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    Helius AM - Tyre Choice[s]

    what rubber you running on yer AM's ?


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    Just put a set of Specialized Eskars on mine. Running them UST tubeless; they are 2.35" with a dual compound rubber so 65 durometer on the centre and 55 on the shoulders. Weight is a confirmed 720g per tyre.

    Prior to this I was running Maxxis Ardent 2.35" LUST. Great tyre in soft loamy soil, but they are heavy at 880g each!

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    cant beat minion front and high roller or crossmark back, unless its uber muddy then its all about cut spikes!

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    i've whacked on an old pair of big betty's with a view to converting the 5.1D's to tubeless............

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    Used Maxxis Ignitors 2.35 ust on the Fr,Heavy at 800g.
    Good performer,no punctures,fast rolling.

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    minion front, highroller back here too!

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    i like a tyre that rolls into corners well [not square edged] and with progressive break-away.....

    now the AM's going big hitting, the big betty's make perfect sense

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    Big Betty works okay as a rear tyre, but the lack of cornering grip make them terrible as front tyre.

    I would like to try Conti Mountain Kin 2.4 next time

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    whereas i think the big betty offers front end feedback and a progressive break-away with lots of lateral grip ....depends on set pressure of course.......

    definitely want to try 2.4 rubber queen or 2.4 mountain kings sometime soon

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    TLR If you want to hurt yourself then by all means try 2.4 mountain king on front, if rather you'd like to push the boundaries of grip (well at least have some) then go Rubber Queen same as me.

    ps. doesn't stop you going over the bars and smashing your hand though!

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    In fact you pay the postage and mountain king ust is yours gratis

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    2.4 RQ's F & R are fabulous, roll really well for size, fairly light, grip, good on roots, run 25 - 28 psi, reasonable in wet. I find better than NN's and BB's. Worth checking out 2.3 Baron for wet. Also new pattern 2.4 MK's? Mix them up?

    Put BB's on the back and use MM's on the front?

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    So the MK's are that bad Garry!?

    Nothing ruin good rides like bad tyres!

    Were they black chilli or not?

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    There is a new MK so I understand?

    RQ's with Black Chilli are the ones to go for.

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    Yep, just checked it out, the MK 2 is now out. New tread pattern. Very light 2.2 Black Chilli weighs 500g and 2.4 BC 650g. I'm getting some 2.4's to try.

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    Mikeal it was the old pattern ust black chilli the side knobs cut sideways through the dirt and give where as rubber queen bite. ps. diesel did the same as well caused me broken sturnum!

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    I have older 3c Betties, good in the dry, pish on wet roots and rocks, also clog in the clag. Not a fan

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    Should have said that I am running Rubber Queens front and rear UST. Front tyre weighs 880g and a rear tyre weighs 1185g.

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    pimp - you needed super glooey gooey compound for NE Scotland ! ? !

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    Triple compound Big Betties are great in the dry, fast rolling on smooth hardpack hence an excellent dry Glentress tyre. Laggan black in the rain was lethal.

    Might try gooie gluey muddy Mary... but tempted to try rubber queens in black chilli.

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    Have ridden for 9 months Ignitor UST rear and High Roller UST front (both 2.35) and was pretty happy. For this winter I moved the High Roller to the back and got a Minion super tacky UST 2.5 for the front. Mind you this combination was made considering the Greek rocky (wet for a few months only) terrain.

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    H'Rollers are awesome tyres, THE most controllable drifting tyre there is. Brilliant for the back but some peeps find drifting the front wheel unnerving (sooo much fun when you get a cheeky two wheel drift on though!).
    For pure front wheel grip the minion is unmatchable, so much so that i had to take the one off the back of the dh bike!
    If you ride mainly trail centres in the uk then in the summer i'd suggest swapping the h'roller on the back to a crossmark as it rolls loads faster and still good under braking.

    Super tacky's offer amazing grip on anything gravity wise but for any form of all mountain/xc then they sap your energy big time.

    Nevgal's are getting on but still aren't bad tyres tbf.

    Gary diesels really were shocking! almost as bad as panracer fire xc's (who ever gave them good reviews in mags needs shooting).

    PS have fun putting on and taking off ust maxxis tyres, be prepared for broken tyres levers, cut knuckles and swearing lots and LOTS of swearing!

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    I run a mix of Maxxis rubber on my Helius.

    Ignitor 2.35 LUST (Front) and Ardent 2.25 LUST (Rear) during the Autumn/Spring.
    Minion DHF 2.35 ST (Front) and Minion DHF 2.35 Maxxpro (Rear) in Winter.
    Ardent 2.25 LUST (Front) and Crossmarl 2.25 LUST (Rear) will be my Summer choice.

    Although i have been trying out a demo pair of the new Mountain Kings(from the nice man at Madison) for the last few weeks and have been very impressed. They look and feel much like a narrow version of the Rubber Queen. I was using the 2.2 ProTection Black Chilli versions. They roll very well on harder surfaces and gripped well on most rocky stuff i found. Grip on wet roots was okay but they do tend to clog easily in mud but then they aren't mud specific! They actually come up pretty narrow so i would probably recommend going up to 2.4 on the front. As for weights, we had a batch of 5 through and average weight was 621g i believe.

    All in all, i preferred my current Minion DHF set-up overall.

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    Have to agree about the Mountain King Mk1, they are lethal; however very quick in the dry dusty conditions. For me it's a Fat Albert ust front and Ignitor lust rear, best match i've ever had. Will be using Nobbly Nic ust 3c when the Ignitor's up though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sully43
    Have to agree about the Mountain King Mk1, they are lethal; however very quick in the dry dusty conditions. For me it's a Fat Albert ust front and Ignitor lust rear, best match i've ever had. Will be using Nobbly Nic ust 3c when the Ignitor's up though.
    Nobby Nics are good mud tyres but i found that they struggled in the summer and performance dropped drastically the more they wore down which seemed pretty quick.

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    @shakey was that the 3c compound? Haven't owned a nobbly nic as of yet but have ridden on a few, really liked the feel. The albert has lasted very well, and is awesome in every condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sully43
    @shakey was that the 3c compound? Haven't owned a nobbly nic as of yet but have ridden on a few, really liked the feel. The albert has lasted very well, and is awesome in every condition.
    if that 3c compound is relatively new then no, i ran them back on my hustler a few years ago after being recommended by a friend. To be fair i was impressed to start with (may have just been the ****e fire xc's id taken off), did a couple Merida marathons and trail centres with them on and they just got worse and worse. Ended up swapping them off (still with quite a lot of tread) for Nevgal's which were a marked improvement.
    I wouldnt recommend them to anyone myself as i think there are a lot better tyres out there.
    hope that helps.

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    Disclaimer
    Tyre choice all depends on where, what and how you ride. My opinions are based on the trail centre and downhill riding i do in the constantly drizzling UK.

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    fat alberts for the UK - brilliant tyre in all it's configurations.

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    Original 2.4MK's are plain dangerous on the front. I have a 6" scar on my elbow to prove.

    You cant beat Maxxis.

    Running a grippy 2.35 st minion on the front and a trusty old 2.35 H-roller 60a out back on my AM and am very happy with the combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpm100
    Original 2.4MK's are plain dangerous on the front. I have a 6" scar on my elbow to prove.

    You cant beat Maxxis.

    Running a grippy 2.35 st minion on the front and a trusty old 2.35 H-roller 60a out back on my AM and am very happy with the combo.

    Why maxxis don't make a UST 2.35 minion is beyond me!!

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    Here here, come on Maxxis

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    I have used Maxxis for years,only recently started using Nobby Nics.
    Had Minnions on the ION-st,very good tyres,not brilliant if very claggy and muddy,But will keep clear if you can keep up some speed.
    Ran Ignitor 2.35 ust's on my bikes before the Nobby Nics.Good tyres,last well,very good all year tyre(fit a fresh set at the beginning of the winter and run them to the folllowing winter)
    They are quite heavy but have excellent casings and always let you know when they were about to slide.Have used them on an uplift day at Cwmcarn,they seemed to handle it well.

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    This is totally off-topic, `cause I´m not riding AM, but here`s my 2cents -
    Maxxis selection is great, as well as their rubbers. So far my favorites are Crossmarks (reversed as rear), Ardents, Highrollers and Exo-protection versions of Minion DHF.
    Using Maxxis when temp is above 0 C-degrees, SlowReezay and SuperTacky are lethal when temp`s below -5C - more slippery than soap. 60A is bit better, but not enough ...

    For all of you writing positive comments of Schwalbes FA`s - you have to try new TrailStar / PaceStar- compound versions - older ones were nice, but these new ones are far better. Works well in really cold condition too.

    Few aces worth of trying from other brands are Bonty´s XR4, Geax Dhea and Kendas ElMoco too.

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    Too bad the Minion ST comes only in wire version (makes for high postage charges).

    I'm looking at a Nevegal 2.5" Stick-E, Rubber Queen/Trail King 2.4" or Betty Gooey Glooey.

    How good or bad is the Maxxis 3C in the Minion DHF 2.5 Single Ply?? I've read it's not the same as the used on their DH tyres which use 42 duro. The softest compound in 3C for the Single Ply's is said to be 50.

    Anyone has a better idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warp
    Too bad the Minion ST comes only in wire version (makes for high postage charges).

    I'm looking at a Nevegal 2.5" Stick-E, Rubber Queen/Trail King 2.4" or Betty Gooey Glooey.

    How good or bad is the Maxxis 3C in the Minion DHF 2.5 Single Ply?? I've read it's not the same as the used on their DH tyres which use 42 duro. The softest compound in 3C for the Single Ply's is said to be 50.

    Anyone has a better idea?
    The UST 2.5 comes in super tacky i have one on the front of my Session (now that ive FINALLY got to take the spike off )

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Lecht_Rocks
    fat alberts for the UK - brilliant tyre in all it's configurations.
    I ran those for 2 years and loved them, then swapped to roller minion and realised that I had been loosing out on so much cornering grip.
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    I'm running a minion on the front UST, ok, sidewall not UST but takes sealant very well.

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