame or that wallpaper!

    The frame is awesome; good choice to get the white seat stays as it backs off the intensity of the orange ano a bit and gives it a great contrast.

    Intersting about the tailoring. Did you just change the seat tube length with regard to the sizing or is the top tube and wheelbase also different (I know you've also changed the head angle so I guess that would also shorten the TT and lengthen the WB?)

    Come on man - details and buid pics!

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    Thanks dudes

    Quote Originally Posted by geetee1972
    You know I am not sure which I dig the most, the colour of the frame or that wallpaper!

    The frame is awesome; good choice to get the white seat stays as it backs off the intensity of the orange ano a bit and gives it a great contrast.

    Intersting about the tailoring. Did you just change the seat tube length with regard to the sizing or is the top tube and wheelbase also different (I know you've also changed the head angle so I guess that would also shorten the TT and lengthen the WB?)

    Come on man - details and buid pics!
    My Tailor :
    - Top tube : 577 mm
    - Seat tube : 427 mm
    - Chainstay : 427 mm
    - Head angle : 67° with 545 mm fork ... but I will ride a 555 mm forck so the head angle will be 66,5° approximatly
    - For the rest : same geo as usual
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    this im sure, you are one of the first few owners of an Orange Nicolai...

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    hohohohoohoho ! congratulations on orange ano my man - it's a nicolai sexfest at the moment

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    now - what colour extra love for orange anodised ?

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    WOW = what is going on - new nics left right and centre - that is a super sweet colour combo for sure.

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    TLR,

    try green or blue...

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    FOCK ME, that is stunning in colour... Build that puppy, she is going to be stunning....
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    love the ano orange as well. wouldn't have thought of white to go with it but it works really well. green extra love would be stunning as well
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    orange and green like a packet of tic-tacs! loving the colour, orange/white is stunning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by # Oxygum #
    Thanks dudes



    My Tailor :
    - Top tube : 577 mm
    - Seat tube : 427 mm
    - Chainstay : 427 mm
    - Head angle : 67° with 545 mm fork ... but I will ride a 555 mm forck so the head angle will be 66,5° approximatly
    - For the rest : same geo as usual
    Will not the 555mm fork void warranty? Sweet bike, the white seatstay makes a great combination to the orange.

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    # Oxygum # - have you built it up yet ?

    pictures ! i need to see it built !!!!

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    @pimpy - have a word with your mate - his front brake hose routing is shoddy [and liable to fail in a crash] !

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    # Oxygum # - have you built it up yet ?

    pictures ! i need to see it built !!!!
    Sorry man ... I didn't receive my fork and my shock
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    when are they due ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    when are they due ?
    No date for the fork (grrrrrrrrr) ... i'm waiting a date ...
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    Orange anodized is getting me aroused


    That is amazing.
    Please build it and send it to me for testing

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    @xoy - keep us updated - i reckon ano red and orange are simply stunning options

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    That looks fantastic although I'm not sold on the white stays. Looking forward to seeing this one built.

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    Looks great, cant wait to see it built up.
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    agree with you yetimeister - i'd prefer full ano, but the rear stays are an extra €200 in ano alone .
    however, it's a small cost compared to the overall build cost so can easily be "lost" / "justified" [delete as appropriate]

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    TLR - Justification isn't the problem, it's trying to find crumpled bank notes from the furthest reaches of my wallet and pound coins from behind the sofa to pay for the damn stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by yetiman71
    TLR - Justification isn't the problem, it's trying to find crumpled bank notes from the furthest reaches of my wallet and pound coins from behind the sofa to pay for the damn stuff
    The best reason of all

    That orange ano looks unreal !!!!!! Very very nice

    Im good with the white chainstays too , when its built the white will add to the Awsomeness Its good to be different !
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    So how much extra for the new ano finishes then?

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    According to the order-generator it's 400 €.

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    Yeah - €400 Is Expensive, Especially Considering Ano Black Is A No Cost Option ! ? !

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    Yeah - €400 Is Expensive, Especially Considering Ano Black Is A No Cost Option ! ? !

    I was looking at the ano blue but 400 euro?

    not being overly familiar with anodizing what would they have to change to anodize something blue instead of black? Tool change? paintshop setup?

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    its getting a case of ... how good can you afford your nicolai to look ....

    Its not as if they have to go to a bit of hassle to do a camo paintwork....as said before - black or bronze ano is free .... whats with the 400euro charge for any other colour ?

    I think it looks awesome .... but they can stuff it up their ass !

    NICOLAI ... we buy your frames coz we love the build and the ride , they are awesome , dont rip us off mate !!!!!!

    Anodised is anoidised ...... ask Mr Raceface who doesnt seem to have different prices for his colours . His black is the same as red .
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    400 euros.........,
    I believe that to be a lot of money.

    Is the high price, perhaps because Nicolai have to get this finish done by an outside company and they are simply just passing on the cost + a bit for the bother.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the whole coloured ano thing came about because of a one off special request. Having sourced a supplier and fulfilled the order, they have now decided to offer the finish to anyone with enough folded/enthusiasm.

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    Been covered on another thread - coloured ano costs extra because it has to be done elsewhere - hence additional costs to cover shipping and out side work.

    If you want it, pay it, if you don't, don't.

    I'm happy to pay money for improved performance or longevity - hence buying a Nicolai

    But I ain't no poser so the fancy colour ways are not for me

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    This is the thread that has covered the question previously, pretty rational answer,

    if you cntrl F search word cost it'll give you the jist of the answers (the threads not primarily about ano cost)

    First 2 Anodized 2010 frames arrive at my door!

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    Whilst we are on about colour anyone come across a picture of a made up bike thats been sprayed Sky Blue

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    Looking through the thread and thinking about adjustable seatposts, seems about 2/3rd dont run one, what do you guys think about them,

    when i get out on the bike it tends to be for all day rides, lots of miles, lots of ups and downs, is the weight penalty offset by having greater utility?

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    they're great, but imo [joplin r] very pernickity regarding maintenance.
    i like the idea, just not the hassles.
    i've also broken 2 clamps on mine, but the importer [2pure] have been fantastic with their service.

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    Am interested how the Joplin4 turns out, the i950r is the other contender

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    My AM is now being built and the only missing part is the seatpost. I decided to go for the i950 for various reasons (mostly due to no side play and colour choices) but it seems they are out of stock for the moment.
    Aesthetically the new Joplin is the best IMO but my LBS just received one and the side play is very noticeable out of the box, so it's immediately out of consideration.
    I will get a thompson elite for now, and I will keep it as a spare when I finally install the i950 since you can never be sure of their reliability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wpuk
    Am interested how the Joplin4 turns out, the i950r is the other contender
    FYI

    When / where can I get a KS i950-R adjustable seatpost?

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    I have a KS i950 for one year on my all day rides bike, and I can't ride without it anymore. If you are tall, don't hesitate and take the KS because it has 125mm of travel, I would even need a bit more. The 400g more are really worth it !
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    Setup Database Update.
    New Easton CNT DH bars coming next week.
    New 2010 Fox 36 Float R's fitted last weekend.
    Ardent's on CK + 5.1D's.
    Weighing in at 30.8lbs.
    Looking now to reduce the weight to less than 30lbs.
    Full Spec to follow.
    What weight are your AM's ?

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    TLR- Ardents i had were excellent trail center tyres but disintegrated on my local rocky descents.

    Thats a good weight

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    ardents un-tested properly so far - lots and lots of snow here..........
    hoping to break 30lbs in the next month.

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    ztr flows run tubeless should get you nearly there. longer storke shock and Ti spring will take you all the way there(assuming you're still on the CCDB?)
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    not on the CCDB - Monarch 200 x 51 currently fitted........

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    not on the CCDB - Monarch 200 x 51 currently fitted........

    How does it ride with the Monarch.

    Thinking of having a monarch on my AC when i order one.

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    then yer screwed! to get that last few grams will cost loads and I know how skint you are
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    monarch's a great shock. loses small bump sensitivity tho to gain compliance c/f a coil however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    monarch's a great shock. loses small bump sensitivity tho to gain compliance c/f a coil however.

    What Tune is it running?

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    that's on a Tune 'A'.

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    TLR mine was 29.5lb when I first bought it equipment list is on page 1 of this thread.

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    Here you go TLR - a weight weenie tastic 12.6kg (27.8lbs in old money)



    Perfect spec for tiptoe-ing round the trails.

    NOTE - This is not mine. Picture stolen from another forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepimpmessiah
    Here you go TLR - a weight weenie tastic 12.6kg (27.8lbs in old money)

    Perfect spec for tiptoe-ing round the trails.

    Nice, like the highlights, can you post the spec mate

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    I just don't get this weight weenie business.
    Especially on an all mountain bike.

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    @rpm - it's about getting strong AND light, irrespective of cost.
    i like a bike to ride agile, with feedback and that's not possible on a kikkassa.

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    Putting my first choice build into competitive-cyclist its coming out at 28.5lbs and i would say it compromises on nothing for the riding i do

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    should add that at 30.8lbs, mine isn't compromised, but would like to get sub 30lb for full psychological delight

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    should add that at 30.8lbs, mine isn't compromised, but would like to get sub 30lb for full psychological delight
    Speaking of pschological delight, it will also make kicking your arse up the hill on my 40 pounder all the sweeter
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    Quote Originally Posted by dipper
    Speaking of pschological delight, it will also make kicking your arse up the hill on my 40 pounder all the sweeter

    HA HA sweet

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    Enjoy Dipper!

    Only kick it though........

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    Is that why you roll on an afr dipper? So it hurts TLR that little bit more when you mow him over..

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    lol @ dipper.
    as everybody knows, it's going down that counts

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    All this weight weenie talk is infectious

    Please keep it to yourselves and try not to spread it around

    Thanks

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    sub 30lb with a purposeful trail build is possible.
    thinking stans flows in place of 5.1D's and tubes.
    would that lose 1lb ?

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    Why?

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    Just try to think back to the reason you spent all that money going tubeless in the first place!

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    i'm tubeless on my Hummer and Ti456.

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    oxygum - build pics ?

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    TLR - Flows with rim strips are just under a 1lb lighter than my 823's so I doubt you'd save that much changing from the 5.1 rims. A couple hundred grams at most maybe.

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    Just saying, but 200 grams in ones wheels is HUGE....
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    Why go with the Flow? Why not go for arch or some of those really funcy carbon AM rims that are starting to appear?

    RaceFace SIXC Carbon Cranks are lighter than XTR.

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    Yeah be interesting to see how those Fulcrum Carbon Wheelsets, 3,600 USD (FOCK)

    What about the The Hive Fifteen.G cranks, weigh in at 711 grams.....
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    I've been using the Stans Flow rim for several years now and they are excellent for a number of reasons. First, when used tubeless with Maxxis tyres the interface is brilliant - zero problem with getting them inflated and zero problem blowing the tyre off the rim (which can't be said for other rims I've used including the Spesh Roval Traverse).
    Second, the Flow rim is super tough, tough enough to be used competitively for DH racing on relatively tame courses, although they would have a much shorter life than say an 823 if used regularly. For general trail riding, they are about the strongest rim you are ever likely to need IMO.
    They weigh 470g vs. 575g (I think) for DT 5.1d, so yes, 200g saving plus net saving on going tubeless is on offer and as Wharfe says, is huge when saved on wheels. I think you'll also find the Flow tougher than the DT Swiss Cheese rims, which seem to ding at the smallest pebble.
    If you're light, smooth and ride less aggressively, then I'd say the Flow is probably a little overkill and the Arch, which is only about 50g lighter (still a useful saving), would be ideal.
    Bear in mind if you're considering the Mavic 819 that while the weight is 450g, this does not include the heavier external nipples you need. Also the internal width of this rim is less than that of the Flow.

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    Second that. Have Flows on CK hubs on the Argon, and they take a battering. Any weight loss though due to tubeless negated by the supertacky Swampthings am running at the moment though! Just had I9's built onto Arch rims, so will be interested to see how they compare. Plus, given how the prices on Stan's rims have come down recently, all in all a very good option.

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    Flow's are not indestructable, I've bent a flow rim on the front of my hardtail

    I was doing something silly at the time and probably would have bent anything... I'm obviously a nutter of the highest order

    It's a wee bit buckled but still holding up okay so Flow rims still get my

    These wheels will be transfering across to my AM when it arrives

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    sounds like either flow or arch once my 5.1D's die then.
    keeping my XTR cranks on as they're lightish and very strong. i'm happier with the extraction than TRace Face too !

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    Simon,

    Have you broken/bucled any 5.1's.

    I went through a lot of them when i had my I9's.

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    couple of dings - nowt major.
    i do ride light however being a hartail rider.

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    I have seriously beaten the fock out of a few sets of 5.1 rims, never had an issue.... I must be smooth...

    No seriously I have had an awesome run with 5.1's.... In saying that, both by 29ers run Flow rims and they have been awesome, given my wheels on the Jones more of a beating, but am giving the I9 wheelset on Flows a hard time on the Helius AC 29er....
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    Hello to all - being my first post on here...

    Been out of buying wheels for quite a long time as simply put, my mavic 719s/hope bulbs have held up to years of reasonably hard going trail riding. Are Mavic variants no longer in vogue as such? I chose the 719s purely on a strength/weight ratio and used schwalbe 2.35s - worked very well for me and has kept the weight down. Interested to broaden the topic, without blatantly hijacking the thread (ok so I already have)

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