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    Helius RC Build

    SO Last year after the Transalp Challenge I decided that I would need a Fully for the 2008 Edition. I ended up ordering this week the Helius RC in size L. I will post the build pics and parts here and lets see what I end up with weight-wise.

    Frame: Helius RC Black Anodized
    Chris King Hubs, Iso disc (170 g Front, 345g Rear) red
    ZTR Olympic Rims, (330g, 333g)
    DT swiss Super comps, 2.0, 1.8, 2.0 (145g)
    Formula Oro Puro (160/160)
    Magura Durin 100mm
    DT swiss Carbon Shock
    SRAM X.0 Triggers
    SRAM X.0 GEar shifter Rear
    XTR derailleur
    XTR Cranks
    Egg beaters 4Ti
    Thomson Masterpiece
    Syntace f99 Stem
    Syntace Carbon Duraflite
    Chris King head set red
    Gore Ride one Cables
    Tune Seatpost clamp
    Tune Skewers
    SRAM red Spyder 12-32 Cassette
    SRAM Hollowpin Chain

    as soon s the frame shows up, I will start the build

    Let the madness begin-I am hoping I get around 10Kg.

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    looking forward to it ...

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    Bling de Bling de Bling......

    Bring it on, cant wait to see this puppy...
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    Have you received your Helius RC frame yet? I hope you can post some pictures up when you do as this is the frame I am considering if I go with Nicolai. Thanks

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    Higgins - good point, am thinking it will take a little longer yet. But am looking forward to seeing this speed demon build....

    This will have to do for now....
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    Yeah, usually takes close to two months for a frame to arrive.

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    should arrive within the next 10 days. it is exactly as pictured above.

    dont worry, Ill be posting the picts.

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    Any news on the frame yet, sekt88?

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    not yet, it was supposed to xhow up last week and then said it would be delayed another week-if it is delayed more than another week I am up a creek as I need to get it built up and tested before The Transalp which is an 8 day marathon over the alps.

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    frame is scheduled to arrive on Tuesday!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sekt88
    frame is scheduled to arrive on Tuesday!!!!!!!
    Sheesh, saw a post from you and was racing to the thread, for some reason I thought it was going to be built...

    Roll on Tuesday.....
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    hehe, me too.

    btw: Impressive homepage you got there, sekt88!

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    Good news sekt88, I look forward to seeing the pictures!

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    I am going to pick the frame up today!

    Also: I bought the Look Quartz Carbon pedals ( instead of the egg beaters) the other day-The Quartz are very nice. The connection to the crank is MUCH more solid and, whether or not it is a placebo effect, I feel like more power gets to the crank. Give em a whirl.

    I post some pics tonight.

    cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by sekt88
    I am going to pick the frame up today!

    Also: I bought the Look Quartz Carbon pedals ( instead of the egg beaters) the other day-The Quartz are very nice. The connection to the crank is MUCH more solid and, whether or not it is a placebo effect, I feel like more power gets to the crank. Give em a whirl.

    I post some pics tonight.

    cheers,
    [SIZE="7"]YEAH HA[/SIZE]

    Looking forward to seeing this
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    2600 grams on the dot, size L, including dt swiss and Cking Race crowns. Building away so not that many picts-but 2 to get yall wet:-)
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    Looking good there sekt88! Long, low and very racy.

    Is that standard geometry or custom? How tall are you?

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    Standard-I am 184 cm tall with 92 cm inseam

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    SweeeEeeet !!!

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    Stealth weapon, sleek and looking very focken fast.....

    Going to be smoking hot when she is done.....
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    99% finished, but ride ready--->10.6kg! (23.4lbs) I needed a topswing Derailleur and I only had a SRAM X9, but I ordered an XTR just today. I will ride this evening and tonight make some more picture and give a short report on the initial ride.

    So how do I break the 10 kg barrier? Where can I shave another 600 grams?
    I already have most of the lightest (sensibly light) parts
    Frame/headset/shock 2600 grams
    Magura Durin 100mm 1430 grams
    Stans olympics 330gr
    CKing hubs
    Formula oro puro disc brakes (discs are 110grams so I could lose almost 40 grams with some aligator sawtooths)
    Thomson Elite, shortened about 175 grams---the same length in elite will get me another 40 grams
    2006 XTR crank---> a 2008 should get me another 80 grams if Im lucky)
    SRAM red spider cassette---->XTR maybe another 20g
    Syntace f99/syntace carbon bar--> nowhere to go here, i doesnt get any lighter
    Syntace grips-99g---> road tape would get me another 50grams

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    I know that youre also on the German IBC Forum, take a look at their Weight-Weenie section (http://www.mtb-news.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=108)). I find most of the threads quite interesting.

    A pair of DT Swiss 240s' or 190ceramic would save you some weight. According to WeightWeenie http://weightweenies.starbike.com/li....php?type=hubs the 2006 ISO ChrisKing has front167gr, rear306gr.

    240s 32h 6bolt front: 155gr
    240s 32h 6bolt rear: 270gr

    190ceramic: only as centerlock with adapter for IS discs; no data on weight of the adapter; weight from DT homepage
    front 32h: 105gr
    rear 32h: 205gr

    http://www.dtswiss.com


    Tune King(front) + Kong(rear)
    front: 136gr
    rear: 223gr

    Tune Princess(front) + Prince (rear):
    front: 109gr
    rear: 190gr

    http://www.tune.de But the Tune hubs cost some serious money!

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    Another interesting site is http://www.light-bikes.de. Mainly articles in German, but some also in english.

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    How heavy are your current tyres?

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    Ride Report #1

    The problem with the weight weeny parts is that they are often "WEAK" so I like to stay within reason. The bike feels right as the "flexi-ness" of the parts seem to work well with the frame-I got lucky in parts selection. If the parts are much more "flexy" than the frame then they will break faster. The only carbon on my bike is the handlebar and I am not 100% sold on it yet. I think I need a bar with no bend.

    Tires: Maxxis eEXCeption Ignitor front 469g and Maxxis Monorail rear 490g. Both are 2.1 and you can forget both if the trails are wet. Over stumps and rocks they are practically slicks.

    As far as the hubs go, I want to try the Kings for a while. If the rear hub settles down after another 200km okay, if not I may lose my patience.

    I may try the DT Swiss fork which would get me another 100g.

    Ride Report #1: This is my first full suspension so I have no comparisons for other frames.

    The most obvious difference is the downhills-what a difference! - much faster, much more control and MUCH less energy sapping. Everything I longed for.

    For the uphills, I still have to get the shock and fork optimized, but there is almost no bounce even when standing and cranking heavy gears-very nice.

    The Frame is VERY stiff and the steering tube is amazing - VERY, VERY, VERY nice tracking. Did I mention that it tracks nice. Steering is super stabile.

    I need a straight seat post. You guys like the Thomson Masterpiece?

    The stays from the top tube to the seat tube requires a higher clamping to lock the post. The Tune clamp is not strong enough-it needs a bolt.

    The hanger is very stabile and gearing, compared to a normal hanger, is much more precise. I always hated the normal hangers as they flexed WAY too much.

    More reports after getting the suspension worked out. The dt swiss is a work of beauty.

    The bike turns heads on the trails!
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