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    Helius Am Pinion

    HI guys,
    in the german forum the Helius AM with a pinion gearbox just appeared:

    Nicolai Helius AM Pinion - Fahrbericht vom ersten Mountainbike mit Pinion Getriebe - MTB-News.de | IBC Mountainbike Forum

    sorry, no english yet.

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    Oh good lord that looks amazing. If it works as well as it looks that's a big step forward for gear box bikes.

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    I want one, I want one, I want one, I want one, I want one, I want one, I want one, I want one, I want one................................

    Just how many gears has this thing got? and what sort of range?

    Now where did I put Dipper's number .

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    18 gears, 600% range. Adjustable via the chainring size. The range is quite wide, I guess because the gearbox is to be bolted to any kind of bike.

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    I wonder if they can do that with a 29er

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    Well I've just asked Dipper to order me one.......

    Mind you he's bleatin' on about needin' permission fae my 'boss' as well as other excuses.

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    Well far be it for me to be the source of turmoil in an otherwise happy home! Oh sorry I forgot, you're meant to be saving for the 'happy home'!!
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    OMG, I like it!


    Weight of the frame+pinion+cranks+chainring?

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    Good job!

    Total weight for the bike in the link above is stated 15.3kg. Jummy
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    amazing.....

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    Adriano.... :-).

    15.3 is the total weight but... some parts could be more light. I hope that nicolai tell more about the specs in Eurobike :-)

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    Its the future - we need something like this to take off and kick shim and srams ass a bit - they could easily be bringing this stuff to market but dont want to.

    How many gears does it have?

    All that bike needs is a ccdb air on the back!
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    Wow... amazing. Now please bring it in AC flavour... trail slayer!
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    18 gears, 600% of range. Good news :-).

    I hope that extend it to AC and AFR models

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    it does indeed look like the future. not that its a big deal but its a shame it needs a chain tensioner. hopefully it will be cheaper than the gboxx!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dipper View Post
    it does indeed look like the future. not that its a big deal but its a shame it needs a chain tensioner. hopefully it will be cheaper than the gboxx!
    I'd imagine that it needs the tensioner to allow for chain line growth during compression but at least it's cheaper to replace than a rear mech. The problem I can see though is the lack of chain guide at the front and possibly the lack of bash gaurd mounting points.

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    Looks great doesn't it? We're really stoked about this one and apparently we can take orders now with a deposit to secure your place in the first production runs (though no promise of a delivery date).

    Looking at the way the hub is put together there are lots of opportunities for an optional/custom drive side gearbox cover to integrate or mount bash or chainguide. Something like a Roox rollercoaster might be enough so you keep the back end really simple - maybe combined with a rear cog with side plates (seen on some Alfine/Nexus cogs i think).
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    Can it be done to a long travel 29er? Like my 150mm AM/AFR 29er?

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    a light ceradure or light ti cog with the Paul Components melvin will be a good option too

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    WooHoo......emailed Karl this morning about ordering an AM Pinion and recieved an email back from Vincent telling me to contact my local dealer (Dipper) to place an order NOW.

    And that's just what I've done!

    Now the waiting begins..........

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    Fook me SDR you didn't take much convincing!

    What are you going to do with you current AM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geetee1972 View Post
    Fook me SDR you didn't take much convincing!

    What are you going to do with you current AM?
    It's the way forward.......trust me.

    I'll just swap the parts over from the old to the new and sell the current AM frame.

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    What's the cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianpinder View Post
    What's the cost?
    I don't think there's a price for the Pinion P1 yet but according to the jungle drums it should be cheaper than the current gearbox offerings.

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    Looks like I'm gonna have to sell my current am to fund the Africa thing, so come next year I'll be after a new bike. This will be it. Custom, ano, extra live, probably pushing 4k...

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