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    Geometry wise my AM could do with a shorter fork than the 160 Fox 36 because it makes the bb a little high and the seat angle a little slack... the head angle however is perfection so I've slid the seat toward on the rails and will continue to ride the hell out of it.

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    @TLR - forget the frame - that`s not issue now - Id like to get good opinions about coil forks

    edit: Let`s imagine that the frame is the first one prototype of RFX 2011 in Europe

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    Guys,

    any updates on your rigs or even completely new ones? Pictures, ride reports, setup changes, ... anything at all would be welcome !

    Cheers !

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    Have got the frame in the box. The CC is sold too this week, so just need to finish getting all the parts together and will post something up. If I get a chance will post up some pics of the frame in the next couple of days.

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    Nice. Do you take the parts off the CC? What colour is the AC?

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    Testmaen, as usual with these projects was going to take most parts from the CC, but...well, on the last ride on the CC doing the Nan Bield pass in the Lake District I broke the mechanism on the rear shifter, and with the cassette and chain well worn and the chain rings gone, decided to change the drive train - am considering going 1x10 with a chain device, but haven't decided exactly what yet.

    Other stuff will be 2010 Float 140mm (been on the CC for a shortwhile but bought originally for the AC), Hope tech V2's (going to sell the Marta's), getting some new wheels built - will be Chris Kings and probably a Stans rim of some sort (going to sell my I9's). Got a RP23 BV for the rear. Stem, seat post is Thomson stuff coming over from the CC. Hope headset to facilitate fork changing and a CK BB.

    Colour - well will have to wait until I post up the frame! Will try and do that today....

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    What i9s are you getting rid off?

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    Nick-o-lai,

    your CC is a "L", right ? Is the AC a "L" too ?

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    Ian - they are straight pull hubs laced onto Arch rims. QR15 front, QR rear. Recently re-built and never ridden, so basically new (hubs in good nick)

    Testmaen - yes, that's right. All mine are large, fit me like a glove.

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    What colour?

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    The hubs/wheels? They are black. Spokes are black too, with two red ones either side of the valve holes.

    http://gallery.me.com/nalee#100162/P1010893

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    Pm me a price you want?

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    FYI:

    Just had a look at the 2011 spreadsheet of the Helius AC and some (minor) things have changed:

    - shock size: 200x57mm
    - travel: 154/142/132/122 mm

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    Also:

    The order-generator says, that the 29er AC is 2049 €, standard 26er is 1849 €.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testmaen
    FYI:

    Just had a look at the 2011 spreadsheet of the Helius AC and some (minor) things have changed:

    - shock size: 200x57mm
    - travel: 154/142/132/122 mm

    Is this the new link with "B" on it or something different?

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    That is about the AC, not the AM.

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    I was on about the AC.

    Nicolai-uk posted this on another post.Post 16

    Tank Girl Camo Helius AC

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    Hmm, ok, haven't seen this thread/post.

    Yeah, than this seems to be some kind of lever modification. I just noticed today surfing the N homepage, that there are some new tech-sheets and was rather surprised to see a new shock spec. for the AC.

    Haven't read about it on the German board, though. Maybe one of those "evolution, instead of revolution" modifications. Would have been nice though, to read it more "officially", instead of finding it deep, deep in the manual.

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    An Ac interests me ,Definitely with a longer stroke shock,Would only want 130ish travel but would like a coil,And i weigh 225lbs so longer stroke=lighter spring.
    I was surprised it wasn't specced with a 200x57 from the beginning.

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    Have you thought about the new Van RC ?

    It's a new coil-shock from Fox with rebound/compression adjustement only. Afaik also without pro-pedal. I think it's a nice option, if you don't want to go full-CCDB.


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    I have another CCDB sat in my living room

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    What fork are you considering ?

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    I already have it, Revelation 150mm,I have all the build kit.

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    Nice. Already set on the colour ?

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    Black ANO maybe a tint of Orange, But maybe not orange,Dont appear to be able to get X0 in orange anymore

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    Shame Fox discontinues the Van 32 series. At least it's not on their 2011 site. If they'd make it a 150mm, together with the Van RC that would make a reasonably light coil setup for bikes like the AC.

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    I had the old van 32r and didnt like it.
    The old Van rc shock was a good unit,had one on my Gemini.
    Was thinking if i dont like the Revelation/coil combination i might try a Marzocchi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    Dont appear to be able to get X0 in orange anymore
    Medium/Long cage ? 9 speed, right ?


    Short:
    http://bikeparts-online.de/bpo_new/s...=art&id=147726

    Medium:
    http://www.bike-components.de/produc...dell-2010.html

    http://bikeparts-online.de/bpo_new/s...=art&id=147725

    Long:
    http://bikeparts-online.de/bpo_new/s...=art&id=147722

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    Thanks.Dosent appear to be in the 2011 catalogue.

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    The changes for the AC I posted were wrong, there has been a mistake in that tech-sheet. It's correct now.

    - shock dimensions stay the same: 200x51mm
    - travel options: 141 / 129 / 119 / 111 mm

    All 4 lever holes can be used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testmaen
    The changes for the AC I posted were wrong, there has been a mistake in that tech-sheet. It's correct now.

    - shock dimensions stay the same: 200x51mm
    - travel options: 141 / 129 / 119 / 111 mm

    All 4 lever holes can be used.

    Awesome new spec... The 2011 is 0.3 degrees slacker in HA, while keeping the same seat angle which makes the bike even more stable and better descender. It doesn't sound like much, but that change alone makes the wheelbase 9mm longer.

    Also, the leverage is lower on the 2011. Being the max leverage 2.78:1 while the old was 2.87:1. The lowest is 2.19:1 and the 2010 was 2.36:1. Nice!!! Kind of a nightmare for installing a coil over, but the lower leverages will serve well for a wider array of riders.

    I was happy with the old one... but I'm like only 10 stones. I can live with higher leverages.
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    Warp- Why would this be a nightmare for a coil-over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    Warp- Why would this be a nightmare for a coil-over?
    Finding the right spring rate for the right hole you want.

    Sorry, I should have elaborated more as it reads as if the new leverages may be a problem, which it ain't the case. Sorry.

    Of course, if you don't mind much the travel but the feel, then it may be actually easier.
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    Ok,Thats what confused me,I think a CCDB would be nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    Ok,Thats what confused me,I think a CCDB would be nice.
    Sure... now that I have a couple rides on the Monarch, I still prefer the feel of a coil. It bobs a little, but the suspension action is simply unbelievable.

    Not that the Monarch is a dud. I did not noticed any significant bob on tarmac with it but over rough stuff it felt like... uh... an air shock. But it's well behaved at any rate.
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    Warp- Is your Monarch running the "E" tune?

    Whats the problem with it on the rough stuff and how much sag do you run,What size Air can

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    Warp- Is your Monarch running the "E" tune?

    Whats the problem with it on the rough stuff and how much sag do you run,What size Air can
    No, Sam... Mine is a "B" Tune. The E-Tune is not available in 2" (50.8mm) stroke which is the size I went with.

    I use it on the top hole which is the highest leverage available on my '10 AC. The B Tune is recommended for leverage ratios of about 2.5 to 2.8 on rising rate bikes like the AC. I run it in the 2.87 leverage hole (upper, longest travel).

    Not really any problem. It's just not a coil-over being less sensitive. I weigh 140pounds give or take according to amount of breakfast and water in camelbak, run 30% sag because I hate running less than 25% on ANY bike and I'm running the high volume air can.

    FG is set to a couple clicks from full open and I forgot about rebound.

    Don't get me wrong... I like the racey feel it has and in all honesty I have only a couple rides and it may still need some break in. The bikes pedals solidly even without any sort of lockout and I just noticed I had used quite some travel on tame trails because of the o-ring.

    I still have to run it in more aggro trails, though.
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    When i spoke to Karl Nicolai about a monarch rear shock he was very specific about "E" tune and standard size air can.
    If its using a lot of travel this could be because of the High volume can,You can reduce the volume on a monarch very easily with thin plastic by removing the oversize can and filling the space and then replacing oversize can ,I have seen genuine Rockshox rubber bands that do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    When i spoke to Karl Nicolai about a monarch rear shock he was very specific about "E" tune and standard size air can.
    If its using a lot of travel this could be because of the High volume can,You can reduce the volume on a monarch very easily with thin plastic by removing the oversize can and filling the space and then replacing oversize can ,I have seen genuine Rockshox rubber bands that do this.
    Not calling the man wrong, but the info from RS and their 2010 parts manual only have the D and E Tunes in 2.25 and 2.5 stroke. The 2" and smaller get the A, B and C tunes.

    I like how the bike it's using the travel. It doesn't wallow or squat. Maybe if I start riding harder, I'll reduce the air can to prevent bottom out. Karl also recommended a standard air can and I agree that it's much better for this bike and its intended use.

    Next step is breaking into the damper and touch the IFP pressure and shimming, but I ride so little as of late that I have not wanted to touch the shock for the moment.
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    Its the same in the Uk with the different tunes.Only available here with abc with larger can.
    I know what your saying about riding ,my Ion has been sat in the shed for 4 weeks and now its getting darker in the evenings and the weather is changing.

    I think the shim stack could be changed to provide the correct tune if you could buy the parts

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    To make confusion somewhat bigger, my re-posted changes were wrong again and the first changes "seem" to be right all along. For now.

    We had some interesting discussions an our German Nicolai the last days.

    Karl Nicolai personally cleared things up. The tech-sheet is correct now.

    There is a comprehensive pdf-document about the different alterations over the (short) life-span of the AC, eg. different levers etc. For now it's only in German. Link pdf. I hope you guys can open it, even if you aren't a forums-member.

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    Seems the new link is a "C" 146mm max travel using a 57mm shock.


    Cant open the link Testmaen.

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    @testmaen - unfortunately document link is not possible to open for not_members : (
    Would have been interesting to see that.

    In up-dated specs there is mentioned this new C-type umlenkhebel, but if those travels are really calculated using 57mm stroke, there`s really big change compared to older AC shock levers.
    Just wondering are these AC-frames compatible with older AC- levers or are there any other changes in levers structure than shaping and placement of holes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx
    @testmaen - unfortunately document link is not possible to open for not_members : (
    Would have been interesting to see that.

    In up-dated specs there is mentioned this new C-type umlenkhebel, but if those travels are really calculated using 57mm stroke, there`s really big change compared to older AC shock levers.
    Just wondering are these AC-frames compatible with older AC- levers or are there any other changes in levers structure than shaping and placement of holes?
    Please find attached said document. I had to downgrade quality in order to upload it to mtbr.

    Indeed, there's a big change compared to our (older) AC's. Leverages are dropped quite significantly and the bike will be better suited for average to heavier riders. Also, the interference issue with the top hole is eliminated. The head angle is a little slacker making the bike more stable.

    All good news, changes in the right direction. I wish I had waited to get all these changes into my bike, but I can't blame Nicolai for that and I'm happy about the continous evolution philosophy they have.

    I think the document does not cover all other changes on the bike, which should be nice to have... like the elimination of the second hole in the chainstays, the addition of zip-tie guides for the brake lines on the chainstays close to the bottom bracket, etc.

    Same question here? Are the new levers retrofittable to older AC's? I don't see any blockers not to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Please find attached said document. I had to downgrade quality in order to upload it to mtbr....
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    Same question here? Are the new levers retrofittable to older AC's? I don't see any blockers not to.
    Thanks Warp! Really interesting document, my Deutsch is rotten, but not so much...

    Generally those changes are the right movement from Nicolai, when AC goes slightly lighter and AM goes bigger. One year ago, when AC was still newborn, AC with A-levers and 57mm shock mounted in top hole (and fork with AC ~530mm) offered approx similar geo compared to AM with 51mm shock and 160mm fork...

    And that question I made are those new levers compatible with older frames was (in my case) only theorethical - Im not going to "downgrade" mine. If something is going to change, it will be the frame. And if it would be N-bike, then definately new AM...

    BTW - there are still at least one frame existing which is not fully A either full B - Ill suppose that my levers are labeled A (...have to check that ...) but top hole is not blocked

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    Thanks Warp for uploading the pdf-doc. I thought you guys could see that, like the pics I host at that forum. Well, I thought wrong.

    I haven't read the document completely, so I can't comment on the upgrade possibility yet. But I guess it's possible, since it's kind of a Nicolai policy, e.g. 216-levers for the AM.

    I report back, when I've read it.

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    The new "C"-lever can be retrofitted.

    The margin between getting 146mm of travel and not hitting the seattube with tire is slim, though. A rear-wheel diameter of 685mm, 690mm is not. Depends on the tire-rim-combo. I don't know what tires have high flanks and which not.

    It's written like that in the pdf-sheet. It's also written that tire-marks on the rear of the seattube are no reason for reclamation, since the owner is responsible for choosing the right tire-rim-combo and testing it with a collision test explained in tech-sheet-section.

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    What would happen if you ran a 200x57 on a "B" link in the second hole down,Would be pretty close to a "C" link in the upper hole

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    144mm, if I calculated correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testmaen
    144mm, if I calculated correctly.

    So people that have the "B" type link could run a 57mm shock in the 2nd hole.

    Did i see an AC running a 200x57 in the top hole,that must give you well over 150mm of travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testmaen
    The new "C"-lever can be retrofitted.
    Might as well get one. I already have a 50mm and 57mm shocks on hand.
    Decisions, decisions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Might as well get one. I already have a 50mm and 57mm shocks on hand.
    Decisions, decisions...
    Dont think i would bother if i had a "B" lever,run it in the next hole down and be happy with that,Its only 2mm travel difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    Dont think i would bother if i had a "B" lever,run it in the next hole down and be happy with that,Its only 2mm travel difference.
    Mine is an "A" with the plugged top hole. At any rate, the higher leverages fit better my meager weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Mine is an "A" with the plugged top hole. At any rate, the higher leverages fit better my meager weight.
    Could you not just drop it to the next hole down from where you run it now.It does depend if you are a heavier rider.

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    Nick-o-lai,

    have you built it up yet?

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    Testmaen - sorry, no not yet!

    Am waiting for some new parts and a new set of wheels (ordered, parts in, not built yet). Planning on going 10 speed so am just waiting to get hold of the X0 stuff, which I don't think will be until October.

    Will post up some frame pics on the weekend. Still haven't had a chance to take any yet.

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    Here is the spec on mine...

    Nicolai Helius AC - Setup Database



    Riding terrain conditions: Surrey Hills, Wales and Scotland trail centres, XC, Single Track and much more..

    * Rider info: Height 5ft11 Weight 12.6 stone.

    * Frame: Helius AC Medium in Kawagrun
    * Fork: Fox 32 Float 150mm Custom Kawagrun
    * Shock: Fox RP23
    * Brakes: 2011 XTR Race
    * Cranks: 2011 XTR Tripple
    * Shifters: 2011 XTR
    * Front Derailleur: 2011 XTR
    * Rear Derailleur: 2011 XTR
    * Cassette: 2011 XTR 10 Speed
    * Chain: 2011 XTR
    * Pedals: 2011 XTR SPD
    * Stem: Thompson 50mm
    * Handlebar: Easton EC70 MonkeyLite CNT XC Riser
    * Seatpost: Thompson layback
    * Saddle: SDG Bel Air RL Ti Rail
    * Bottom Bracket: Chris King Black
    * Headset: Chris King satin black
    * Grips: ODI X-Trainer Lock-On Lime green
    * Wheels etc: Roval Traverse EL Disc Wheelset
    * Front Tyre: Bontrager XR4 TLR Team Issue 26x2.2
    * Rear Tyre: Bontrager XR4 TLR Team Issue 26x2.2
    * Inner Tubes: Bontrager Race X Lite 26x1.90-2.125
    * Cables: Shimano XTR

    * Overall Weight: 12.4kg or 27.3lbs

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    http://www.head-for-the-hills.co.uk

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    I see a lot of different variations here in this thread, almost all of which I am unqualified to assess right now, but would take too long to test, let alone think about much.

    So as a shortcut to thinking much, what do people think of the "default" complete bikes offered on the Nicolai website? Any obvious stuff to avoid or upgrade? Or better off getting the frame and suspension and going from there yourself?

    EDIT: Forgot the link - http://www.nicolai.net/46-1-Helius+AC+kompl.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by tantrumizer
    I see a lot of different variations here in this thread, almost all of which I am unqualified to assess right now, but would take too long to test, let alone think about much.

    So as a shortcut to thinking much, what do people think of the "default" complete bikes offered on the Nicolai website? Any obvious stuff to avoid or upgrade? Or better off getting the frame and suspension and going from there yourself?

    EDIT: Forgot the link - http://www.nicolai.net/46-1-Helius+AC+kompl.html
    At 4K+ Euro, you'd be better off putting the bike together yourself, IMHO with your own choice of components.

    The complete bikes from Nicolai have solid specs (maybe a little weak at the wheels in the Pro and Elite versions) and I personally would go for the Hope version even when I prefer Magura brakes (for no other reason that I have been using Maguras for over 6yrs now) if I had that kind of money.

    You may see a lot of variation here, but the central theme is the same. A trailbike of ~150mm travel with a mix of sturdy and light parts. It comes down to personal preference.

    Some people put more emphasis on suspension, others in light weight, some prefer Rohloff drivetrains, etc.

    I personally think that the AC is a very versatile bike that is rather easy to build right. But you have to also consider that the average Nicolai rider is someone who has spent some time on other bikes and knows what he/she wants from the bike.
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    Complete bikes from nicolai are not available here in the uk qnd suspect further afield. hence they're all custom built.

    As warp says, I don't think they're hard to get right. Biggest decision would be coil or air and sturdy wheels versus light wheels.

    If it's a trail bike you're after I'd err on the side of sturdy as it'll be more fun.
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    To add some confusion I took delivery of my 2011 AC and it came with a "B" lever. This is a large frame and after the very helpful importer contacted Nicolai they stated that all 2011 take a 57mm stroke by Large and above have a "B" level and not a "C", good luck finding that on Nicolai's web site!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smh151
    To add some confusion I took delivery of my 2011 AC and it came with a "B" lever. This is a large frame and after the very helpful importer contacted Nicolai they stated that all 2011 take a 57mm stroke by Large and above have a "B" level and not a "C", good luck finding that on Nicolai's web site!
    Hi, The link below has been posted on here before by someone else and it clearly shows on the last page that the small and medium frames are fitted with 'C' type levers where the large and XL frames are fitted with 'B' type levers for 2011. Hope this helps.

    http://www.nicolai.net/files/federweg-he-ac-2011.pdf

    Hope this link works.

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    Unless it's a 29er in which case the small and large use a b and the medium uses a c!
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    "B " lever in second hole with a 57mm stroke will be close to a "C" in the top hole.

    Why have they done that

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    It's also nice that the small and large have 147mm and the medium and extra large have 146mm. I know its a millimeter so not important its more that they know this and publish it, well if you can find the document anyway. Not many manufactures do this but then they also make it far less confusing as well when ordering a frame and wondering if your shock will fit.

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    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc

    * Frame, Size, & Color:Large,Ano Black,with Red extras
    * Fork:Bos Deville 140mm
    * Shock, i2i, stroke,CCDB 200x57mm Ti spring
    * Brakes:Avid X0 Red--203mm front 183mm rear,with hope floating rotors
    * Cranks:Sram X0,2x10,26-39.175mm,Red
    * Shifters:Sram X0 2x10,red
    * Front Derailleur:XX 2sp,high clamp bottom pull
    * Rear Derailleur:X0 2x10.36
    * Pedals:xtr
    * Stem:Thomson 70mm
    * Handlebar:Truvativ Noir Carbon
    * Seatpost:Thomson Masterpiece
    * Saddle:SDG Bel-air TI
    * Bottom Bracket:Chris king Red
    * Cassette:XX 11-36
    * Chain:Sram 10sp hollow pin
    * Headset:Chris King red
    * Grips:Odo lock on,Ano red clamps
    * Front Tire:Nobby nic 2.25 tubeless
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:Mavic SX
    * Front Hub/Skewer:Mavic SX
    * Rear Tire:Nobby nic 2.25 tubeless
    * Rear Rim:Mavic SX
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:Mavic SX
    * Cables:Black
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:Just below 30lbs


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    - 22C in last week ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx
    - 22C in last week ...
    Sweet... how's the Van doing??
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    2 nice ac's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Sweet... how's the Van doing??
    VAN is ok. Have not yet had chance to test it in normal temps - allways less or more minus degrees. Changed oil to smoother ones. Perfect for winter conditions, at least that can I say.
    Like those angles now.

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    pergamonx - it looks really well thought out - when will we get a full ride report ?

    are they the carbon haven wheelset ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    pergamonx - it looks really well thought out - when will we get a full ride report ?

    are they the carbon haven wheelset ?
    Let`s see
    Wheelset are normal Havens, not carbon ones. Pick those because wanted one lighter set, other three wheelsets are all between 1900g - 2100g. Tyres are not ultralight ones, there`s FA 2,4 TLR Trailstar in front and NN 2,25 TLR Pacestar in rear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc

    * Frame, Size, & Color:Large,Ano Black,with Red extras
    * Fork:Bos Deville 140mm
    * Shock, i2i, stroke,CCDB 200x57mm Ti spring
    * Brakes:Avid X0 Red--203mm front 183mm rear,with hope floating rotors
    * Cranks:Sram X0,2x10,26-39.175mm,Red
    * Shifters:Sram X0 2x10,red
    * Front Derailleur:XX 2sp,high clamp bottom pull
    * Rear Derailleur:X0 2x10.36
    * Pedals:xtr
    * Stem:Thomson 70mm
    * Handlebar:Truvativ Noir Carbon
    * Seatpost:Thomson Masterpiece
    * Saddle:SDG Bel-air TI
    * Bottom Bracket:Chris king Red
    * Cassette:XX 11-36
    * Chain:Sram 10sp hollow pin
    * Headset:Chris King red
    * Grips:Odo lock on,Ano red clamps
    * Front Tire:Nobby nic 2.25 tubeless
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:Mavic SX
    * Front Hub/Skewer:Mavic SX
    * Rear Tire:Nobby nic 2.25 tubeless
    * Rear Rim:Mavic SX
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:Mavic SX
    * Cables:Black
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:Just below 30lbs

    NICE!

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    OK, I'll play too.

    * Rider 186cm, c. 87kg, ride style - don't know yet, this and that

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Large, Ano Black,with Red extra love and white decal
    * Fork: Fox 32 Float FIT 150mm RLC
    * Shock: DT Swiss XM 180
    * Brakes: Shimano SLX 180/180
    * Cranks: Hammerschmidt FR (24t)
    * Shifters: Sram X9 2x10
    * Front Derailleur: Must have fallen off somewhere
    * Rear Derailleur: Sram X9
    * Pedals: Kona Wah Wah
    * Stem: Trutativ Stylo
    * Handlebar: Trutativ Stylo
    * Seatpost: Rock Shox Reverb 420mm
    * Saddle: Selle Italia - el cheapo
    * Bottom Bracket: Hammerschmidt
    * Cassette: Shimano SLX 11-34
    * Chain: HG-X
    * Headset: Acros AH07 red
    * Grips: Ergon GA-1
    * Front Tire: Fat Albert Snake Skin
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Notubes Flow/DT Swiss Aerolite
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Shimano XTR
    * Rear Tire: Fat Albert Snake Skin
    * Rear Rim: Notubes Flow
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Shimano XTR with the axle from a Saint
    * Cables: ?
    * Misc: I didn't expect to be sent an FR Hammerschmidt (expected the AM), but I couldn't be bothered changing it in the end, due to the raft of logistical hassles it would present. Also, Hammerschmidt pimpkit in red.
    * Overall Weight: I don't know. I don't want to know. It would just make me want to change things.

    This is my first MTB. It's probably totally extravagant for a first bike, but I was swung by someone's signature saying life's too short to ride bad bikes. And why should I ride around my 1500 EUR Cube for 2 years, all the while waiting for my Nicolai? I happily admit I now have all the gear and no idea.

    I wanted a Nicolai, because it was something different (in looks, approach, being not made in Taiwan, no yearly model "updates"), they focus on MTBs, they are German and I like Germany, they have a reputation for durability and the reviews were good. And they can take a Hammerschmidt, the reason I first came across them.

    I wanted an AC because 90% of the time I'll be riding to and in my local hills (not too drastically steep up or terrifying down, 500 vertical metres max) and the rest of the time I'll take it to the Alps and ride lifts up.... and I wanted a single bike for that. I tried an AM and it felt like a smooth-rolling tank. Pretty cool, but probably not needed so much here.

    Being a first bike, I'll be useless for ride reporting, so I won't bother. Suffice to say, unlike all the other bikes I've ridden (from friends, demos or hire), it's the only one that really felt like "my bike". I'm happy.

    The purchase process was frankly a bit of a nightmare. I'm not sure I would buy another Nicolai. I'll have to at least wait until I've forgotten about it.

    Here's a pic from the first ride. Friendly advice welcome on obvious setup mistakes. I asked an LBS to build it and maybe they've missed something. We have to do some work on the cabling soon (shorten brake cables and reroute a couple with some different cable guides).
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    Finally Got a Shot of my AC

    Looks bigger in the picture than it really is, although it is a large.

    Nicolai Helius AC - Setup Database-scaled_bike.jpg

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    smh151 - whats the weight please

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    Not taken it to the shop yet to use their hook thingy and have no scales at home, based on previous bike though I'd say north of 28 lbs. I prefer that nothing breaks though.

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    Very nice but i would think about 29lbs

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    * Rider info: Height 5ft10 Weight 13.6 stone.

    * Frame: Helius AC Medium in white
    * Fork: DT Swiss EXM 150
    * Shock: Fox RP23 BV
    * Brakes: Magura Louise Carbon 180f/160r
    * Cranks: Race Face with 38t chainring
    * Shifters: Rohloff
    * Front Chainguide: Rohloff
    * Rear Derailleur: Rohloff
    * Cassette: NA
    * Chain: SRAM PC1
    * Pedals: XT SPD
    * Stem: Thompson 70mm
    * Handlebar: Easton EA70
    * Seatpost: Gravity Dropper
    * Saddle: SDG Bel Air RL Rail
    * Bottom Bracket: Chris King Black
    * Headset: Chris King Steel Inset
    * Grips: ODI Lock-On
    * Wheels Front: Mavic 819UST on Hope Pro II
    * Wheels Rear: Mavic 819UST on Rohloff
    * Front Tyre: Schwalbe Nobby Nic 26x2.25
    * Rear Tyre: Schwalbe Racing Ralph 26x2.25
    * Cables: Shimano XTR

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    Quote Originally Posted by pergamonx View Post
    AC-height 545-555 has already tested and will be no problem - geo is even better compared to existing 535mm measured height and rear suspension is CCDB with 57 mm stroke and top hole in use, if someone miss this information...
    Sorry if I didn't get this,
    does this mean I could use a Lyric RC2L Coil U-Turn in an AC?
    (545 +/-5 vs 530mm)
    Anyone using this setup in the mountains?

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    My new AC 29er (2013 spec).



    Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc: 6ft 2", 80kg rides pretty much everything in Scotland......XC, trail, Mountains, wee hucks.

    * Frame, Size, & Color: Large Ano Black
    * Fork: Fox 34 Float
    * Shock, i2i, stroke: Fox Float R 200x57
    * Brakes: Formula RX 180/160
    * Cranks: Hammerschmidt
    * Shifters: XO / XT
    * Front Derailleur: None
    * Rear Derailleur: Saint Short Cage
    * Pedals: Deore Trail
    * Stem: Easton Havoc 35mm
    * Handlebar: Easton Havoc 35mm Carbon 800mm
    * Seatpost: Reverb
    * Saddle: SDG
    * Bottom Bracket: Truvative
    * Cassette: XT 34t
    * Chain: Connex
    * Headset: Hope
    * Grips: Lizard Skins Lock-Ons
    * Front Tire: 2.4 Ardent
    * Front Rim/ Spokes: Easton Haven alu
    * Front Hub/Skewer: Easton
    * Rear Tire: 2.4 Ardent
    * Rear Rim: Easton Haven alu
    * Rear Hub/Skewer: Easton
    * Cables: Shimano
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: 32.04lbs

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    Very nice.And stealth looking.

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    Looks really good in the metal too.

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    sweet :-) I have one kinda similar ;-) You like it I hope :-)
    Aka chainline...

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    It's early days but yeah I like it.....a lot

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    Looking for a new frame to replace my Devinci Dixon. Hopefully a large Helius AC would build up around the same weight as my large Dixon (31.15 lbs) with a tough build.

    Has anyone out there weighed a large 2013 Helius frame with shock etc yet?

    Is the Nicolai bushing system very durable for up here in NE Scotland? My last bike with bushings (Banshee Spitfire) had mega issues with it's bushing system which wore out very quickly and wore into the frame.

    Looks like the perfect machine for the mud, rain and rocks of Aberdeenshire!

    Be very interested in size large build weights and opinions on durability of the 2013 models.

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    Scarlet, have you been in touch with gravity sports ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks View Post
    Scarlet, have you been in touch with gravity sports ?
    Thanks Lecht, I just had an email conversation with Gravity sports and they made an excellent offer for the frame only option. Think I am going to go for it, looks like a stunning bike for up here!

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    I have heard there may be a Custom AC/AM29 frame/shock and forks available in May 2013, Now that the Ion29 has been signed off....
    Aka chainline...

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    Riding terrain conditions:Rocks/roots/steep/Xc/Trails,

    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC, endurance,trail, hucker etc

    * Frame, Size, & Color:AC 650b Pinion
    * Fork:Revelation 650b RCT3
    * Shock, i2i, stroke. Rockshox Monarch RCT3 plus
    * Brakes:Avid XO Trail, 200mm front,180mm rear
    * Cranks:Pinion
    * Shifters:Pinion
    * Front Derailleur:
    * Rear Derailleur:
    * Pedals:XTR M980
    * Stem:Truvativ T40 75mm black
    * Handlebar:Bontrager Carbon Rhythym 750mm,15mm rise
    * Seatpost:Rockshox Reverb Stealth,Rh Shifter(running under bars LH)
    * Saddle:Sdg Ti
    * Bottom Bracket:Pinion
    * Cassette:Pinion
    * Chain:Sram PC 1091r
    * Headset:Reset Racing
    * Grips:ESI chunky
    * Front Tire:Nobby Nic 2.35x650b
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:Bor 1388
    * Front Hub/Skewer:Bor 1388
    * Rear Tire:Nobby Nic 2.35x650b
    * Rear Rim:Bor 1388
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:Bor1388
    * Cables:Sram,
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight: 32.5lbs
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    * Rider height, weight, ride style e.g XC and Trail. 6ft 1"

    * Frame, Size, & Color:AC 650b Large, Ano black and red extras
    * Fork:Revelation 150mm RC3
    * Shock, i2i, stroke 215x63mm Rockshox Monarch RC3 Plus
    * Brakes:X0 Trail
    * Cranks:XO 2x10 26/39
    * Shifters:X0
    * Front Derailleur:X0
    * Rear Derailleur:X0 type 2
    * Pedals:Xtr
    * Stem:Truvativ T40 75mm
    * Handlebar:Bonrager Carbon 750mm
    * Seatpost:Reverb
    * Saddle:SDG
    * Bottom Bracket:Chris King
    * Cassette:Sram PG 1070
    * Chain:Sram 1070
    * Headset:Reset
    * Grips:ESI chunky
    * Front Tire:Nobby Nic 2.35
    * Front Rim/ Spokes:Stans Flow EX
    * Front Hub/Skewer:Bor MD7
    * Rear Tire:Nobby Nic 2.35
    * Rear Rim:Flow EX
    * Rear Hub/Skewer:Bor MD7
    * Cables:Jagwire
    * Misc:
    * Overall Weight:29.8lbs

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    Pikes finally arrived.

    26", front mech and granny ring. Perfect for the mountains of northern Scotland.
    Nicolai Helius AC - Setup Database-101_3373.jpg

    31.15lbs

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