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    Helius ST as a playbike?

    Looking at building up or getting a play bike to increase confidence on jumps etc, and looking at something like a Helius ST. Other ideas include a Spesh SX Trail, VP Free, Bottlerocket.

    Any thoughts / insights??

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    Bottlerocket, awesome facing down hill, but an absolute not good bike to have to do any pedaling uphill...... VP Free, Great facing down hill, not so bad to pedal. But my time with SC and Intense frames, the quality was poo's, I mean from a frame not being straight from brand new.... Spesh SX, riding buddy has one, he likes it, but is going to move to an FR....

    2010 will see the Helius ST & FR merge so to speak..... Will be called the Helius AFR.... That will be the one to look at, or go with an FR, strong as an Ox and very very, and once more, very capable bike......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    2010 will see the Helius ST & FR merge so to speak..... Will be called the Helius AFR.... That will be the one to look at, or go with an FR, strong as an Ox and very very, and once more, very capable bike......
    please tell us more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testmaen
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    please tell us more...

    testy - i have also heard this rumour as being fact.......

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    heihei - what size / how big are you looking to go ?

    my AM manages 10 foot to transition easily. the FR would manage more...

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    oh - the ST is even MORE specialist, demanding even bigger input / hits to reap it's rewards.....so if you're going monster, then the ST is the Helius of choice ime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe

    2010 will see the Helius ST & FR merge so to speak..... Will be called the Helius AFR.... That will be the one to look at, or go with an FR, strong as an Ox and very very, and once more, very capable bike......
    Well im figuring that it must have adjustable geo? and have 170 -200mm adj travel at least and be as light as the FR to cover all those bases?

    Super interesting! any more details get em up here!

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    TLR - it's less about what the bike can handle, more to do with what the bike encourages me to have a go at! I'm therefore after something with slack angles and decent amount of travel to make up for my lack of skill!!

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    being honest, if you have big balls, you have big balls - i don't think a bike can encourage / permit / allow you to go larger than your mind can........

    ime, of course

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    it's all in the mind. Heihei where do you ride and what size are you? My ST will be ready soon so you could try if you like?

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    Totally in the mind..................... As I get older (LOL) having a capable bike doesnt allow me to do stuff and over rule my mind, no way..... When that was happening, made my way to hospital to much.....

    An FR with a 180mm fork, will satisfy most needs I feel, unless your name is Bender, or you want to morph to more majority DH riding.........
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    Whafe, you may have missed my question concerning your naked Ion.....is it lacquered?

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    Agreed that it's all in the mind, although my 2 days on a big bike in the Alps a few years ago soon had me doing things I wouldn't have dreamed of doing on my 5-Spot, so the bike clearly has some influence over what you ride and how you ride it.

    To be honest, I've just got itchy fingers for another bike, and this is the base I haven't got covered with my others. Stupidly I sold my 6-Pack frame a while back, so the "biggest" bike I've got at the moment is the DW 5-Spot, which I want to keep pretty light for all-round duties. I've also got the Titus Motolite Exogrid for faster outings and the Ti 456 for hard-tail duties.

    Always wanted a Nicolai, and there's an ST frame floating around 2nd hand as well as a fully-built FR, both in medium.

    Ryates - I'm Surrey Hills / Swinley mainly and would probably ride a medium. You?

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    I have a large. Surrey Hills is good for me. We can hook up sometime if you like? Been too busy to build it up, but hopefully will be complete very soon.

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    last Nicolai catch up was Surrey hills

    - might be time for another one!

    Nicolais in Dorking: the pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karve
    last Nicolai catch up was Surrey hills

    - might be time for another one!

    Nicolais in Dorking: the pics
    Dam that was a great day.... Am a little bit further away now, New Zealand is a long flight, Barcelona was easy..... I really think you should all come down to New Zealand....
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    heihei - enjoying the ti456 ?
    mine's incredible, just about to go UST Big Betty's and 2010 FLOATS

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    Whafe - was indeed a cracking day. Only recently got round to doing another full day in the same area, which reminded me of the Nicolai meet!

    TLR - the ti456 is a sensational bike. I don't think I've ever been as blown away by a bike on a first ride as I was with the On One - the way it carves turns is just awesome. Mine's set up with Pushed Pikes, an On-One 80mm hi-rise stem and DH bars, and absolutely love it. Will be very interested to see how the Ragley compares!
    I tried to fit some 2.4" Nobby Nics but they wouldn't go - be interested if the Bettys fit. Running 2.25" UST NN's instead which are cracking.

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    AFR will be interesting awaiting for the release during eurobikes? Test.. do let us kno if theres any imformation ! hehe

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    heihei - my ti456's an 18" and 2.4" NN's fit fine ????

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    TLR - how odd! Mine's a 16" and may make a bit of difference. Tyres are also non-UST versions.

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    heihei - my 2.4"'s are non UST too.

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