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    next week it will be finished , Ill show pics

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    they forgot to send me the pm inserts, but I had some from an Ikea cupboard, they work too LOL

    sorry I didn't mention the threaded inserts, I kinda figured that was self-explanatory...

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    Quote Originally Posted by raschaa View Post
    they forgot to send me the pm inserts, but I had some from an Ikea cupboard, they work too LOL

    sorry I didn't mention the threaded inserts, I kinda figured that was self-explanatory...
    Hmmm, good to know. I have another bike brand (Turner) that use the PM inserts. Guess I'll play it safe and order a set from them just in case. Can always save them for the 5Spot if I get them with the ION16.

    xixo one, your frame looks great!! Great choice of the raw and blue, very sharp!!
    Look forward to seeing it built and both of your impressions on rear shock choices.

    Cheers
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    on another note...

    the clamp for the front derailleur seriously disappointed me, uuuuuugly and not worthy of being mounted on a N frame... took half an hour to transform it into "acceptable".



    I can recommend routing the rear brake hose through the horst link:



    I couldnt' get a clean routing because the PM mount is so wide in comparison to an adapter that the fitting wouldn't clear the mount without having to go up-and-over...

    got a 2 hour ride in yesterday during a sunny patch at round about freezing... nothing spectacular because I'm still having problems with my meniscus after a bouldering incident back in december

    although I've done no training the past 4 months I was astonished how well Ion + I mastered the climbs, so I'll give that to the bike... rear felt plenty stiff when mashing the pedals and bob was almost non-existent. It does feel pretty slack with the "low" setting and 170 Lyrik, will flip it to "high" next round for comparison. On a ca. 500m stretch with lots of roots, some of them arm-thick, the rear felt nice, not cushy soft, just well damped and controlled, taking enough of the hits to let me stay seated (post fully extended) and pedaling, BB height was not an issue...

    hope to get in some serious trail riding with airtime soon
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    ... and if we just ... Ion 16 slack.................

    Ion 16 Breaks Cover-image.jpgHere's mine at last , all built up but no chance of riding as everywhere is covered in snow.

    The low stack height is very alien to me at the moment, I'm so used to a much higher bar height, but we will see how things are when I can get out for a ride.

    It looks like I'm the only one who hasn't gone for the raw effect.

    Ion 16 Breaks Cover-ion-16-right.jpgIon 16 Breaks Cover-ion-16-left.jpg

    I measured the fork angle with my iphone (which is accurate enough) and very slack ........ at 63.5 ( un weighted) in 'low' setting, this is with a 170 lyric and Hans Damf up front and Conti RQ 2.2 at the rear.

    Below is my spec:


    • Rider height, weight, ride style: 5ft 11inch, 90kg, All Mountain, XC, DH, Freeride.
    • Frame, Size & Colour:, Gloss White & Anodised Black, Zero Stack Tapered Headtube, 12mm Rear Axle
    • Fork: RS Lyric 170 DH Solo Air
    • Shock: Cane Creek DB Air, 216mm i2i, 63mm stroke
    • Brakes: Formula R0 F&R, 203mm front, 185mm rear
    • Cranks: Sram X9 with MRP 28T Bling Ring
    • Shifters: Shimano XT
    • Rear Deraileur: Shimano Zee (short cage)
    • Pedals: DMR Vault
    • Stem: Renthal Duo
    • Handlebar: Easton Haven Carbon
    • Seatpost: RS Stealth Reverb
    • Seatclamp: Hope QR
    • Saddle: FiZik Gobi
    • Bottom Bracket: Hope Stainless
    • Cassette: Shimano 36-11XT
    • Chain: KMC Gold
    • Headset: Hope
    • Grips: Renthal Super Soft Lock On
    • Front Tyre: Continental 2.2 Rubber Queen or Schwable 2.35 Hans Dampf (running tubeless)
    • Front Rim/Spokes: Mavic Crossmax SX
    • Rear Tyre: Continental 2.2 Rubber Queen Queen or Schwable 2.35 Hans Dampf (running tubeless)
    • Rear Rim/Spokes: Mavic Crossmax SX
    • Misc: MRP Micro G2 chain device, helicopter taped in specific zones


    Bathroom scales weight = 13kg (which i think must be incorrect)
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    sloanranger,

    Build looks great, love the seatstays!

    Could you explain on how to set "high and low"? I.E. what is the position of the bolt/nut for high and low?

    Cheers,
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    Ion 16 Breaks Cover-ion-16-instruction.jpg
    Quote Originally Posted by jjkitt View Post
    sloanranger,

    Build looks great, love the seatstays!

    Could you explain on how to set "high and low"? I.E. what is the position of the bolt/nut for high and low?

    Cheers,

    Nicolai Instructions enclosed:

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    Sloanranger,

    Thanks for posting. Sent you a PM.

    Cheers,
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    here you got , now 13950gr , but finally it will be 13900gr in a few days , with

    Marzocchi 55 rc3 evo v2 ti
    Monarch rt3
    Hope m4 brakes
    Carbon handlebar
    xtr transmission
    sixc crankset
    ztr flow+ti spokes+ dt240s wheels
    Minion front
    Ignitor rear
    Reverb stealth
    Selle Italia slr xc flow
    size M

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    That looks mint, sloanranger - it might have made my colour decision for me - I have Crossmax SX and Devilles on my Spicy to transfer over, white front triangle and black rear end was what I had in mind.

    Is that decal setup custom, or do they include extra decals in the box?

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    well, finally got in 4 hrs of serious trail bangin'... still have the smile on my face

    performance in the rear was awesome, felt bottomless (x-fusion vector hlr air), very controlled midstroke when hammering berms and pumping the roots and rocks, no noticable flex and had 2-3 mm shock stroke in reserve... got courageous and started hitting the 2 sections of trail that would justify using a dh bike at the same speed I would on my Ion20... WOW, that worked really well, of course not as stable and quite a bit heavier on the "bodywork" end of matters, but very composed and fast. it's matching my lyrik rc2dh very nicely and when I get more time on the new shock to find my setup, I'l probably have to do some tweaking of the fork^^

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    Hi guys, a video of last Monday with my new Ion 16



    720p is available on choice

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    Are there any more reviews on how the bike rides? I try to read the German forums but google translate isn't too helpful and I can only make out problems with fitting shimano front mechs.

    Not many ride reports about and I'm having second thoughts and thinking of cancelling my order as all I read is problems. :S

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    which problems? my shimano slx mech fits perfect... german mtb-news forum is lacking ride reports as well, nobody (besides myself) has posted anything beyond "wow", "excellent" etc etc.

    I'm not a heavy pedaler and doing the uphill is just a means for hitting the down in my case. I have no real comparison for uphill performance, but I met up with one guy from the german forum to let him test ride mine. he had a trek slash and ordered an ion16 right after riding mine, he was blazing fast on the up (I felt like I was going backwards ) and did a good job going down and said it was loads better than his slash up and down.

    I recently did an all day shuttle assisted 8 runs on one of my favorite trails and have to say the dh performance is immaculate. it has a totally solid and reassuring feel that makes you want to go faster and faster, I was really blown away by the speed at which I could hit really gnarly sections and yet it still is flickable and nimble in the techy stuff.

    german "world of mtb" magazine tested 14 enduro bikes in their latest issue and the ion 16 was deemed the ""testcrews favorite". their only gripe was that they felt it could have a slightly steeper seat angle. if you are desperate I could translate a synopsis for you but you'd have to give me a few days because I've got other things to do (like riding my ion16^^)...

    I figure that the Ion16 is pretty much a enduro racers dream, maybe not the best on the climb but whoa, going down it's gonna be hard to beat.

    yet another of my 2 cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by raschaa View Post
    which problems? my shimano slx mech fits perfect...
    On my Helius AM - model before the chainstay direct mount - I had to dremel out a corner of SLX short cage front derailleur to fit it properly. Long cage would not fit. I think they design it around SRAM. Not a big deal - most long travel bikes with front derailleur have some fitment issues. We do not hear about them a lot as most bikes are sold as completes, with an appropriate part already installed.

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    Its true , on my ion 16 the xtr front derailleaur does not work fine , I use a 24/36 sixc crankset with a xtr derailleur and I cant adjust correct the chain with the 24 chainring , I tried differen combinations of spacers on the cranks and at this moment with the 24t the chain touch the derailleaur , Im waiting for a response from Nicolai about it and I hope adjust the chain as soon as possible, on vid of last Monday with my ion.


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    yes, they do design around sram mech. that was recently confirmed by Vinc of N in mtb-news.de forum... I really don't see the problem either and others I know nothing of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalla View Post
    Are there any more reviews on how the bike rides? I try to read the German forums but google translate isn't too helpful and I can only make out problems with fitting shimano front mechs.

    Not many ride reports about and I'm having second thoughts and thinking of cancelling my order as all I read is problems. :S
    I have managed to ride mine about a dozen times and i have no negatives to report, i run a 1 x 10 setup so dont have any issues with drivetrain.

    So far i would say it climbs exceptionaly well for me as my previous bike was a Helius AFR which has a very slack seat angle which puts your weight over the back. The downhill qualities are superb, again campairing to my AFR i would say it is better, this must be due to the head angle of 63.5 in low setting with a lyric 170.

    My only issue at the moment is the crap monarch rear shock which is a temp solution whilst i wait for my Canecreek DB Air. But even with this lame shock it climbs and decends exceptionaly well.

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    Thanks for the replies guys, certainly put my mind at ease. I guess I was getting attracted to all these new bikes being released and the 650b craze and wondering if i made the right decision.

    But I still think the Ion 16 is what I'm after, something that has amazing downhill performance, but can still be ridden uphill, and looking at your reports it certainly seems to be the case.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalla View Post
    .... something that has amazing downhill performance, but can still be ridden uphill ....
    OH Yes! you will be impressed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalla View Post
    Thanks for the replies guys, certainly put my mind at ease. I guess I was getting attracted to all these new bikes being released and the 650b craze and wondering if i made the right decision.

    But I still think the Ion 16 is what I'm after, something that has amazing downhill performance, but can still be ridden uphill, and looking at your reports it certainly seems to be the case.

    Cheers
    people of Nicolai said that this year will be an Ion16 650b

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    Was told my ION16 will start production this Monday, with a early June delivery. Getting pretty stoked!!

    How is everyone liking their built ION16s? Any lessons learned, build/kit items your really glad put on, things you wouldn't recommend, etc...?

    Cheers,
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    Sorry, made double post.
    Cheers,
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    Had to cancel mine due to wife getting unexpectedly pregnant
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    If it makes you guys feel any better I ordered my Helius AC Pinion in December, was told it would be here in February. Still waiting. I'm looking forward to it though.

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