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    If I procured a Nicolai frame at a discount...

    I like the sound of the Nicolai bikes, for various reasons. I am looking for a place to test-ride one soon (I live in Switzerland).

    I contacted the former distributor of Nicolai here, not sure that he was still the distributor. Turns out they have a new distributor as of last October.

    He still has some frames I might be interested in and is willing to offload them at 25% off. However, I have zero ability or only slightly above zero interest in building a bike from a frame up, and would only like to specify a few of the components myself, being happy for someone else to give recommendations for the others.

    Could I give the frame to Nicolai Germany to finish off? Not sure why they would, except to support their former business partner. I'm not sure the new dealer/distributor would be keen to help either, given they're missing out on a sale of their own. But the instant gratification (could have a frame tomorrow) and the decent discount are both appealing. The Nicolai catalogue says the suspension should be tuned to the bike, so I would (presumably) need some help from someone expert in this to help right?

    What do you think?

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    Why not buy the frame and get your local bike shop to build it? Buy some stuff from them and I'm sure they'd be happy to do it.

    Tuning the suspension to suit could be as simple as setting the sag to get you going to a custom tune from a specialist. Again your lbs could advise or ask on here.

    What frame Is it? And welcome to nicolai
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    Quote Originally Posted by dipper
    What frame Is it? And welcome to nicolai
    Thanks!

    I was deciding between AC and AM - and also don't yet know if I need the L or XL frame (I'm 187cm and c. 87kg, but haven't done the other biking measurements yet) - but he has AC in L and XL. He has AM only in other sizes.

    Thanks for the tip on using an LBS. That's food for thought, although I guess it would eat into the cost savings a bit getting the parts separately... still, then I'd have an LBS who knew the bike.

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    I'm 183 and fall between a medium and a large. I've a few customers over 190 and all ride large frames.

    There's nothing specific about nicolai that your lbs couldn't deal with. For warranty purposes you'd need a deep insertion headset(22mm) but that's about the only thing to keep in mind
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    Tan, just speaking honestly, just get dipper to help you out and he will do it all for you, not hard to ship a frame from Switzerland to dipper and back built..... Be the best bet all round....

    I wouldnt go for an XL frame at all. No need at your height...
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    Now the former distributor is telling me he can build it, including colour selection, ISCG mounts etc. I guess it would be sent back to Nicolai in Germany for the painting and adaptors???

    I'm a bit confused by it all, as I thought he was just getting rid of his last stock at a discount, but if he can build the bike as I want it and sell the frame at 25% off, I should consider this I think. (It is a current 2010/11 frame by the way.)

    Thanks for the recommendation on Dipper's service Whafe. I will consider that if it comes down to it. Sounds like a good idea, but I'd have to research the tax implications. Swiss residents basically get 10-12% off everything they buy in Germany, but what effect a round trip to the sunny UK would have I shudder to think...

    Also good to know I am an L and don't need to get the measuring tape out...

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    i'm 182cm @ 79kg and ride a large AM with a 50mm thomson stem - perfect fit although i do have relatively long arms.

    dipper's service is 2nd to none - highly recommended btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by tantrumizer
    Now the former distributor is telling me he can build it, including colour selection, ISCG mounts etc. I guess it would be sent back to Nicolai in Germany for the painting and adaptors???

    I'm a bit confused by it all, as I thought he was just getting rid of his last stock at a discount, but if he can build the bike as I want it and sell the frame at 25% off, I should consider this I think. (It is a current 2010/11 frame by the way.)

    Thanks for the recommendation on Dipper's service Whafe. I will consider that if it comes down to it. Sounds like a good idea, but I'd have to research the tax implications. Swiss residents basically get 10-12% off everything they buy in Germany, but what effect a round trip to the sunny UK would have I shudder to think...

    Also good to know I am an L and don't need to get the measuring tape out...
    The distributor will have ordered stock from nicolai but as each frame tends to be different, nicolai will hold the stock until specs are confirmed. I'm sure simon at nic-uk does similar

    Thanks for the recommendation whiff and tlr. I'll help if required but can't see it being very cost effective
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    Quote Originally Posted by dipper
    The distributor will have ordered stock from nicolai but as each frame tends to be different, nicolai will hold the stock until specs are confirmed.
    Aha, now I get it! I'd pictured some dusty old frames in his cellar, but now it makes sense.

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    Well, I decided to go ahead and order it. I could wait until mid-April to get a new one, or 2 weeks to get his one in stock (but in my choice of colours), so with the discount, it worked out well.

    So far I've got Helius AC size L with Hammerschmidt and DT Swiss XM 180. After a lengthy meeting with my colour consultant (wife), I went with a conservative ano black all over, red extra love, white decal and red Hammerschmidt pimpkit (if something called a pimpkit could be considered conservative...). She's happy it matches my helmet, backpack and the shock! I think that's taking it a bit far and may have to get a new helmet and backpack.

    So now I have 2 weeks to pick (and pay for) other components and find a builder, rather than the 2-3 months I'd expected, so I'd better get on to it.

    The former distributor is offering 2011 Hope hubs and Mavic DH rims for about 580 EUR. I'm waiting for exact model names/numbers, so not sure yet how much of a deal that is.

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