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    Good job! Meet my new Girl.......

    Being injured with a broken arm and in a cast, getting the Helius AM29er finished is going to be slower than I would have liked...

    The frame is on its way.......

    Nicolai have given me a few shots of the AM29er frame, so without further ado, please meet my new girl, the Nicolai Helius AM29er.......

    Build spec thus far......

    Frame: Helius AM29er Custom (Helius AFR rear end)
    Fork: 150mm White Bros (will change very soon)
    Shock: RS Vivid Air
    Headset: Cane Creek Angle Set
    Wheels: Enve AM rims, Hadley hubs, Sapium bladed spokes
    Crankset: RF Sixc dual (will run as a single ring up front)

    Still working on other bits n bobs to finalize...









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    Outstanding!

    I was wondering what the seat tube/BB junction was going to look like. I think I am set on the Enve and Sixc myself. Not so sure about the CC angle set, but I will probably go that way or the 110.

    Wow, she is a beauty. Can't wait to see her all done up!
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    Its interesting to look closely at the AM tubing AFR rear on the AM29er up against the rear end of an AFR (thanks SowX, using your frame)
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    Very cool Whafe, the frame makes great sense. Colors are nice aswell.

    It can probably make your arm heal just a little bit quicker!

    How tall are you? 6feet2?

    You should have gone for the Dorado though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikael_nr1
    Very cool Whafe, the frame makes great sense. Colors are nice aswell.

    It can probably make your arm heal just a little bit quicker!

    How tall are you? 6feet2?

    You should have gone for the Dorado though!

    Cheers / Mike
    Thanks Mike, am slightly taller than 6 feet 2, closer to 6 feet 4...

    Going with the Dorado is not out of the question. I have gone with the CC Angle Set so as with more forks coming out for 29ers, it will enable changes etc to be made. So the 150mm White Bros is only to start out with.

    So time will tell.... I am totally going into this knowing it is not going to be sorted first build, it will take some time....

    I have no doubt that Fox & RS must have a long travel single crown fork coming in the next 12 - 18 months.....
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    Very slick - whats the travel on that thing going to be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karve
    Very slick - whats the travel on that thing going to be?
    Hi ya Karve, travel will be 150mm in the rear......
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    150mm of travel is damned good considering chainstays are relatively short and 29er tires on that.

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    Wow... been following this thread for a while now and it was so worth it. She is gorgeous!

    Quick question for you, what's the rear shock eye-eye/stroke?

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    Stunning. Sorry to hear about your arm hopefully you'll be up and running soon. Have to admit when I broke my wrist last summer I kept riding ;o)

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    Bummer about the arm what happened?

    At least you have that beauty to build up and drool over till you heal up, very nice! Is it front der compatable?

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    Frame looks fantastic !
    Hope Nicolai ads it to their lineup permanently like Helius AC 29er.

    But, but......no crosspost to 29er forum !?

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    Well...fvck a duck! That looks damned sweet. I can't wait to ride it.

    WTF did you do to your arm? Should be healed in time for Whistler this year, no?
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    Whafe, looks real good.
    Was it at your request that they made the shock shuttle adjustable, like the older style Nics? Does this mean you can run different i2i shocks?

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    Very nice. Look forward to seeing it built.

    What are the colours?

    Get well soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini73
    Wow... been following this thread for a while now and it was so worth it. She is gorgeous!

    Quick question for you, what's the rear shock eye-eye/stroke?
    Gem - thanks for the comments..

    Shock measurements
    Eye to Eye: 216mm (8,5")
    Stroke: 63mm (2,5")
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikael_nr1
    150mm of travel is damned good considering chainstays are relatively short and 29er tires on that.
    Yep, agree, this was the pivotal part for me Mike, shortening the chainstays, as I may have mentioned, this was doable by building the AFR type rear, of which allowed us to do this... A negative to some though, is the fact that cannot run a front der, well you can, but travel would be reduced to 120mm...

    @ 1x10 though, can be pretty versatile, I am not concerned with not having a front der.... I also got it so as I could if needed run a Hammer S, but for me, awesome kit, but not for me now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugtree
    Stunning. Sorry to hear about your arm hopefully you'll be up and running soon. Have to admit when I broke my wrist last summer I kept riding ;o)
    Yeah, pain about my arm big time. The cast is almost up to my shoulder, so pretty hard to do much... Dont worry, I will try...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Bummer about the arm what happened?

    At least you have that beauty to build up and drool over till you heal up, very nice! Is it front der compatable?
    Hi ya Bro

    Simple crash, had finished our ride, of which was a gooden too... (see pics in the January Nicolai in action thread) Chatted to some buddies at the trail head, as I was riding to my car, all of 40 M's from where we were chatting, I went over the bars, down onto the gravel carpark, hit the ground with my wrist, of which was ok, but not the bone below my elbow....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Yeah, pain about my arm big time. The cast is almost up to my shoulder, so pretty hard to do much... Dont worry, I will try...
    You can still grip with your hand,Get out and ride
    Arm is set in an agressive riding position,should be fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ojos Azules
    Frame looks fantastic !
    Hope Nicolai ads it to their lineup permanently like Helius AC 29er.

    But, but......no crosspost to 29er forum !?
    yeah thanks for the comments, was stoked that in the end my Helius AC 29er made it into the Nicolai lineup permanently.... Have to say, the AC29er is still my most favorite bike, the one I would choose if I could only have one......

    I better cross post something to the 29er Forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by geolover
    Well...fvck a duck! That looks damned sweet. I can't wait to ride it.

    WTF did you do to your arm? Should be healed in time for Whistler this year, no?
    I prefer sheep, you so already know that !!!!!

    You will ride it at some stage for sure... Dam arm... Not sure if Whistler will be this year or next, but defiantly soon. We are keen to get my main crew in NZ whom have not ridden whizzer to get there.. I miss the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm100
    Was it at your request that they made the shock shuttle adjustable, like the older style Nics? Does this mean you can run different i2i shocks?
    Yeah, want to make things as flexible as can be, hence the ability to change angles along with a 1.5 H tube so as can change angles as better single crown forks become available...
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    Quote Originally Posted by loamranger
    Very nice. Look forward to seeing it built.

    What are the colours?

    Get well soon.
    I too am dam excited to see this built.

    Colours are the Nicolai Gates Team colours for 2010... Gates Nicolai Team
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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    You can still grip with your hand,Get out and ride
    Arm is set in an agressive riding position,should be fine
    Am amping to ride, will try a little something for sure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    I prefer sheep, you so already know that !!!!!

    You will ride it at some stage for sure... Dam arm... Not sure if Whistler will be this year or next, but defiantly soon. We are keen to get my main crew in NZ whom have not ridden whizzer to get there.. I miss the place.
    Let me know about Whistler,Definetely if next year,would love to ge there riding again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    Let me know about Whistler,Definetely if next year,would love to ge there riding again.
    Will do on that one for sure... Am 99% sure that would go again during Crankworx, best time I reckon...
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    Looks great Whafe! I can't wait to see her built up & ready to give'r!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    Looks great Whafe! I can't wait to see her built up & ready to give'r!

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    Me neither JNC, am stoked, have been waiting for months ever so patiently... And then the arm break, so have to be even more patient... LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Yep, agree, this was the pivotal part for me Mike, shortening the chainstays, as I may have mentioned, this was doable by building the AFR type rear, of which allowed us to do this... A negative to some though, is the fact that cannot run a front der, well you can, but travel would be reduced to 120mm...

    @ 1x10 though, can be pretty versatile, I am not concerned with not having a front der.... I also got it so as I could if needed run a Hammer S, but for me, awesome kit, but not for me now...
    The bike looks great.
    It still perplexes me why Lenz is the only builder that manages to combine short stays, long travel, and a front der and still fit the 29" wheels in the chassis. Maybe he's made a deal with the devil or something, but no one else seems to be able to accomplish this.
    Still not sold on long travel 29ers, but then again I have not ridden that many, as not many exist. The fork is still the big gaping hole in the equation.

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    Very good point re the Lenz frames, I at this point really dont think the target market for a long travel 29er is there as yet, but do fully feel it is expanding...

    My love for 29ers is nothing to do with being a convert etc and pushing it hard for all to ride a 29er, there is pros & cons to all. However for my riding in the main, a 29er suits me great, am 6'4" so I like the feel that a bike fits me better (i said feel!) along with it looking more normal in size to my height

    At first the team at Nicolai said it couldnt be done, well it could, but the chainstays would be to long, also the fact that I like a full length seat post tube... So hence then the idea to put an AFR rear on this bike...

    Could go on and on...

    But agree that the fork selection in for sure an issue. But deep down in my guts, I feel that Fox, RS must well be close with some longer travel 29er single crown forks... I too am willing to have a fork that is maybe not as great as a modern Fox or RS fork. Mikesee seems to go hard on a White Bros 150mm fork, so I feel I will not be held back, but I will be able to adapt to the new forks when they come..

    It is still not at all out of the question to run a Dorado fork, but am still shy as I think the weight will be to much for this to be ridden as an all day type bike... In the world of Nicolai bikes, I want this bike to replace and be as capable as a Helius FR / Helius AM crossed with a Helius AFR...


    Quote Originally Posted by morandi
    The bike looks great.
    It still perplexes me why Lenz is the only builder that manages to combine short stays, long travel, and a front der and still fit the 29" wheels in the chassis. Maybe he's made a deal with the devil or something, but no one else seems to be able to accomplish this.
    Still not sold on long travel 29ers, but then again I have not ridden that many, as not many exist. The fork is still the big gaping hole in the equation.
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    looks great whafe. classy colours. really like the way the decals are applied as well. may have to do that to my AC29er at some point.

    cant you get some supension guru to redo the internals of your chosen fork or even fit a new damping cart. i'm sure the chassis will be decent enough and it may be possible to retro fit a 26er cart from a higher spec fork
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    Quote Originally Posted by dipper
    looks great whafe. classy colours. really like the way the decals are applied as well. may have to do that to my AC29er at some point.

    cant you get some supension guru to redo the internals of your chosen fork or even fit a new damping cart. i'm sure the chassis will be decent enough and it may be possible to retro fit a 26er cart from a higher spec fork
    Yeah, go with the same decals on your AC29er, think it looks sick....

    Yeah that is an option to install some other internals. I am prepared to have a fork that is not on a par with say my 2010 Lyric... Am not saying that so as am not disappointed, just know that I am not going to have a great fork first up... Realistically, just dont feel the Dorado is light enough for what am trying to build..

    Speak up if I am dreaming and it could well be light enough for my needs, the Dorado that is
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    dipper - Have a mate whom knows the Bos guys well asking them to build me a 29er single crown fork, now with you working closely with Bos, you too can hit them up

    Thanks in advance
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    Fentoon serves up another masterpiece.

    Your pimp hand is strong my friend!

    I'm sure a worthy fork for that beastie...is right around the corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    yeah thanks for the comments, was stoked that in the end my Helius AC 29er made it into the Nicolai lineup permanently.... Have to say, the AC29er is still my most favorite bike, the one I would choose if I could only have one......

    I better cross post something to the 29er Forum
    I'm seriously considering getting Helius AC29 too, especially now that Niner skyrocketed their prices for European market.
    AC29 with standard geometry is now 400 EUROS CHEAPER then Rip9, hell,
    even full custom AC29 is 100 euros cheaper - and you getting superb build and ride quality + 5 year warranty on top.

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    That's a great looking frame Whafe! Sorry to hear about the arm, heal up fast dude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Err
    That's a great looking frame Whafe! Sorry to hear about the arm, heal up fast dude!
    Hi ya Bro, hope all is well. Thinking you will have some sick powder at present for boarding... Arm is healing well I think, itchy as in the cast, you know that feeling when you want to scratch ***** out of it....

    Looking forward to getting her built up....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ojos Azules
    I'm seriously considering getting Helius AC29 too, especially now that Niner skyrocketed their prices for European market.
    AC29 with standard geometry is now 400 EUROS CHEAPER then Rip9, hell,
    even full custom AC29 is 100 euros cheaper - and you getting superb build and ride quality + 5 year warranty on top.
    I hadnt really looked at the price differences with Niner in Europe, that is a significant difference though..

    My main riding buddy rides Niners here in NZ, his RIP 9 has taken a good beating, a great frame and bike for sure....

    Both great frames, but naturally I would swing more to Nicolai
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    Holy shizzle!!!

    That's a hot bike, there. As said, classy colours, good numbers. etc.

    Can you run an E-Type FD should you want to go double rings? I think you can but you'd have to sacrifice whatever ISCG thingie you want to run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Holy shizzle!!!

    That's a hot bike, there. As said, classy colours, good numbers. etc.

    Can you run an E-Type FD should you want to go double rings? I think you can but you'd have to sacrifice whatever ISCG thingie you want to run.

    Congratulations! Astonishing! Now with prototype BOS stuff??? Ubersweet...
    Will be able to run a front der, but travel will be reduced by around 30mm to 120mm...... This puppy is built for 1 x 10...

    No Bos stuff, here is hoping though.... Hint hint hint, then some more hints...
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    Whafe,You wont like the Bos stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam
    Whafe,You wont like the Bos stuff
    Yep, am hating it already....
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    This is the build spec I have sorted thus far, am getting there....

    Race Face Sixc cranks
    Chromag black QR seat clamp
    Chromag black 32t chain-ring
    Enve Carbon DH Bar
    Rock Shox Vivid rear shock
    Thomson Masterpiece seat-post
    Straitline Silent guide
    Spare set of BLUE silent guides
    ENVE rims laced to Hadley hubs, Sapim CX Ray spokes
    Easton Haven Stem 55mm
    Formula The One’s
    Cane Creek Angle Set
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    Hey Whafe, great looking frame! I'm looking forward seeing it build up.

    Sorry to hear about your arm, hope it heels up quick!

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    Have to do a shout-out to that cool dude at my LBS = BARN

    Dont say it lightly, or for the sake of it, Chad has been awesome to deal with yet again, he was a star with my AC29er, yet again he is rocking it... On the other side of the world to me, but he is my LBS..... Thanks Chad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testmaen
    Hey Whafe, great looking frame! I'm looking forward seeing it build up.

    Sorry to hear about your arm, hope it heels up quick!
    Thanks Testmaen, am stoked and looking forward to it also... Will be a few weeks, but it will happen... Time is slow being on a weeks leave and having an arm in a cast, back to work Monday, so time will fly...
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    Well done Whafe. It looks great and the numbers are pretty near perfect for the class of bike IMO.

    I am certain it will quickly replace your current Nicolai as your favorite. It just looks dialed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Well done Whafe. It looks great and the numbers are pretty near perfect for the class of bike IMO.

    I am certain it will quickly replace your current Nicolai as your favorite. It just looks dialed.
    Thanks Enel, yep, it is always cool to be able to put the numbers together for a purpose, I feel I am there with the geo, but have also future proofed it for want of a better word... As more forks are released, angles will be able to be refined etc...

    I too feel it will become a favorite. Will take a fair bit to knock the Helius AC29er of its perch, this may well....
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    Very nice, the decal and color shall be the team colours and graphic right?

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